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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: macsporran on September 29, 2018, 09:22:57 PM
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The box art for both new Halberstadts looks really good and the options provided are varied and colourful. I don't think there is much difference though between early and late production examples and I'm sure one of these will be sufficient to represent the type in my collection.
Wish they had taken the opportunity to maybe offer a Cl IV instead of a second Cl II.
Sandy
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Does anyone know the price for the kit, the picture is a little bit blurry, but looks like 23,500 Yen (maybe its my old eyes).
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I hope it's more on the 13.500 Yen-side..!
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I am a little deeper in that airplane and I am quite sure that the main differences between early and late boxings will be the markings and the finish of the wings. Like Polish researchers found out not too long ago, early Cl. IIs had their upper wing surfaces covered in light Tarnstoff (which is normally used for the lower sides) and the lower sides of the wings were CDL. Remember e. g. the early and late DFW C. V, there is no fundamental difference neither.
Andreas
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Does anyone know the price for the kit, the picture is a little bit blurry, but looks like 23,500 Yen (maybe its my old eyes).
The price tag definitely says 23,500 Yen, or about $207 US.
That's a lot of money even by WNW standards for a standard single engine, 2 seat German observation aircraft.
If that is the price they launch at, it will mark a considerable hike in price!
Like a $100 (US) hike in price.
For that reason, I am thinking that price is wrong.
I don't know. We'll find out when the kit is released.
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The retail prices for WNW kits in Japanese hobby stores are generally around 30% higher than ordering from NZ so this price probably isnt indicitive. Looks inflated even for Tokyo though.
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I'm on for one of these at least but hope the price is more in line with their other two seaters. I'm liking the early version but am also tempted by the late...will await more details from WNW.
I've got a lot to build but that makes me happy! Am I crazy? Maybe. ::)
A
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I'm on for one of these at least but hope the price is more in line with their other two seaters. I'm liking the early version but am also tempted by the late...will await more details from WNW.
I've got a lot to build but that makes me happy! Am I crazy? Maybe. ::)
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You are not in this alone....
Well, yes let’s keep fingers crossed regarding the price; especially as the Halberstadt, although being a twoseater, was not a large aircraft, but more the size of an Albatros D fighter than e. g. a DFW.
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I asked Wingnuts for clarification on the likely price of the two Halberstadts and the official answer is the kits price will be pretty much in line with Wingnuts' other two seaters.
So somewhere between $US119 and $US 129 seems like the likely price.
Also Wingnuts has now uploaded more images and colour profiles of the kits on their website.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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I hope (but don't expect) they do something with the decals, in line with what Mirage Hobby did with their 1/48 releases.
They did a wonderfull thing recreating both a fantastic lozenge as well as that very special overpainted lozenge for the fuselage.
If not, maybe the afermarket people will do something with this as painting it myself will surely be recipy for disaster....
If not, maybe a 'plain' WnW version next to my Mirage Hobby CL.IV.
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I agree - some great schemes but bloody hard to paint and it doesn't look like they are offering lozenge decals for the body. Maybe (hopefully) they are still in development...
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the spues are online incredible casting on the tailplane hinge actuator!
the scrumble camouflage on the fuselage is not provided as a decal: CHALLENGING!
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The "scrumble" camouflage is not that difficult at all. Do a Google search for Halberstadt CL.II profiles. The one by Dave Douglass is the best in my opinion.
The most important tool you will need is an old chisel shaped brush that has seen better days. The chisel brush is flat and square in shape, some have short bristles and others are longer. The short one is the size most preferable. The bristles on an older brush are starting to bend and curl a bit, perfect for dry brushing. A new brush can be used if an old one is not available, just remember the technique described below will be tough on the shape of the brush.
Stippling is the technique I use to apply the camouflage colors. It is similar to dry-brushing accept in one critical way. Instead of drawing the brush across the surface as in painting, you jab the brush into the surface to leave dots and small dashes. It's important to make sure that the majority of paint is wiped off the brush. Paint a test fuselage or scrap sheet in a natural wood color of your preference. Include the amount of grain you wish to portray. You will need to pick the camouflage colors. I use lilac, a medium blue and a green, a light and darker green can be used. Apply the camouflage colors in different locations with minor overlapping using the stippling technique. Throughout the process, the fuselage color should still be visible to some degree. Not to worry if it becomes completely covered in some places, you can stipple the fuselage color on top of the camouflage if that happens.
