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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2014, 05:05:43 PM »
A thought on the oil tank if you haven't done it yet. If the cowls aren't yet on just trim the neck off and  fit a dummy part to stick it to inside the cowl... Wait that's kind of what you will do with the half tank.... ;D
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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2014, 12:45:41 AM »
Your interior looks very nice. Great to see your build Graham.
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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2014, 01:56:35 AM »
Hello Graham:

As has been stated, you are treading on unfamiliar turf.  The comments and observations duly noted and appreciated.  I am sure in the finished product, you will be amazed at how it all comes together.  Outstanding work thus far.  I can surely appreciate and relate to Keiths Loo Studies!   ;)

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Mark
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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2014, 02:40:38 AM »
Graham,

Great to see a build of the CII on the forum.
I have been waiting to see who would begin first.
Keep up the good work-watching with interest.

Best wishes

DiD :)

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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2014, 07:39:24 PM »
Outstanding interior Graham. This is a lovely build!

Kind regards
Patrick

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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2014, 08:23:27 AM »
Hi again.

Thanks for all the encouragement. The kit is really very nice and I've only let it down in a few places.

Since last time progress has been quite rapid but erratic. I've started to paint various sub-assemblies such as u/c, spinner, main wing struts etcs in my choice of main aircraft colour. Still to be 'weathered'/highlighted. See the chopped-in-half oil tank!



Without wanting to spark off a long and contentious thread here I've decided on a basically 'white' scheme, i.e. one dominated by CDL (bleached or plain) but with a twist that I will mention next time. I am still undecided if the main fuselage structure was painted 'yellow-beige' or was unbleached CDL with 'yellow-beige' painted metal elements. The uniformity might suggest the former. In any case I have chickened out doing separate colours for these and have used Humbrol 103, slightly lightened with white - but will modify the fabric-over-wood areas to suggest some difference in underlying material/surface treatment. I think this is a great colour.

For the upper wing surfaces I am going with bleached CDL and 'yellow-beige' metal bits - here being masked off (once you have masked deck areas etc on a 1/700 ship you get used to this kind of thing). I've used Mr Hobby Aqueous 311 Grey FS36622 here. It looks very like some swatches of bleached linen, with a slight greenish cast. At a later date I'll paint the rib-tapes a brownish unfinished linen colour - then  might apply a very thin overall whitish 'tinted dope'.


The fuselage is now sealed up and primed - the repairs to the rear are not bad. I've also added a small round port-cover (with BareMetal foil) under the fuselage behind the bomb apertures - seen on photos. Some later shots of the CIIa show a larger, more oval, panel (both perhaps covering a camera port?). Also an aperture/panel for the trailing aerial - again on photos and I've approximated it with two discs of 0.05 card.  I will be doing the model with the two forward windows dropped down so have filled the openings with a piece of card and some liquid mask.





Getting quite excited now as it all starts to come alive and together.

Cheers,

GrahamB

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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2014, 08:40:56 AM »
It looks very good your work Graham.
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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2014, 09:09:59 PM »
Good progress, Graham.  Your choice of colours will make for a
very attractive model, in my estimation.  Looking forward to the
next updates.

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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #53 on: May 01, 2014, 12:23:20 AM »
Hello Graham:

You are making good progress and I will be watching to see how you do the final finish.  I am on the fence on this release, not sure which one.  I know get them both!  ;) 

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Mark
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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #54 on: May 01, 2014, 03:16:53 AM »
All eyes. You are making it hard for me to keep my promise to me of finish 1 first before starting another.
James

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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2014, 12:57:15 PM »
Hi chaps,

been a slight hiatus in this project - somewhat preoccupied with family stuff and work. Still I have some major painting completed and have some detailed highlighting and other bits to do before bringing the major components together.

The fuselage was painted pale blue beneath as I can see several photos in the Datafile and WNW archives with a similar, but not identical, pattern as the Roland CIIa and DII airframes in the factory photo. I suspect this was tinted dope (as per Fokker F1/DR1 - an ethereal silvery blue? Here the colour is too strong and I later painted over it with a slightly paler colour but I'm still not happy. To simulate some of the underlying laminate strips I used brown marker pens (Faber-Castell PITT artist pen Dark Sepia and Raw Umber) - allowed it to dry thoroughly then sealed it with Vallejo polyurethane varnish


Then I applied the CDL/yellow beige mix mentioned before - Humbrol 103 tinted with some white.


The underside of the wings I suspect may have been the WNW suggestion of blue-dyed fabric - some photos seem to show untreated rib tapes as well as fairly translucent fabric. I used the artist's pen again to do the main spars. Then some Mr Hobby white with tiny touch of H5 (Blue) and H49 (Violet) until the spar lines were just visible. On photos there is an opaque panel behind the cross - but probably not white - so I just masked this off and added another coat of the pale blue to completely obscure the 'internal structure' - on the real thing this may have been application of tinted dope (as per fuselage underside?). All speculation! I'm not too happy with the end result - the subtlety is beyond my artistic capabilities.







The little panels are all painted the 'yellow-beige' but there are some tiny circular things to do still. Next step is going to be tedious - mask and paint all the thin rib-tapes in a darkish buff/untreated linen colour.

Starting to come together. Things will get less toy-like as the highlighting/washing phase comes in  but I'll keep this low-key as the Roland air-frames look quite clean - apart from the weathered examples showing their fuselage laminates through the fabric.

On we go...........

Cheers,

GrahamB
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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2014, 03:53:35 PM »
Very good progress Graham, outstanding build!

Kind regards
Patrick

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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2014, 09:09:39 PM »
Very nice work and an interesting thread. The Roland looks like more tempting and likely purchase in a near future!

Mikael
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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2014, 09:31:21 PM »
The next beautiful update Graham.
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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2014, 10:10:30 PM »
Hello Graham:

I agree with Mikeal.  Very nicely done.  I like your use of the artists pens.  I use them as well for laminate on the props and other small details.  Your work is inspiring and like Mikeal, a Roland CII/CIIa just may be a near future purchase.

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Mark
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