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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Ryan on October 04, 2018, 09:52:12 PM

Title: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 04, 2018, 09:52:12 PM: Pre-ordered this as soon as it was available, so begins the adventure!

Ryan

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Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 04, 2018, 09:57:07 PM: First examination of the kit revealed some ejector pin marks that will be removed. They are not to deep and removal will be easy.

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My usual method is Super Glue to fill the deeper ones, some scraping with a curved blade and final dressing with sand paper in a set of locking tweezers. The latter being one of the most uselful tools on a model desk, you can cut the sand paper to the size you need and get into very tight corners.

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Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: lone modeller on October 05, 2018, 04:18:26 AM: I agree about using tweezers to get sand paper into very tight corners - a very useful trick to know.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 05, 2018, 04:44:55 AM: Quote from: lone modeller on October 05, 2018, 04:18:26 AM
I agree about using tweezers to get sand paper into very tight corners - a very useful trick to know.

Stephen.

Yes, hands down one of my best tools.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 07, 2018, 12:59:48 AM: I have a question for the Albatros experts (or in general German AC production) regarding the finish of aluminum interior parts.
Are these dressed like the Fokker Eindecker cowling?

Thanks for any help, some grainy pics suggests that these parts were simply not an even finish.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 07, 2018, 01:01:05 AM: I should add that I am referring to natural metal surfaces.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on October 07, 2018, 05:18:42 AM: I am looking forward to seeing this one progress!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 08, 2018, 10:57:57 AM: Evening builders,

Ejector pins removed it was on to paint. This comfy library finish was achieved with the products shown over Tamiya primer, a final step was a clear coat consisting of Tamiya clear yellow and orange.

It took some time to get it just right. :)

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Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Juan on October 08, 2018, 11:32:43 AM: Beautiful start Ryan, like your wood tones.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 08, 2018, 11:35:38 AM: Thanks I really enjoy painting the wood components of these machines.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: aliluke on October 08, 2018, 03:18:49 PM: Very nice wood tones there. Although I haven't experienced it with the Albatross, you may have to clean out the slots for the internal frames as reputedly it is a very tight fit...

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on October 08, 2018, 07:43:22 PM: Quote from: aliluke on October 08, 2018, 03:18:49 PM
Very nice wood tones there. Although I haven't experienced it with the Albatross, you may have to clean out the slots for the internal frames as reputedly it is a very tight fit...

Cheers
Alistair

I agree with Alistair, beautiful wood tones. Having built three of the Albatros kits I will confirm that it is advisable to clean out the slots. The fit tolerances are that tight!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 08, 2018, 09:58:10 PM: Thanks RAGIII and Alistair I will take your advice!

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: gbrivio on October 09, 2018, 01:54:34 AM: Nice voodgrain painting, waiting for next updates.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 09, 2018, 02:53:30 AM: Quote from: gbrivio on October 09, 2018, 01:54:34 AM
Nice voodgrain painting, waiting for next updates.
Ciao
Giuseppe

Thanks sir, it was fun watching paint transform into wood...well kind of. :)
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Borsos on October 09, 2018, 03:48:05 AM: That's no doubt a fine representation for wood. You used a sponge instead of a brush? I also have a small set of Abteilung Oil paints and I am not too convinced of their quality, but that shade obviously does what it should do.
Andreas
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 09, 2018, 04:00:49 AM: I find the quality to be very good.

This was used to make the grain, I notched it to fit the size I needed.

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I applied pretty wet to get this effect and of course trial and error.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Borsos on October 09, 2018, 05:32:10 AM: Looks like a great tool, thanks for showing.
i have those, mainly for creating chipping effects, but they are a little bit on the soft side
(http://www.greenstuffworld.com/3510-thickbox_default/schaumpinsel-sponge-pinsel-weathering-15mm.jpg)
Andreas
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 09, 2018, 06:41:45 AM: Those sponge brushes are quite stiff and really inexpensive.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Borsos on October 09, 2018, 07:08:16 AM: Ordered. Great stuff.
I am keen on seeing your Albatros coming together.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 09, 2018, 07:12:20 AM: I was drawn to them because of the chisel edge, I'll take some pics of the ones I modified to fit the Albatros.

When I tried to use a sponge clamped in tweezers I kept chipping my paint job with the tweezers.

Thanks for your comments Borsos.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 09, 2018, 10:16:19 PM: Borsos,

Here are the other participants in the wood technique.

The regular brushes are used to spread the oil and the sponge is used to clean up and refine the grain effect.

You can see the notch I cut into the sponge to allow it to custom fit the area I needed. (I imagine also could have cut it to a radius edge to work a little better)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1911/43386346260_8996820f87_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/296UnbL)Sponge applicator (https://flic.kr/p/296UnbL) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ssasho0 on October 09, 2018, 11:18:31 PM: Great progress so far!
In regards to the sponge brushes...well I just cut a piece of sponge to the required size, stick it to my lockable pliers and use it absolutely the same way.... it costs me generally nothing as tehre are some sponges coming with aftermarket for example :)
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 09, 2018, 11:32:01 PM: Quote from: Ssasho0 on October 09, 2018, 11:18:31 PM
Great progress so far!
In regards to the sponge brushes...well I just cut a piece of sponge to the required size, stick it to my lockable pliers and use it absolutely the same way.... it costs me generally nothing as tehre are some sponges coming with aftermarket for example :)

Absolutely, the problem I was having is I was nicking the paint off of corners with my locking tweezers, there is no chance of this wit the brush pictured.