Give that a shot and see how it turns out.
Good luck
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Now the sprue shots are posted on the WNW website we can see that the plastic parts for both kits are identical apart from sprue F in one kit and sprue G in the other. Sprue F only contains a very few parts and, while welcoming the releases wholeheartedly, they could maybe have just included both sprues in one kit. The second decal sheet could have been available as a separate option.
Don't mean to look a gift (?) horse in the mouth, but I still wish we'd been offered a Cl IV as the second release.
I'll still buy one, maybe two!
S
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They have certainly upped their game on the lozenge fabric decals!
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Oh, I like the fact, that WNW is doing a Halberstadt Cl.II, even if I'm doing on,y 1/48. But I like to see the WNW manuals etc for colors and information to do my models as best as possible.
And a Cl.II is part of my pile of kits ;)
Cheers,
Frank
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They have certainly upped their game on the lozenge fabric decals!
Yes, I noticed that, it seems the cartoon like lozenge has taken on a much more realistic hue? That’s great news for us. Perhaps less so for the aftermarket companies...
Guy
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Now the sprue shots are posted on the WNW website we can see that the plastic parts for both kits are identical apart from sprue F in one kit and sprue G in the other. Sprue F only contains a very few parts and, while welcoming the releases wholeheartedly, they could maybe have just included both sprues in one kit. The second decal sheet could have been available as a separate option.
Don't mean to look a gift (?) horse in the mouth, but I still wish we'd been offered a Cl IV as the second release.
I'll still buy one, maybe two!
S
There are actually quite a few different parts, at least, a lot more than the differences between the Albatros D.V and D.Va... The choice is sometimes a bit strange, though, for example with the DFW C.V Late you get only the late sprue, but if you buy the mid-production version you get both the mid, and late sprue as well (for the floor and control stick).
I do guess you've got to love building Mercedes D.III engines when building German aircraft.... ;D I have to choose between this one and the Copper State Nieuport for my birthday, so I'll let my wife pick and see what she comes up with. :) (when the kids help, probably the Nieuport with the skeleton on it!)
And, kind if hard to figure out from the pictures on the WNW site, did these Halberstadt's have painted lozenges on the top wing center section like the Hannover, or was it a plain colour? I can't see a lozenge decal on the sheet pictures for that, so I assume it wasn't lozenge like the Pfalz D.IIIa?
As for the stippled finish, there are some hints and tips on the AEG G.IV Early, that sometimes apparently also sported this finish with a piece of sponge. Although you do get hexagon decals with that kit for the fuselage, too...
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/v3ED049C7/www/products/model_kitsets/32034/hints_and_tips/32034%20AEG%20G.IV%20Early%20hexagon%20camouflage%20scumble%20finish%20hints%20&%20tips.jpg)
Jeroen
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Hannant's in the UK have it up on pre-oreder (expected January 2019) at £128 ($168).
Mike
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Hannant's in the UK have it up on pre-oreder (expected January 2019) at £128 ($168).
Mike
If that's the price, I will not buy a Halberstadt, but stay with WnW's single-seaters. And for the future I hope that Copper State Models will give us more interesting kits like the Nieuport - and charge more eastern-european standard-prices and not what they could charge for the quality they are delivering..! (That is, prices the like of Wingnut Wings..) 🙂 :)
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Based on the price listed by HLJ and the price of their Junkers D.I, you can extrapolate a price of about US$129. Will have to wait for Wingnut Wings to finally put us out of our guessing game.
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Wingnuts have already indicated on this forum the likely price of their Halberstadts.
I asked Wingnuts for clarification on the likely price of the two Halberstadts and the official answer on October 1 was the kits' price will be pretty much in line with Wingnuts' other two seaters.
So somewhere between $US119 and $US 129 seems like the likely price.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia