Author Topic: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.  (Read 3438 times)

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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2024, 02:54:56 AM »
Printing the insignia as decals:  Yes, this would be possible.  The PSD files described above have the insignia as a separate layer, which I perceive would enable decal making a relatively easy chore.

PRINTING:

I learned something.  Printing graphics using a printer app where stretch to fit the page is used has the same effect as editing in GIMP.  At least that is what occurred when I used Irphan view on an HP Computer.   Size was correct but the graphics came out a little blurry.  Got to print with a full size setting.

Front Cowl and radiator:

I ended up molding the front cowl and radiator location using M H ready patch, painted and toned down the gloss using L.A. Colors cosmetic powders to get the matt finish and color correct to the rest of the fuselage.  The radiator was printed on regular paper and glued into place.  What makes the cowl radiator construction so challenging is the complicated geometry and the radiator is angular and if the radiator is out of horizontal and vertical, it really shows.  Basically I avoided papering this section in a single sheet.  The results look good. 





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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2024, 12:30:47 AM »
The vertical stabilizer / rudder and the horizontal stabilizer / elevator are installed.     I had trouble with these parts as the skin graphics from IL2 Sturmvic and the kit were not the same size, the skin graphics are a little larger.  I had to go with the skin graphics to make everything fit.

For control wires I used EZ Line which I installed first to the fuselage



The Fokker has the upper control line pass through the horizontal stabilizer and this is wire is passed through pre-cut holes in the horizontal stabilizer



The vertical stabilizer / rudder and the horizontal stabilizer / elevator are installed are glued to the fuselage and the control wires (EZ Line) are attached to the control arms.  The control arms are made from thin aluminum painted brown.    The edges of the cardboard stiffener and the graphic skin edges are painted to cover the white cardboard and paper edges. 



The attachment point of the forward part of the horizontal stabilizer and the fuselage was carefully matched and cut for a good fit.













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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2024, 05:12:00 AM »
The engine exhaust pipe is made from Evergreen 222, 1/6" Polystyrene rod.     I attempted to make the exhaust pipe from paper, but was dissatisfied with the results.  The polystyrene is cut, bent and the individual pieces attached with crazy glue.    The exit piece is made from a short piece of hollow plastic tube that came from a Q-Tip of unknown brand.  It is the perfect fit to slide outside of the 1/6" rod.   After gluing, the assembly was painted with grey primer from a rattle can.   The entrance pipes were trimmed to length and glued with crazy glue to the engine and forward fuselage.






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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2024, 07:23:51 PM »
This is coming along very nicely. The front end looked like a challenge and you handled that well.

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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2024, 01:27:43 PM »
Machine guns are done.   

The gun sight rings are Model Shipways MS0952 3/32" brass split rings from the model ship hardware stash (I could not locate the 5/64 brass rings used on the Udet Model so these had to do.   Got to clean up the work desk).   The gun barrels are vellum paper wrapped around .039" music wire and rolled between my fingers until the desired diameter is obtained.  This time around I did not glue the gun barrels, they kept their shape naturally.   Graphics are a repaint.   



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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2024, 07:07:02 PM »
Clever work!

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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2025, 10:30:05 PM »
Incidentally it was on a RC airplane forum that I got turned on to using flight simulator skins for model use.

Perhaps on RCGroups?

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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2025, 10:40:01 AM »
The bottom wings are done and are on the plane.   

The frame is made per the kit.    With modifications.   The airfoil sections are made from cardboard with the kit graphics glued on.   These airfoil sections have proven to be pretty flimsy and I add additional cardboard to the downstream location.  Without the additional cardboard the airfoil sections will not stay straight and also the added wing skins will be lumpy at the airfoils.   Also, my experience is that the outboard airfoil section does not work well with the wing skin at least the way that I work.    So I delete it.  I will write later I added wire at the outer edges that can be bent to follow the wing contours and help to create the concave airfoil section. 

Note that the lower wings are rectangular and the vertical thickness decreases from inboard to outboard.    And note that even though the lower wing is rectangular the airfoil sections get smaller as you go from inboard to outboard.    The added downstream cardboard makes the downstream edge straight.




I built this wing structure with .032music wire to keep things straight.   In the picture above is one of the wires installed.    I would stack the airfoil sections and drill them together to result in the wires being in the correct position.   

