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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #105 on: June 22, 2020, 04:50:02 PM »
QS-001 is a very good 1/32 ME163.

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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #106 on: June 22, 2020, 04:53:01 PM »
Yes the conversations I’ve seen at other places quickly turn into a farce and are badly moderated. ‘Nuff said

These Dr1s are the Wingnut kits and I can’t wait to get cracking on one or three. But I just had a thought- are they 100% complete to WNW standards? I’m sure they’ll be fine if only 90% perfect. Guess we’ll have to wait and see...

Also makes me wonder if the Handley Page might have a chance?
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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #107 on: June 22, 2020, 06:00:44 PM »
Yes the conversations I’ve seen at other places quickly turn into a farce and are badly moderated. ‘Nuff said

These Dr1s are the Wingnut kits and I can’t wait to get cracking on one or three. But I just had a thought- are they 100% complete to WNW standards? I’m sure they’ll be fine if only 90% perfect. Guess we’ll have to wait and see...

Also makes me wonder if the Handley Page might have a chance?

I Am looking forward to seeing (and probably having) Meng's WNW Dr.1, but I also am afraid that none of the WW1 aircraft kits that Meng might issue will be „complete to WNW standards“, even though the plastic was designed by and produced for WNW. At least that is true for me, who enjoyed the whole, if not „wholistic“ package WNW used to offer: Thorough research, great design, best production, true box-„art“, good instructions, enjoyable and So very informative website, great customer-service and on and on... That is what I am missing now with the demise of WNW. The true modelers, the real kit builders amongst us,will probably or hopefully be happy with Meng issuing WNW's plastic, as Meng stands for quality and as they, the modelers themselves will make their piece of art from any kit. And I am really looking forward to seeing their built Fokker Dr.1 here on this great forum!

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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #108 on: June 22, 2020, 06:35:19 PM »
Just a little side note, Meng´s boxart is not 100%  to WNW standards: the Oberursel is not rotating  ;)
But me too I‘m looking forward to Meng´s/WNW Dreidecker.

Jörg

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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #109 on: June 22, 2020, 06:35:37 PM »
It’s funny - I wasn’t to bothered about buying a Wingnut Dr.I because I have a couple of Roden boxing’s - yes I’ve noted the comments about build ability! - but now it’s going to come in a Meng box I’m intrigued and will certainly but a couple. I wonder if we’ll get the 5 marking options the Wingnut ‘early’ version and 5 from the ‘late’ version in one box from Meng? It’s possible but, being cynical, I doubt it. It could be we only get markings for one machine - a red one - and Meng leave Aviattic and a Pheon to fill the gap? Regarding instructions, no doubt Meng will have been privy to the basic Wingnut paperwork but I very much doubt we’ll get all the reference photos and Ronnie Barr artwork but, heh, I could be wrong!! The thing is, how many months will we have to wait before it hits the retailers? This year or next??

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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #110 on: June 22, 2020, 06:35:46 PM »
I wonder how the engine will be done? It’s not part of the dr1 moulding. Meng would need to get WNW engines or tool their own.

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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #111 on: June 22, 2020, 10:15:34 PM »
ME: i'm not that excited about the WNW Dreidecker, even less so now that it's Meng and lacks the Steve Anderson box art

ALSO ME: i'll need at least 5.

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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #112 on: June 22, 2020, 10:44:18 PM »
Interesting point regarding the engine sprue - maybe Meng tooled that as well for earlier kits and got that mould in the deal?

If the kit engine is "all new" work by Meng and it is not up to snuff, at least there are aftermarket alternatives. Meng does good work though on their other kit subjects so even if the engine is all new I don't see much reason to expect it to be bad (though seeing the box art with the non-moving rotary engine depicted does give a little pause that they may not understand the subject matter all that well....)
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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #113 on: June 23, 2020, 03:40:53 AM »
It’s funny - I wasn’t to bothered about buying a Wingnut Dr.I because I have a couple of Roden boxing’s - yes I’ve noted the comments about build ability! - but now it’s going to come in a Meng box I’m intrigued and will certainly but a couple. I wonder if we’ll get the 5 marking options the Wingnut ‘early’ version and 5 from the ‘late’ version in one box from Meng? It’s possible but, being cynical, I doubt it. It could be we only get markings for one machine - a red one - and Meng leave Aviattic and a Pheon to fill the gap? Regarding instructions, no doubt Meng will have been privy to the basic Wingnut paperwork but I very much doubt we’ll get all the reference photos and Ronnie Barr artwork but, heh, I could be wrong!! The thing is, how many months will we have to wait before it hits the retailers? This year or next??

Obviously some type of agreement has been reached by Meng and whoever is left conducting business in the name of WNW.

We don't know the terms of that agreement, so who knows regarding things like decal schemes.  It's quite possible all the artwork for the decals has also been transferred to Meng for the kit release.  Or maybe none of it has, and Meng's in-house people will bang out some decal schemes to include in the box.

There are lots of crappy model kit makers in the world, but Meng isn't one of them.

I have no reason to think they won't give us the usual amount of decal diversity and they should be solid enough.

The aftermarket is going to go crazy with options here as well.


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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #114 on: June 23, 2020, 04:21:50 AM »
Hm, I‘d say let’s see first what we get before we complain about what we maybe won’t get...  ;)
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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #115 on: June 23, 2020, 04:45:53 AM »
Here is all the evidence of a lovely model about to be released - a Dr.1 Triplane, designed, quality controlled and tweaked by WNW and about to be released by Meng - a company with a great reputation, and there are problems! No ways, don't give me them negative vibes! This is great news, and completely legit ... (is there any crook you know who goes on a massive ad campaign to advertise their future international crime??) So, we know the provenance of this kit, we know that Meng has done tooling for WNW in the past... but what else? Also we know that tooling for WNW was done by at least two Chinese companies and one Korean company at the very least .. but not a lot of further information... We are left to piece the evidence together ourselves, and there is some.. Can you allow me a little of your valuable browsing time to give you my synopsis and review? I will try to stick to evidence I can show... not prove, that is left up to you and the future to reveal... But if we try to predict, surmise and deduce we may just get a response from those who know just a tad more, so if the moderators will tolerate this, can we proceed...



This photo may not mean much to you, but to me it shows two different companies tooled these sprues, one for the Camel, and one for the Pup. Note the different diameters for the runners, the different diameters of the runner radii at the corners, the different lettering and particularly the number 1, and even the logo has differences! Maybe a bad day by the toolmaker, I don't think so! Bear with me, this has relevance....

A few ex-employees of WNW have stated, quite correctly, that many of the engine sprues are generic, and were used for many years for many models. The Mercedes engine particularly. But the Dr.1 has an Oberursel Ur.2 engine, and this seems to be a unique sprue, but it is the same engine as the Le Rhone 9J (and the J is important). The only other WNW kit I am aware of that has a production run with this engine is the Camel... And on carefully looking at the other Camel sprues, many of the other engine choices are already older sprues produced by WNW.. except the Bentley Br1! And if you have a careful look at the sprue differences on the WNW site (like I demonstrated above) it is quite obvious that the Le Rhone 9J sprue and the Ur2 sprue were produced by the same manufacturer and completely different to every other WNW rotary engine! So I looked carefully at the Camel sprues, just a bit different to other WNW tooling... We have heard, little noises, that Meng was responsible for other WNW toolings, could it be the Camel or just the engine? There is some rumour that there is at least one as yet unannounced WNW tooling by Meng for a future release... This is all great news! (but for sure not the H-P or the Lanc). I did a prediction on another thread that we would see the toolings used again... yes, the packaging, decals and instructions may not be the same in the future, but nothing we, as modellers, cannot improve on if need be and utilize...

I need to reiterate that we are in the golden era of WW1 aircraft modelling, and it isn't over yet, not by a long shot!

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Marc

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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #116 on: June 23, 2020, 05:03:22 AM »
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This photo may not mean much to you, but to me it shows two different companies tooled these sprues, one for the Camel, and one for the Pup.
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Hi Marc,

You kind of took the long way around to determine that.   :)  Just look at the box sides - the Pup says "Manufactured in China", the Camels (at least the two I have) say "Manufactured in Korea".  So definitely two different manufacturers.   Interestingly, the Camels are the only two kits out of the 30+ in my WNW stash that are from Korea. 

Cheers,
Eric

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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #117 on: June 23, 2020, 05:03:57 AM »
So, to summarise:

It's 100% a new tool 1/32 Dr.I.

Meng are releasing it fairly soon;

It's 100% the unreleased Dr.I kit WNW were working on & marketing;

Meng 100% tooled the WNW kit & maybe got the moulds in lieu of payment, but not 100% confirmed;

We don't know the price;

We assume it'll be roughly around the WNW $79 price point;

WNW have 100% ceased manufacturing new kits;

They are completing the orders they were contracted to;

And probably selling off existing stock to retailers as new stock has appeared, but not 100% confirmed;

No definitive word on what WNW will do with their existing moulds;

Nor what they will do with their Lancs & HP's that were in development;

But the optimistic amongst us hope they'll be sold & re-released under new ownership;

Or at least the popular ones will;

Whereas the Lanc & HP's may not be commercially viable.


Have I missed anything?

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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #118 on: June 23, 2020, 05:26:48 AM »
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This photo may not mean much to you, but to me it shows two different companies tooled these sprues, one for the Camel, and one for the Pup.
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Hi Marc,

You kind of took the long way around to determine that.   :)  Just look at the box sides - the Pup says "Manufactured in China", the Camels (at least the two I have) say "Manufactured in Korea".  So definitely two different manufacturers.   Interestingly, the Camels are the only two kits out of the 30+ in my WNW stash that are from Korea. 

Cheers,
Eric

HB W-29 is Korean, as is the RE.8

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Re: Meng announces a 1/32 scale Fokker DR.1
« Reply #119 on: June 23, 2020, 06:29:15 AM »
How many model producers are in South Korea?