Thanks for your comments.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Borsos on October 09, 2018, 11:34:27 PM: Thanks Ryan!
I too worked with sponges in pliers (for chipping effects, not for woidgrain) and I always found the Sponge being too soft for the things I wanted to do with it.

Andreas
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 09, 2018, 11:51:40 PM: You will like these I hope, there is a hidden plastic support inside the foam to keep it stiff.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: kornbeef on October 10, 2018, 05:07:04 PM: Quote from: Ryan on October 07, 2018, 12:59:48 AM
I have a question for the Albatros experts (or in general German AC production) regarding the finish of aluminum interior parts.
Are these dressed like the Fokker Eindecker cowling?

Thanks for any help, some grainy pics suggests that these parts were simply not an even finish.

Ryan
No the aluminium sheet wasnt machined like Fokker not from what I've seen anyway. Just plain unpolished metal
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 11, 2018, 12:05:04 AM: Thanks, I noticed the reproduction pics at the Vintage Aviator did not show the turning...should have looked there first!

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: GazzaS on October 14, 2018, 07:15:13 PM: Nice!

Gaz
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 14, 2018, 10:28:03 PM: Thanks Gaz, I hope to update later with more progress.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 15, 2018, 11:03:11 AM: Evening builders,

Tonight I made some headway with the internal structure. Starting at the engine bearers, I used a darker base coat with a wet streaking effect. Also in the shot is the pilots floorboard, really lucked out on that panel.

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The rest of the bulkheads where lightly grained and varnished, the MG bulkhead, last (2) shoats is very difficult to grain because of the many protrusions on the part. Not very happy with it, I need to hand grain it perhaps.

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Thanks Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: coyotemagic on October 15, 2018, 01:36:32 PM: Magnificent wood work, Ryan! Very convincing.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: GazzaS on October 15, 2018, 04:26:48 PM: I'll repeat that... Wood looks good!

I must admit... the moment I learn that the film was responsible for those dark-wood Albatrosses, I was highly disappointed.

Gaz
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: aliluke on October 15, 2018, 04:52:34 PM: Hi Ryan
You are on your way to becoming a master of plastic woodwork. I'm deeply impressed and we need a tutorial!

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: KevTheModeller on October 15, 2018, 07:21:33 PM: Looking forward to this build, I've just added the kit to my stash.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 15, 2018, 10:11:45 PM: Quote from: GazzaS on October 15, 2018, 04:26:48 PM
I'll repeat that... Wood looks good!

I must admit... the moment I learn that the film was responsible for those dark-wood Albatrosses, I was highly disappointed.

Gaz

Could you explain Gaz, I'm not sure I understand.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 15, 2018, 10:50:23 PM: Quote from: aliluke on October 15, 2018, 04:52:34 PM
Hi Ryan
You are on your way to becoming a master of plastic woodwork. I'm deeply impressed and we need a tutorial!

Cheers
Alistair

Thanks Alistair, hardly a master just trial and error till it looks good.

Technique I'm trying to master is what I call "wet graining", this is how I did the pilot's floor board and engine bearers. The process is just like oil paint graining except you let the brush or foam float over the surface instead of applying a lot of pressure as you drag. The oil is also a bit wetter than you would normally grain with, I hope this makes sense.

it works best with flat surfaces.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on October 16, 2018, 08:27:30 AM: Quote from: coyotemagic on October 15, 2018, 01:36:32 PM
Magnificent wood work, Ryan! Very convincing.
Cheers,
Bud

I certainly agree with my Amigo! Very well done to date!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 16, 2018, 12:50:17 PM: Thanks RAG.

Tonight I edge grained the sides of the bulkheads using Tamiya Brown Panel Liner. The idea being the cut edges would be darker as they would absorb more varnish.

Kinda even looks like plywood.

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in conclusion I stripped the MG bulkhead, I wanted another shot at graining it.

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Thank goodness for Easy Off oven cleaner!

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Vicious on October 16, 2018, 01:18:31 PM: I put myself in the front row ... ;D... I'm also building the same kit already for a month and a half now but being my first biplane I'm going very very slowly and I started from the engine that I would like to detail .... beautiful work on the wood!
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 16, 2018, 09:59:51 PM: Thanks Vicious, welcome aboard.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: lcarroll on October 16, 2018, 10:32:12 PM: Ryan,
Just a word of caution; ensure you don't leave any paint/stain on the outside edges of your formers/bulkheads. The tolerances on these kits are so small that a coat of paint will adversely effect the fit of the assembly. Ask me how I know this?? :-[ :-[
Great work so far, you are really taking a detailed and patient approach to this Build. The floorboard staining really caught my eye, nicely done and I'm enjoying following your progress.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 16, 2018, 11:13:24 PM: Certainly will Lance, thanks for the warning, I stand ready to scrape and sand so they will fit!

I do like to paint till I get it right (to my eye), for example I have stripped the fuselage once, that pesky bulkhead now 3 times!

In fact if I don't strip anything i'm probably doing something wrong.

And yeah the floor board was pure luck!

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 22, 2018, 10:33:21 AM: Got a little more done this weekend.

First up was the radiator bulkhead, this was the part I had stripped earlier, just not satisfied with it.

Well very satisfied now, the cockpit side was done with oils in my now usual method.

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The engine side was more difficult, I tried some hand graining near the top, the radiator cover most of this.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1973/45430666692_630e05036b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cdy3qL)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2cdy3qL) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Though probably not entirely correct, I kept the unique graining I created on the small instrument panel.

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Some final work was on the MG drums, in Testor's Non Buffing Aliminum.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1980/44568612695_9a95a93f6f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aUnMNP)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2aUnMNP) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Thanks for looking.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on October 22, 2018, 11:16:31 AM: I really like what you are doing here Ryan! Looking great.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: xan on October 22, 2018, 02:45:01 PM: Very beautifull work !
Loocking for your brushes i find that in Amazone...
it seems ok for our works isn't it iI mean, we didn't need larger...

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81qAfNYq4lL._SL1500_.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 22, 2018, 11:05:03 PM: Thanks for checking in Xan.

You can find an assortment pack of those in different sizes, I would get those.

https://www.amazon.com/Value-Pack-10-Pc-Foam-Paint-Brush/dp/B003UHJDAS

I probably need to show a step by step process as the effects don't always require a foam brush.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 23, 2018, 05:31:44 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on October 22, 2018, 11:16:31 AM
I really like what you are doing here Ryan! Looking great.
RAGIII

Agree, looking good as it moves along !

Ed
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: GazzaS on October 23, 2018, 06:51:45 AM: Some of that wood graining is just excellent.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 23, 2018, 06:57:32 AM: Quote from: GazzaS on October 23, 2018, 06:51:45 AM
Some of that wood graining is just excellent.

Only some of it! ;D

Hehe just kidding, thanks again GazzaS

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on October 25, 2018, 01:23:30 PM: Evening builders,

This hardly counts as a true update, but I was pretty pleased with the outcome. The wood process was explained earlier, the grey green is hand painted from Vajello and the wash is Tamiya Dark Brown Panel Liner.
Still needs a flat coat and the wash my be too dark for some, but in shadow, at the back of the engine it should be just fine.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1909/44630846305_d3cb98e7b1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aZSKG6)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2aZSKG6) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1928/44630846275_0790f80e5b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aZSKFz)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2aZSKFz) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Thanks
Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2018, 11:50:54 PM: Taking a break from simulated wood, I started the engine construction.
I have a the PE HGW/ Eduard ignition harness en route and should have it today, more work after I get that installed.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4869/44979905594_9c8d933647_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bwHLRG)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2bwHLRG) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1965/45653903022_44110c792f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cyhbP1)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2cyhbP1) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Thanks
Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on November 06, 2018, 12:06:35 AM: Nice clean start on the engine Ryan
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 06, 2018, 12:38:56 AM: Thanks RAGIII, do you recall how tightly the lower wings fit into the fuse?

Will the wing root fit into the contoured notch on the fuse sides, did you have to clean it up a bit to fit tightly?

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: pepperman42 on November 06, 2018, 04:34:23 AM: Very effective wood simulation!!

Steve
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on November 06, 2018, 04:54:42 AM: Quote from: Ryan on November 06, 2018, 12:38:56 AM
Thanks RAGIII, do you recall how tightly the lower wings fit into the fuse?

Will the wing root fit into the contoured notch on the fuse sides, did you have to clean it up a bit to fit tightly?

Ryan

They are like the rest of the kit a tight fit. During my build there was some discussion on slightly sanding and or scraping the root portion to get the right dihedral. It started on this page of my build log.

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=8732.315

There were also other comments in either Trackpads, GazzaS build or another about removing a tab. Can't remember for sure but others might.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 06, 2018, 05:35:46 AM: Thanks RAG, very helpful!

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 06, 2018, 05:56:35 AM: Quote from: pepperman42 on November 06, 2018, 04:34:23 AM
Very effective wood simulation!!

Steve

Steve, thanks its been fun...still learning as this will be my first bi-plane model.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on November 06, 2018, 07:23:00 AM: Quote from: Ryan on November 06, 2018, 05:35:46 AM
Thanks RAG, very helpful!

Ryan

One other thing that was probably just my build. I found that the dihedral turned to anhidral depending on which wing I inserted first. Test Fit SEVERAL times before gluing!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Vicious on November 06, 2018, 07:28:18 AM: Since I'm doing just the same model ... plus it's my first WnW and biplane ... I'm greedy looking at your post, I used the same set of HGW but I found that the electrical wiring in PE being flat are ugly but the rest is fine, I thought to use the plates with the information on the engine to give a little 'texture and then glue on the decals of the kit ... hoping that has the desired effect
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 06, 2018, 07:47:47 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on November 06, 2018, 07:23:00 AM
Quote from: Ryan on November 06, 2018, 05:35:46 AM
Thanks RAG, very helpful!

