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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Dave W on September 26, 2018, 09:16:17 AM
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Wingnut Wings has posted announcements on its website of three new models in development.
No clues as to subjects but they are listed as kits #32043, 32044 and 32062.
The announcement states the new models in development will be announced at the All Japan Model and Hobby Show in Tokyo 28-30 September 2018.
Let the speculation begin!
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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hey thats pretty exciting - hoping these are all new as opposed to reboxes (reboxes are welcome of course but new subjects a real thrill)
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We win again..... ;D
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hey thats pretty exciting - hoping these are all new as opposed to reboxes (reboxes are welcome of course but new subjects a real thrill)
My thought too. But then, my bank account would prefer reboxes since I have most of the original releases. :)
Eric
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so these must be the Dr.1, SPAD XIII, and BF-109E
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............... and their Halberstadt hasn't even rolled off the production line yet. The Wingnut Team is being very busy indeed! Well said Juan, we indeed are the winners!
Cheers, :) :) :)
Lance
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I’m ready!
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I'm thinking Halberstadt Cl. IV, two boxings, long and short fuselage and maybe a Camel Comic.
Cheers,
Bud
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We know the Halberstadt CLII is on the ways. These three are the mystery. I suspect one might be a kit hat has already been issued, re-boxed, maybe a dualist. The caption says "new model in development." Could be a Gotha and a Pup dualist, or, to quote Monty Python, "Something Completely Different." Either way, it's going to be neat, whatever it is. We will find out soon enough.
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"New" means new. Doubt we will see reissues of older OOP kits.
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One of the newbies will be a DH.4, I am sure! Why? Simply because now it‘s time for a DH.4. Or a flock of DH.4s..
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I think the three "new" kits will be a bit boring, may be a dualist box with OOP kits and two reissues with figures, nothing too spectacular. :-\
I hope I'm wrong and they do something Austro-Hungarian or something Italian. ;D
Fingers crossed,
Manni
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A dualist kit number is 3280x
I think the new kits will be:
32043: DH.4 (with various engines: Rolls-Royce Eagle,BHP Puma, etc)
32044: DH.4 (American built)
32062: Pfalz D.III
Cheers,
Spyros
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A dualist kit number is 3280x
I think the new kits will be:
32043: DH.4 (with various engines: Rolls-Royce Eagle,BHP Puma, etc)
32044: DH.4 (American built)
32062: Pfalz D.III
Cheers,
Spyros
You are perfectly right, Spyros! (Except for the Pfalz D.III, of vourse, as WnWdon't doalready elswhrerekitted kits.)
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Looking at their site each box states that it is a new 'model' in development not a new 'kit' (ie reboxing, duellist etc). Does that actually mean what it implies? I hope so.
Now please don't take this as 'crowing' but I wrote this a while back -
Re: Podcast interview with Richard Alexander of Wingnut Wings.
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2018, 03:22:44 AM »
This is how my addled old cells see it
Shizuoka this year - WNW announce new model 'In development' but the Halberstadt, like the Junkers D1 before, is hardly 'in development' as its there in a test shot in all it's early glory. I'd guess that these have been 'In development' for far longer than the inference on either model would have us believe - so, if so - What's really in development I wonder? How long does it take say from the 'let's do this one next' to seeing it actually on a show display as a test shot 'in development'.
Id guess there are two or three, possibly even more, in development in varying stages at one time so if so that could lead to some serious speculation ;D
Like anything else it's an individuals interpretation but knowing how close WNW play their cards to their chest giving away a 'new' aircraft design as "Something with an Aussie flavour by the end of the year" is, I fear, unlikely to be a completely 'new' design
No, I'll plumb for the easy option with the Xmas release to be said Halberstadt and hopefully an RE8 from 3 Squadron to add to the re-issue list - now that will be a good (if expensive) Xmas, Then again I could, and probably am, well and truly off track ;D
Tug
Looks like for once I wasn't too far off the mark - if so that's three new subjects - as Dave says - let the speculation begin. One thing's for sure - as previously predicted it's going to be one very expensive Christmas with the CSM Nieuport on the horizon too - ah get those wallets ready ;D
Regards - Tug
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Let me dream... Friedrichshafen FF33, Albatros D.III Oeffag and Hansa Brandenburg B.I. All three subjects important for the beginning of Polish aviation in 1918-1920.
As for the Comic Camel, I think that the slot of 32075 is reserved for it, if it ever comes.
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I think Wingnuts originally planned to issue a Pfalz D.III (with common molds with D.IIIa)
(http://www.mchost.gr/thumb/4173cb38f0/29757.jpg) (http://www.mchost.gr/v/29757)
Cheers,
Spyros
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Just paid off the Richthofen, Hawker, Immelman, and Collishaw releases....my Paypal stands ready to serve once more!
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I'll toss in some dreams as well ...Handley Page 0/400 and Avro 504.
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So FOUR new kits are forthcoming from WnW as well as Edgar's Nieuport, (which I will need to grab at least two of, probably three)….. I'm in trouble, serious trouble....I can barely make rent as it is and now this flood of highly likely irresistibles?!? Anybody need any house painting done?.....I ain't retired yet.
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Hah! Speculation! I have never been able to predict a WNW release, but I'm truly grateful for every release so far... Just, like everyone else (I'm pretty sure) I wish I had the Time/Money/Space/Enthusiasm/Time to do them all justice! But this time I get no less than three guesses... OK... Bristol Scout - boxing with C and D alternatives... Sopwith 1 and a 1/2 Strutter, French and UK, and Halberstadt DII... Actually, anything would make me happy....
Happy Days!
Marc
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I could post up my usual 3 or 4 kits I'm hoping for, but since it's such a short wait I'll just sit and wait what happens! :)
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Feels like a couple of days before Christmas. Life is good as we anticipate new releases from WNW and CSM.
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I wasn't going to join the ranks of the dreamers this time but since it's free ......... a Comic Camel and/or BE.2 would start the New Year off very nicely!
Cheers,
Lance
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These are in Development Models so could be quite a while before we actually see them. No need to worry about the wallet...yet ;D So that being said, Strutter, BE2, AWFK8.
RAGIII
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yeah I would be surprised if these are to be released soon - like maybe end of 2019. For this year I expect the rest of the reboxes with the pilot figure, maybe the Halb for Christmas.
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The WNW Halberstadt and the CSM Nieuport are more than I would have wished for Christmas so I am happy and wait patiently. I have no idea what comes next from WNW, but the above mentioned Halberstadt D type, Be 2 and Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter would be very welcome -- whenever they will be ready for purchase.
Andreas
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Looking at their site each box states that it is a new 'model' in development not a new 'kit' (ie reboxing, duellist etc). Does that actually mean what it implies? I hope so.
Now please don't take this as 'crowing' but I wrote this a while back -
Re: Podcast interview with Richard Alexander of Wingnut Wings.
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2018, 03:22:44 AM »
This is how my addled old cells see it
Shizuoka this year - WNW announce new model 'In development' but the Halberstadt, like the Junkers D1 before, is hardly 'in development' as its there in a test shot in all it's early glory. I'd guess that these have been 'In development' for far longer than the inference on either model would have us believe - so, if so - What's really in development I wonder? How long does it take say from the 'let's do this one next' to seeing it actually on a show display as a test shot 'in development'.
Id guess there are two or three, possibly even more, in development in varying stages at one time so if so that could lead to some serious speculation ;D
Like anything else it's an individuals interpretation but knowing how close WNW play their cards to their chest giving away a 'new' aircraft design as "Something with an Aussie flavour by the end of the year" is, I fear, unlikely to be a completely 'new' design
No, I'll plumb for the easy option with the Xmas release to be said Halberstadt and hopefully an RE8 from 3 Squadron to add to the re-issue list - now that will be a good (if expensive) Xmas, Then again I could, and probably am, well and truly off track ;D
Tug
Looks like for once I wasn't too far off the mark - if so that's three new subjects - as Dave says - let the speculation begin. One thing's for sure - as previously predicted it's going to be one very expensive Christmas with the CSM Nieuport on the horizon too - ah get those wallets ready ;D
Regards - Tug
If one of the 'new' kits is one with an 'Australian' flavour as Richard Alexander is quoted as saying in the podcast it kind of limits the field doesn't it? Even if it's a reissue we could probably narrow it down if we exclude Aussies that flew with British squadrons and focus on AFC squadrons. They could reissue the SE5a kit as 2 Sqn and 6 Sqn AFC flew the type but they run into the problem of not having the Viper powered option unless they just provide decals for the Roden kit like they did with the recent Richthofen Albatros DV. Along those lines a crazy long shot speculation could be a Viper SE5a release, though not very likely, WNW has already stated that they aren't going to step on Roden's toes anymore than they already have with that one, therefore a Hisso only SE5a reissue is going to have limited options unless they are going for one of the new Aces reissues for Stan Dallas's Camo 40 Sqn bird with a Dallas figure (ooh yeah! ;D) Then there is another possible Aussie aces reissue of the Sopwith Tripe given that the two highest scoring Aussie aces (Dallas and Little) flew and scored most of their victories on the type (I'm not going anywhere near who was the top scoring out of the two. Both men have fierce proponents. for a long time it was accepted as Bob Little, but current research seems to have Stan Dallas in front) I think this one is unlikely given the recent Ray Collishaw re-release of the tripe.
4 Sqd are mainly known for the Camel and the Snipe. The Camel is still available in a multitude of options so is a weak possibility though the early Snipe would be a reissue, so that is possibly an option. The obvious reissue would be the RE8 with 3 Sqn markings with possibly some 1 Sqn markings as well (I'm pretty sure they also used the type, though not fully equipped) I think this is a strong option as the RE8 seems to be one of the more popular WNW releases, especially given what it goes for of ebay!
Now if we are talking 'new' as in never before released, then it gets interesting! Granted, WNW also has to think about future releases with different decal options, therefore something like the DH5 which was operated by 2 Sqn before it re-equipped with the SE5a might have limited appeal as off the top of my head I can't recall which other allied squadrons operated the type (that being said, it didn't stop WNW releasing the Dolphin which was only equipped 3 frontline squadrons) Then there is the BE2 series (operated by 1 Sqn AFC) though this hardly qualifies for an 'Aussie' flavour when you consider how widespread its use was with all allied squadrons. That then brings us to an interesting type in the Martinsyde G100/102 Elephant which was also used extensively by 1 Sqn. It also had limited Western Front use with RFC Squadrons but had much more longevity with the Aussies in Palestine even after they inherited 111 Sqn RFC's superior Bristol Fighters. That neatly brings me to the one I forgot. The Aussie Biffs of 1 Sqn were definitely among the most uniquely marked Biffs of the war, but given that the Bristol is still available (just?) probably means this re-release is unlikely.
Now if I was a betting man, which I'm not, I think the favourite (like most everybody else) would have to be a re-issue of the RE8 with 3 Sqn markings. A somewhat obvious (if uninspired) choice, though welcomed by a lot I would guess. I would love to see the BE2 series get up and running. A Stan Dallas Camouflaged 40 Squadron Hisso SE5a re-issue would be most welcome (if slightly annoying as that is what I got the original SE5 release for ::)) as would a Tripe with his markings as well. I would love to see WNW come right out of left field with the Martinsyde Elephant, while it wasn't that successful an aircraft, but IMHO, it is one of the more elegant looking aircraft of WWI.
I guess one important factor in what WNW release is research. I vaguely remember reading somewhere that was a primary reason that they haven't done certain types was a lack of information. This probably also pertains to markings as well I imagine.
All this being said, I'm sure I'll find whatever they release interesting.
Dave Rickard
Rockhampton QLD
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for my two pennys worth nieuport 11,austrian albatross,caproni ca3 thank you
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It’s generally something that no one has thought of before!
I just hope they don’t take a year or so to reach the shelves. The Camel took forever :o
Guy
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No need to worry about the wallet...yet ;D So that being said, Strutter, BE2, AWFK8.RAGIII
I think a 1/32 RAGIII would be a best seller! :)
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Blackburn Kangaroo for sure ;)
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Not likely from WNW, but I'd "vote for" a Hanriot HD.1/HD.2, complete with floats. Actually, that would be a great follow on to the Copper State Nieuport 17 ... Edgar.
Gene K
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Not likely from WNW, but I'd "vote for" a Hanriot HD.1/HD.2, complete with floats. Actually, that would be a great follow on to the Copper State Nieuport 17 ... Edgar.
Gene K
I strongly support that idea, Gene! (*HINT, HINT, Edgar..*)
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A Sopwith Salamander is welcome. The others? French planes are welcome also.
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I don't care - all 3 are in wrong scale ;D :D 8)
SCNR,
Frank
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I don't care - all 3 are in wrong scale ;D :D 8)
SCNR,
Frank
Still the wrong scale... You will join in ... everybody does... sooner or later.... Harrrharrrharrrharr!
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Andreas, to build all the 1/48 models in my stash I need to be a cat (because a cat has 7 lives!).
So the probability to switch to 1/32 is very, very low. It is more likely that WNW starts to produce 1/48 kits ;)
Cheers,
Frank
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............... Now if I was a betting man, which I'm not, I think the favourite (like most everybody else) would have to be a re-issue of the RE8 with 3 Sqn markings. A somewhat obvious (if uninspired) choice, though welcomed by a lot I would guess. I would love to see the BE2 series get up and running. A Stan Dallas Camouflaged 40 Squadron Hisso SE5a re-issue would be most welcome (if slightly annoying as that is what I got the original SE5 release for ::)) as would a Tripe with his markings as well. I would love to see WNW come right out of left field with the Martinsyde Elephant, while it wasn't that successful an aircraft, but IMHO, it is one of the more elegant looking aircraft of WWI.
I guess one important factor in what WNW release is research. I vaguely remember reading somewhere that was a primary reason that they haven't done certain types was a lack of information. This probably also pertains to markings as well I imagine.
All this being said, I'm sure I'll find whatever they release interesting.
Dave Rickard
Rockhampton QLD
I still think this is a likely option Dave. As said - going on past history WNW play their cards very close regarding 'new' models. "Something of an Australian nature" leads me to think that that 'nod' will be a re-issue - what it could be remains to be seen but on the scale of it an RE8 would be an extremely popular choice.
That said I don't believe this refers to the new kits 'in development' - take a look at the numbers. The 'new kit in development' announcement are in the single kit series - 32043, 32044, 32062. (and that doesn't include the Halberstadt (32049)) The Duellists series prefix with an 8 and the new celebrity ones with a 6.
So hopefully, this means what it says - three new aircraft - in development - over coming months :) All will be revealed this weekend. Ah thank goodness we don't have to wait for long then before our anticipation is rewarded.
Tug
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I also support Gene's idea.....a Hanriot yes indeed!
Mike
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Nah, it's just a Dambuster's Lancaster.
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Nah, it's just a Dambuster's Lancaster.
2 Lancasters. Dambuster and Mki/III. No interest here so My Wallet is very safe at this point unless the 3rd release is something spectacular >:(
RAGIII
Seems I was wrong. Only one Lanc release. Sorry for the Missinformation!
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Wow. That is so colossally disappointing. There already is a 1/32 Lancaster just about to be for sale anyway - it has been in development for years so I would argue that WNW talk of not doing subjects that other companies are doing is total garbage.
Well thankfully CSM has some Nieuports coming out - they will get my $$$ looks like.
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Wow. That is so colossally disappointing. There already is a 1/32 Lancaster just about to be for sale anyway - it has been in development for years so I would argue that WNW talk of not doing subjects that other companies are doing is total garbage.
Well thankfully CSM has some Nieuports coming out - they will get my $$$ looks like.
Just for the record it has been announced that WNW has had this kit in Development for OVER 8 years! Not that changes my mind about my interest but they were working on it before HK.
RAGIII
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Heard that also but its likely that eight years timeframe includes time spent doing research for the planned movies as well. Ah well, hope it doesn't kill HK Model who is releasing their 1/32 kit soon - they don't have a billionaire backing them.
There are so many WW2 subjects already being done by other companies it is disappointing to see a company supposedly only focusing on WW1 move to doing WW2 as well....
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Wow. That is so colossally disappointing. There already is a 1/32 Lancaster just about to be for sale anyway - it has been in development for years so I would argue that WNW talk of not doing subjects that other companies are doing is total garbage.
Well thankfully CSM has some Nieuports coming out - they will get my $$$ looks like.
Just for the record it has been announced that WNW has had this kit in Development for OVER 8 years! Not that changes my mind about my interest but they were working on it before HK.
RAGIII
Sorry, but I'm calling BS here. Sir Peter has been developing the "Dambusters" movie for about this same amount of time. I will wager that the research claimed here is almost entirely the accumulated research and resources for this movie. There is bound to be massive amounts of overlap in the R&D department for both of these projects.
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There are so many WW2 subjects already being done by other companies it is disappointing to see a company supposedly only focusing on WW1 move to doing WW2 as well....
No Argument from Me on this point!
RAGIII
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Excellent news.
WNW is by no means slaved into any market niche.
I bet it will be a cracking good kit , that pretty much is certain to all of us by now.
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"Seems I was wrong. Only one Lanc release. Sorry for the Missinformation!"
Nope, you were right the first time. On the photo shown on Hyperscale's "What's New" page, 32044 is the "Dambusters" Lancaster; at the bottom of the illustration page, it says "Also in development" is 32043, the standard Lancaster B.Mk I/III.
So, that just leaves one more kit (of the three just announced) to be revealed this weekend.
Pete
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i'm not yet convinced that this is not a prank. i find it odd it only shows up one place when you google it...
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Definitely not a prank
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(https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hyperscale/download/file.php?id=16102)
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Given the choice between HK or a WNW Lancaster I’d pick the latter any day of the week.
Having said that I’m a bit let down.
Bet that thing will be $500, then imagine when it sells out.....the eBay prices will be through the roof!
Ryan :(
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i'm not yet convinced that this is not a prank. i find it odd it only shows up one place when you google it...
Unfortunately, it does not appear to be a prank.
See the artwork I posted above. Wait a couple days for the show to get underway. Soon we'll have photos all over the place.
Hobbylink Japan should be releasing their usual excellent videos as well shortly; they are the Japanese importer for WNW and they'll be talking about this for sure.
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Given the choice between HK or a WNW Lancaster I’d pick the latter any day of the week.
Having said that I’m a bit let down.
Bet that thing will be $500, then imagine when it sells out.....the eBay prices will be through the roof!
Ryan :(
My favorite WNW kit, by far, is the Felixstowe. And yet I haven't bought one or built one b/c the plane is just too big to be realistically displayed in my home.
A Lancaster is over 2 feet long and 3 feet wide! I have no idea how people will build and display these things.
And yes, it is going to cost a fortune!
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my heart sank when I saw this news,not that I don't like the lanc its a great subject but in 1/32 far to big for my house .I was really hoping for some new ww1 subjects.gutted.
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I must say this is incredibly disappointing and bewildering ??? Definitely a WTF! moment and they seem to be setting a rather worrying precedent here. What does this mean for the future of WWI kits from WNW? When I first saw the news I thought back to Richard Alexander's rather snarky quip when asked about doing a 1/32 Spad XIII and he retorted "how about a Bf109E", now with this release that doesn't seem so far-fetched! And once again they are treading on another company's toes here
Heard that also but its likely that eight years timeframe includes time spent doing research for the planned movies as well. Ah well, hope it doesn't kill HK Model who is releasing their 1/32 kit soon - they don't have a billionaire backing them.
There are so many WW2 subjects already being done by other companies it is disappointing to see a company supposedly only focusing on WW1 move to doing WW2 as well....
Whether it is deliberate or not, it's not a good look. HK have been putting a lot of work into getting their Lanc just right from what I've been seeing on FB and the net. I'll bet they didn't think they would be blindsided on something like a 1/32 Lanc especially by WNW! I can only imagine that the air in the HK offices would be turning a very dark shade of purple right about now.
it has been in development for years so I would argue that WNW talk of not doing subjects that other companies are doing is total garbage.
I can't see where WNW are going here. Most of the WWII fighters are very well covered in 1/32 by pretty much every other company and now with HK starting to cover the bombers as well as Trumpeter's upcoming 1/32 Liberators, they would be going head to head with not only small upcoming companies like HK but also with the big boys (Tamiya and Hasegawa) and I think, no matter how nice their kits are, they would lose on cost. So is this a bit of a one-off aberration coming from the development of Sir PJ's stalled Dambusters movie, or a shift away from what has made them successful. As I said above it sets a precedent, if they do one WWII kit and it turns out to be a success, there is nothing to stop them shifting that way full time. Of course WNW can do anything they want, they are a business after all, still it is disappointing for us WWI aficionados. I can only second what Petrov said, more power to CSM.
Guess we will see how far down this particular rabbit hole they are preparing to go. As a very famous Jedi Master from a certain space opera movie once said "Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny...consume you it will!" ;D
Dave Rickard
Rockhampton QLD
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But WHY??? I know here is not the right place for bad language.....What the ..... are you doing Sir PJ? I am so disapointed. You said you won't do a Fokker dr1 because you don't want to step on Roden's toe?And now you do a Completely useless Lancester, that is alreadyin high quality on the market by HK Models? I hope this is only a missstep and you still focus on WW1 subjects.
I will definitely NEVER buy it.
VERY ANGRY Manni >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Well, what a total 110% f-----g disappointment. When this and HK's version finally materialise that's a lot of 'kit' to dispose of in what is likely to possibly be a very small market given the likely cost of both. I would think that once that initial 'must have one' period is over there will quite a few years before the sold out sign appears.
I get the Dambusters connection and possibly the logic to a degree but WNW is WNW - WW2 is not something it needs to venture in. What a shame - well it is for me. It also begs the question that the remaining so far unattributed numbers may not now, after all, be new WW1 subjects :o
So, it looks like my wallet is safe Halberstadt excepted - Edgar you have my unequivocal support for your Nieuport(s)
A somewhat rather disappointed Tug
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The serial numbers don't make sense.
WNW have 320xx for standard releases, 326xx for figures with planes, 327xx for trilogy, 328xx for duellists - surely they would allocate a different batch number - e.g. 329xx , not 32043 and 32044 - if they really were making something as radically different as a WWII bomber?
I don't buy it.
Sandy
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Complete disappointment here as well. Mark this day, gentlemen. One era is all over today.
And how does that lovely logo of WNW with the pioneer pilot in front of a biplane fit to that junk of flying metal on the box art? Especially now, when they just released the fine T-shirt with that logo...
I am devastated...
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Hi!
I think you are right and this is a one shot opportunity due to P.Jackson upcoming movie.
Moreover, there are so many French and Italian WWI planes yet to be done!!!
Ciao
IWik who was hoping the three kits would be different versions of the Spad XIII... :(
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I think the Lancaster will prove to be an aberration. It seems to be linked directly with Peter Jackson's Dambusters movie project as others have mentioned.
We have learned over the years in interviews that WNW makes airplane kits that Peter Jackson personally finds interesting, and that the company has a whole does not need to make a profit, so long as they can cover their operating expenses.
So if Peter Jackson decides to build another non-WWI subject in the future, I guess they could and would build it, but we should probably be seeing more WWI aircraft. Those are what Peter Jackson finds interesting and that's why WNW exists in the first place---as a vehicle for WWI kit manufacture that otherwise doesn't exist.
I don't think it's wise to assume the traditional WWI game plan has been thrown in the garbage.
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So.... that is a big f******ing dissapiontment...
So what is next from WnW? a Spitfire? a P-51? or even worse... an F-14 or similar?
well, that saves a lot of money that will go to CSM this christmas!!!
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"It seems to be linked directly with Peter Jackson's Dambusters movie project as others have mentioned."
I would have been happier with the movie. My understanding is that funding for the movie project did not reach critical mass. I wonder what will become of the 1/1 scale models they made for the airfield scenes? As for the dog, and no offense to Stephen Fry who wrote the script, I would have used the name 'Nigel' as rhyming words are problematic.
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The serial numbers don't make sense.
WNW have 320xx for standard releases, 326xx for figures with planes, 327xx for trilogy, 328xx for duellists - surely they would allocate a different batch number - e.g. 329xx , not 32043 and 32044 - if they really were making something as radically different as a WWII bomber?
I don't buy it.
Sandy
My thoughts exactly, Sandy. I smell a rat.
Cheers
Syd
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On the WNW Fans fb page, someone has stated that he confirmed with WNW.
From what little I read, the forthcoming HK models is going to be very well detailed. If the price is significantly lower than the WNW kit, it may be that WNW takes the hit. For someone who might have the space to build and display it (verses just collecting one, in the WNW case), I would think price would make a difference, except for a diehard WNW fan.
A disappointment for me, but not as much as it seems for others. I was not waiting with bated breath.
Except for the SE.5a, I have what WNW kits I wanted from their existing line, and have the Collishaw Triplane on order. Roden will take care of that one missing one, and there are a few others, from other mfrs, that I will be buying, sooner, now that WNW won't be cutting into my model dollars :)
Jim F
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It's WnW always surprise us with their releases.
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I don't understand....was there another war after 1918? And why are those propellers made out of metal?
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There is no doubt that Peter Jackson is allowed to release every kit he likes.
But what makes this release so ignorant and arrogant is, that he harms another company severely that hasn't got his millions in the back.
Don't tell me that this is not the case because they are planning it for 8 years (if that should be true...)! Everybody, even me who doesn't care at all for a Lancaster, knew that HK had one in the making for quite a long time. It would have been simply a question of honor to warn them ("Hey stop that, we are also doing a Lancaster, let's not get into competition here!"). And don't tell me now "of course they did, it's HK who went on, ignoring that warning", as this is the most unplausible variant of this story, let's be honest! So all this friendly "we don't want to harm other companies"-talking semms not to be worth a penny and is obviously just a clever advertising strategy. Who doesn't prefer buying from the good guys? It seems as they aren't these good guys there in New Zealand, just ordinary business guys who stop at nothing...
Will I buy a Halberstadt? Yes, it's one of my favorite.
Will I buy a Lancester? Nope.
Will I celebrate WNW as this great modelling wonder company some people keep it? Nope. I celebrate Copper State Models, there are the really cool guys 8)
Will WNW care? Nope. ;D
Andreas
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I thought this was an April Fool's Joke, but I guess its not (still in shock I guess). Will continue to support WNW, but not on WW II subjects. Looking forward to seeing what the third release will be. :o :o :o
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Unlike most of you, I actually like this change in the direction :) Why? because it opens teh door and broadens the horizon infront of WnW and also increase competition. Now we will have the possibility to see how WnW compete within the most crowded modeling space WWII aircraft and the hobby in general will win out of this competition.
About the Lancaster itself, I am not buying this thing - it IS ugly and it is too big, but I will consider any WWII smaller aircraft in the future for the time when I want to build somethign different than stringbags :)
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Borsos - I have spent the morning off and on musing on this latest WNW action. You have - to my mind - summed it up perfectly.
I really do feel like I have been 'lead up the garden path' only there's no garden at the end of it. Of course they have every right to produce whatever they want, but to pull something like this seems rather thoughtless on their part with seemingly a total disregard of their customer base.
Sure these kits could have been announced as a 'special' but the inference that it was part of the ongoing series feels very like playing someone for a fool and actually I don't like being played as a fool !
So far CSM have been open on what they are doing - providing information throughout as to progress not only on the new kit but figures and decals as well. I have a sneaking feeling that this business acumen is going to go strongly in their favour.
Whatever - it's not the end of the world - perhaps time though to have a rethink as to where my money goes :-\
Tug
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I find it so disappointing to see some of the reactions on this forum. A forum I have loved visiting, reading, being entertained and learned from. A forum that had none of the negativity and self centredness found on so many of the other forums.
Until now.
So what if WNW release a WW2 aircraft or a ship or a car or a tank for that matter, if that brings similar pleasure and satisfaction to those that are interested in that genre should we not be pleased ?
How quickly some forget the incredible sequence of releases of the last few years and the incredible advancement and awareness that WNW bought to the WW1 genre which in itself has given the confidence for other companies to bring their products to market.
How quickly some decide to judge and criticise when a decision is made which does not suit their preconceptions.
Who cares if you purchase the Lancaster or not , that is a personal decision, who cares if you are disappointed or surprised by the release...what does it matter what WNW has said in the past about what they will consider releasing and on what basis these decisions are made..... they are allowed to make their decisions as they are taking the risk.....as all companies including HK and CSM Would do.....however none of this is justification for this sort of criticism.
We should be grateful and should remember what WNW has done for the genre and will probably continue to do, we should be pleased that they have done something different to bring satisfaction to those of other interests ...rather than treating our own short lived surprise and disappointment as a basis for criticism and judgement as to whom are the morally and/or ethically more worthy manufacturers.
The size and extent of WNW's financing and Sir Peters ability to provide such financing is totally ....irrelevant.
What is relevant is that WNW has taken and I hope will continue to take enormous risks, not just for Sir Peters personal pleasure but because I assume they and he want to share and grow the passion for the genre....if I was them reading some of the reactions on here I would probably say why should I bother....but I suspect and hope they are above all this.
Again ... very disappointed.
Dino
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They are a business and we are their customers. When a business I like changes course and contradicts what it has done and said in the past I will react to it and say my opinion even if negative.
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Good grief! Why are people making such an uproar over this? There is a very good reason why WNW has released this kit and it's not because they've decided to betray the WWI modelers, or to hurt HK, or any other nefarious plot that's been imagined.
Pure and simple - Peter Jackson has been working on a remake of the Dambusters movie for at least 7 or 8 years and his passion for the subject makes HIS model company's production of the aircraft participating in the raid a logical choice.
I would be willing to bet this will be the one and only non-WWI kit you'll ever see WNW produce. That is unless Sir Peter decides to redo The Battle of Britain, Tora Tora Tora, or Strategic Air Command. Hmm...can you imagine a 1/32 B-47 from WNW? :D
Cheers,
Eric
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They are a business and we are their customers. When a business I like changes course and contradicts what it has done and said in the past I will react to it and say my opinion even if negative.
I'm just curious...how does this contradict anything Wingnut Wings has ever done or said? I may have missed it but I can't recall a promise ever being made by WNW not to make anything outside of the WWI era. And as for a change of course, one WWII bomber, which is the subject of the movie Peter Jackson has been working on for many years, hardly constitutes a departure from Wingnut's usual subject matter.
Eric
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I don't really understand the fuss either, but, fortunately most of us live in a free world and are equally free to have opinions. :)
One indication of this being a one-off could be separate sprues for engines, weapons, etc as per their WWI kits. If the do a Merlin engine sprue with a load of extra's they just might pull a Centurion tank from their hat!
Now, where's the 1/32 Dam to go with the Lanc? ;D
Jeroen
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Are all 3 "New Models in Development" Lancasters, or are any of these WWI types?
I'm still hoping WNW will go pre-1914...one can only dream of a Fokker Spinne.
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They are a business and we are their customers. When a business I like changes course and contradicts what it has done and said in the past I will react to it and say my opinion even if negative.
I'm just curious...how does this contradict anything Wingnut Wings has ever done or said? I may have missed it but I can't recall a promise ever being made by WNW not to make anything outside of the WWI era. And as for a change of course, one WWII bomber, which is the subject of the movie Peter Jackson has been working on for many years, hardly constitutes a departure from Wingnut's usual subject matter.
Eric
From 2010 article on Hyperscale - actually pretty funny:
However modellers hoping for Wingnut kits of WW2 subjects such as a 1/32 Lancaster will be disappointed.
“We are concentrating on WW1 subjects. Personally I feel that the vast majority of WW2 subjects have been covered pretty well in 1/32, ” Richard said.
In the end I guess it does not matter - maybe I am just being petty as the excitement of three new WW1 models turned into two WW2 models that are already being done by another manufacturer and maybe a third one. Whatever. Life goes on and glad for all those who need a 1/32 Lancaster in their lives.
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Very well stated Dino:
I too am disappointed by the vitriol that is being displayed on this Forum regarding the announced release of the WNW 1/32nd Lancaster. How quickly those forumites have forgotten that prior to 2009, there were maybe a dozen 1/32nd WWI aircraft kits on the market, some really bad. Since 2009, we have seen over 60 quality 1/32nd WWI aircraft kits released by WNW with more to follow. What's the problem here? A bunch of grown men who didn't get what they wanted? Apparently this kit has been in the pipeline for the past 8 years. What obligation does a company have to alert it's competitors to what that company is doing? None! How many freaking 1/48 and 1/32nd P-51 Mustangs are out there? Did Revell tell Monogram not to release a P-51 because they were? Did Airfix tell Revell not to produce a B-24 or B-17 because they were? People still buy them from whatever model company they want that's what competition is about. So, WNW decides to do a 1/32nd bomber that just happens to be a Lancaster that another model company is doing. It's happened before and it will happen again. It's a risk they take.
