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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: lcarroll on August 19, 2018, 12:28:30 PM
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Here's my next project, the familiar Wingnut Wings LVG offering. I missed the initial release and regretted not taking the opportunity earlier. Fortunately the recent release of the Duelist LVG C.VI and Clerget Sopwith Camel filled the desire for both Kits.
(https://i.imgur.com/36jhOhc.jpg)
I'll be using the two excellent Albatros Publications Windsock articles, the Kit's Plan Booklet, and the wealth of excellent photos on the Wingnuts site for references for the Build.
(https://i.imgur.com/C6c1dZv.jpg)
I have ordered the HGW Fabric Seat Belt set for the model and also Gaspatch guns, both the single Spandau 08 and the Parabellum for the Observer. I have yet to decide on the color scheme but have narrowed the choices down to either the Kit scheme of 7243/18 of Flieger Abteilung 13 or the Unknown Unit version of scheme #1 in the original Kit with the checker board panels.
Over the past several days I've commenced the Build with the Benz IV engine:
The magnetos have been drilled to receive the ignition leads:
(https://i.imgur.com/YupRwfF.jpg)
The main components assembled:
(https://i.imgur.com/WunTZkm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/v9vJynW.jpg)
...... and the block sprayed with Alclad II Dull Aluminum, the cylinder bank with Tamiya S/G Black and Modelmaster Guards Red darkened with the S/C Black. I then added the stainless steel push rods as I chose the option of the cylinders without the molded rods which I see as far too large.
(https://i.imgur.com/vBHPS6F.jpg)
I also "scratched" the ignition wire heat shields/conduits from thin aluminum stock (disposable cake pan material) and installed them with CA.
(https://i.imgur.com/xTvFgMR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Z4PjHyH.jpg)
So I've got a start on this one, next comes the ignition wires and some add on "plumbing". I am really looking forward to this Build, it looks like a great Kit!
Cheers,
Lance
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Lovely Lance!
I’ve always fancied this one ;D
Guy
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A very nice start on the engine Lance.
I got in there straight away and ordered the LVG when it was first released.
Although nearing the end of my project, you have still made more progress on your engine in a few days ,than I have on mine spanning 9 years and counting!
Enjoy the build.
Dave :)
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Guy,
Thanks! It is a very attractive aircraft and a real icon of WW.I in the air.
Dave,
Thanks for looking in, I hope to finish it up in slightly less time then that! ;) It should be a very enjoyable Build from what I see in the box.
Cheers,
Lance
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Lance - looking forward to your build. Thanks for the picture of the magnetos being drilled while still attached to the sprue. I like watching progress pictures and seeing the great work here, but the technique pictures help even more. I have been making things a real struggle by removing parts from the sprues before doing detail work on them-your way looks a lot easier. Probably something known to everyone else here, but for me, this was a revelation. thanks! Dave
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Very nice start on the engine Lance, really looking forward to your progress on this bird.
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Dave,
Along the line of "true confessions" I must admit to learning this lesson the hard way; I must have drilled out close to a dozen of these (and similar tiny parts) before it suddenly dawned on me that leaving them attached made supporting the work a lot easier, and also made the pain of slipped drill bits and blades on fingers go away, a slow process, but progress never the less! :-[
Glad to be of help.
Juan,
Thanks for looking and for your comment, much appreciated. :)
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi Lance and off to the races with the engine. Looks good so far, I like the red on the cylinders, makes the engine stand out that much more. As you are adding material to the engine, it is good with this kit to test fit how it all fits in the fuselage as it is engineered pretty close. I think you'll be okay with what you are doing, but double check. It is a great kit and I look forward to seeing your work as you progress on the build.
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Looking good.
And yes working on parts while attached to the sprue is a good method , used by modelers for decades.
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Another great start on another build of which I expect no less than the usual masterpiece from your bench, Lance!
Andreas
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Mark,
Good point and one I'll keep firmly in mind!
Steve,
Yes, like most old "Fuddy Duddies" I knew that at one time but forgot. (Again/still!!)
Andreas,
Thanks for the comment and encouragement!
Cheers All,
Lance
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Another fan of yours looking and waiting for updates ;)
Good luck!
vB
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So you have been secretly building have you - and all the while pretending that you were tidying up your work space!
Good start Lance, that engine already looks very good and with your added details is going to be even better. I'll bet you finish this kit before I complete my current build!
Stephen.
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Having just finished my LVG I look forward to seeing your considerable skills turned to this wonderful model! The engine already looks brilliant.
Cheers
Alistair
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Bob and Alistair,
Thank you for the very positive and complimentary remarks, I really appreciate your support and encouragement.
Stephen,
I may be a little slower to the finish line then you think! I've been working on the ignition leads and as fast as I install a wire I seem to break another off! These old not so slim fingers are becoming a bit of a liability I'm afraid ....... I may have to switch to Lego Builds!