Ryan

One other thing that was probably just my build. I found that the dihedral turned to anhidral depending on which wing I inserted first. Test Fit SEVERAL times before gluing!
RAGIII

Yes, good advice.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 06, 2018, 07:50:50 AM: Quote from: Vicious on November 06, 2018, 07:28:18 AM
Since I'm doing just the same model ... plus it's my first WnW and biplane ... I'm greedy looking at your post, I used the same set of HGW but I found that the electrical wiring in PE being flat are ugly but the rest is fine, I thought to use the plates with the information on the engine to give a little 'texture and then glue on the decals of the kit ... hoping that has the desired effect

Yes the PE is flat, but it will be just fine for me...I esp like the distributer bundles.

I might thicken them up with paint, haven't decided yet, thanks for looking and chiming in sir, good luck with your build.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Vicious on November 06, 2018, 08:02:37 AM: the distribution are ok but the spark plug cable for me looks also little bit short and not so easy to handle,i tried one,i think i go with some lead wire 0.2mm or something similar....anyway great looking wood!!... ;)
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 06, 2018, 08:15:24 AM: I'll check it out, thanks for the warning. :)

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 12, 2018, 11:02:14 AM: Work continues on the D.V, the following pics are the fitment of the engine bay bulkheads to the fuselage.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4820/44013864960_5d6d4e6575_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a4myCG)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2a4myCG) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4806/31959766338_5191ceb48e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QGba57)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/QGba57) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4851/45781434382_cb4e2af3c0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cKxPry)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2cKxPry) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

And with the engine test fit.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4832/45781434042_3e16a65f75_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cKxPkG)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2cKxPkG) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Make no mistake this is a really tight fit is was a lot of work just to get it this far...but eventually it got much better.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4844/31959766558_5957d3eaa2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QGba8U)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/QGba8U) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Also did a little work on the seat and bulkhead.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4894/45734424182_25780ac36a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cFoSWS)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2cFoSWS) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4903/45064238474_3c3b1880dc_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bEb15S)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2bEb15S) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

More soon.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Manni on November 12, 2018, 04:42:12 PM: Very nice work, You have matched the wood tones really good.This will be a great tribute to Manfred (Manni ;)) Richthofen.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 12, 2018, 05:17:06 PM: Thanks very much Manni, it’s been a chore not to damage it during construction, the Vajello based effect is quite fragile.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on November 13, 2018, 01:13:03 AM: Frames and engine bearers look great in place! Your wood tones look outstanding!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 13, 2018, 04:30:46 AM: Yeah I eventually wrangled them in there!

Thanks.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: lone modeller on November 14, 2018, 02:16:25 AM: As others have commented, the wood tones are truly realistic. A wonderful build going on here - much to learn obviously.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 14, 2018, 04:46:40 AM: Thanks Stephen, I have much to learn though...this is my first Biplane.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 14, 2018, 12:45:45 PM: No build update tonight, but I did want to show the Hobby Zone Jig I am assembling. The pics, I hope, give a sense of how large this thing is.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1955/31998155018_9f4c192cae_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QKyUFU)Zee Jig is Up (https://flic.kr/p/QKyUFU) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1963/44956116125_298e357f89_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2buBR5r)Zee Jig is Up (https://flic.kr/p/2buBR5r) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

And finally as a further illustration of size, this is the 1/32 Special Hobby Morane!

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1929/31998155028_4136e99d26_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QKyUG5)Zee Jig is Up (https://flic.kr/p/QKyUG5) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 14, 2018, 12:50:49 PM: Like all HZ products it is of particle board construction and very well made, just need wood glue and patience.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: pepperman42 on November 19, 2018, 02:16:12 AM: Wow!! That's a Gotha sized jig!!

Steve
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: lone modeller on November 19, 2018, 03:26:58 AM: Jig? Who needs a jig when there are paint pots, blocks of wood, books etc lying around the place!

Lokks really good to me but I think a litlle too large for True Scale models.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Europapete on November 19, 2018, 04:38:15 AM: yeah, I was just thinking that 's kind of overkill for 1/144th scale.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Europapete on November 19, 2018, 04:39:01 AM: lolol, sorry , couldn't resist.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 19, 2018, 04:41:38 AM: Yeah it is a bit bigger than I thought it was going to be!
Especially in comparison with the Lilliputian Morane.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Gisbod on November 19, 2018, 05:47:28 AM: Just catching up Ryan,

Amazing wood effects! Very impressive.

