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Offline Lou N

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Source for Micro Drill Bits/Drilling Alternatives
« on: July 11, 2023, 08:21:57 AM »
All,

Can someone point me to a source for micro drill bits? I have some 0.13 monofilament that I want to use for rigging, but the smallest bit I have is a #79; it will work, but it really too large. Any tips for alternate methods to drill rigging holes would also be appreciated.

Thanks,
Lou

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Re: Source for Micro Drill Bits/Drilling Alternatives
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2023, 09:15:46 AM »
Here you go Lou: https://drillbitsunlimited.com/  They used to offer a 10% discount to forum members, but I don't know if they still do.
Now, know this: those carbide bits will break if you look at them sideways. Don't ask me how I know, but they are very sharp, and drill a great hole, just know that if you put ANY side-to-side pressure on them they will snap.

Tamiya makes a some very fine drill bits (.5mm down to .2mm if memory serves.)

HTH!

Warren

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Re: Source for Micro Drill Bits/Drilling Alternatives
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2023, 10:46:34 AM »
I would appreciate a discussion about drill bits too. 

I hear of carbide, and I don't know what the alternative is.  I'm not a metallurgist, so I don't know how to tell the material from which the bits are made.  For many years, I have used the bits from X-Acto or later, Excel, that I found in the local hobby shop and they have worked fine for me.  Only problem is I sometimes lose them in the bits of stretched sprue on my workbench.

And sizes: The smallest in my arsenal is #80, which translates to .0135" or .35mm.  Does the size numbering system (like #80) go down to .2mm?   And at sizes below that #80, doesn't the user's hand wobble increase the size of the hole anyway?

Rick in Seattle

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Re: Source for Micro Drill Bits/Drilling Alternatives
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2023, 11:51:43 AM »
Rick,
     The smallest I keep in stock is #83 which is a good fit for the line I use. ( I use Maxima Chamelion 2 pound test which is 0.12 mm diameter) As Warren  points out their down fall is any lateral pressure results in failure.  Drill bits unlimited is a great source at a very reasonable price. I  tend to use them as is without a pin vice and practice makes a difference in the attrition rate. I buy them in bulk as they don't last long regardless. The discount was still valid when I last did an order about two years ago.
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: Source for Micro Drill Bits/Drilling Alternatives
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2023, 04:25:04 PM »
I  tend to use them as is without a pin vice and practice makes a difference in the attrition rate. I buy them in bulk as they don't last long regardless. The discount was still valid when I last did an order about two years ago.
Cheers,
Lance
Lance,
Do you mean you just spin the colored plastic collar with your fingertips?  No wobble?

And are these the carbide drills or are they the other type?

Thanks!

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Re: Source for Micro Drill Bits/Drilling Alternatives
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2023, 11:08:54 PM »
I just bought a set of "Yakamoz" micro-bits off Amazon for about US$9, 20 bits from 0.3 to 1.6 mm. They seem perfectly useable chucked down to about 1/4" in a pin vise in the smaller sizes, but I wouldn't try using them in a Dremel. If I'd searched a bit more diligently I could have gotten two sets for the same price; same product, different (absurd) brand-name... a fairly common phenomenon with Chinese manufacturers, it seems.

And as always, your mileage may vary.

Dave V.


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Re: Source for Micro Drill Bits/Drilling Alternatives
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2023, 11:57:10 PM »
Thanks for the replies, and the discussion. I'll head over to drillbitsunlimited.com  and see what they have.   

Lou

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Re: Source for Micro Drill Bits/Drilling Alternatives
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2023, 01:25:02 AM »
Using the usual pin vices I used to break drill bits all the time. I switched to the carbide bits that come with a shank and rubber collar to hold and spin bit, but still I broke them.
No matter how careful, I was introducing a shear pressure as I rotated the bit.

Then about 5 years ago, I bought a fairly inexpensive USB mini drill off ebay. I think it was about 12GBP but when I then bought one for my son, a year or two later, price had gone up to 18GBP or so. I haven't checked recently, but I'd pay twice as much if necessary.

