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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #255 on: January 28, 2016, 01:49:19 AM »
The mind boggles at the thought of making those pulleys - let alone rigging them! That would have been an achievement in 1/32 scale - in God's Own Scale it is little short of a miracle.

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #256 on: February 13, 2016, 07:44:04 AM »
Hi all,
 Back from 2 weeks in England/Guernsey to help my "little" brother celebrate his 50th, and have got to the final stage of the aileron rigging on the starboard wings. It would have been so much easier if I'd fitted the control horns securely but I had only stuck them onto the aileron surface and of course they keep falling off! In future I will cut a small notch in the aileron leading edge and slip the horns into that to give them something to bite on.
 The rigging consists of the one continuous line shown in the previous post, plus one short line tied to that on each of the 4 control horns, and another tied mid-point on the line from the lower pulley up to the top wing. Each end of these lines is then threaded through holes in the ailerons to give a total of 6 lines to each of the upper and lower faces of the upper aileron, and the lower face of the lower aileron. Sound complicated....it is...my eyes are getting a little squinty!



I'm going to leave those to cure properly before attempting to tighten them up and finish them off.

Then it will be the port wings' turn.....

Ian
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #257 on: February 13, 2016, 07:46:59 AM »
What a tangled web we weave - looking really good Ian, I'm sure it will all tighten up nicely.

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #258 on: February 14, 2016, 07:40:55 AM »
Another milestone reached today - the starboard wings are complete! I finished off the rigging without further mishap, got them all nice and taught, only to find that there is now a slight hint of slack in the main aileron lines, but I can live with that and put it down to the fact that there could well have been a little slack when the wings were folded......

maintaining tension while the ca hardens: First one tensioning the upper aileron wires, second one the lower ones...





all trimmed up:



and finally with the tip float attached:



I'll make a start on the port wing aileron rigging tomorrow, and will follow a slightly different order as a result of lessons learned on the first one!

Thanks for looking in!

Ian
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #259 on: February 14, 2016, 07:46:53 AM »
Exellent rigging Ian.
Cheers
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #260 on: February 14, 2016, 08:34:31 AM »
You have done a superb job Ian.

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #261 on: February 14, 2016, 08:50:12 AM »
The mind boggles at the complexity of that rigging….makes any pusher look easy and even the Etrich Taube was straightforward by comparison. That is simply first class with bells and whistles! I both admire and respect your patience and skill.

Stephen.

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #262 on: February 14, 2016, 09:04:38 AM »
I'm just sitting here shaking my head in wonderment. (Is that a word?)

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #263 on: February 14, 2016, 08:29:42 PM »
Ian,that rigging is one of the best I've ever seen! Simply Fantastic!

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #264 on: February 15, 2016, 02:20:29 AM »
Ian,that rigging is one of the best I've ever seen! Simply Fantastic!

I agree completely!
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #265 on: February 17, 2016, 08:46:52 AM »
Thank you very much, gents, that is praise indeed coming from you all, and much appreciated, although it really isn't that complicated, it just needed a plan! I have at least 7 pushers, 2 Caudrons and 2 Taubes in the stash and I'm still a little wary of starting those just yet, although rigging this one has certainly proved the concept and that I can achieve the finish I want with them.

  I finished the second pair of wings today with only a couple of minor mishaps: for some reason the outer upper aileron wire went slack when the extra wire was added - it was definitely taught when it was fitted! A little heat took care of the worst of it and as with the other side, I can live with a little slack on that wire anyway. Worse was one of the lower aileron wires under the wing popped after I'd trimmed it so there's no way to repair it. Fortunately it's underneath and not very visible.
 
The big day is coming......



 Tomorrow should see a start on getting the wings mounted, but I need to come up with some way of supporting them, both while I adjust the fit, (hopefully without popping any of the rigging off!) and while they set. I'm thinking of using 5 minute epoxy to give me a little "fiddle" time.....

Ian
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #266 on: February 17, 2016, 10:18:14 AM »
Looking great Ian!

There just might be enough wire on this one to start your own phone company!

Can't wait for the finish, on the edge of my seat...

John

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #267 on: February 18, 2016, 01:59:13 AM »
Quite simply...AWESOME!
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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #268 on: February 18, 2016, 07:07:33 AM »
Stunning Ian, can't wait to see the wings fitted.

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Re: Short 184, Aeroclub, 1:72
« Reply #269 on: February 18, 2016, 09:12:32 AM »
drum roll.......






 ;D ;D

and no major damage! One control horn came off, one set of aileron wires popped off their control horn, and I knocked a tip float off - forgot it stuck out in front of the wing when I turned it over! Nothing not easily remedied...provided I can now figure out how to move the damn thing safely!

 I also seem to have made a couple of small errors earlier which very nearly bit me.... when I assembled and rigged the wings I forgot about the dihedral so they sit a little too low at the rear, and the horizontal tail appears to be very slightly tilted, the two together resulting in the rigging just touching the tail on one side. I'm not even going to attempt to correct it, it's not too noticeable, and given how complex this build has been I'm very happy indeed with the way it's all come together!

 Tomorrow I will put right the little things that got damaged today, then attempt to attach the drag wires from the rear inner cabanes to the fuselage, and insert the aileron cables in their holes on the fuselage sides. I then need to figure out how to make the sling that needs to be added on the upper centre section, and add the 4 rigging wires that were disconnected to fold the wings: drag wires from the upper inner and middle cabane attachments to the nose, which will be attached to each other at their loose ends and left to hang, and 2 more under the wings which would attach to the float struts. I'll curl the rigging thread around on itself into a small loop and then attach one end, letting it hang under the wing.
 Last of all, add the prop, and she's done!

Ian
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