Guy
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 19, 2018, 11:04:42 AM: Here is the finished jig with the star of our show mounted in it.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4822/32074936078_ee9cc17176_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QSmr2h)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/QSmr2h) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 19, 2018, 11:14:36 AM: Moving along with the build I started the wash on the fuselage, here on the right is the beginning of the wash, the left side is untouched.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4834/45942034341_2054cd6b4b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cZJWdn)Wash Started (https://flic.kr/p/2cZJWdn) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Using the Tamiya Dark Brown Panel Liner the wash was completed on both sides then given a flat coat.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4870/32074936038_f52d02d741_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QSmr1A)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/QSmr1A) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4886/45033644965_73f169e7af_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bBtcGz)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2bBtcGz) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4842/32074935928_16e72a63e8_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QSmqYG)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/QSmqYG) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

The wash goes on dark but when flat coated it knocks it down a little.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: krow113 on November 19, 2018, 11:25:50 AM: Looks good!
That jig has a diff way of holding the wings.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 19, 2018, 11:28:36 AM: Quote from: krow113 on November 19, 2018, 11:25:50 AM
Looks good!
That jig has a diff way of holding the wings.

Yes magnets in the brackets hold the wings in place, they are quite strong.

We will see how useful they are eventually!

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on November 19, 2018, 11:29:32 AM: Awesome Jig and the Albie is looking great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: aliluke on November 19, 2018, 02:42:02 PM: Superb woodwork there Ryan. You are becoming a master of this aspect - a madter of all aspects actually! I must try that Tamiya panel liner some day.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Borsos on November 19, 2018, 05:58:40 PM: I am not sure about the huge jig, but your progress on the interior woodwork is actually amazing. And in my opinion it is worth to accentuate shadows and lights a little more in a fuselage which is later on dark and barely visible. So no overdone washings here as far as it gets to my personal taste.
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 19, 2018, 10:53:57 PM: Thanks everyone.

The Tamiya liner is enamel based and dries relatively fast. Once dry it can be brought back to life with thinner to correct and refine the effect, great product.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: lcarroll on November 19, 2018, 11:09:48 PM: Superb results with the final treatment of the wood effect Ryan. The wash and panel liner are very impressive and I really like the effect you've achieved here. I have the grey version of the Tamiya panel line accent color and will be getting a bottle of the brown to try your technique. Nicely done!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 19, 2018, 11:20:28 PM: Thanks Lance, they have (2) browns a regular light brown and the dark one you see here.

I wish they also had a dark grey that would come in handy on some finishes.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: lcarroll on November 20, 2018, 12:10:28 AM: Ryan,
Yes, the grey is quite light, I think it's meant for accent work on armor such as drab or green finishes. Thanks for the info, I didn't realize there were two different brown versions of the stuff.
I'm curious about that new Jig, where are the magnets you refer to? Do the wing tips get clamped with the wingnuts and screws or are they secured by the magnets? ???
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 20, 2018, 12:28:06 AM: Lance, I'll post some close ups of the magnets and clamps so you can see the set up.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: lone modeller on November 20, 2018, 03:10:24 AM: The wood effects that you have achieved are stunning. In this scale the grain would be visible - you have got the right tones and lines with amazing clarity.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 20, 2018, 03:57:52 AM: Thanks Stephen, I will admit I have scale wood fatigue right now and am excited to close it up!

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 20, 2018, 11:04:47 PM: Lance here are some close ups of how the jig secures the model in place. High powered magnets are embedded in the clamps.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4834/45969327821_28c5a236e9_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d39PBB)Jig Pics (https://flic.kr/p/2d39PBB) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4874/45969327781_40b54f6652_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d39PAV)Jig Pics (https://flic.kr/p/2d39PAV) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: lcarroll on November 20, 2018, 11:31:55 PM: Thanks Ryan, neat idea!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 21, 2018, 12:47:45 AM: We will see how good it works, I do wonder about the spongy hold the unit has since there is foam pads on the clamping surfaces. Having said that the rear clamp on the Albatros is stuck tight!

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 21, 2018, 02:19:29 PM: Hello I started scraping and cleaning out the grooves for the internal structures...the warnings are all true, they wont fit if there is paint in the groove!

Its additionally stressful as the finish is so fragile, one jump of the scraper and well you know tragedy.

Anyway here is the shot, I should have a lot of time over the next few days to get a lot more done.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4887/45067577145_6a987ed9a0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bEt7ya)Test Fir (https://flic.kr/p/2bEt7ya) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 23, 2018, 04:37:23 AM: Man this area of the build was very tedious in getting the seat and support rods set.

After hollowing out the holes in rear bulkhead the unpainted rods were inserted and glued.

I made the choice to just brush paint the rod and seat mounting bracket once they were glued up and dry. (bracket not shown and was installed later)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4820/45944925322_f066ce1214_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cZZKAS)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2cZZKAS) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4850/45944925182_2789a0103d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cZZKys)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2cZZKys) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on November 23, 2018, 07:04:14 AM: Terrific work. Very Neat and clean painting and assembly!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2018, 12:36:16 AM: Thanks I can't imagine someone building the Green Trilogy set...3 of these in a row eesh!

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: pepperman42 on November 24, 2018, 12:47:20 AM: Very nice progress

Steve
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Juan on November 24, 2018, 01:30:31 AM: Looking good Ryan, very eye catching.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 25, 2018, 01:48:46 PM: Thanks guy, here is another update.

I have a 50/50 success rate with PE seat belts, what was an enjoyable painting session turned ugly real fast. After brush painting the shoulder belts, I set them and proceeded to the lap belts.
This is when it went south.....a delicate finish and some misplaced super glue was the chain reaction that ended up in a ruined seat and lap belt.

