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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2025, 10:41:57 PM »
You are making great progress. Looking forward to more!
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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2025, 09:30:35 AM »
I really enjoy seeing the extra work you're putting into this one. Thanks for sharing! I'm eager to see the next update.
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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2025, 03:46:12 AM »
The process of turning the various sub-assemblies into a biplane starts with the inner struts being added first.  The thought is that the brass rod I will be using is pretty strong and does a good job of positioning the upper wing, in contrast to starting with the relatively weaker outer struts and adding the stronger brass rod struts second.    I have also been influenced watching Microaces builds on Youtube and I see the inner struts done first, the outer struts done second. 

The inner struts are a mix of K&S 3/64 brass rod, Plastruct .040 styrene rod and K&S .020 music wire wrapped in cardstock. 

The rear inner struts and the landing wheel struts are a folded piece of cardstock with a .020 music wire piece inserted inside.   This strut is pretty narrow, so the thinnest music wire is needed and the paper cut very narrow.   It ended up that MH Ready Patch was needed to close up the seam and the resulting strut was spray painted green primer.



Several struts made from either Brass Rod or Styrene rod ware cut and painted in green primer.    Also shown are the wheel struts and the effect I am looking for there is to show the thin inner wire and the simulated aerodynamic fairing with the ends of the fairing cut at an angle exposing the inner wire.



The fuselage is pre-drilled with the holes that the struts will attach to   I started with the forward strut shown in the picture below, made from brass rod and the rear struts added next.  Ther rear strut is music wire and paper fairing this time around, the Udet Fokker had the rear strut brass rod.  The challenges in getting the inner struts right on the Fokker D7, at least in my experience, stem from the struts entering the fuselage from the side, not the top, so the way I approached their construction, they can rotate.  The struts attach at the bottom of the fuselage and they act in all three dimensions meaning they are pretty long and small differences in cut length complicate construction.   And the struts are pretty thin in diameter.



The rear struts are wire and paper aerodynamic faring.  On the UDET Fokker the rear inner strut was brass rod as well as the forward strut.  On this build I went with the music wire and paper because I believe the actual Fokker had an aerodynamic rear fairing and also because I wanted to use a less stiff, less stiff than brass rod, strut.  Too many stiff long struts complicates matters.   

The rear struts are attached, however the assembly was not stable, the upper wing would move as the strut sets would rotate in their fuselage attachments.   The short leading strut is added and it needed to be made of brass rot to provide enough strength to stabilize the assembly and keep the upper wing in its correct position.   The styrene was not strong enough to do the job.



Finally the third forward inner strut is added, this one made of styrene rod as additional strength is no longer an issue.



I still have some clean up here but this is the overall result.   













 
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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2025, 06:27:17 PM »
The overall result is looking very good!

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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2025, 12:39:33 AM »
The outer wing 'N' struts are constructed and installed.  I made them similar to the Udet Fokker build, I sanded down opposite sides of Evergreen 222 Polystyrene 1/6" rod, and cut sharp edges to fit into the pre-drilled upper and lower wing holes.  Gluing is by Gel Super Glue.



Landing gear sub wing and struts are pre-assembled along with the EZ-line strut wires.   The turnbuckles are rendered in painted velum paper wrapped around a .039 music wire, similar to the Udet Fokker.  Paper clips hold the turnbuckles in place prior to final assembly.



Installation was tricky.  Each of the four (4) struts is a separate piece and I ran into a problem with the forward strut connection to the fuselage bottom where the inner strut wants to occupy the same space, resulting in .02" music wire inside the strut having to be cut short at this location.  I did not get to use the full benefit of the wood blocks that I placed in the fuselage at this location.  The left side struts were glued, allowed to dry and then the right struts were glued in place.  And re-glued.  And re-glued.....  I appeared to achieve the intended effect of the thin wire showing at the fuselage connection and the aerodynamic strut covering cut at an angle at this location.  Glueing is also done with gel super glue.     The E-Z line strut wires and wheels are assembled.   




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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2025, 11:31:30 PM »
I finished up the Fokker.

This is an in-process picture of rear horizontal stabilizer EX Line.    This is accomplished in one piece of easy line, threaded through the left horizontal  stabilizer, then the vertical stabilizer and out the right horizontal stabilizer. The bottom support struts will hide the entry points on the bottom.   The tail skid is also in place and was made from a piece of "hobby wood" from my ship model stash, stained with mahogany gel and sealed with a clear coat.   It is glued in place with gel super glue.



At the start of this series of posts I wrote that to work on my skills I did a second Fokker after doing the Udet Fokker and I believe that the purpose was served.   Making the graphics skins from a new source of graphics was helped in replicating something I had recently done was a big help.    Putting wood blocks at strut and wing attachment points was a big winner.    The strut with wire and paper aerodynamic surfaces was success as well as tires made from O rings.   I am vary happy with the graphics, they came out very sharp. 

Second thoughts are that when it applies I want to try making the wing spars from wood, not cardboard as the wing was just not straight enough.  And I am not happy enough with the propeller.  Maybe at some point I will redo-in.   

Here are some pictures of the finished plane.    The carry handles and step on the bottom of the fuselage are made from a flexible craft wire, bought I believe from the Floral section of the local craft store and spray painted green primer.  The bottom horizontal stabilizer struts are evergreen styrene rod.

During the posts there were a couple of questions and comments that I did not reply to.     I was asked what flying model airplane site I got inspired to use gam play templates; What I recall is it involved ready made WWI airplanes that came with no skins and a commenter suggested using game play graphics and printing them on tissue.    Also regarding decals, I guess that what I am doing here, at least for the fuselage, is treating the paper skins as decals onto a prepared structure.



















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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2025, 03:02:23 AM »
Damn son, that is A number one great modeling right there!

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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2025, 06:49:55 PM »
The end result looks really good. You have definitely mastered the "skinning" process.

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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2025, 08:20:28 PM »
Great results here! Is that plane REALLY made of paper????
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Re: Fokker DVII Early in 1/33, 247/18 Jasta 28 Pilot Unknown.
« Reply #39 on: May 06, 2025, 02:56:22 PM »
Very realistic job!  Nice finish.  This was fun to follow...Dan