I believe that all of the WNW staff read this forum, I know for sure two do, and for the members of this forum to write this tripe about a model company making a model to me is absurd.
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Well, I guess the time for a small and informal injection of Moderator perspective has come........
Our cardinal rule on the Forum is to not allow hurtful or unfair criticism of anyone, including the Companies that support our Hobby. I sense that some are getting a little tough on Wingnut Wings here Guys, and hope it doesn't go much, if at all, further. We are getting a little too close to the line as defined in the Forum Rules as laid out by Des long ago. I too am disappointed that three new WW.I subjects have not been announced, and personally am extremely unlikely to acquire a 1:32 Scale Lancaster. Having said that, however, I am extremely happy with the 30 or more of their WW.I subjects that I have. I suggest to put that into proper perspective take a moment, as I just have, to read Eric and Dino's comments earlier; thank you both for stating it so succinctly and putting these events into proper perspective! Well said on both of your parts.
Please don't get me wrong here, I respect and enjoy debate and constructive criticism a great deal, and our world and this Forum would be very dull indeed if we all just agreed to agree! In the big picture I suspect that there's plenty more wind, wire and fabric subjects to go before Wingnut Wings is done. Just look at their inventory to date and what they've done for us and the Hobby in such a short time!
Cheers,
Lance
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Good Lord - just saying you are disappointed in WNW constitutes "bashing" them and it is "vitriol" and needs moderation apparently.
I think I need a break from forums for awhile anyway. Peace Out and feel free to remove my account here.
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So if WNW is now the vehicle for Peter Jackson to make whatever model he fancies instead of purely a WWI aircraft modeling company, what is next, or what might be released in the future?
I assume Peter Jackson still owns most of the relevant licensing for the world of JRR Tolkien.
How about a detailed kit of something from that world? A giant Minas Tirith city set; a 1/35 scale "Grond" battering ram, maybe a stand alone model of Isengard, say, that is close to a meter tall?
There's a ton of things from that universe that I'd build a model of!
But for some reason I don't see LOTR kits surfacing.
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Well, I did say it would be something that no one had thought of, but that’s a surprise by anyone’s standards!
Personally I’m grateful for any new high quality 1/32 kit on the market. Too big for me though... I can understand people’s reaction, but it doesn’t signal an end of WW1 kits.
Guy
Ps let’s wait and see what the 3rd kit will be...
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A forum that had none of the negativity and self centredness found on so many of the other forums. ... . Until now.
I agree. Your arrogant post is ... well ... arrogant, negative, and self centered. Please let others express their opinions without chastising them.
Gene K
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Small point - unless I've missed it, nothing stated so far negates the possibility of a 'Christmas surprise', on top of the Halberstadt. Then there's whatever the 3rd kit turns out to be, and of course the in development kits won't be here for a while, but still.
Crossed fingers that they don't decide we don't deserve a 'surprise' this year! ;)
Mark
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Good Lord - just saying you are disappointed in WNW constitutes "bashing" them and it is "vitriol" and needs moderation apparently.
I think I need a break from forums for awhile anyway. Peace Out and feel free to remove my account here.
I must say I can understand Petrovs point here. There were many many much harisher words regarding other companies products like Roden’s or Special Hobby’s just to name a few. And no one intervened immediately and insisted on more humility and thankfullness towards them. Criticizing WNW seems to become a kind of a sacrilege for some people and the announcement of a new product gets close to a religious relevation.
I think WNW will stand it when people write down their dissappointments here. That’s free speech, isn’t it?
And yes, there are in fact of course huge differences between Monogramm and Airfix releasing both some P-51s, both kits in huge masses and for the price of some 15€ and a huge 1:32 kit that will attract just a very small amount of buyers who have to invest quite an amount of money. To simply ignore that the release of this Lancaster will most probably be a serious blow for HK is not very friendly towards the guys from HK (ok, they most probably won’t read this forum here). To compare a mass production kit for 15-20€ with a very expensive high-end kit and wipe out any criticism with the sentence „that’s business“ is not O.K.
Andreas
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I think it is time to calm down. As I wrote before I am very disappointed and angry. But we have to keep in mind that all kits are just a bunch of plasic parts. Nothing to argue about.
And let's be honest, nearly everyone of us has so many model Kits in the stash, he could never build in his livetime.
Bye,
Manni
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I sure picked the wrong weekend to be out of town!
Like many I am surprised that Wingnuts has announced a Lancaster but I am assured their prime focus will continue to be WW1 aircraft
I support Lance's comments about some posts crossing the line of civil behavior. It shows how passionate some people feel but that does not mean they can make personal criticisms of people at Wingnuts.
Please keep this discussion civil. A robust debate is welcome. Personal attacks are not welcome.
Lance is the moderator and I totally support his comments.
Dave Wilson
Forum Administrator
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I too, am surprised at this release. HK has been working on a lanc for quite a while. Whatever WNW timeline is, doesn't really matter now. They are going to have two variations of the lanc. I wonder to my self( and now here!) if we may see.... a G4m Betty, FW-200, Short Sunderland, SM-79.... and some few others. Not WWI, but just because WNW has released a Lanc, does not mean they have given up on WWI kits. I'm happy to see pretty much any 1/32 since that has always been my scale. People will vote with their wallets ultimately, so I see no reason the get peeved about this, but others mileage will vary.
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After having a night to sleep on it, I guess, in the most part, I have to agree with Manni that it is not worth getting that worked up over. I don't agree with some others here though that being critical of this decision by WNW amounts to 'bashing' the company. As some here have pointed out WNW's words and actions over the years just don't seem to gel. For years we were told, rather emphatically 'no Sopwith Camel' then suddenly we get 6. As Petrov pointed out:
From 2010 article on Hyperscale:
However modellers hoping for Wingnut kits of WW2 subjects such as a 1/32 Lancaster will be disappointed.
“We are concentrating on WW1 subjects. Personally I feel that the vast majority of WW2 subjects have been covered pretty well in 1/32, ” Richard said.
8 years in development would tally with that interview rather nicely, though before anyone points it out, Richard didn't say that WNW wouldn't one day have a crack at WWII. I guess what I'm trying to say is do we take everything WNW say as 'gospel' or with 'a grain of salt' as the saying goes. Now please don't misconstrue this as an attack on WNW, this is more of an observation than anything else, personally I love their product and I, like probably everyone else here, have several of their kits partially made or sitting in my stash (though not as many as I would like ::)) as well as my eye on several of their kits to buy. WNW have always done things a little different from other companies they like to surprise their customers with their releases and, as Guy said, this one certainly qualifies as a surprise just not the one we were expecting! The disappointment has kind of faded a bit, though I must admit the bewilderment still remains. I'm looking forward (with a mixture of trepidation and excitement!) to the unveiling of the last of the 3 kits at the show.