Cheers,
Lance
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Lance, after a holiday (hiking in Austria) I look the first time into the forum and found your new project!
Of course I will follow this journey after the nice start :-*
Have fun!
Cheers,
Frank
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A fine start on this one, Lance. Looking forward to what you do with it.
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Frank, Prze,
Thanks for looking and commenting. I've completed the engine and hope to post a small update later today.
Cheers,
Lance
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With the exception of the magnetos and their wires I decided to call the engine complete at this stage; the extra plumbing I had intended to add next would be completely hidden from view as I intend to display the model with all of the engine cowlings in place.
(https://i.imgur.com/Y1FSZ0O.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rkP1RzH.jpg)
The plug wires were done with .10 mm lead wire and the air intake manifolds, oil tank, and crankcase oil filler pipe added. The engine was given a light wash of AK Interactive Engine Wash and also some of their Engine Oil. I hope to add the magnetos today and then I can put it aside and start on the cockpit assemblies.
Cheers,
Lance
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You're moving right along on this Lance. Engine looks good. Yes, adding all the other goodies will all disappear once you button it all up. What you have will display nicely.
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A nice start and a promising build. I like the engine made this way.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Thanks Mark and Giuseppe, It's always a pleasure to get comments like these. I've had a heck of a day and too many interruptions to make any further progress, but there's always tomorrow! :)
Cheers,
Lance
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Very nice engine, Lance. Iam looking forward to the next update.
Bye,
Manni
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That engine looks super Lance: what a pity to hide it behind the cowling. Could you not leave one side off?
Stephen.
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Stephen, Manni,
Thank you both for your comments. I may leave the left side open depending on how the "fit" of that part works out however if so I'll have to make several additions to the engine.
Cheers,
Lance
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Your ‘not so slim’ fingers have done a good job Lance!
I always struggle with the ignition leads. Can I ask what wire you use and what you use to glue them?
Guy
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Lance
You got me going here. I built a 1:48 Blue Max LVG C.VI ten or so years ago. It is arguably the best plastic model I ever built. Certainly the most enjoyable. Loved the airplane and loved the kit. Seeing what you have done with your LVG so far, I thought maybe I'd have another go this time in 1:32. Then I see it is out of print. Bummer. Then I see it is still available in a Duelist kit with a Camel. I guess you really got to me since I just pulled the ole digital trigger on it. So if you get any wild e-mails or an angry lady on the phone, you'll know I got caught and threw you under the bus :-) It will be a while before I start it, but I couldn't start it if I didn't have it.
sp
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Beautiful detailing Lance. This is shaping up as a super build. I like the subtle engine oil effects.
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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sp,
Glad I could help!! It would appear that your self control and discipline when it comes to this hobby is as finely tuned as mine.........!? ::) In the interim you hopefully won't mind if I use you as an excuse for my own situation, as my "present wife" rolls her eyes at the Stash shelf here next time ....... it's madness I tells ya!! And by the way, your logic regarding "starting vs. having" is sheer genius!
Dave, Thanks for looking and for the nice comment!
Cheers,
Lance
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Magnetos are on, decal added to front cylinder, and until I looked at the "brutal" Macro photos I thought the touch ups were complete. I'll have to take a few minutes and touch up some of the black components later. For now I'm starting on the cockpits.
Here's a couple of shots of the engine as it rests today:
(https://i.imgur.com/uGFHih7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8NX8oeo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lGJzvqL.jpg)
Cheers,
Lance
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Gorgeous engine, Lance! I don't see where any touch-ups are required.
Cheers,
Bud
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I agree with Bud - those macro shots show a superb engine, especially the wiring.
Stephen.
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Bud, Stephen,
Wow! You Guys are far too kind, thanks so much. I'll repeat the comment someone else once made, "we are our own worst critics when it comes to our work". I sometimes cringe at what pops out in the photos I post on my Build Logs however I accept the results as being the best I can do, and significantly not perfect by a,long shot! As long as the fun remains in the Build that's the priority; getting positive and complimentary feedback such as this adds to the enjoyment of the project. Thanks again! :)
Cheers,
Lance
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Lance
Engine looks great. How's it run?
Sorry, couldn't resist. That really is excellent work and it is evident that the fun still exists..in abundance. I learned a lot just looking at your photos. Your extra efforts to photograph and post these shots is most appreciated.
sp
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Lovely engine, Lance. Go on!
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Thanks sp, and Przemol, it's going well so far.
Cheers,
Lance
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Nice work on the engine, Lance. The LVG C.VI was the first German WnW kit I built and I enjoyed every minute (except for the rib tapes!).
Just wanted to re-ask Gisbod's question about the material for the ignition leads and what you use to glue them?
Cheers,
Gary
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Gary, (and Guy)
Oops, I missed your question Guy, sorry!
As I said earlier I still struggle with the ignition wires. I've tried various sizes of copper wire and both Modelkasten and EZ line, 0.010 inch lead line used in Fly Fishing "flies", and various types of monofilament fishing lines; none of these produce great results IMHO. On this one I used a 0.3 mm Stainless Steel "Beading Wire" which is used to string beads on for craft jewelry, that was a complete failure and I stripped it all off and went back to lead wire. On the magnetos I used mono fishing line (0.13mm) and I think next time it will be the material of choice for all wires. for all I use medium or thick CA as a glue. I've also tried using the eyelets from Bob's Buckles to attach the wires to the plugs and I want to try that again, it gives a much cleaner connection then you see here. There's still lots to be learned on this topic for me!
Gary, I remember seeing your "Eleynor" at the Regional Competition 4 or 5 years ago, a magnificent model and I'd like to come just close to it with this one. I was starting to wonder if you'd drifted back to the "dark side" of Armour Modelling and abandoned us, nice to hear from you again!
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi Lance:
The engine looks the business. I bet the fun meter was pegged in the red zone painting the cylinder stripes red. :o The engine is a gem and will look good in the front end of the LVG. I am still trying to figure out how to do the snow camo scheme. Someone masked it using toothpaste. I wonder how he did that.
Looks good and keep those updates coming.
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Thanks Mark, I hope to do another update in the next day or so. The HGW belts arrived today and I've got a good start on the cockpits, I need one good desk session to get some progress that shows! It's a really smooth Build so far, nice Kit!
Cheers,
Lance
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So here it is yet another week later and I'm still plodding along on the cockpit portion of the Build. It's not complete but here's a progress report before I get too far along.
I started with the fuselage formers and leaning gratefully on Przemol's research and Jamo's photo spread on the aircraft here on the Forum started with removal of the Starter Magneto from the instrument panel former to relocate it on the port side panel.
(https://i.imgur.com/iFpBDy0.jpg)
The former for the rear of the pilot's position was modified by opening up the center portion.
(https://i.imgur.com/oynrEc8.jpg)
The formers were wood grained with an acrylic base coat and oils for the grain effect and then I added the instrument details, the panel still requires a small selector lever on the left side. AeroClub Instrument Bezels were added as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/KhqgWqH.jpg)
The ammunition storage box was added to the firewall and the formers drilled for routing of the flight control cables.
(https://i.imgur.com/o5V5EFZ.jpg)
Next the fuel tank and pilot's seat were completed and the rudder controls with scratch built rudder cable pulleys followed. The seat belts and flight control cables will be next.
(https://i.imgur.com/JIOmNrg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/r4PJAvG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/p5SXL6E.jpg)
The flight control column and radio for the rear cockpit are completed as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/qe3Mw16.jpg)
Next came the various side panel completions. The left side still requires some fuel lines and push rods for the engine controls. the magneto and it's added panel are done and in place. I'm leaving the smaller fuel control until the cockpit is assembled as it is very delicate and I want to avoid breaking it for the third time!
(https://i.imgur.com/FDrzkmw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jdJS0Yc.jpg)
The right side is about 80% complete. I've relocated the wireless aerial spool to the side and added a scratch built compass and a fuel shutoff lever from the spares box. It still requires a line and a push rod to be complete.
(https://i.imgur.com/ddgUCmB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bZnedZW.jpg)
For a change of pace I completed the upper wing center section and radiator while doing the fuel tank.
(https://i.imgur.com/WSnDyNA.jpg)
The rear cockpit will now get some attention as well. Waiting on the side are the wings and tail flying components already sprayed white, pre-shaded, and glossed up with Future for the lozenge decal application.
Things should speed up a bit from this point!
Cheers,
Lance
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Lance
\You are making it hard for me to keep my LVG sprues sealed in the plastic. Feel free to continue, I'm learning a lot.
sp
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Another update another eye candy moment ;)
Keep sending the candy, Lance!
vB
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Lovely, Lance. And so familiar ;)
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Thanks for commenting sp and von B. Thank you as well Prze, I'm not surprised you recognize the subject! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
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Superb detailing Lance. I am just glad that the cockpit of the Gunbus was simple by comparison because I could not add the details that you have on your model.
Stephen.
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Stephen,
Thank you for your kind comment. Having followed your FB.5 Thread I can't agree, your detailed approach to date is most impressive! (and you are working on a much more challenging project then this Kit.)
Cheers,
Lance
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Wonderful work Lance - I now wish you and Prze had been ahead of me so I could steal ideas! Too late for that...
It may be here in the thread but which scheme are you going to recreate?
Cheers
Alistair
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Thanks Alistair,
I ordered the Wingnut Wings original decal sheet for the Kit when I got the Duelist LVG/Camel Kit originally as I thought the latter single scheme too plain. My original choice was "Mia"/Eleynor" but it's so popular out there that I'm now working towards scheme number one of the original Kit with the black and white checker board panels on the fuselage or scheme number five with the black and white lightning fuselage band. Both schemes are rather plain but I like the light stained wood fuselage effect for this aircraft. I'd also like to use a four vs. five color lozenge with a light brown or buff varnish over spray which the reference material states was common on the production runs.
I was very pleased to get the re-released model as I'd missed the original, hopefully Wingnuts continues to release second runs of previously OOP Kits.
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking great Lance, she is turning out beautifully. Looking forward to your next installment.
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Thank you Juan, the next installment has been delayed a bit by some self induced errors as I have had to remove some of the lines and linkages I installed on the fuselage sides to enable the side framework to be installed on the cockpit module. Simple logic had I thought ahead a bit further ........ :-[
Cheers,
Lance
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Wow, Lance! Some excellent detail work!
Gaz
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Many Thanks Gaz,
I hope to organize some time to do a bit more soon, real life has really put the brakes on any progress for the past week. :(
Cheers,
Lance
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Been following this for some time now Lance , you have come along way in your skills . Well done so far !
Teeri
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Thanks Terri, been a while since we've heard from you and I've been wondering where you'd disappeared to?
Cheers,
Lance
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Many Thanks Gaz,
I hope to organize some time to do a bit more soon, real life has really put the brakes on any progress for the past week. :(
Cheers,
Lance
No need to feel bad about that. I've been in a bit of a funk, myself. Not been paying attention to the forums as much as normal, and getting a bit morose.
Gaz
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With the exception of the seat belts and a couple of spare Parabellum Magazines in the Gunner's position the cockpit is complete. The push rods for the throttle, spark advance, and mixture control had to be added after the frame was assembled as well as the fuel line on the right side wall. I see by the photos that a bit of dusting is in order, I did some minor trimming of the top of one of the bulkheads earlier........ good old macro Mode!
(https://i.imgur.com/fFZiYWp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QwbrtfC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5rnEkEP.jpg)
The Radio, Gunner/Observer's bench seat, and the far rear portions of the flight controls were added after the frame was assembled as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/0OraR5e.jpg)
The fuselage was then dry fitted around the assembled cockpit module; as with most Wingnut Wings assemblies it fit beautifully!
(https://i.imgur.com/r204Sm9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MGmYmNS.jpg)
The fuselage has now been set aside for a while as I shift to the Lozenge Decals of the wings and tail plane for a change of pace!
Cheers,
Lance
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Lovely, Lance!
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Looking good Lance!
Guy
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Thanks Guy and Prze, I appreciate you looking in and commenting. On reviewing the photos this morning my question is does anyone have a line on a micro vacuum cleaner?? :o ::)
Cheers,
Lance
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No micro-vacuum cleaner I am afraid Lance. The leather of the seats and wood finish are completely realistic - wonderful finish. I especially like the wear pattern on the pilot's seat.
Stephen.
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Truly superb interior, Lance! Your detail work is absolutely brilliant. I'm really enjoying watching this one come together.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks Stephen and Bud,
I used Tamiya's Weathering Master Oil Pastel Packs (Soot and Mud) for the wear effects on the leather seat. The lozenge application is now slowly underway, I'll log some more photos when that's complete.
Cheers,
Lance
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Lance, to view your work is always a great pleasure!
The lozenge application is now slowly underway
Ha, the same on my side, really time consuming :(
Cheers,
Frank
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Interior looks great Lance. I am especially drawn to the cableing that you did for the throttle and fuel mixtures, very nice and perks up that part of the model. I will have to review this when I tackle my next LVG. Get ready for some real modeling excitement as you enter the lozenge stage. It's too bad there isn't a "cookie cutter" version for the LVG as it is quite a time consuming effort. Steady on, as they say.
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Mark,
Yes, I'm discovering more by the hour how long this step takes, and then there's a million rib tapes to follow! Modelling excitement at it's peak! :o
Cheers,
Lance
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Mark,
Yes, I'm discovering more by the hour how long this step takes, and then there's a million rib tapes to follow! Modelling excitement at it's peak! :o
Cheers,
Lance
Hang in there Lance: Remember, we're in this together. 8)
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Hi Lance
I remeber those rib tapes very fondly... 8) Worth it in the end and at that certain point when you realise "I've only got one to go" your smile should be recorded ;D.
Cheers
Alistair
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"when you realise "I've only got one to go" your smile should be recorded" ;D.
Alistair,
Great inspiration, I'll keep that firmly in mind!
Mark,
You bet; at least there's no rib tapes on a Voodoo! ::)
Cheers,
Lance
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Finally this step is complete, the lozenge and tapes are done!
The Aviattic Lozenge went on well as usual. It was applied over a coat of Future and once dried over night was trimmed with a fresh double edge razor blade. I used Aviattic's un-joined bolt width version and applied it per the aircraft in slightly trimmed 54 inch wide (scale) strips.
(https://i.imgur.com/NsNtB9G.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PMS8eiN.jpg)
The lozenge was given a coat of Future and, once thoroughly dry the rib tapes applied and again given one last coat of Future to seal them in place.
(https://i.imgur.com/LP703Sr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EY5L0It.jpg)
Next the wing markings will be applied and a few very light mist coats of a Buff/light brown filter, and final protective coat of semi-gloss to satin clear and the flying surfaces can be installed.
And yes, I did smile widely when the last rib tape was in place! :D :D :D
Cheers,
Lance
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Wow! Lance, that is a Macro compatible apply of Aviattic decals, much better than mine. Had some small trouble points, which I was not able to solve even with multiple applying of different softers.
One question, even it is a bit back in your report: how do you paint the leather of the seat? I like the satin gloss!
Cheers,
Frank
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Thank you Frank. For the seat I used Model Master Enamel "Burnt Sienna". Once dry I rub the wear areas like the edge of the cushion and arm rests with my fingers to achieve a gloss or semi gloss wear effect and then work the folds and depressions with Tamiya Weathering Master oil pastel using a combination of their "rust" and "soot". There's no sealer or satin overcoat, just the shine from rubbing the original flat paint.
Cheers,
Lance
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Getting better and better, Lance. The wings with the ribtapes give that certain something to the model.
Bye,
Manni
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Wonderful Lance - well deserving of a big smile!!! :) :) :)
Cheers
Alistair
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Lance, that seat looks like a worn catchers mit, superb!
Ryan
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Great work on the lozenge Lance. I'll bet that the excitement of putting that on had you on the edge of your seat...
Stephen.
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Manni, Alistair, Ryan and Stephen,
Thank you all for taking the time to look in and for your great comments. Regarding the decals the Lozenge wasn't bad however those rib tapes did get a bit dull, boring, and sleep inducing before the last one fell into place!
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi Lance:
The wings look great. Can't beat that Aviattic Lozenge. I am sure you are in the recovery stage letting everything settle down after that roller coaster ride of excitement and modeling madness. You're on the home stretch now. Looking forward to the next update.
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Looks very nice! I'm just picking up my D.VII build and with that have learned a great deal on Aviattic lozenge handling. Makes this even more impressive, very neat! :)
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Thank you Mark and Jeroen. Finding modelling time has been a bit of an (unsuccessful) struggle these past few days and tomorrow's more of the same. I'm hoping to get the few bits remaining into the cockpit and close up the fuselage real soon.
Cheers,
Lance
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Excellent work, Lance! This will be one first-rate build when complete, which I am very keen to see. Good luck! 8)
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Very nice work, the Lozenge-shading is also very convincing.
Servus
Bertl
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Thank you both! Bertl, nice to see you posting again, I thought maybe your motorcycle had carried you away!
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi Lance,
no, not my Italian Motorcycle was the reason :D........
Photobucket has spoiled the posting of pictures >:(
Servus
Bertl
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Beautiful lozenge, there, Lance! And some great interior details to fire up the imagination! Great work! Regards, Marc
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Those wings look beautiful!
Gaz
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Time for another update, this Build has slowed down considerably as real life continues to control the schedule.
The seat belts (HGW) were installed and "dirtied" up a bit with oil based pigments. All the ejector Pin marks are not visible once she's assembled:
(https://i.imgur.com/EeLdMX5.jpg)
The spare magazines for the rear Parabellum were installed along with the Observer/Gunner's seat belts as well:
(https://i.imgur.com/SF9PqHK.jpg)
The canvas ammo belts were done with strips of CDL rib tape decals:
(https://i.imgur.com/fNp2Miy.jpg)
Next came closing up the fuselage. As you can see here not much of all that cockpit detail remains visible .......
(https://i.imgur.com/6QAbAta.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nUu2Vsr.jpg)
The fuselage halves mated together quite nicely and since some filling was required on the belly portion I did a bit on the dorsal portion as well. Some of the filled in recessed panel lines were re-done with RB Productions Scriber tool.
(https://i.imgur.com/SOdi0gQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dfpv1IO.jpg)
Once filling and sanding were completed the fuselage got a coat of my Wood Base mix of Tamiya Acrylics
(https://i.imgur.com/hOvNfGj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/59ouus2.jpg)
I've now started the oil wood graining using Winsor & Newton Winton #34 Raw Sienna oil colour. I'm trying a new technique using "Post It" markers to mask the panels rather then continuous graining front to back.
(https://i.imgur.com/hiXB1JQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JJTyrmx.jpg)
Last, I gave the fabric areas several lightly misted coats of a "Buff" coloured filter to conform with the descriptions of a "light brown over varnish" on many of these aircraft. I used a base of Tamiya's R20a thinner and their X-55 Deck Tan.I like the toned down effect on the Lozenge.
