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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2023, 06:26:10 PM »
Great job on the interior.
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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #46 on: June 12, 2023, 10:27:48 PM »
Thanks for the supportive comments, folks.

PJ - I have been developing a 'method' for achieving a weathered, used look.  It usually involves 2 to 3 types of weathering techniques.  In general, I prefer the lighter weathering vs. extremely heavy weathering.
For the interior here, I sprayed Tamiya racing white (which is a light tan-yellow) from a rattle can, for the CDL color.  Then masked and painted the wood parts.  Next, spray a light coat of Testors lacquer dull coat to give some 'tooth' to the surfaces.  Pastel chalks can be rubbed on for a softer, dirty look.  Flicking AK Interactive engine grime from a paint brush gives the oily dirty drips.  Then Tamiya Weather Master 'powders' (which has a greasy texture like women's makeup) is rubbed on certain areas where dirty hands may contact surfaces.

Pin washes are used in some areas, usually where there is fine detail.  This is Future with black pastel chalk in it.  It will be glossy when dried, so a flat coat may be needed.

I haven't conquered the water based pastel washes, as they leave 'tide' marks when trying - the color pigment doesn't retreat into the corners like an oil based or enamel based pin wash does. Using a surfactant, like Simple Green helps, but I just haven't been completely satisfied with it yet.
I've heard about Flory Clay washes.  It's probably a product I need to try.

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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2023, 12:37:52 PM »
PJ - I have been developing a 'method' for achieving a weathered, used look.  It usually involves 2 to 3 types of weathering techniques.  In general, I prefer the lighter weathering vs. extremely heavy weathering.
For the interior here, I sprayed Tamiya racing white (which is a light tan-yellow) from a rattle can, for the CDL color.  Then masked and painted the wood parts.  Next, spray a light coat of Testors lacquer dull coat to give some 'tooth' to the surfaces.  Pastel chalks can be rubbed on for a softer, dirty look.  Flicking AK Interactive engine grime from a paint brush gives the oily dirty drips.  Then Tamiya Weather Master 'powders' (which has a greasy texture like women's makeup) is rubbed on certain areas where dirty hands may contact surfaces.

Pin washes are used in some areas, usually where there is fine detail.  This is Future with black pastel chalk in it.  It will be glossy when dried, so a flat coat may be needed.

I haven't conquered the water based pastel washes, as they leave 'tide' marks when trying - the color pigment doesn't retreat into the corners like an oil based or enamel based pin wash does. Using a surfactant, like Simple Green helps, but I just haven't been completely satisfied with it yet.
I've heard about Flory Clay washes.  It's probably a product I need to try.

good stuff, thanks for sharing.  i need more practice like this

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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2023, 09:17:01 PM »
Lovely work Ken, I'm enjoying watching this come together.
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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2023, 09:13:24 PM »
Just one word:

                                                 BLIMEY!


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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2023, 05:19:21 AM »
Finally back with an update on this one.  I've been researching and working on tedious details on the exterior.

Installed tubing for the control cables.


Here is the pulleys for the ailerons, made on the lathe.


Now I've got some paint on.  The machines that the 90th aero squadron used where formerly French machines.  They had the five color camo paint, and I believe, the light yellow / tan color ecru on the bottom.  At least mine will.  They likely also had the French roundels, too.  This is the ecru color on the bottom. 


Also, there are reinforcement patches where control cables come through the covering, which I have added in the form of decal film.  There are also leather wear patches, such as the one shown here, on the horizontal stabilizer where the control cables can rub on the covering.  These are decal film also.


One detail I noticed was that I have not found a single period photo of a Strutter with the elevator control horn positioned where they are in the kit.  I have found a couple of line drawings, but not a single photo.  Strutters were made by a number of companies, and likely at least one put the control horns where the kit ones are, but I will move the horns one rib bay outward, near the bracing cables for the vertical stabilizer.

Hopefully the next update will be soon!


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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2023, 05:44:15 AM »
Awesome Details Ken! Really looking great!
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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2023, 06:16:15 AM »
Fantastic! Especially those aileron Control cable pulleys.
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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2023, 08:03:55 AM »
Lovely. And those pulleys... just wow.
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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2023, 08:20:54 PM »

One detail I noticed was that I have not found a single period photo of a Strutter with the elevator control horn positioned where they are in the kit.  I have found a couple of line drawings, but not a single photo.  Strutters were made by a number of companies, and likely at least one put the control horns where the kit ones are, but I will move the horns one rib bay outward, near the bracing cables for the vertical stabilizer.

Hopefully the next update will be soon!

Ken, thank you for the correct observation regarding the elevator horns. It's something I hadn't noticed, despite my study of this particular aircraft. No period photographs included in the Windsock Datafiles confirm Roden's position. Roden's mistake is that she relied on the blueprints included in the datafiles.
You saved me from a big mistake in the model I'm building alongside yours.

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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2023, 11:54:09 PM »
     I just received the Summer 2023 issues of Cross and Cockade International. The front cover features a color photo of a CDL covered Hanriot built Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter of Escadrille SOP 107 with the Egyptian flying snake fuselage art. The article has many photographs 
plus there are five color profiles on the inside and outside rear cover.

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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #56 on: June 27, 2023, 12:24:15 AM »
     I just received the Summer 2023 issues of Cross and Cockade International. The front cover features a color photo of a CDL covered Hanriot built Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter of Escadrille SOP 107 with the Egyptian flying snake fuselage art. The article has many photographs 
plus there are five color profiles on the inside and outside rear cover.

Thank you Berman!
Is the article and are the profiles of that individual Strutter only?

Greetings,
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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #57 on: June 27, 2023, 02:22:49 AM »
Richard,
            Many photos of Strutters flown by the French. Color profiles are Sopwith built Type 9400 in CDL, Liore' built Sopwith 1A2 No. 1044 silver with large winged heraldry shield, REP built Sopwith 1A2 silver with stylized letters Nenette on fuselage, REP built Sopwith 1B2 No. 3374 silver with red and blue markings and hobo rabbit in a red circle personal fuselage art, and a SACA built Sopwith 1A2
No. 5268 formerly overall silver with red, white, and blue fuselage pennant but shown with green splotchy camo on fuselage after given to the Czechoslovak Legion to fight the Red Army. In this role, it only lasted a month in 1919 before handed over with other aircraft to the White Army.

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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #58 on: June 27, 2023, 02:36:34 AM »
Richard,
            Many photos of Strutters flown by the French. Color profiles are Sopwith built Type 9400 in CDL, Liore' built Sopwith 1A2 No. 1044 silver with large winged heraldry shield, REP built Sopwith 1A2 silver with stylized letters Nenette on fuselage, REP built Sopwith 1B2 No. 3374 silver with red and blue markings and hobo rabbit in a red circle personal fuselage art, and a SACA built Sopwith 1A2
No. 5268 formerly overall silver with red, white, and blue fuselage pennant but shown with green splotchy camo on fuselage after given to the Czechoslovak Legion to fight the Red Army. In this role, it only lasted a month in 1919 before handed over with other aircraft to the White Army.

Wow, thank you once more, Berman!
My idea is to build Roden's Strutter as an USAS training plane, but did not find much information besides a few photos. And then I hope for a single-seat Strutter, which I would love to see wit decals for Capt. Beauchamp's „Ariel“!

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Re: 1/32 Roden Sopwith Strutter
« Reply #59 on: June 30, 2023, 01:39:59 PM »
Terrific progress Ken, you’ve got me even more excited to receive and get started on my own!
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