Plan B involves a replacing the seat and some HGW belts. To remove the seat and rear mount I had to clip things apart, good news I saved the wood grain pieces, the pics show the story...btw I also finished playing around with the detail painting of the forward bulked.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4872/45982268172_4f5cc5909e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d4i9k7)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2d4i9k7) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4874/45977505942_77c88f45cb_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d3SJFG)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2d3SJFG) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4885/45303124964_a04b48a451_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2c2hmHs)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2c2hmHs) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

This post is not all bad news I did wrap up the fule tank and ammo drums and set them in place.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4866/32163719008_aa0c9eb27a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R1ct6s)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/R1ct6s) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4812/46034405031_19dce9b78f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d8UmNt)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2d8UmNt) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4902/45310140294_2fd65ce99e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2c2Uj8q)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2c2Uj8q) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4897/32163718848_aeec29a407_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R1ct3G)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/R1ct3G) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

My last shot is of the assembly in the jig, the highlighting of the MG supports looks great in shadow.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4850/46034404671_69609c9e16_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d8UmGg)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2d8UmGg) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Build is still moving forward, I'll have the seat sorted out soon.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: howlindawg on November 25, 2018, 07:12:01 PM: Unlucky with the seat.
The belts look salvageable, no?

Fuel tank area looks excellent!
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 25, 2018, 11:09:08 PM: Thanks Dawg, the lap belt is pretty gummed up with SG, so no. Even if I could start over I hate working with PE seatbelts.
Probably should have test fit more and even glued the unpainted belts to an unpainted seat, then paint all as one assembly. Thats my normal process.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Gisbod on November 26, 2018, 03:13:32 AM: Shame Ryan,

Despite that it really looks great. I love the controlled pin wash.

Guy
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 26, 2018, 03:18:07 AM: Ehh, it happens...nothing time and money can’t fix.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ssasho0 on November 26, 2018, 06:51:42 PM: HGW belts >> PE belts, good choice and this is relatively easy to repair. The HGW belts are mandatory for my builds nowadays, they are so much better looking then the PE things.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 26, 2018, 09:28:55 PM: Thanks Ssasho0, should have used the HGW belts in the first place.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on November 27, 2018, 11:04:33 AM: Question on the HGW set, it just arrived....

Does one typical paint the buckles after assembly?

Follow up question, can you use a blackening agent on PE parts?

Thanks
Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ssasho0 on November 27, 2018, 09:15:31 PM: Quote from: Ryan on November 27, 2018, 11:04:33 AM
Question on the HGW set, it just arrived....

Does one typical paint the buckles after assembly?

Follow up question, can you use a blackening agent on PE parts?

Thanks
Ryan
Blackening agent: just try it, I think you can use it.
painting: I paint them before assembly and then just touch ups afterwards if needed, but that just me.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on December 03, 2018, 12:42:25 PM: The build continues with the repair of self inflicted damage of the seat and backer. First up was a the fix of the right hand side seat support opening.
A punched disk was glued over the shaved down spot of the buggered original. The disk was drilled out to match the left one.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4918/32280714928_30a3422999_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Rbx6Uu)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/Rbx6Uu) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

After primer it looked like it never happened. :)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4808/44335002510_87732acd79_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2axJtD1)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2axJtD1) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Last step was to repair, strip, and sand down the seat. New seat bracket rods were also created from (2) different diameter plastic rods, built long for trimming.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4887/46101500262_c7fc6a1735_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2deQeSN)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2deQeSN) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on December 03, 2018, 11:51:01 PM: Your repair looks fantastic. Looks as though you are back on track now!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on December 04, 2018, 01:43:44 AM: Yes thanks, just enough to keep me in practice fixing things!

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: lcarroll on December 04, 2018, 02:17:10 AM: Nice recovery Ryan, and hopefully smooth sailing from here on. Great Build and Log, I'm enjoying following your progress.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on December 04, 2018, 02:54:33 AM: Good to hear Lance, glad someone is enjoying the ride.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Gisbod on December 04, 2018, 09:59:41 PM: Just as an after thought Ryan,

To save scraping out the paint, I’ve found it works well to mask the ‘channels’ with a thin tape (@2mm), the ones I use for rib tapes. Much quicker, cleaner and effective. Just a thought for future builds!

I’m going to try to copy your ‘wet’ wood grain technique on my 1/48 SE5a, although it’s so much smaller with many protruding parts it may be tricky.

Can’t wait to see more updates.

Guy
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on December 04, 2018, 11:29:07 PM: Thanks for checking in Guy, you are correct about the tape, I was just impatient! :)

Play around with the wet technique, I should prob post a step by step on how to do it.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on December 19, 2018, 10:53:12 PM: I'm still in the fight with this one. :D

After a brief rest period to cool off and fix my mistakes I have assembled the seat module and its ready for belts. Since I had to repaint the seat I tried a little shading to give a leather effect.
Not sure If I was successful but the dark edges around the seat was the result. I still need to pick out the areas of the seat frame in grey green.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4905/45652289154_4bef9b9d5e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cy8V4G)Ready for Belts (https://flic.kr/p/2cy8V4G) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4848/45652289124_348d41918a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cy8V4b)Ready for Belts (https://flic.kr/p/2cy8V4b) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

next update will be huge...wrapping up the interior.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on December 20, 2018, 09:09:15 AM: All of the repairs look perfect as I said. The seat is excellent. Lookin forward to the interior wrap up!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on December 21, 2018, 01:09:32 AM: Thanks for checking in RAGIII.

I have some time off for the holidays so look to close it up soon.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 03, 2019, 09:45:19 AM: I finally got around to fitting the seat belts, the HGW belts are time consuming but worth it! After painting the buckles on fret, the belts were removed and installed....it was much easier to do this while they are still attached to the fret. I found it helpful to trim the ends of the belts before threading them in; medium weight super glue was used to secure. Once all the belts were finished the clasp ends were installed by first taping the belts down to the cutting mat and then super gluing the buckle in place. I went easy on the wash for the belts, I didn't want them too dirty. In the end I'm happy with the look, although the drape could be a little better. On to the pics!

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7845/46049527575_397626c0b1_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2daeScZ)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2daeScZ) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7893/46049527585_c52e309608_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2daeSda)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2daeSda) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7800/46963312291_0d8689bb7f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2exZfyT)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2exZfyT) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7867/46049527555_2cf41252b2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2daeScD)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2daeScD) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7904/46963312251_2094532287_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2exZfyc)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2exZfyc) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7927/46963312261_c44c355ac9_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2exZfyn)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2exZfyn) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 04, 2019, 11:19:31 PM: I also wanted to mention the belts are embossed with stitching, so take care in keeping the good side up on multiple belt assembly. I did not realize this at first and had my folds the wrong way on one of the lap belts. Also it appears the Baron has put on weight as the belts are too long in my opinion, my own fault as you can control your belt length when you build them. I did not realize this until the very end, but oh well the set is belted and I can move on. :-[

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on February 05, 2019, 12:28:45 AM: Your belts look excellent. Good to see you back at this one!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 05, 2019, 01:48:35 AM: Thanks RAG, yes I pop in and out of rotation with kits, but i'm back on this one right now.

Detail painting the interior bits and will have shots soon.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Gisbod on February 05, 2019, 03:40:18 AM: Cracking Ryan,

The belts look great...

Guy
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 05, 2019, 05:49:57 AM: Hey Guy, thanks a bunch.

The belts are a neat addition, and I screwed up the PE ones anyway....so was forced into them.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: aliluke on February 05, 2019, 03:38:48 PM: Those belts look great. I just tried a set on an Fokker EIV build (no log yet) but made a bit of hash of it...next time will be better and your cautions are noted.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: gbrivio on February 05, 2019, 03:58:55 PM: Good to see rapair was perfect and the replacement seat belts look gorgeous.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 06, 2019, 01:32:35 AM: Thank you gentlemen.

I would like to figure out how to bring out the stitching more without over washing the belts.

The wash you use is important too, if you go too dark at first pass, its a bear to walk back...so go light or as I did test on the excess material supplied by HGW.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: pepperman42 on February 07, 2019, 12:10:39 AM: Great updates.

Steve
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: jeroen_R90S on February 07, 2019, 05:58:09 AM: Nice to see more work done on this one :) I've been wanting to try these belts as well, neat little tip threading while still on the fret! Sometimes things are so obvious I tend to look for the more difficult solution! ;D
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 07, 2019, 06:38:53 AM: Thanks Jeroen, yes back on this one, will have some nice detail work up soon.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 11, 2019, 11:05:17 PM: Hardly a proper post, but proof I did something this weekend... :-\

Work has started finishing the various cockpit bits. The brass bits are Alclad brass, the other instruments were created by first spraying Tamiya rubber and then dry brushing silver enamel followed by a another dry brush of Testors metalizer to brighten them a bit. The metal flakes from the dry brush are visible in the black faces of the dials, I didn't bother blackening them up as the decals will cover.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7923/47054374901_7b7f23dc34_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eG2YiT)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2eG2YiT) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: lcarroll on February 11, 2019, 11:21:30 PM: Very nice clean work so far Ryan. I am at more or less the same stage on mine and my belts proved a real challenge to mount, I must have broken those fiddly little frame longerons about half a dozen times!
Are you going to assemble the frame and engine bearers attached to the fuselage half or pre-assemble it outside? I'm concerned about mating the left and right fuselage halves if the latter method is used.......? Looking really great thus far.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 12, 2019, 01:31:00 AM: Thanks Lance, the front frames and engine bearers are actually glued to the left side of the fuselage, after careful dry fitting I found this could be done.
I think I wanted to get the loose assembly off my desk and into the model. Be careful though the rest of the assemblies have to mount per kit instructions.

