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1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« on: March 13, 2022, 12:21:05 AM »
Hi all,
As the Camel conversion to the 'Comic' night fighter is near completion, It's time for the next model.
I have plenty of 'Wingnut Wings', 'Copper State Models', 'Lukgraph' and others in my stash.
However, I thought this time I make the 'Roden' 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI.

The kit supplied decals, apart from being Roden, are of schemes I'm not keen on, especially the 'Fratz' scheme.
Instead I'll have a go at the following, even though there's very little information on its colour scheme.
I've found only one photograph, one old colour profile and the box art.
I know from the 'Windsock' data file the types of lozenge used so it's just a case of picking what colour to paint the engine cowl.

Mike

Fokker D.VI of Kest 1a (Home Defence) Staffeln, operating from Mannheim in South-West Germany during the Summer of 1918.





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Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2022, 12:31:29 AM »
I am certainly looking forward to this one. This is one Roden kit I haven't tackled yet but hope to this year.
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Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2022, 01:48:55 AM »
Not subject often seen , following along Mike


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Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2022, 10:23:30 PM »
A great choice of subject - and the kit will respond so well to your amazing refining and detailing, Mike! I will be following closely.... Marc.

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Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2022, 01:36:22 AM »
Looking forward to this one, Mike: One if my great favourites since my boyhood-days! Unfortunately not to many individual machines known. I have Roden's kit in my stash and although I am a „KEST-buff“ 😁, I‘ll probably make my D.VI a hungarian „Commie“ - just for a difference..
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Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2022, 07:06:21 AM »
Excellent! I'm rather fond of the D.VI - it looks "right" to me. I'm keen to see you work your magic!

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Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2022, 08:23:23 AM »
A very clean looking fighter the D.VI, a great subject. Certainly looking forward to seeing the build. My guess on the colour on the engine cowel, for what it is worth, would be yellow since this colour is very light in black and white photos and it appears slightly darker than the 'obvious' white bits elsewhere on the photo.
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Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2022, 10:08:29 AM »
I'm really glad to see you are doing this kit Mike. I have this in the stash and it's always been one of those "I'll get to it later" ideas.

Now you are putting it right in front of us, I'll follow your build with much interest.

It's good to see Roden kits getting some more attention these days.

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Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2022, 09:03:21 PM »
A very clean looking fighter the D.VI, a great subject. Certainly looking forward to seeing the build. My guess on the colour on the engine cowel, for what it is worth, would be yellow since this colour is very light in black and white photos and it appears slightly darker than the 'obvious' white bits elsewhere on the photo.
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Hi Alan,
Yes it's the always present problem when looking at orthochromatic film, the most widely available film during the first World War.
Some actual colours are difficult to define, unless they are supported with unquestionable proof.
The representation of colours such as blue, green or yellow could for instance, look like shades of white.
The 'Comic is a good example, where the known blue stripe on the rudder matches what appears to be white markings on the fuselage.



As for the Fokker D.VI I agree that the engine cowl is a darker shade than that of the rudder, which would probably have been the standard white.



Below are representations of actual colours compared to the same but as orthochromatic film.
Using these as a guide, the nearest 'shade' matching the engine cowl in the photograph is yellow.





Here's a shot of a Fokker E.V which was known to have a yellow cowl and fuselage marking.



Lacking any positive proof I'd agree with you, that the cowl was most likely a shade of yellow,

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Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2022, 05:01:51 AM »
The struts on this kit need to be beefed up or replaced with something more solid. The upper wing is way too heavy for the flimsy plastic and the landing gear struts are wobbly even before you attach the top wing. When I did mine, I assembled it in a jig. When I took it out and sat it on the table, the weight of the top wing caused a complete collapse of the upper wing and that stress caused the landing gear to collapse...

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Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2022, 05:14:32 AM »
Hi all,
The engine has been finished with just 'EZ' line ignition leads added.
I've test fitted the engine to the kit bulkhead and the replacement 'Aviattic' resin engine cowl has been test fitted.
I'll be using the kit propeller as, due to the problems in Europe, sadly I can't get a 'Heine' wood propeller from 'Proper Plane',

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Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2022, 05:16:56 AM »
The struts on this kit need to be beefed up or replaced with something more solid. The upper wing is way too heavy for the flimsy plastic and the landing gear struts are wobbly even before you attach the top wing. When I did mine, I assembled it in a jig. When I took it out and sat it on the table, the weight of the top wing caused a complete collapse of the upper wing and that stress caused the landing gear to collapse...

Hi Jamieg
Yes I did wonder when I looked at the kit struts.
I've made brass tube struts for many of my models, so most likely this one will be no different,

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Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2022, 07:11:07 AM »
Fascinating analysis, and that colour wheel(?) is a handy tool to help decrypt these old photos.

Lacking any positive proof I'd agree with you, that the cowl was most likely a shade of yellow
Plus yellow just looks so good against lozenge! I vote yellow.

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Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2022, 07:45:00 AM »
Fascinating analysis, and that colour wheel(?) is a handy tool to help decrypt these old photos.

Lacking any positive proof I'd agree with you, that the cowl was most likely a shade of yellow
Plus yellow just looks so good against lozenge! I vote yellow.

Yes interesting use of dope on the wheels.
The lined wheel covers were normally painted with dark green or had an olive green outer rim with a lighter green centre. Some aircraft had wheel covers of lozenge linen.

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Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2022, 05:48:10 PM »
The struts on this kit need to be beefed up or replaced with something more solid. The upper wing is way too heavy for the flimsy plastic and the landing gear struts are wobbly even before you attach the top wing. When I did mine, I assembled it in a jig. When I took it out and sat it on the table, the weight of the top wing caused a complete collapse of the upper wing and that stress caused the landing gear to collapse...

Jamieg, I am wondering, whether these brass-(cabane-)struts for the Dr.I might also fit the D.VI?
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/aerocraft-acm32fos-fokker-dri-triplane-brass-struts--1316237