The drill has variable speed settings and is light and easy to hold - like a paintbrush. One USB charge lasts me weeks.

To use it, I make a slight impression in the work with a steel pointy tool, then switch on drill at lowest speed and gently apply to the pre-marked spot. Since I am only holding the drill I am applying no sideways pressure whatsoever so no shear stress being applied to the bit. In it goes like a hot knife into butter and out again. There can be a little melted plastic on the bit afterwards and I carefully slice this off with a scalpel while bit is held flat on cutting mat (careful not to break bit here!)

Don't try to drill without the starter mark or drill will skid all over the place.

I don't think I've broken an HSS or carbide bit so far, on any work using this magic wee drill.
That's my tip for saving drill bits FWIW!
Sandy


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Re: Source for Micro Drill Bits/Drilling Alternatives
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2023, 06:04:41 AM »
Sandy,
I just looked and there are dozens of small USB drills on the market.  I'm a century behind!

Does yours use bits with a standard shank, or does it allow chucks to handle the small sizes?
Rick in seattle

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Re: Source for Micro Drill Bits/Drilling Alternatives
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2023, 06:54:39 AM »
Hey Rick, this one comes with four chucks to accommodate a variety of bit gauges.
In the picture you press in the brass button to immobilise drill shaft while you unscrew the black drill cap, inside which is the chuck. Screwing cap back on tensions the chuck to hold the bit in place.
HTH
Sandy

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Re: Source for Micro Drill Bits/Drilling Alternatives
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2023, 01:17:31 AM »
Sorry, I just noticed this reply. I use the carbide bits and spin the shaft with my fingertips, not a perfect technique however it works for me. As for a mini drill I recently bought the DSPIAE USB rechargeable model and hope to source an adjustable chuck for it as the permanently attached one will not accept the standard dimension shafts of American drill bits and Dremel accessories I had hoped to use with it. I have a set of the DSPIAE grinder bits that fit and really find them useful however the light weight and size of the tool deem it the perfect mini drill holder in my estimation.
Cheers,
Lance


I  tend to use them as is without a pin vice and practice makes a difference in the attrition rate. I buy them in bulk as they don't last long regardless. The discount was still valid when I last did an order about two years ago.
Cheers,
Lance
Lance,
Do you mean you just spin the colored plastic collar with your fingertips?  No wobble?

And are these the carbide drills or are they the other type?

Thanks!

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Re: Source for Micro Drill Bits/Drilling Alternatives
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2023, 01:36:37 AM »
Lance,
          I purchased an adjustable chuck for the DSPIAE drill off of evil-bay. I'm at work now, I'll try to remember to send you a link when I get home this evening. I do find that the chuck and the bit makes for a rather long tool, not sure how I like that as I can't hold it up close to the end like you can with a Dremel, etc. It'll take some getting used to for me.

Warren

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Re: Source for Micro Drill Bits/Drilling Alternatives
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2023, 11:11:26 PM »
 I purchased the cheap adjustable chuck from Ebay. The problem is that the shaft is actually .118 (3mm) instead of .125 (1/8th inch), This results in a slight wobble. Yesterday, I bought this 1/8th inch adapter. I will let you know how precise when I receive it.
  https://www.ebay.com/itm/191457059630?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20221115143056%26meid%3Ddd62d08dc7544a93b01fd660d8947246%26pid%3D101612%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D191457059630%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2%26brand%3DForedom&_trksid=p4375194.c101612.m4236&_trkparms=parentrq%3 A4f58aa9e1890ad91ddec8cd9ffffcf7a%7Cpageci%3A8b179102-217d-11ee-a5ca-42467cc8d96e%7Ciid%3A1%7Cvlpname%3Avlp_homepage
    I received the 1/8th inch adapter. After using my Mitutoyo dial caliper to check the diameter of the cheap adjustable chuck, I discovered that shaft is actually .115 inch (which causes it to wobble. The 1/8th inch adapter's shaft is a bit oversize which I will modify by removing a few thousandths of an inch.
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Re: Source for Micro Drill Bits/Drilling Alternatives
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2023, 09:40:37 PM »
Please let us know how that works out.

Warren