The belts are quite a challenge and of course I really buggered mine and went with HGW.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4842/32074935928_16e72a63e8_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QSmqYG)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/QSmqYG) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: lcarroll on February 12, 2019, 04:13:03 AM: Thanks Ryan, now that you've successfully tested the water I'll give it a try! :P
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RUREDI on February 12, 2019, 07:56:55 PM: Great stuff. Love watching your techniques and progress. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 12, 2019, 11:01:12 PM: Thanks Rick, sometimes the techniques are trial and error (mostly error at times)! ;D

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: GAJouette on February 13, 2019, 01:15:23 AM: Ryan,
Outstanding progress my friend. I'm impressed with your wood painting skills for her interior. Keep up the high levels of excellence and the best of luck to you in the GB.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Juan on February 13, 2019, 02:49:24 AM: That looks fantastic Ryan.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 13, 2019, 03:28:21 AM: Many thanks Juan and Gregory, much appreciated.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: lone modeller on February 13, 2019, 07:06:45 AM: Superb udates Ryan. As per usual your modelling skills are of the highestt order.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on February 13, 2019, 09:12:55 AM: Really Looking excellent! Next update soon I hope 8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 13, 2019, 10:51:11 PM: Small update last evening.

Started detail painting the grey green clips and fixtures inside the fuselage. I've been doing a fair amount of brush painting on this model, and need to get back to masking and spraying.
The bracket above the black instrument was a bit troublesome to hand paint and detail.....would have been far easier to mask and paint at an earlier stage. Speaking of the black instrument I decided to attach now before the decal in case I had to use the face of the part to press into the tight fitting slot. The bolt heads were painted as well as the brass connector at the top of it.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7888/47078602231_9be35e5d0b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eJb9ft)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2eJb9ft) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7911/46165279805_dc6147393c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dkt8j6)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2dkt8j6) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 18, 2019, 07:34:26 AM: Not a giant leap forward but I got a lot of detail painting and decals applied. Decals are fresh, so will need to clear coat once dry.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7918/46211088825_d82d31c740_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dpvUJM)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2dpvUJM) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7828/32185673107_3d0357f163_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R38Zhp)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/R38Zhp) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7896/33252412578_466b3fa32f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SEpiLf)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/SEpiLf) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7884/33252412588_0515cde9db_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SEpiLq)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/SEpiLq) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on February 18, 2019, 10:18:53 AM: The fuel selector panel and instrument look great! Looking forward to the next update!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Borsos on February 18, 2019, 04:08:51 PM: A very nice cockpit. Everything is perfectly painted and finished.
Andreas
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 18, 2019, 11:05:04 PM: Thanks guys, the decals really set the parts off.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: pepperman42 on February 19, 2019, 12:32:00 AM: This is very nice clean work!! Great accenting

Steve
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: gbrivio on February 19, 2019, 01:36:22 AM: Great cockpit, with nice details.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: lone modeller on February 19, 2019, 06:56:33 AM: This is really superb Ryan. I have just looked in at Lance's build of the same model and I do not wish to compare, merely contrast, as both are wonderful models. It is interesting to look at how different modellers aprroach their subjects in very different ways and achieve remarkable results.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 19, 2019, 08:07:27 AM: Very kind Stephen, thanks.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 20, 2019, 12:31:48 PM: This evenings update installs the compass and fuel panel, once this dries I can place the fuel tank bulkhead and then the joystick and rudder assembly.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7918/47151270811_0570455ac4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eQAA62)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2eQAA62) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7819/47151270401_cbda17ce1d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eQAzXX)Red Baron (https://flic.kr/p/2eQAzXX) by The 3rd Placer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51690681@N03/), on Flickr

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: RAGIII on February 20, 2019, 12:57:51 PM: Gorgeous! Enough said!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: aliluke on February 20, 2019, 07:10:25 PM: Beautifully clean work. Heading towards a brilliant rendition. I'm using your tips - thank you!

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 21, 2019, 04:54:08 AM: Thanks Gents, I'm glad folks are liking the show.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: aliluke on February 23, 2019, 05:53:27 AM: Hmmm. Just tryed that panel liner by Tamiya. That was over well dried and gloss sealed oils and it dissolved the underlying paint in some patches. Perhaps where I had missed a bit of sealing of the oils? I will use with more caution from now on and triple seal before applying.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 23, 2019, 06:16:39 AM: What was base coat, then what clear?

My method was this:

1. Tamiya Primer
2. Vajello Wood Color
3. Wood Streaking with oils.
4. Clear coat consisting of Tamiya Clear Yellow and Orange.

I'm sorry you are having trouble, I will say the Tam panel liner is a a bit strong...meaning against an oderless thinner/ oil wash.

Maybe I should you a tutorial.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 23, 2019, 06:17:56 AM: Don't get discouraged we will figure it out!

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: UFAG on February 25, 2019, 03:08:00 PM: Sublime build..!!
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on February 25, 2019, 11:02:41 PM: Thanks, but nothing compared to your scratch building skills.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: AlbertD on April 07, 2019, 02:35:41 PM: Thanks you for your inspirational build log Ryan. Your work is superb.
Title: Re: 1/32 WNW Albatros D.V Richthofen
Post by: Ryan on April 08, 2019, 10:10:23 PM: Much appreciated Albert, welcome to the forum.

Ryan