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Offline Nigel Jackson

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Case study
« on: September 18, 2013, 09:59:00 PM »
Dear Des

I don't know whether you think this is the best place for this message .... I'll leave that up to you.

It's become almost something of a cliché that we can learn so much from a forum of this nature. But for me it is so much more than a cliché and I want to provide a practical example.

Until I joined the forum about ten months ago I'd been very much a loner in modelling terms. In part this was a function of my living deep in the heart of beautiful rural France, but it more reflected some reluctance on my part to compete or even display what I had done, even  though when I was considerably younger I had achieved some success in competition, mainly but not only with my painting of 25mm wargames figures. It has only been in recent years that I have taken up the challenge of building rather than just buying kits of aircraft from the First World War, albeit very slowly. Since joining the forum I have picked up a bit more speed, if not much, and that amble has taken me to the point of starting the Eduard 1/48 Fokker EV. This is what my case study is about.

I bought the EV kit because I knew it was produced at a time when Eduard had significantly advanced the engineering of their models and it seemed a relatively straightforward build. Then it lay in the cupboard for a long time. Less than a fortnight ago I decided I would probably start it and began to ask a few questions on the forum. Since then my knowledge has grown enormously and assumptions that I had made been completely overturned. The information and support that I have received has been fantastic. I hope you will forgive me for picking out a number of people: Jamo has provided some great photos of a reconstructed EV with a link to a website and other discussions, as well as advice on lozenge decals; Trackpad (Gary) has provided inspiration not only through his own model, but also a generous willingness to share with me some invaluable discussions and drawings on the stained wing issue;  and only today, via a different thread, Zabu has provided me with a photograph and notes on the wing finish of the very aircraft I am hoping to model. Others like Lance had also added to my knowledge on this aircraft. Please forgive me if I have missed other major contributors. From the kind feedback I have received on some photos I have posted, I realise that I would probably have been able to produce a neat and tidy EV. However, it would have been one flawed in important senses and I think I now understand the way ahead. 

In my current profession I am a part-time post-graduate tutor for a UK university and specialise in Educational Leadership and Management. Within that field of study we spend some time considering the concept of a learning community. I can think of no finer example of a true learning community than this wonderful forum. For that, I want to thank you Des and, well, the entire forum community.

Best wishes
Nigel






Offline kornbeef

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Re: Case study
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2013, 11:22:52 PM »
Nigel.

That's the beauty of  having somewhere like this that Des has chosen the great responsibility of setting up. The simple fact everyone is willing to share information and critique without any unpleasantries. I know many modellers here of varying degrees of ability and it's great to share with everyone and help those that wish it. No one should feel reluctant to post their builds or ask questions. I've picked up countless tips from folks with a new approach or just do some basic things simpler that I hadn't ever thought of. The adage of "You are never too old or experienced to learn something new" is just one that comes to mind.
I've never thought of this place as being competitive, yes I'm envious of some of the exquisite work done here especially in the smaller scales I wouldn't even attempt, but relish some of the discussions that occur on details and such.

I've seen far too much catcalling, sniping, sarcasm and Godmodding on other forums that set in like a slow acting poison and eventually kill them. Thankfully none of that has migrated here and I'm sure if it started it would be nipped in the bud promptly or simply ignored.

On the topic of your build though, I'm watching and learning having an old half built Dragon 1:48th kit in my hanger queens so every post is a revelation.