On the flip side of all this it's rather interesting to contrast the feelings and opinions here on the forum with what I've seen on Facebook from the WWII brigade. They are over the moon about this release. It says a lot about the quality of WNW's models that, sight unseen, this release can generate that level of buzz from a community that has more than likely only heard about the engineering on these kits. HK has a complete test shot of their Lanc at the show while WNW has only a promo flyer yet I have seen comments to the effect of bypassing the HK kit in favour of the WNW one based purely on their reputation alone, as I said above, one thing you can say is WNW has had a major impact on the hobby not just in WWI sphere but across the board. To end on a lighter note, I had a bit of a chuckle when I read Matt McDougal of Doog's Model's FB post on the WNW Lanc release:
"Wingnuts is going to some pretty ridiculous lengths to avoid kitting a SPAD XIII" ;D
Dave Rickard
Rockhampton QLD
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I feel those of you are criticizing the folks venting their disappointment are missing the point.
This IS a World War I aircraft modelling forum (yes, it does include other aspects, but still, WWI).
A major number of the members are (perhaps were, now?) avid fans of WNW, and have supported the company by buying large numbers of their kits.
Why should they NOT feel disappointed, and vent those feelings on here.
If the venting bothers you that much, perhaps going to a WWII modelling site, or general aircraft site will make you feel better, I'm sure there are folks on them who are jumping with joy over this announcement.
As longs as it's not a personal attack, venting should not be considered wrong.
Just my 25 cents worth (I know, used to be 2 cents, but hey, inflation)
Jim F
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I consider WNW and Peter Jackson as gods for WWI modelers....they completely revolutionized our hobby. In 2005, who could have imagined beautifully crafted 1/32 scale LVGs, Rolands, AEGs, Bristols, Rumplers, etc. Before WNW it was the Middle Ages for WWI modelers...we're now living in the Golden Age.
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Good Lord - just saying you are disappointed in WNW constitutes "bashing" them and it is "vitriol" and needs moderation apparently.
I think I need a break from forums for awhile anyway. Peace Out and feel free to remove my account here.
Well I must agree with your sentiments. No Vitriol from me but certainly disappointed. But not about deleting my account or leaving the Forum.
RAGIII
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Now people are criticizing the moderator for his rightful concerns over the tone some people, I repeat some people have voiced regarding Sir Peter Jackson and wingnuts business practices.
Let me reiterate, I have no issues over people voicing disappointment with the Lancaster decision but we will not tolerate any posts that are abusive in nature against anyone.
So I fully support the rights to voice disappointment but if this becomes abusive you can expect such posts to be deleted.
Dave Wilson
Forum Administrator
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It appears the "3 new kit announcements" to be made at Tokyo are now known.
We have two Lancasters, and third kit is apparently a second Halberstadt Cl.II.
They are releasing an early and late variant of the Halberstadt.
We have always known one was in production, and now we are learning of the second.
I think that's it.
I was very much excited about three new WWI aircraft subjects being announced in Tokyo!
As it turns out, we didn't really get any! 2 Lancasters from WWII and a second iteration of a kit we already knew about.
Kind of disappointing. Luckily there are still many other WNW kits out there, and I'm looking very forward to the CSM Nieuport!
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This is such a strange thread to see here on this wonderful forum. :(
Just a week or so before Des died I sold him a Tamiya 1/32 DH Mosquito. He was thrilled to receive it and couldn't wait to get going on this incredibly detailed kit. My guess is that if Des had lived to hear this annoucement from WNW he would have said "Wow! That could be a really amazing kit to build"...and that would be exactly the right spirit with which we should receive this news. News that is otherwise utterly inconsequential.
Cheers,
Alistair
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Dave Johnson of Wingnut Wings reassures members the main focus of Wingnuts is WW1 aircraft.
That's official folks.
I prescribe two Halberstadts as a remedy to the upset dispositions.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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I prescribe two Halberstadts as a remedy to the upset dispositions.
early and late, 3rd kit is another Halberstadt CL.II. box art on display at the WNW booth.
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The dambusters is certainly a legendary story and I bet the film will be awesome. We just need to convince Mr Jackson to make a state of the art tribute to McCudden, Mannock or Ball! With all the flying replicas he has at Vintage Aviator and a little CGI, I've no doubt he could create a fitting tribute to these knights of the air and also the centenary of the Great War.
A top flight film of the reality of the WW1 air story is long over due, I wrote to Richard Alexander a few years back to see if he could help sow the seeds but sadly no luck as yet. Just think of the models that could spin off that....!
Paul
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Operation Chastise: 1300-2400 casualties (unarmed civilians — women, children, many allied POW‘s, forced laborers)
In Harris‘ view no military value .... truely a legendary story...
But that’s not my point. I am truly confused by the fact that criticising a company which is not even a member of this forum is seen more problematic than the polemic and unobjective reaction of some of the companies loyal disciples. A member of this forum seems to have left our community and this is worth no words, the business practice of PJ is more important ... that’s not how I knew this forum. For me that’s the real disappointment here.
When it comes to WNW many people take every word that is not a pure praise for WNW as illegitimate insult. WNW produces some breathtaking model kits and I own them all (no flying boats, but every bird with wheels). I spend quite much money on their products, I would do that again and I don’t regret anything. Building their kits is pure fun.
But I definitely do criticize WNW‘s business practices when I see a reason to do so — as I praise them when I see a reason to do so (Halberstadt :) )
Andreas
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32049 : Halberstadt CL.II - early
32062 : Halberstadt CL.II - late
(https://i.postimg.cc/VkznJ4qD/427.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/GmStbjqB/4272.jpg)
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Ahhh. That's nice. Lovely schemes. Hopefully before Christmas .Thalia Lorenzo.
Bye, Manni
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Two more on the to buy list. Those Halberstadts look great.
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Just perfect. Schlasta 26b, Thea, “stripey”... I’m in for at least one early and one late boxing.
Andreas
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Now we’re talking, I’ll take one of each!
Ryan
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Just in case anybody is so upset with WNW over this that they can't face building another WNW kit I am very happy to take any spare W.29's off your hands ;D ;D ;D
OK tongue firmly in cheek here, but just in case
P
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My mother's name was Thea, so no question, which one I'll get!
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What great news from WNW this weekend! The diehard WWII fans finally get to see what all the fuss is about and the rest of us get a pair of happy Halberstadts. Works for me... ;)
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Just a point about the Lancaster. I would love to get one, but it will probably be too big or expensive, as would a lot of others. As such, a lot of people will visit the wingnut site, to look at the details and there is a good chance they will look at all the other kits that are made by WNW. They might give them a try and we get more people into WWI subjects. This may be a one off for them, but in a way I hope not, because I do like some of the aircraft that were made in between the wars and it would be nice to see them in plastic, but I also see it as a chance to lure more people into WWI aviation. Now if someone would only make more vehicles and accessories to go with all those luvley WWI planes.
