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Offline ALBATROS1234

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original aircraft fabric on ebay?
« on: May 22, 2015, 10:47:13 AM »
the first link is of a pair of crosses and to me look like they came from a wing. there are perpendicular marks one direction seems to be from spars and the other direction from ribs as there are nail/tack marks.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW1-Imperial-German-Biplane-Insignia-Fabric-War-in-France-Old-Antique-/271876824031?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4d1f1bdf

the second to me looks suspect. the colors are not what i would expect from a ww1 aircraft. i think this could be a wall hanging someone made after the war sometime cuz it does look old.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW1-Imperial-German-Biplane-Fabric-Canvas-Iron-Cross-World-War-One-Dogfight-Old-/271873989407?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4cf3db1f


just thought you guys might want to take a look see.


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Re: original aircraft fabric on ebay?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2015, 11:13:57 AM »
Thanks Scott for posting the links, I know a bloke who may be interested.

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Re: original aircraft fabric on ebay?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2015, 11:17:07 AM »
like i said above those crosses look real to me but the green and red one looks suspect. then again theres a huge difference in the asking prices. thought you guys might enjoy looking at them.

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Re: original aircraft fabric on ebay?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2015, 11:19:13 AM »
Without apparent provenance, I think these 'artifacts' are highly dubious.

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Re: original aircraft fabric on ebay?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2015, 12:32:43 PM »
I agree with Bo.  The descriptions are right on two points - they are old and they are fabric.  Other than that, I don't think so.  :)

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Re: original aircraft fabric on ebay?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2015, 01:59:59 PM »
especially the the green and red one with the balken cross. those colors are nuthin like you would expect to see. the 2 linen eisenkruze are possibles i spose.

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Re: original aircraft fabric on ebay?
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2015, 05:23:11 PM »
Looks doubtful to me.  A provenance of being found in a crate of WWII stuff is not good enough for me.  If these were genuine artefacts wouldn't you expect someone to have written (discretely on the back perhaps) the aircraft serial number and the date on it, or on an accompanying note?

They may be old, but could easily be painted canvas from a tent or something else.  Especially the last one, the arms of the cross are so rough edged and uneven thicknesses - wouldn't an aircraft be marked much more accurately?  Perhaps the historians on here would know more than I do about the accuracy and dimensions, instructions etc provided during WWI - however in the UK RAF there was an actual trade group nicknamed "painters and dopers" which I believe must have descended from the early days?

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Re: original aircraft fabric on ebay?
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2015, 07:44:05 AM »
maybe not fakes but maybe something someone made as a wall hanger 90 years ago and ended up in a box to be found recently. the only thing that had me initially is the perpendicular rubbings and rusty nail lines. i put them up here for scrutiny and a bit of fun. we would have to see them in person and take measurements etc to confirm anything,fun to look at though.

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Re: original aircraft fabric on ebay?
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2015, 08:09:35 AM »
Maybe something made for a stage play back in the 40s or whoknowswhen. But yeah, crappy fakes is my take.