(https://i.imgur.com/YYrT2j1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LdfCv5R.jpg)
Good old Macro Mode, I've gone back and repaired the lifting corner on the aileron decal!
Presently I'm watching the oil streaking dry before I can tackle the next series of panels. I'll be starting some of the smaller bits next to fill in the waiting time.
Cheers,
Lance
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Beautiful work, Lance!
Cheers,
Bud
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Great update and progress Lance. Looking really good. :D
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Thanks for looking and commenting Guys. So far, so good as the saying goes! :)
Cheers,
Lance
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Again such a clean and careful build, this will be again an impressive model!
Cheers,
Frank
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Looks wonderful Lance. Feels so familiar!
Interestingly I noticed today that the wood work on my LVG has darkened since completing - I have no idea why but I quite like it.
Also of note WNW recommends alternating horizontal wood grain with vertical wood grain between adjoining panels. But if you look at the replica, as photographed by Jamo, the grain all runs in one direction - from nose to tail. So that is the way I did it and it feels right. I also noted on some builds, in the customer gallery on the WNW site, very strong representations of the panel lines - some even showing staining between adjacent panels along the panel lines. This felt wrong to me as, again, Jamo's photos show that even at full scale the joints are very subtle and hard to see - as is the grain for that matter.
I look forward to your build unfolding further - on evidence to date it is going to be a very impresive rendition - of that I'm sure!
Cheers
Alistair
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Thanks Alistair, It's neat that we have a sort of very mini Group Build going here!
I too considered the "grain direction" on finishing the fuselage wood work; in the end I decided to not alternate horizontal and vertical panels however I am staggering the direction between the panels a few degrees to ensure an impression of definite individual panel construction. I've finished the one side of the fuselage as you can see in the two following photos, I'm not 100% pleased with the results but the grain should become less "graphic" with the planned over coats, particularly some clear yellow I think. What do you think? ........ be brutally honest if you wish! Here's this morning's photos with the right side finished:
(https://i.imgur.com/k7X0r1f.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/m4Jfqat.jpg)
I'm trying to keep the joins between the panels subtle as well; most of the photos don't indicate a really noticeable contrast at the joins.
Cheers,
Lance
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Not sure Lance as I do not know how much the clear orange varnish will enhance the differences in the paint. Also I am not sure how true the colours are in the photo - they can be very different in natural light on the real object. Could I suggest that if you are not sure you try out a test on some scrap plastic?
Only a suggestion.
Stephen.
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Catching up on all of the builds I have missed in the last couple of Months. Your LVG is Stunning. The engine work, interior Mods, painting of the leather seats etc. are gorgeous Love the work you have done with the wood graining, and Lozenge wings/markings. This will be another Stunning addition to your collection for sure!
RAGIII
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Thanks for your very generous comments Rick. Stephen, I'm planning a coat of clear yellow on top of this and a final semi gloss clear coat. By way of a test I plan to do just the vertical Stabilizer which can always be stripped if it doesn't work out. More to follow.
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi Lance:
Catching up here on your build. To be brutall honest eh? It seems a bit too yellow for my taste. Maybe it could be toned down a bit with some Smoke or a thinned mixture with some orange to tone down the yellow. But; as others have stated, it could be the lighting, the computer screen color representation, not sure. I like the grain you have achieved and the panel line demarkation is nice. I know on the actual aircraft they aren't that visible, but; it is a model and I do like the "slight" demarkation. Sadly, the interior work pretty much disappears once buttoned up, but as you say: "I know it's in there." As to the color, as mentioned and I am sure you already know, experiment on an a piece of plastic.
Keep the meter pegged to the right of zero Lance, it's gettin there.
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Hi Lance
Help - I'm sure as not an expert in these things. It is all to your own eye. For my eye on your model - too much grain and too much shift in grain. I reckon plywood has only two ways to go - vertical or horizontal. I reckon the LVG would have had only horizontal grain. The photos of the FMF LVG by Jamo support that.
From my ship modeling days, working at 1:64 and using real boxwood, holly and pear - the grain is almost invisible but you know it is wood. That, at 1:32, is the same equation - it looks like wood but only just so. An impresion of it. That is they way I'll keep doing it with these magnificent flying machines. But I know others here push the grain effect. I am now doing woodwork on a Hannover and when my daughter finds my camera >:( I will post.
But heck - what you are doing with your rendition plus what I'm seeing from Prez makes me feel like a flake in comparison!
The whole woodwork thing is a great topic to discuss!
Cheers,
Alistair
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Mark, I agree with your comments regarding demarcation between the panels. Alistair, your comments regarding grain are too true; I tried to reduce the grain effect and contrast hoping to achieve a slight contrast between panels vice "within the panel" if that makes sense. I hope a clear yellow coat will reduce the grain pattern within individual panels even more but we'll see....... As for the overall yellow appearance the British Report on the natural wood finish of the fuselage on 7243/18 describes it as a transparent yellow varnish finish which resulted in a "light brown appearance". The grain in my Macro photos is more pronounced then I see in real life here and I'm hoping the overall light brown effect is there. Depending on the yellow over coat effect I may have to darken the whole thing as Mark suggests.
Modelling madness at it's peak but most enjoyable at this stage. That may change if I have to remove all this paint and start over!
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi Lance
It will pan out for sure. And I'll be looking in to see how good it looks very soon. I envy your wings and will certainly envy your fuselage - still like to think of it as a hull!- when it is finished.
I have those orange and yellow clear coats by Tamiya but haven't used them yet - time to experiment...
Cheers'
Alistair
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Alistair,
A word of caution regarding the Tamiya Clear Coats; consider thinning them more then the amount you'd thin regular Tamiya colors, they are pretty "gooey" in my experience and very easy to over apply. Thin mist coats work best.
Cheers,
Lance
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Alistair,
A word of caution regarding the Tamiya Clear Coats; consider thinning them more then the amount you'd thin regular Tamiya colors, they are pretty "gooey" in my experience and very easy to over apply. Thin mist coats work best.
Cheers,
Lance
Lance speaks the truth.
Once you get them thinned properly they are fabulous.
Ryan
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Alistair,
A word of caution regarding the Tamiya Clear Coats;
And be sure to wipe the threads of the bottle and cap if you ever want to use the paint again. You'll need a blowtorch to get the lid off otherwise.
Or a footlong pair of channel lock pliers, but remember to focus on turning them as opposed to squeezing them.
Many adventure have been had with these as us WWII guys use them only occasionally.
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Looking better and better, Lance. Great work on losenge and wooden fuselage. It looks so much different to the cmouflaged one I am building.
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Thank You Prze. I hope to publish some updated photos of the fuselage with the decals completed soon, the strips along the side/top and side/ bottom seams are a time consuming step and model desk time is limited presently. More to follow soon.
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi Lance,
Try thinning the 'Tamiya' sealers with 'Mr. Colour' leveling thinners. It mixes OK and helps to thin the sealers and prevent 'pooling' when applied,
I find it better than thinning with 'Tamiya' X20A,
Mike
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Thanks for the hint Mike. Ironically I had a bottle of the stuff in my hand a few days ago at the Hobby Store I visit when in the city (3 hours away!) and wasn't sure of it's qualities so I didn't buy it! I'll get some on my next visit.
Cheers,
Lance
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Time for another small update and some photos. It's going well but slowly, lots of real world delays and pressures on this Build.
I decided to leave the woodwork as is and not add the Tamiya Clear Yellow or Orange top coat. The more I looked at the finish the more it appealed, it's quite light and a lot more "wood" then "yellow" in color then the previous photos indicate.
I prepared the struts, panels, and covers for later in the Build sequence and added some dark brown wash to dirty them up a bit and provide contrast to their features. Next will come a coat or two of Future to prepare the struts for their decals and there's still various details such as the bungees and tires to paint on the landing gear assembly.
(https://i.imgur.com/Zo2EAds.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/K518nih.jpg)
The fuselage received several coats of Future and after a few days to cure the decals were applied. Those seam decals along the joins of the fuselage were challenging and took some time to complete. They were applied with generous amounts of Micro Set and once dried were further treated with a coat of Micro Sol. A sealing coat of Future completed this stage.
(https://i.imgur.com/stLMnQK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hn9yPlP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qFBakR3.jpg)
I posed the engine in place to get a preview of where this little devil's going to end up.........
(https://i.imgur.com/4dWWS6X.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oEte4Ci.jpg)
Next comes painting in the fuselage details around the steps, a tiny bit more weathering, and then the cabanes and landing gear can be added. I feel like it's about to start moving along a bit quicker now.
Cheers,
Lance
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That wood fuselage looks even more convincing with the seam transfers - it could really pass as wood. The radiator also looks truly metallic - your paint finishes really are among the best Lance. In all another real masterpiece is coming together - I am straining to see the finished model.
Stephen.
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Thank you very much Stephen, your comments are much appreciated yet again!
The radiator is Alclad II "Dull Aluminum", they make great products. The strips along the fuselage seams puzzled me a little initially, I thought they were wood strips however after examining the Wingnut Wings Photo Archives and Jamo's excellent photos of the TVAL Replica I think they are fabric like those used on wing ribs. I'd love to know the answer to this little puzzle!
Cheers,
Lance
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This is coming along nicely Lance and nice to see you back on it after a short hiatis. THe wood Honey Tone is really nice Gives it an outhentic look, the checerboard decals are a nice touch as well.
Not sure what the Seam Decals are. Overall a great job and looking forward to seeing you pull it all together.