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Those Halberstadt kits look absolutely delicious. I can see multiple purchases in my future. As for the Lancasters, I'm not considering them at this time but lets see how I feel after the movie comes out. I am actually encouraged by them because if WNW is open to working in different eras, they might be open to different scales. I would flip out if Sir Peter and the crew began to produce kits of vehicles and figures from WWI in 1/35 scale, still my beating heart! Can you imagine British, French and German artillery pieces being transported by horses or vehicles, or being fired by their crews? Wow, that would be cool!
Dwayne
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Those Halberstadt kits look absolutely delicious. I can see multiple purchases in my future. As for the Lancasters, I'm not considering them at this time but lets see how I feel after the movie comes out. I am actually encouraged by them because if WNW is open to working in different eras, they might be open to different scales. I would flip out if Sir Peter and the crew began to produce kits of vehicles and figures from WWI in 1/35 scale, still my beating heart! Can you imagine British, French and German artillery pieces being transported by horses or vehicles, or being fired by their crews? Wow, that would be cool!
Dwayne
As far as I know, the movie has been permanently shelved for lack of financing.
I guess it's been kicked around for a decade or so at this point.
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Cutting steel for a 1/32 scale model is cheaper than making movies, no doubt. Sir Peter, I'd take those vehicles, figures and such in 1/32 as well! ;D
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There was also SirPJ's concern that the original film's two main roles were near perfect portrayals of both Barnes Wallis(sp?) and Gibson, and he had genuine doubts as to whether he could find actors to do the original justice. Given his inability to restrain himself from shoe-horning in his own personal take on stories (his rewrite of both of JRRT's films to include increasing amounts of what looked like in game footage was preposterous) then perhaps it's better he leaves well alone. That having been said, it would be intriguing to see a modern special effect unit get to grips with the bomb run sequences in the original.
I think the Lancs will be interesting but most of all, very much a boyhood dream realised...which is how WNW arose. Good luck to him.
Those Halberstadt kits look absolutely delicious. I can see multiple purchases in my future. As for the Lancasters, I'm not considering them at this time but lets see how I feel after the movie comes out. I am actually encouraged by them because if WNW is open to working in different eras, they might be open to different scales. I would flip out if Sir Peter and the crew began to produce kits of vehicles and figures from WWI in 1/35 scale, still my beating heart! Can you imagine British, French and German artillery pieces being transported by horses or vehicles, or being fired by their crews? Wow, that would be cool!
Dwayne
As far as I know, the movie has been permanently shelved for lack of financing.
I guess it's been kicked around for a decade or so at this point.
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There was also SirPJ's concern that the original film's two main roles were near perfect portrayals of both Barnes Wallis(sp?) and Gibson, and he had genuine doubts as to whether he could find actors to do the original justice. Given his inability to restrain himself from shoe-horning in his own personal take on stories (his rewrite of both of JRRT's films to include increasing amounts of what looked like in game footage was preposterous) then perhaps it's better he leaves well alone. That having been said, it would be intriguing to see a modern special effect unit get to grips with the bomb run sequences in the original.
I think the Lancs will be interesting but most of all, very much a boyhood dream realised...which is how WNW arose. Good luck to him.
Those Halberstadt kits look absolutely delicious. I can see multiple purchases in my future. As for the Lancasters, I'm not considering them at this time but lets see how I feel after the movie comes out. I am actually encouraged by them because if WNW is open to working in different eras, they might be open to different scales. I would flip out if Sir Peter and the crew began to produce kits of vehicles and figures from WWI in 1/35 scale, still my beating heart! Can you imagine British, French and German artillery pieces being transported by horses or vehicles, or being fired by their crews? Wow, that would be cool!
Dwayne
As far as I know, the movie has been permanently shelved for lack of financing.
I guess it's been kicked around for a decade or so at this point.
one thing you all have to understand about how the feature-film industry works today: if it's not a lock to be a blockbuster it's unlikely to get funded at a high level. studios are very conservative. so, even after the relative success of Dunkirk, Sir PJ's inability to make the film most likely has little to do with his personal take and everything to do with it not being, say, Avengers 43... or Guy Gibson: a Star Wars Story.
and the companies that embrace quality over breadth of appeal don't tend to fund projects at a blockbuster-level (Netflix, Amazon, HBO etc). similar to old school studios they've gotta amortize their flops.
so whether it would have been crap or a stroke of genius on the level of Saving Private Ryan without the corny present-day graveyard scenes matter less than the reality that, to the people who can say yes, it isn't the KIND of movie they'd say yes to at that budget level.
so nope. no Dambusters reboot. i'd bet half a year's pay on that... and i rarely lose a bet.
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Would I be the only one who thinks one of the richest men in world most likely wouldn't need financing for anything he wanted to do?
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This off topic discussion is better placed in the Time to Relax board than here.
Dave Wilson
Forum Administrator
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SO..... steering back onto the track, the Halberstats look interesting. I may buy one. This is exactly the sort of esoteric, largely unknown aircraft type that WNW launched with. That said, the Lanc is pretty darn cool. I wonder if WNW will go on to produce some other WWII types, in parallel with WWI types? Would it bother me to see a G4m Betty by WNW? A Do-17? A Sunderland? We 1/32 builders may see some great stuff down the line.
I am tired of waiting for the Sopwith Baby, so I'd like to see THAT soon-ish.
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Can't wait to see all the other awesome things in the future.... the possibilities are now endless! So excited
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There are now some CAD images for the Lancasters up on the site -if they pull off that stressed skin effect... wow! I'll stick to my 1/72 versions, but that sure looks impressive from a technical point of view!
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There are now some CAD images for the Lancasters up on the site -if they pull off that stressed skin effect... wow! I'll stick to my 1/72 versions, but that sure looks impressive from a technical point of view!
I like the looks of the Halbies. A sleek aircraft and some great schemes. Nieuports first though! That being said I think we should follow Daves lead and only refer to the WWII stuff in the Time to relax section. Yes it is WNW but it is OFF Topic for this Forum. JMHO,
RAGIII
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Thanks Rick, you are quite correct that any non-WW1 model subjects, irrespective of the manufacturer, belong in the Time to Relax section.
Many of us model other eras too and Time to Relax is the ideal place to discuss HK or Wingnut Lancasters, or any of the other enticing new subjects coming our way.
But on this board, the excitement is always focused on our WW1 era.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia