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Title: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Edgar on September 29, 2018, 05:21:35 AM
Dear CSM friends, you all been waiting for Nieuport that we were doing and today we are starting to take pre-orders, this is a limited offer.
We believe that first Nieuports will be ready for dispatch in November.

Within this offer, you are getting a special price and our big thank you for your support and trust in what we do!
Price for each kit is the same and it`s
56 EUR (only during pre-order period) excluding VAT (will be added for EU clients)
62 EUR (Regular price) excluding VAT (will be added for EU clients)

(https://image.ibb.co/bwsWgp/2018_09_28_22_24_19.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

http://www.copperstatemodels.com/main/productsCS/1/2
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Manni on September 29, 2018, 06:52:39 AM
Just ordered both ....and it feels good.
Manni
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Gene K on September 29, 2018, 09:02:53 AM
Edgar,

When I try to order one of each, the price of 67.76 EUR each rings up. How do I get the 56 EUR price?

Thanks,

Gene K


Price for each kit is the same and it`s
56 EUR (only during pre-order period) excluding VAT (will be added for EU clients)

Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: hiddeous1973 on September 29, 2018, 04:00:32 PM
looking forward to these, order has been send!!

many thanks, Hidde
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Edo on September 29, 2018, 04:23:41 PM
hey Gene!
 it is 56 excludin VAT, 67 included
if you procede to the ordering page it is all well explained
ciao
edo
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Gene K on September 30, 2018, 03:03:49 AM
Thanks Edo -- I needed to go one step further. Ordered early model, and will wait until Sprue Brothers in US gets the other (plus figures). Good holidays coming.

Gene K
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Juan on September 30, 2018, 05:41:12 AM
Got one of each.  Will wait for Sprue Brothers for other boxings/figures (hopefully have them for their "Black Friday" sale).
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Jeff K on September 30, 2018, 11:59:34 AM
gearing up to order some French Nieuports.

for Russian and English subjects i'll wait for those releases.

EDGAR: any word on what kites will be represented by the Melius Manu aftermarket markings? That will affect how many French ships i want.

also, small detail: the Copper State site seems to only accept .com addresses as valid emails. this isn't great because i have to use an email that i check about once every 6 months to register. not a big deal for me but could be, for people with only one email address....
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Edo on September 30, 2018, 03:28:18 PM
You are welcome, Gene!
placed my order for the early type, too  ;D
ciao
edo
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Edgar on September 30, 2018, 06:47:34 PM
gearing up to order some French Nieuports.

for Russian and English subjects i'll wait for those releases.

EDGAR: any word on what kites will be represented by the Melius Manu aftermarket markings? That will affect how many French ships i want.

also, small detail: the Copper State site seems to only accept .com addresses as valid emails. this isn't great because i have to use an email that i check about once every 6 months to register. not a big deal for me but could be, for people with only one email address....
Hey Jeff
please PM me your needed email and shipping address and I will register an account for you, should be ok
About additional decals, they are in development, I can say that it should be around 20 markings for French planes and several Italians for now
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: RAGIII on October 02, 2018, 05:48:02 AM
Ok Edgar I need your help. I signed up for your site, received the confirmation letter and now I am being told my password is incorrect. OK, No big deal click on forgot my password. You have got to be kidding, Calligraphy lettering for proof you are not a robot! I can't make out anything!!!@
RAGIII

PS:

After 7 or 8 tries finally got the right answer but No E Mail to change my password. Help Me please  ;D I guess I am just too computer illiterate  :( PM or E Mail
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 02, 2018, 06:03:49 AM
Hi Edgar,

Just ordered mine too !

Ed
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Ryan on October 02, 2018, 08:49:24 AM
How is a paypal order placed?

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: rhwinter on October 02, 2018, 04:07:08 PM
How long/ up to when can we place prorders?
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Edgar on October 02, 2018, 04:21:48 PM
Till the limited stock last but before November or so
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Jorgo on October 02, 2018, 05:21:29 PM
Hi Edgar!
Congratulations on these gems! I ordered both of them.

Highest regards
Jörg
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Edgar on October 02, 2018, 05:45:13 PM
Greetings Jorg, guys, thank you for your support
We worked hard to prepare both versions, even I before this project had no idea about NIe17 differences
For those who have only general info about Nieuport XVII here is a list of differences, just in case

 
1. Late series received reinforced leading edge with metal mini ribs for both wings, but the early version did not had this feature
2. Early series Nieuport XVII had experimental Alkan synchronized lewis Mg, for Late series Vickers became the main armament after Vickers MG production was set up in France and some pilots still used unsynchronized Lewis over the top wing
3. Early Nieuport still carried Nieuport XVI windshield, as Late Nie had its own flat windscreen
4. Late series were painted in a new Aluminum powder paint, but earlier had good old camo in 2 colours (some experts are sure it`s 4 colours, hard to say who is right or wrong)
5. An early version had square maintenance hatch on the starboard side, but Late ones received hatched on both sides with an egg like shape
6. Top wing cutout on the early version, but late Nieuport did not had this feature in most of the cases
7. The oil tank was installed in the cockpit, together with the fuel tank on early Nieuports, but for Late Nieuport, oil tank was moved on to the firewall to have a space for Vickers ammo rack
8. Cowlings differs, first it was in one peace, but later it was replaced with the two-part cowling
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Gene K on October 02, 2018, 09:19:11 PM
How is a paypal order placed?

Be aware that CSM requires that you pay a 5% (!) "surcharge)" to use Paypal.

Gene K
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Edgar on October 02, 2018, 09:47:31 PM
How is a paypal order placed?

Be aware that CSM requires that you pay a 5% (!) "surcharge)" to use Paypal.

Gene K
Gene, please...
it was an old statement on our website if you made or will order any product from our website you will notice that you pay what is written under the product picture, that is the price only, plus postage, nothing more
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: coyotemagic on October 03, 2018, 12:13:08 AM
How is a paypal order placed?

Be aware that CSM requires that you pay a 5% (!) "surcharge)" to use Paypal.

Gene K
Gene, please...
it was an old statement on our website if you made or will order any product from our website you will notice that you pay what is written under the product picture, that is the price only, plus postage, nothing more

True.  I've never been charged for using Paypal.  That was when Eric owned Copper State and Paypal was fairly new.

Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Ryan on October 03, 2018, 12:30:56 AM
Just pre-ordered mine, thanks Edgar.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Gene K on October 03, 2018, 01:33:25 AM
Quote
... the 5% Papypal surcharge] was an old statement on our website if you made or will order any product from our website you will notice that you pay what is written under the product picture, that is the price only, plus postage, nothing more

Great, thanks!

Gene K
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Edgar on October 03, 2018, 01:43:35 AM


Great, thanks.

But why the implicating "Please"? As a new customer, all I can go by is what is posted on the web site, and I'm glad you corrected it/me.

Gene K

You are right, I will check out the site and will make some corrections, than you)
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: timpivonka on October 03, 2018, 03:12:58 AM
Just pre-ordered both.  I'm so excited, thing I will build the early version 1st.

Thanks again, Edgar

Tim Pivonka
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Ryan on October 03, 2018, 03:32:21 AM
The more we support Edgar with sales the better chances of new releases, well that's the way I see it anyway.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Black Max 72 on October 03, 2018, 12:35:05 PM
Just ordered the Late version. I am so looking forward to this kit ;D Wishing you great success with this kit Edgar and I am hyped as to what you guys will do next.

Thank you for pointing out the differences between the Early and Late models. Like you I had little idea of the differences. I was aware that steps were taken to strengthen the lower wings as it was a major weakness in the design but was unaware of the multitude of other changes as well. One curious thing that I just thought of though if anyone here on the forum can educate me, Did the Russian Dux built Nieuports follow these changes? I only mention this because the Russians seem to have kept the 'greenhouse' centre-section top wing well into production. I was researching the rather unique Russian top wing mounting of un-synchronized Hotchkiss machine guns on some of their Nie17s. These Nieuports seem to have kept the 'greenhouse' wing with what looks like a tube or bag for the spent shells passing through the top wing down into the cockpit.

Apologies if you have answered this question already Edgar, but are you planning a Royal Flying Corps release as well as the Russian/Italian that you mentioned?

Dave Rickard
Rockhampton QLD
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Edgar on October 03, 2018, 02:55:57 PM
Will tell later about Russian built Nieuport
As for other "boxes" RFC is in our plans for sure, some parts are needed for the cockpit, Nie Foster mount e.t.c
Russian, as well, but it could be 2019 or later, not yet for sure about it
Italians will be released as several decals sets, one marking per set) to save your money a bit)
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Umlaufmotor on October 03, 2018, 11:28:55 PM
Ordered the late version.
I am looking forward to November.
The Nieuport will fit perfectly with my Morane Saulnier "N" Bullet.

Many thanks to Edgar (Copper State Models) for making available that nice little bird in scale 1/32!

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Eric Armstrong on October 06, 2018, 04:07:24 AM
Here's a pretty juicy website for Russian Nieuport stuff...all other IRAS aircraft as well...   https://wio.ru/ww1a.htm

I would avoid this website, everyone.  My virus control on my computer popped up a warning when I attempted to go to the site.  Beware.
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Doug Mace on October 06, 2018, 04:24:48 AM
Oh no...so sorry, Eric...Ok, try www.wio.ru/ww1a.htm ...it's worth it.
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: timpivonka on October 09, 2018, 01:45:02 AM
Edgar:  How are pre-sale orders going?  Hope enough to justify producing the kit, and maybe doing more.
Best of luck.
Tim P.
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Edgar on October 09, 2018, 05:59:27 AM
Nieuports are on pre-orders and doing pretty good, I hope it will meet the modelers' expectations in terms of quality)We did it in the best way we could
thank you
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: IvotB on October 09, 2018, 06:02:18 AM
Pre-ordered one last week. I guess it must be the late version as they became operational in 1918 with the LVA.

regards,
Ivo
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Ron@redondo on October 09, 2018, 07:00:59 AM
I have tried to order. Order is not going through to PayPal
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Ryan on October 09, 2018, 07:15:23 AM
I had this problem too, if I remember correctly you have to enter your country again and it will take to to the payment page. (also agree to terms etc, again if I remember correctly)

It does work though.
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Ron@redondo on October 09, 2018, 12:22:15 PM
Thanks Ryan. Tried logging into new account on CSM got long address tried to copy for confirmation. Got nowhere. Guess I will wait until Hannants or one of the vendors here in the U.S. gets hold of them.
Maybe I can go ahead and pre order one of WNW new Halberstadt's
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Edgar on October 09, 2018, 03:02:59 PM
Guys, please, write me an email about what you want to order and we will prepare an invoice for you
edgar.liepinsh (at) copperstatemodels.com
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: kornbeef on October 10, 2018, 05:03:08 PM
My wife managed to order the early for me so it must be possible.  I really can't wait to get my hands on it. Chose the early purely for the markings in the end and I'm sure a late will follow.

Keith
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: RAGIII on October 11, 2018, 04:38:24 AM
Well with Edgars Help, THANKS, I have managed to pre order the early version. As finances allow I will certainly get an early and perhaps another late!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Ryan on October 11, 2018, 05:15:34 AM
It's interesting more of the late versions are selling, I would have thought the early camo versions would sell more.

I picked up both, that early one with the rooster on the side must be built!

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Jeff K on October 12, 2018, 01:06:04 PM
Preordered one of each, used Paypal, no problem.

The early will likely be assigned to Pere Dorme, with kit markings.

The late will most likely be assigned to Maurice Boyau, even if i have to make the snake on the side myself (that'll be an adventure). Hopefully he'll be in the additional markings sets. I'll get one for Nungesser in the future, assuming this isn't the entire run.

I'll also do two British Nieuports (Fullard and Bishop).

I'd like to do two Italian jobs (Fulco Ruffo di Calabria and Francesco Ferrari i mean Baracca).

maybe more, if Copper State keep it in production long enough for me to do all this shopping...
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Ron@redondo on October 13, 2018, 06:30:14 AM
Edgar helped me out. Sent me a invoice and I was able to send a payment through PayPal. Thanks Edgar. Looking forward to build these two kits.
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Edgar on November 24, 2018, 06:34:00 AM
We have some great news for you, folks. Finally, all the pre-ordered Nieuports has been sent like we promised (November). We are sorry to keep all our clients waiting for their orders, that were made in November, they had been sent today as well.
This was a bit of a surprise for us, your pre-orders were coming and coming, thank you very much. So it took us more time then we planned. Our company is not that big (Only 3  employees, including company accountant) so it took us a while to prepare it all. Thank you for your support and patience and we hope our models would be a joy to build)
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Borsos on November 24, 2018, 08:26:29 AM
We're hoping and waiting in anticipation  :)
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: RAGIII on November 24, 2018, 09:21:17 AM
We're hoping and waiting in anticipation  :)

Yes We are! I am really looking forward to starting mine. Work Bench is cleared!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: gbrivio on November 24, 2018, 06:58:41 PM
Despite my busy worbench I did not resist and started my one (build log coming asap). I believe quality is comparable to WNW kits and the datailing level is really one of the highest I ever seen in a model aeroplane. Many thanks to CSM, very well done!
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: IvotB on November 26, 2018, 08:01:56 PM
Recieved my Nieuport XVII late last week. It's going to be an LVA version. I may try to change it to a Nieuport XXIII. It seems that the main difference is the engine, but I will try to understand the differences first.

CSM has done a good job. Now I'm just hoping for the release of a Caudron GIV in 1/32 scale. There have been a few of those flying with the LVA as well.


regards,
Ivo
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Manni on November 26, 2018, 08:52:46 PM
Got both on friday. After a short review I was very happy with the instructions and the highly detailed parts. Great job, Edgar!!!!
So now please do A Fokker DrI. This would be a licence to print money.
keep on your great work.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Jeff K on November 28, 2018, 01:01:53 PM
got both of mine today.

exquisitely molded, superbly engineered. even the box is well thought out (i have several WNW kits that show signs of having been sat on by the postman).

every bit as good as a WNW kit. my expectations were high and these kits exceeded my expectations. hope you make a lot of 'em, and print up some French aces markings like you mentioned. i'm also looking forward to the British boxing, and i'll be getting at least two of that.

can't wait to see what you guys are up to next in 1/32. i may be alone in this, but i'm hoping it's *not* a DR.1. i'd prefer something that hasn't been kitted in this scale before, or a SPAD XIII (the Hobbycraft kit is hard to find, i know of one online retailer only who has it in stock).
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: RAGIII on November 28, 2018, 01:29:08 PM
got both of mine today.

exquisitely molded, superbly engineered. even the box is well thought out (i have several WNW kits that show signs of having been sat on by the postman).

every bit as good as a WNW kit. my expectations were high and these kits exceeded my expectations. hope you make a lot of 'em, and print up some French aces markings like you mentioned. i'm also looking forward to the British boxing, and i'll be getting at least two of that.

can't wait to see what you guys are up to next in 1/32. i may be alone in this, but i'm hoping it's *not* a DR.1. i'd prefer something that hasn't been kitted in this scale before, or a SPAD XIII (the Hobbycraft kit is hard to find, i know of one online retailer only who has it in stock).

I am still waiting for my pre ordered kit. On the plus side what I have seen in the way of in the box reviews, and one FB build review I am sure when my kit arrives I will be more than pleased!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 28, 2018, 06:14:57 PM
Got both on friday. After a short review I was very happy with the instructions and the highly detailed parts. Great job, Edgar!!!!
So now please do A Fokker DrI. This would be a licence to print money.
keep on your great work.
Bye,
Manni

+1
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Ron@redondo on November 29, 2018, 12:38:32 PM
Patiently waiting in California.
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Pgtaylorart on November 29, 2018, 04:55:52 PM
Patiently waiting in California.

Me too...
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: miecio52 on November 29, 2018, 07:51:36 PM
I have Early, it's beautiful.
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Alexis on November 29, 2018, 10:18:44 PM
If your in Canada waiting .  It will be months before the backlog is cleared on international shipments well into March next year do the Postal strike ...sucks ...





Terri
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Dekenba1 on November 30, 2018, 07:14:23 AM
Is anybody going to review this kit?

It looks beautifully done from what I've seen of it, but I've not seen much!
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Dave W on November 30, 2018, 11:45:05 AM
Dekenba

A full review of the Early and Late Nieuport kits is scheduled for the Forum, just as soon as we receive the kits from CSM.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Edgar on November 30, 2018, 08:00:01 PM
And it will be sent today)
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Jeff K on December 01, 2018, 01:58:45 AM
a very brief review:

i wept when i saw it.

tears of joy.

when i saw how thin the trailing edges of the wing are.

superb.
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: pepperman42 on December 01, 2018, 08:33:00 AM
Terri,
           I got mine last week here in ON. No delay.

Steve
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Ryan on December 01, 2018, 10:44:37 AM
Still looking for mine, the suspense is killing me.

Ryan
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Alexis on December 01, 2018, 10:53:35 AM
Terri,
           I got mine last week here in ON. No delay.

Steve

Fingers are crossed Steve that it will be here soon . The wait is killing me actual , nothing like the smell of a new kit . Just brightens ones day .


Terri
Title: Re: 1/32 CSM Nieuport XVII PRE-ORDER
Post by: Black Max 72 on December 01, 2018, 01:57:17 PM
Just received my late Nie 17 down here in Australia, I'd say to anyone still waiting on their pre order that it wouldn't be to far away as it usually takes the longest time for any mail coming from Europe to reach us here at the ends of the earth! I have to say I'm incredibly impressed with CSM's product IMHO this kit is every bit as good as WNW's products, definitely looking forward to seeing how it builds. I was very impressed with their strong box, I know that may sound a bit strange but our postal delivery drivers here can be brutal, I've got a WNW Fok DVIIF with a broken strut because something heavy had been dropped on the corner of the box >:( Ever since I've had my mail delivered to a parcel locker, so I was very impressed with CSM's packaging and presentation I will definitely be ordering more of their kits in future.
A big congratulations and thank you to Edgar and his team

Dave Rickard
Rockhampton QLD