As mentioned above, I added another .032 music wire on the leading edge and bent it downstream at the outer edge and generally follow the contour of the wing skin.    And another cardboard  support is added to the outer aft edge that connects to the wire.   A piece of wood is added at the location of the downstream inter wing strut.  When I drill a hole for the strut there will be support inside the wing.   I also add an appropriate paint color to the edges which will help later.

The lower wing skins are cut out and pre-bent.   The skin edges ae also painted.



Note that the .032 wires extend inboard and will serve to attach the wings to the fuselage.


The structure is glued to the bottom and care is to correctly position it, and also to achieve the concave effect on the bottom wing surface.    I also used this opportunity to re-position the side wires to move them away from the edges of the skin.  In retrospect I should have moved them inward to leave two wire diameters between the wire and the skin edge.  Later on I had to add MH Ready Patch to fill the gaps. 





This is an end view.  It is important to get the skin to follow the airfoil.





It is tricky to get the paper to follow all the way around the airfoil and reach the other side of the wing skin.  But that is the goal.   I found that by gluing the bottom and letting it dry and later do the top works the best.




The graphics look good.

The wings are attached by drilling holes in the fuselage side and the .032 wires ae passed through.    As mentioned in an earlier post, I had placed wood supports inside the fuselage and these worked as the wings are tight and straight.





The wings are straight and the thickness gets thinner as they go outboard.





I also added the machine guns at this point.

















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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2025, 07:28:16 PM »
That's looking very good. Well done on that wing profile.

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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2025, 02:15:13 PM »
Looks great!

Dan

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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2025, 08:42:16 AM »
The upper wing is completed.

The wing structure is built using pieces from the original kit with additional cardboard pieces added to supply additional support and rigidity, plus providing additional gluing area at the downstream edge.   The leading edge has a .032 music wire bent to conform to the leading edge and the two sides.   The wire is shown in the picture below as separate from the structure at this point and laid against the wing skin.   The wing skin is cut out wand showing in the picture that the edges are painted in a green color to hide the white paper edges.



The leading edge wire is added to the structure using gel crazy glue and the skin bottom wing surface skin is glued on first.   



The skin is clamped to the structure to ensure to ensure that it is tight, with no lifted surfaces.



The top is glued on and clamped.



The finished product.  The 4K graphics look great with that wide black German cross.



The bottom base surface camouflage is lighter than the ailerons but that is the way it was drawn.



The wing came out well however I had difficulty getting the structure perfectly flat, so I got more work to do on my techniques.





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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2025, 04:37:51 AM »
I do enjoy looking at the marvelous results you guys get with paper! Looking terrific to date!
RAGIII
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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2025, 12:22:06 AM »
I read in some posts of executing the wheels using rubber 'O' rings for the tires, however when it came time to make them I could not find the posts.  I then had to come up with a method which took some time.  Finding the right O-ring size was made simple by virtue of me having inherited a "Universal Series O-Ring Service Kit which contained a whooping 30 separate 0-ring sizes.  The R12 in this kit, with a listed OD of 13/16 and ID of 5/8, 3/32 section looked to be the best fit for this model.

The build method I employed starts with a strip of cardstock the same width as the O-ring and wound it around the OD and Glue the paper together, but not to the O-ring.



I printed out on cardstock the wheel skins and glued in a the wheel disks into a conical shape.     The OD of these disks matches the diameter of the glued ring.   A bead is placed at the center to serve as a support for the axle that some day will occupy the ID.



I got is so the O-ring ships snuggly onto the paper disk.




Next up is to glue the opposite disk, printed on Cardstock.    I did not like the look of the disk printed on cardstock, the seam showed up too much.  So a second disk, this on printed on paper was cut our and glued into a conical shape. 



This paper disk is a little oversized.   Next time I will cut it a little smaller.









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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2025, 08:07:34 AM »
I popped the O-rings off and trimmed the wheel center to get a bit better look.




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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2025, 09:25:41 PM »
Building the Wheel fairing wing.

I am using a bottom support of 1/64 thick wood glued to the bottom of the paper skin and curved supports of 1/32 wood.     Inboard supports are added to eliminate the tip pinching in when it is glued.



Supports of 1/32 wood are glued where the wheel struts will require support.    Axle is .032 dia music wire.



Top is glued in place with paper clamps holding it in place.



Final results: