Author Topic: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va  (Read 5395 times)

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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2015, 10:32:09 AM »
showing air horn and filler cap installed...



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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2015, 11:30:13 AM »
Very Botiful!  ;D

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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2015, 08:40:59 PM »
Gorgeous work, Bo!  I am wondering is there a Daimler-Mercedes
version in the works?

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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2015, 09:22:59 PM »
Cheers guys --  @ Ernie Daimler version is in the research stage. ;)

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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2015, 11:31:02 PM »
Looks great BO! What are the chances this would work with a Roden Alb.DIII ?
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Thanks Rick :) I Haven't tried it yet, but I think if one were to cut the right size hole, it should work ok. (Care to try it for me? I'll supply the radiator :) ) The bigger question for me is whether it will work on a D.II. I need to research whether the airfoil section of the D.I/D.II was similar to the D.III/D.V and/or whether the radiators were the same...

A very kind offer Bo! I will look at the kit and get back to you today via PM.
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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2015, 05:22:54 AM »
Retaining straps made from Brengun PE turnbuckle parts (need paint of course):


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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2015, 02:09:57 PM »
looks like they were made for that

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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2015, 11:29:54 PM »
This photo shows how to use a small strip of .004" (~.12mm) thick aluminum to clean the support material from between the fins. the strip is about 2mm wide. Start from the top, back row and push between the fins at approximately 45 degrees towards the front of the radiator. it should easily push right through.

I recommend skipping the acetone bath or going very easy -- just a few seconds at most -- lest the fins start to warp. Instead try washing the part gently in lukewarm soapy water.

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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2015, 11:50:50 AM »
Bo,
Thanks for the detailed instructions. They will come in handy soon!
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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2015, 12:42:09 AM »
The package arrived a couple of weeks ago and I have finally had an opportunity to  do some research. First the radiator photographed on enlarged drawings from the Windsock Albatros special. The drawings are used with permission and are Copyrighted by Albatros Publications and the late Ian stair.

se5 035_crop by Richard Geisler, on Flickr

As can be seen the radiator fits the drawing perfectly!

Here is the radiator sitting on top of the Roden DIII wing. (I noticed that my alignment is a tad too far forward but that being said the Roden molded in radiator is wider and longer chord wise). In addition the Part PE radiator matches the Roden version so it also is oversized.

se5 038_crop by Richard Geisler, on Flickr

The conclusion is that Bo's radiator is more accurate and of course much more finely detailed. Next up will be using the calipers to check wing and radiator depth/thickness. I will create a separate thread in under construction for the actual building portion.
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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2015, 12:55:46 AM »
Thanks for sharing that Rick. My part is dimensionally based entirely on the WNW part, and indeed they appear to have gotten it right. It makes senses that the D.III radiator would be interchangeable, after all the D.V/a wings essentially were as well...

My question remains whether the D.II (wing-mounted) radiator was also interchangeable. I suspect they might be, but I confess I haven't done the research.

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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2015, 01:00:45 AM »
Thanks for sharing that Rick. My part is dimensionally based entirely on the WNW part, and indeed they appear to have gotten it right. It makes senses that the D.III radiator would be interchangeable, after all the D.V/a wings essentially were as well...

My question remains whether the D.II (wing-mounted) radiator was also interchangeable. I suspect they might be, but I confess I haven't done the research.

That is next on my agenda  8)
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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2016, 12:32:16 AM »
OK, I took the plunge and ordered a radiator. Since I have a ......ah...few Albies in the stash, I figured I'd better see what one looks like, and if I can wrangle it into a build. I'll be in touch...

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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2016, 12:45:23 AM »
OK, I took the plunge and ordered a radiator. Since I have a ......ah...few Albies in the stash, I figured I'd better see what one looks like, and if I can wrangle it into a build. I'll be in touch...

Thanks, I hope you like it!

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Re: 1:32 Teves & Braun Airfoil Radiator for Alb D.III/D.V/D.Va
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2016, 05:53:10 AM »
The difference a lot of the time with the T&B radiator seems to be in the amount of lengthwise support vanes, Bo's shows 2. 

Most D.II's with wing mounted radiators however seem to have had single support vanes but not all.
 
The D.III seemed to come with more of both and the D.V series too had the odd variation. Ritter Von Schliechs DV as per WNW's is a fine example of this having only the one (missed by WNW). It also has a shutter arrangement but quite different from that fitted to the Daimler Benz radiators.

Daimler Benz Rads seem to be fitted to the D.V & D.Va series more but there are one or two images of D.IIIs with what could be DB rads Kurt Grasshoffs D.2135/16 for example & in the Osprey book on the D.III therse a line up of D.IIIs & D.Va's of Jasta 30 wheere a couple at least show a distintive raised rear as the DB radiator does when sat in the wing.

But as we all know, in the field of WWI modelling  it pays to say "Never say never!"

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