Rig that thing by Uschi Van der rosten

[Toldbod]

Any one there have tried the ringging wire from uschi?
I am on my frist ww1 Plane a Albatros DV from Eduard in 1:72 and nede some wire for rigging.
Is the superfine to thin to work With?
After What I Can find out it is only 0.02mm!!! This is realy thin.
Any one there have experince

Here is a link www.uschivdr.com/products-in-detail/rigging/

Best regards from Denmark
Henning

[uncletony]

Alex sent me one of each thickness when he had a promo on FB a while back. I have experimented with it; the super fine stuff is exactly that -- nearly invisible and probably perfect for 1/72. The stuff is black and is pretty easy to work with. Try it!

PS/ Edit: I am not too sure about the sizes he quotes on the web page. I think maybe they are inches, not mm. Or maybe they are measured when fully stretched? I am at work, so the stuff isn't in front of me to measure. I can when I get home (if I remember) -- but, I would say his guidelines are reliable: Standard for 1/32, Fine for 1/48, SF for 1/72.

[radio]

I have speak him with the phone. The size are in mm. I think it will be to thin. In 1:72 it will be 0,066mm or 0,07 mm.
Martin

[GrahamB]

Hi Henning,

I've only used the thinnest stuff once so far (the other two thickness were sold out at BNAModels)  - for the aerial array on a 1/72 Fairey Fulmar:

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234956517-sh-172-fairey-fulmar/?hl=fulmar

I think it looks great at this scale and would work for most 1/72 WW1 biplane applications - but maybe not for the thicker RAF wires. I've had similar (and cheaper) results by splitting EZline - the Fine size - just snap it and tease out the separate strands according to the thickness you want.

I had a bit of a shock when the UvdR thread arrived - a tiny little spool, but I guess if one is careful you could make it last.

Cheers,

GrahamB

[Uschi v. d. Rosten]

Hi Tolbod, hi all
@Tolbod: The superfine has been designed exactly for that
In case you have doubts: Send me a picture of the finished rigging on the model. We put that on facebook and let the people vote
if its in scale or not. If its not, you´ll get you money back.
How about it?

@radio
I remember that! Frankly: Thing is I´m not able to measure these lil diameters because all I have is a ruler which shows 0,5mm at max.
Furthermore its a stretch material, so the user kinda "decide via tension" what the exact diamater is going to be, if that makes sense.
Please dont nail me down on that. All I can guarantee is that it works as easy as a charme and lloks dope.
I rather would like to recommend this lil picture as an orientation:



Its part of this article on my website:
http://www.uschivdr.com/products-in-detail/rigging/
In case you have any further questions, please let me know.

@Bo: Supercool project you´ve got going on! Cant wait to see the next updates. Wonderful!

@Graham:
Thanks for choosing UvdR products and thanks for sharing your experience. That lil Fulmar is one sweet model.
Your method to split the EZ line sounds interesting. I never tried that.
As for the price I may ask you what you have paid for both, the Uschi thread and the EZline.
Actually I think that we are cheaper per feet because we have more on the bobbin.
The bobbin is quite small its diameter, that is true, but considering the material it carries....it should last for
a lifetime of an aircraft modeler.

Again, thank you very much for bringin´ your remarks on the table, everyone.
Its lways very interesting.


Cheers! Alex
https://www.facebook.com/uschi.vanderrosten

[Toldbod]

Hi Alex
That is a fine offer, but I have ordered fine and superfine in your shop friday 28 March, and now waiting to receive it.

[Toldbod]

I have today received the tread from Uschi and this is insane thin, I am sure this will look great when mounted.
In my opinion even fine is useful in 1:72.
I was afraid it will snap to easy but no, you can stretch it really really long.
Now I must hasten to build, so I can try it

Best regards Henning

[GrahamB]

Hi Alex,

well I ordered the medium size line from BNA Models Australia when it came back in stock and received it couple of days ago. I am very happy with it - it was just seeing the tiny spool (disregarding how much line there is actually on it!). I've bought EZline from Littlecars in UK recently in the 'rope' colour as it will be OK for ship rigging (signal halyards and the like) - but your thinnest stuff will be absolutely perfect for standing rigging etc on 1/700 ships and easier to use than the 'Caenis' monofilament. Splitting EZ line is OK (I used it intact for long runs on the Starry Pup model but split-down for things like the elevator/rudder/aileron/cockpit cables [http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss320/zeuxo/WNWPupC312_zps13fd59c0.jpg] [http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss320/zeuxo/003_zps64be2a96.jpg]

But your stuff - great product- no waste!

Thanks for the kind remarks about the Fulmar.

Happy days for modellers.

cheers,

GrahamB

[WillScarlet]

    Question: I have used the EZ Line to rig two previous WNW kits, but it tends to have flat areas through-out it's length, which REALLY shows in the final model. Is the line from Uschi truly round in cross section?   

[Skids]

Hi

I was going to order some of this from scalemodelshop but the sizes don't read the same. Uschi has them at 0.03, 0.02, 0.01 where as sms has it as 0.07, 0.04 and 0.02.

I assume they are the same ?

Thanks
Simon

[Ian from Doncaster]

I was just looking into this product today.

I am a little confused over the size.  0.03mm diameter in 1:32 would represent a full scale diameter of just 0.96mm??

I have used EZ line before but am running out.  I like the sound of this product though ...

[uncletony]

I think UvDR's measurements are a wee bit suspect. See his comments above. Really kind of impossible to measure accurately even with a digital caliper.

[Ian from Doncaster]

Yeah I noticed, I was thinking the same.  In was wondering if it would work to count how many windings would be needed to cover a cylinder over a fixed length, then divide that length by the number of windings.  So say if it took 50 windings to cover a length of 2mm then the diameter would calculate as 0.04 mm.  I guess that could work but may be difficult?

I expect that with most products, word of mouth and peer recommendations are the best way of finding out?

[Toldbod]

I have tried to measure the fine and Superfine from Uschi with a special Camera but the measuring/Photo is on my Work computer .
Tomorrow i will upload the result.

I have used the Superfine on my 1:72 Albatros here http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=4008.msg68728#msg68728. it is almost to thin but I love it, when you see the plane in real life it is nearly invisible but it is there and look great.


Best regards Henning

[Toldbod]

Here is the photo of Fine and Super fine tread.
The tread are non-loaded despite it look liked it is, but this is due to the way the photo is taken.
After this I will say super fine is around 0,04 and fine is around 0,08
From 8 to 9 there are 1mm.

Fine.


Super fine


Best regards Henning