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Offline RAGIII

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Re: Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 30.7.2019 Wings
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2019, 05:53:59 AM »
WOW! Wings, ribs and shading, and roundels look awesome Frank!
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Re: Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 30.7.2019 Wings
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2019, 06:35:20 AM »
Frank, nice wing, but the trailing edge shouldn't look like this?



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Re: Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 30.7.2019 Wings
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2019, 06:50:19 AM »
Damn, I'm getting old! I need to start to write down some lists to not forget things ...

Now it is to late to change this without destroying the painting and decals. The effect ist not that strong but visible on the orig pictures :(

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Re: Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 30.7.2019 Wings
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2019, 10:34:22 AM »
Beautiful job on the wings Frank , shading is well done . Not over bearing at all .



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Re: Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 30.7.2019 Wings
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2019, 09:47:58 PM »
Just get out the big round file and fix those wings.  ;D

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Re: Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 30.7.2019 Wings
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2019, 06:35:09 AM »
Oh dear Frank... we have all done that at some time. Personally I would leave the wings as they are because most people will be so blown away by the quality of your finished model they will not notice. And in time you too could learn to live with it....!

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Re: Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 30.7.2019 Wings
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2019, 06:51:03 AM »
Personally, I would improve it. Also the tip in the leading edge, although looking at the pictures I have doubts whether it is as in the drawing above. I couldn't live with it.  ;)

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Re: Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 30.7.2019 Wings
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2019, 07:22:25 AM »
Ok Frank, you obviously finish three kits in the same time I am finishing one. Don't play games, you are not old enough to be already retired, so what's your secret here?
Great start on that Morane, and "great start" means everything including the trailing edges of the wings.They don't always have to be so round as depicted on the drawing, have a look here http://wio.ru/ww1a/gal1.htm .
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Re: Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 30.7.2019 Wings
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2019, 12:22:16 AM »
Thank you all!

Don't play games, you are not old enough to be already retired, so what's your secret here?
8) PN sent.

"great start" means everything including the trailing edges of the wings.They don't always have to be so round as depicted on the drawing, have a look here http://wio.ru/ww1a/gal1.htm .
Nice and very helpful link, thanks!

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big round file and fix those wings.
is not the issue, but then I end up with thick trailing edges, but sand them thind would cause a repaint, and I need new decals  then.

So I think I follow Stephen's idea:
And in time you too could learn to live with it....!

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Re: Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 30.7.2019 Wings
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2019, 01:14:46 AM »
Hi!
Great work until now. This is one of my ideas/projects for next....years? But, as a 1/72nd fan, I will start with the Revell little kit.
Apart from scalloped edges of the wing (the straight ones are typical of the N), why you choose to use different colors for under and upper faces of the wings?
Looking at the original photos, it seems that under they are painted "dirty white" as above, no differences between the shade of grey of underwing and fuselage, and very little between underwing and white center of the Russian roundel. Did you find another photo?
Congrats for all the rest!
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Re: Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 30.7.2019 Wings
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2019, 02:03:33 AM »
Thanks Roberto!
I simply followed the description in the Datafile :)
- upper surfaces overpainted with gloss white
- wing under surface and tail unit in original clear doped finish
- metal areas in standard glossy black

As often in WWI modeling there is room for interpretation, but I liked the described painting in different colors.

Apart from scalloped edges of the wing (the straight ones are typical of the N)
I checked again the drawings: yes, your are right in this point!

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Re: Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 30.7.2019 Wings
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2019, 09:13:18 PM »
Thank you for your answers!
Yes, the front cover page from Bryan Knight say the same, but everytime my first steps in every model building is checking original photos, as I think every modeller here. So I keep my doubts about Datafile interpretation too, maybe the author had infos that I can't have.
So, keep going in this beautiful work that you've done until now!
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Roberto

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Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 5.8.2019 Cockpit
« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2019, 03:03:43 AM »
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Re: Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 5.8.2019 Cockpit
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2019, 04:42:17 AM »
Outstanding work Frank. The instruments look superb!
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Re: Morane-Saulnier type I, Eduard 1/48, Update 5.8.2019 Cockpit
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2019, 06:06:11 AM »
Great idea to use real wood for the back of the seat...
I build only subjects in 1/72nd scale, but I want to make a try...
The rest is first class modelling, I use too Kristal Kleer to reproduce glasses.
Cheers,
Roberto