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Offline uncletony

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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2014, 01:08:40 AM »
WNW fans on FB has 2371 fans. You have to imagine they very nearly are all customers.

Most of them would be, yes, BUT the number of WWI modelers I am sure is beyond the number of WNW customers. I am sure there are a significant number of WWI modelers who have never bought a WNW kit. I only succumbed to temptation in the last thirty days, and may never build one of them. Who knows?

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Right, but Ermeio is trying to get at the number of WNW customers...

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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2014, 02:39:03 AM »
For what it is worth, I'll contend that a fairly large group of modellers is stepping up to 1/32 WWI because of WNW. Ermio's figure of 2K is prolly +- 10%. I have 34 on the shelf, have built 3 and 1 in progress; I'd order another 3 right now if it was in the budget, 4 if I count the AEG on release. I think I'm somewhere in the middle of the pack with stash, and builds.

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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2014, 06:45:40 AM »
Agreed.

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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2014, 07:46:42 AM »
Just like any other model kit manufacturer Wingnuts are not going to tell you how many kits they have sold, try writing to Tamiya or Eduard and ask them their sales figures, I'm sure they will be as silent as Wingnuts.

Many years ago I read a report "somewhere" that a scientific study had been done on the number of modelers who actually make WW1 aircraft models, the figure was surprising, 10,000 approx. Bear in mind that this is worldwide so as a percentage of population it is a very very tiny figure. Forum numbers would not give an indication of WW1 modelers, I know many modelers who have never and never will join a forum but still build WW1 model aircraft. Even the 2000 + members on this forum don't all build models, many have never left a post since they first joined.

Wingnuts are doing well, they are selling quite a few kits and will continue to do so until such time as SPJ decides he doesn't want to play this game anymore.

Getting back to the original question, I stick with my first answer, I wouldn't hazzard a guess - but I am very thankful that Wingnuts are around regardless of how many kits they sell.

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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2014, 08:05:26 AM »
I put another order today and they are at around 17.000 orders. It would be interesting for me to draw a curve of WNW sales.
I ordered my first batch two years ago, and therefore I hope that someone can send me a PM with something like this:
Order Number: 322924-15647      
Order Date: 11 November 2014   
but for the period before 2014. The more lines like these I have, the more we can guess about production batches and sales.
With a lot of data like the following:
   Order Number: 322924-15647      
Order Date: 11 November 2014      
32016 - 1/32 Sopwith Pup RNAS   $69.00   1
32019 - 1/32 Pfalz D.XII   $69.00   1
32027 - 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Alb)   $79.00   1
32030 - 1/32 Fokker D.VII (OAW)   $79.00   1
we could even guess which are the next kits likely to go sold out and when.
Consider that these are only (statistical) estimates, a sort of exit poll, and therefore we will never be  sure.

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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2014, 08:13:09 AM »
Des is right,
but this thread is only "pour parler", like the next WNW kit speculation...
It maybe that the great Peter in the next years will open the Gates of paradise and the world will be inundated by WNW kits, available for just a few bucks each in every little shop (sweet memories of the 70s when the airfix bagged kits were hanging in some corner of almost any shop...)
moreover, guessing how many kits they cast in each run tell nothing, since they can have more than one run, like for the HB W 29...

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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2014, 09:07:54 AM »
moreover, guessing how many kits they cast in each run tell nothing, since they can have more than one run, like for the HB W 29...

Who says they had more than one run?  ;) :o For all we know, they've been sitting on those sprues since day one.  8)

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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2014, 09:15:08 AM »
moreover, guessing how many kits they cast in each run tell nothing, since they can have more than one run, like for the HB W 29...

Who says they had more than one run?  ;) :o For all we know, they've been sitting on those sprues since day one.  8)

Warren
Yes the arcane of that WnWfan that sold some 14 W29on evilbay,  each one for an astonishing amount of dollars is solved...
there must be a cave full of WnW somewhere, and possibly Gandalf is coming to propose us a new adventure...

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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2014, 01:14:03 PM »
As Des mentioned above, I too am grateful for WNW and how little or many kits they produce.  :)

May they continue to do so for a LONG long time!  ;)

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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2014, 01:25:26 PM »
I'm so thankfull for WNW... and I strongly believe in re-release in those sold out kits...  we are just too impatient though :) Eduard, Tamiya and many more manufactures do re-releases, often after many years after first release... mind you, I ordered WNW Junkers yesterday, makes it 14 planes bought just this year and none built due being on travels :) luckily they can wait  :D
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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2014, 02:40:41 PM »
stephen lawson had estimated thru some calculation on the drome a while back more like 10,000 ww1 aircraft modellers worldwide. forums numbers are a gauge of uber enthusists but only a fraction i would say 1/3. for example. myself i own 400 odd ww1 aircraft models. less than 30 are wnw. i am a member here, britmodeller and lsp but i dont really post elsewhere. i am not a member of facebook and could care less about it . i personally know locally half dozen ww1 aircraft modellers. of them only one has face book that i know of. one who has around 10 wnw kits isnt a member of any forum. one doesnt even own a computer he is an older gent of around 65ish and he was known round here as the red baron during mardi gras cuz he had a costume and had modified a bicycle to look like 425/17. my point is internet useage and forum membership is a gauge but is not by any means an accurate estimator.

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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2014, 05:55:07 PM »
Couldn't agree more with Albatros1234... I think it is impossible to try estimate WNW sales and numbers based on internet only...
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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2014, 03:17:06 AM »
2,000..... 10,000...whichever... Out of seven billion people on the planet? Can we really be that much of a minority?
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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2014, 03:26:05 AM »
2,000..... 10,000...whichever... Out of seven billion people on the planet? Can we really be that much of a minority?

Yes, we're like a subset of a subset of geeky nerds.

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Re: What do you think the production numbers are of each WNW kit?
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2014, 03:58:29 AM »
Didn't say we weren't cool. Hell's bells and peanut shells, that's the point man: we're so geeky, we've come full circle to the other side that we're now the coolest of the cool.  8)

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