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Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« on: August 11, 2014, 09:06:08 AM »
Evening All,
I bet many of you are wondering why I have decided to tackle a kit which was originally released in 1957, (before many of the readership of this forum were born I suspect, and many of the rest of us were still in short trousers or pretty frocks), when there are infinitely better kits on the market (as some other current threads are demonstrating). There are a couple of reasons actually. First I cut my modelling teeth on Airfix kits and I still have a soft spot for them. Second this has been in my stash for more years than I care to remember. Third I am participating in a GB on another forum and the model must have a minimum of 50% Airfix parts. Finally I built one of these when I wanted desperately to build something different from what was in the bag but did not have the skill to do so and in order to try to get around this problem, I painted my model in a zebra-stripe scheme which I had read about in a boys comic - I do not remember who the pilot was but it certainly grabbed my imagination. A couple of months ago I remembered that model (don't know why), and thought that I would research the colour scheme - just out of interest, no more. On the Rise of Flight website I found Lt Rudolph Windisch had flown an aircraft in such a scheme, although several other pilots also had similar schemes. I still do not know who the pilot was whose machine I tried to portray …….. years ago, but when I saw the GB coming up I decided to take a trip down memory lane and use it as the impetus to build another kit… and it has to be Airfix!

WNW this is not, nor will it ever be, but then it only cost a fraction of even the cheapest WNW kit. There are several problems with the outline, the most serious being the nose which is too short and too shallow, but putting that right would take more time and effort than I am prepared to give, so I will make do and accept the errors. The cockpit is empty (normal for a kit of this age), and the flying trailing surfaces are too thick - nothing a bit of glass paper and a file cannot cure. I discovered that the engine (or piece of plastic which was supposed to represent the same), was missing, which was just as well because I intended to replace it anyway. The machine guns are also useless but I happen to have a pair of Aeroclub Spandaus which I can use. Other parts may be modified or replaced as I go along. The transfers look as though they will fall apart in water so I will need to try to find some alternatives. What I really want to achieve is a model which will bring back some (very) happy personal memories and which will look a bit like an Albatros DV if looked at from a distance through rose coloured spectacles.

Or even just a bit like a DV! (Bo, please stop reading at this point as I do not want you to die laughing).

Just so that you can see what I mean here is a picture of what you got in 1957 (or in my case, 1978):



And remember that the engine is missing……..and yes they are ejector marks that you can see on the wings. If this comes as a shock for some, it just shows how far plastic kits have come in half a century, including kits made by Airfix. The question then is where to start? I have decided that some internal detail is needed in the cockpit, although most of it will be for ever invisible so I am not too concerned about accuracy there. I also needed to remove the upper engine covers so that part of the engine can be seen, and added the side pieces that lay between the engine and the fuselage sides, so this is progress on this section so far:



The top wing cut-out is the wrong size and shape and the ejector marks needed sorting out on both wings:



Finally I have started to build an engine. I know that I could buy a resin moulding which would be infinitely better than anything that I can make but remember that the nose is too short, so a full size engine will not fit. This one has to be under-size to fit - I am just hoping that when it is finished no-one, (except you lot), will notice. First a simple engine block from laminated card and some cylinders from sprue. I drilled out some holes for the fuel intakes and exhausts, shaped a piece of card for part of the carburettor, put on some pieces of card and rod for the rocker covers and cam shaft, and added something that will pass for the gubbins on the back:





Well if you have got this far and have not already switched to another thread, all that I can say is……

………..thanks for looking.
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Re: Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2014, 09:19:27 AM »
I applaud you for taking on this very old Airfix kit, but in your very capable hands I'm sure it will turn out spectacular. Just the few steps you have done so far are really good and the engine is starting to shape up very well, I will be keeping a watch on this build.

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Re: Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2014, 09:44:26 AM »
LM,
On the contrary I am always PLEASED and AMAZED to see the Old kits brought to more modernly accepted standards! This will be a build I follow closely! Great Start!!!!!
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Re: Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2014, 10:13:41 AM »
You're not the only one with fond memories of these old Airfix kits. I built the "dogfight double" of this one. Needless to say there was no rigging on it....

Ian

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Re: Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2014, 12:23:22 PM »
Since I have about 9 of these still stashed away, I will be paying very close attention also.......

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Re: Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2014, 04:34:17 PM »
Bravo LM! As one of those who would have bought this when in short trousers and who still has one stashed away, I can't wait to see how you progress.

Best wishes
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Re: Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2014, 03:06:06 AM »
You're not the only one with fond memories of these old Airfix kits. I built the "dogfight double" of this one. Needless to say there was no rigging on it....

Ian

Ian, did your Dogfight Double look like this?



This was the source of this kit. I chose not to use the one which I have in the plastic bag - somehow the nostalgia got the better of me……

By the way, although I criticised this kit, I would also point out that generally the outline shape is pretty accurate. I do think that it should be possible to make something which most modellers would find acceptable, although it will take more work than some more modern kits. Not bad for a kit from moulds which are close to 60 years old.
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Re: Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2014, 04:30:33 AM »
That "Dogfight Double" box sure jolts the memory cells! Was it really 60 years back, surely I Can't be tha6t old??!!?!
Cheers,
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Re: Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2014, 04:34:31 AM »
Well, LM, you have taken a real challenge of a kit. I will look into this thread with a great interest and a bit of envy, as I have recently thrown to the spare box a few kits I decided I would never build. Some of them were of the quality and age what I see in your kit. So I will watch and probably feel ashamed not to be enough adventurous to tackle those goldie-oldies...
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Re: Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2014, 05:48:45 AM »
Good luck on this build, LM -

These old kits can be built up pretty well with just a little bit of effort so will follow your progress with interest.

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Re: Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2014, 09:06:15 AM »
You do like a challenge, don't you, LM?  But your the man for it.  You're off to an impressive start.
Cheers,
Bud
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Re: Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2014, 03:01:26 AM »
That "Dogfight Double" box sure jolts the memory cells! Was it really 60 years back, surely I Can't be tha6t old??!!?!
Cheers,
Lance
The original kit was released in 1957 and was one of Airfix's earliest kits. I have an example in its plastic bag but it dates from the mid-1960's. The Dogfight Double series was released in a round the mid-1960's (not sure of the exact year - 1966/7 seems about right).
So yes Lance, we are probably of similar ages….and no I am definitely NOT that old (or at least I don't think so…….)

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Re: Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2014, 03:05:12 AM »
Thank you everyone for the encouraging remarks - I am doing this as much for nostalgic reasons as any. Besides I do think that there is some good material in those old kits which is sadly sometimes overlooked. I will be content to have a zebra-striped Albie at the end, warts and all…..

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Re: Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2014, 10:51:37 AM »
Yes, that is indeed the one!
 I also built the Roland/RE8, Mig 15/Mirage III, and Spit/ME 110 - not quite sure how they managed to pair up the Roland and RE8, but they did!

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Re: Airfix 1/72 Albatros DV - for old times sake
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2014, 07:06:15 AM »
Evening All,
   I have almost completed the engine - I still have to make the exhaust but that will come later when the engine is in the fuselage and I will be able to make the parts fit properly. The pipework is stretched sprue, 5 amp fuse wire and thin rod. I know that it is a bit crude compared with what can be bought on the aftermarket stands, but this is supposed to be representative and only for the casual glance, not close up inspection with a magnifying glass and scale rule. I think that when it is installed it will just about look convincing.





That's all for now so……

Thanks for looking.
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