Keith



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Offline Ernie

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Re: Case study
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2013, 12:00:38 AM »
Very good post, Nigel.  The people on this forum have been a wealth of information
and inspiration to me, as well as given me a feeling of frendship and comradeship
that no other has.  I've always been a "lurker", and the people here have actually
got me wanting to share my thoughts and modelmaking with.  That has been no small
feat.  I appreciate what Des has done here.  As Kieth mentioned there is not the snippyness
or pettyness that you find all too often elseware. A big thank you to all our friends here, and
long may it continue.  I'll get off my soap-box now...my Nieuport is calling. :) ;D

Cheers,
Ernie :)





















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Re: Case study
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2013, 05:27:20 AM »
Thanks for posting Nigel, and for the feedback. As it happens I have the Avis 1/32 Fokker EV on my workbench right now and your questions coincided with my own research. I also have been reluctant to post in progress build photos because my completion rate has been abysmal for years. Maybe I could do a 'may not get finished' thread . . .
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Re: Case study
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2013, 06:06:18 AM »
I could do so many of those threads.  :)
Regards, Ken

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Re: Case study
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2013, 09:55:31 AM »
First off, thank you Nigel for your post, it is very reassuring to know that members feel this way towards our forum.

The forum was initially started to allow a place for people to show off their models, talk with like minded modelers and to pick up new building techniques. The forum was never intended to be a place just for experienced modelers, it is a place where all skill levels are most welcome and all members, regardless of their experience, are made to feel like one of the family. In my eyes once on this forum we are all equal, we are all here to learn and we are all here to communicate with fellow members in a kind and courteous manner. This forum has only been operating for a short time and in that time has attracted over 1200 members all of whom are extremely friendly and helpful people. There is no class distinction here, whether you build a model in a weekend or spend countless years building your model makes little difference, the object of the exercise is to enjoy what you are doing and be proud of the result. Displaying photos of your build or your finished model not only benefits you but many of the members as well, regardless of how good or bad we think we are we are always learning new tricks. not a day goes by without me picking up some new ideas from the forum members and there builds.

It has become obvious that some members are a little hesitant to display their models on the forum, please don't feel this way, displaying your model photographs is what this forum is all about, we all love to see what other members are building, it adds so much to the forum and gives the builder a real sense of satisfaction, it allows the builder to become part of the forum and its members through participation. As Nigel said in his post, until he joined the forum he was pretty much a lone modeler, to tell you the truth until i joined a forum I was exactly the same, I would build dozens of models and the only person to see them was my wife and myself. After displaying a model for the first time on a forum I was elated, over the moon, extremely excited that other people actually though my model looks okay, my shyness and embarrassment soon disappeared and since then I have made countless friends worldwide.

Many forums have started and many have failed, some due to bad management and others through bad members, just two or three aggressive members is all it takes to destroy a forum. Our forum (I say "our" because I feel this forum belongs to the members) is one on the friendliest on the net, it is also one of the fastest growing WW1 aircraft forums around, and I am so proud to be part of this wonderful community. WW1 model aircraft is a very tiny niche in the overall modeling industry, but through this forum we are making this little niche THE place to be, I thank all our members and hope that our forum continues to grow and prosper.

Des.
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Re: Case study
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2013, 10:21:24 AM »
Nice post guys.

Like many of you i was also a lone modeler, building my models almost exclusively to me eyes only... being my wife and mother (with 77 years old) the ones that kept me from the "almost" word.

I'm a WW1 addicted. Love to build my small models and read lots of things about ww1 aviation, being research a real joy to me.

To be here in this forum it's a real honour. To share and take advises, to see so many great builds and to feel inspired. For that I thank you all. Model on.

Cheers

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Re: Case study
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2013, 11:18:37 AM »
Des,

I would like to add to Nigels original post by saying one of the greatest things you've done here is create a comfortable, club-like atmosphere. Most forums I just lurk, mostly because I get sick and tired of the "rivet counters", (as we say in model railroading), that seem to believe that their way is the ONLY way. Just as an example, I recently purchased the HK 1/32 B-17G and while on another forum, hoping to get ideas, it seemed every thread with B-17 in the title was nothing but page upon page of arguement over what was correct. Needless to say, I learned almost nothing.

I've had nothing but great experiences on this forum.  :)

Joe Clark

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Offline Rob Hart

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Re: Case study
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2013, 12:40:31 PM »
It is a great forum. Always friendly and interesting.