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That looks fanastic Lance. I wasn't sure about the pale wood at first but you've sold me. My LVG remains dark on darker - but that's Ok.
It is well worth while - as we both did - getting that horizontal rib painted (or is yours a decal?) in a slight contrast along the length of the fuselage - top and bottom. I looked at many paint jobs that missed that or didn't bother and that let's it down.
With all of other pre-preps you can't be far away from finishing. As others have commented before getting a bit of dihedral uplift on the wings also suits - they tend to lie flat or even sag with this models fitments and that doesn't look quite right. I just propped them up slightly with books during the glue curing process - probably only a 2 degree dihedral if that but better than flat. But I'm sure you have that covered.
Cheers
Alistair
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Hi Lance, This is coming along great. Well done. The seam decals are representative of the fabric joint strips that the real a/c had. They are there to reinforce the play edges. Seen them in real life on the Shuttleworth plane and in photos of the Memorial Flight example and TVAL. Regards, Pete in RI
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Mark,
Thanks for the comments, as I said the light finish sort of "grew" on me. The photos show a variety of overall finishes from light to dark; I chose the light based on the description of 7243/18 in the Duelist Instruction Booklet. One of our members has solved the seam tapes puzzle, Dave in Dubai has closely examined the survivor in the Brussels Army Museum and confirms them as being fabric tapes doped a "brick red color". The photos as I say show a variety of colors so I went with the lighter side of the choices as offered in the Kit and also used on this scheme by Ray Rimell in the original release Build article of this one in Windsock Worldwide of March/April 2009. Thank you for that information Dave!
Alistair,
As I said above I used the kit decals for the tapes vs. paint. Thanks for the reminder on the dihedral, that step is getting very near. The Jane's "Fighting Aircraft of WW.I" puts the lower wing dihedral at 2 degrees so thats what I'll try for using your "propping" method as well.
Cheers,
Lance
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Pete,
I replied to the earlier comments as yours was arriving. Thanks for the comments and the additional verification of the nature of those tapes. That's the beauty of this Forum; we have a wealth of info, experience, and informed perspective available through the sharing nature of our little club, what a great experience and resource! :)
Cheers,
Lance
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Very sharp, Lance! I like the light wood tones contrast with the black/white markings. Having done the green edges on the Jasta 18 Fokker D.VII with decals, I can sympathatize with the edge tapes. The results are very rewarding, though!
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Thanks for your very kind comments Jeroen. Yes, those edge tapes are a bit of a "test" but once completed they add a lot to the model.
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking Stunning Lance! I think you have made very good educated guesses as to the colors. It all works for me!
RAGIII
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Wonderful results, look forward to more progress pics !!
Ed
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Thanks Rick and Ed. Another day with no bench time to be had; I need to get a grip on my priorities and put "real life issues" in their proper place......... :-\ I'm hoping to get at this with a vengeance tomorrow!
Cheers,
Lance
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Looks great Lance!
Cheers, Gary
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Thanks very much Gary, and good to hear from you again! :)
Cheers,
Lance
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Great looking LVG, Lance. I like the light finish of the wood. Looks great, looking forward when the wings will be attached.
Bye,
Manni
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Thanks for looking and for your comment Manni. I'm very pleased with the light wood finish as well, it's the first time I've attempted it. As for the wings, yes, I too am looking forward to getting her all together, it's been a slow Build!
Cheers,
Lance
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That's looking really good Lance and I'm super impressed with the subtle wood finish effect which looks very true to life.
The LVG is one I've been tempted to do several times but something else always gets in the way. I'm really enjoying your build.
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Looking good Lance - this one is in my stash so I'm following your build with great interest,
You mentioned 'decals' for the panel seams - I assume not specific seam decals?
Mike
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Thank you both for your comments! Mike, the Kit includes decal strips for the longitudinal seams on the fuselage. The fuselage is engineered a little differently then on most kits, it is in four pieces as opposed to the standard two piece "clam shell" design. On the real aircraft these strips are heavily doped fabric and a study of reference photos indicates they vary from a contrasting darker color then the natural wood fuselage (reddish brown on the Belgian survivor) to a very light color on others. The Kit strips are a natural wood color.
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi Lance,
Thanks for the heads up on the panel decals.
I have to admit I've only opened the box to check the contents when it first arrived.
I hadn't realized that the tan strip decals were for panels - I assumed they were alternative rib tapes!!
I know better now,
Thanks,
Mike
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Lance,
Very impressive work to date my old friend. Love that wood graining.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Thanks for your most welcome comments Mike and Greg. I'm posting another update as I've made a bit more progress in several small sessions since the last.
I tossed a little oil around the engine compartment however it completely disappeared later when I added the engine and the upper panels.
(https://i.imgur.com/lgOJQtx.jpg)
Next came pre rigging of the cabane strut cross braces followed by the tachometer, the cabane struts, and the wind screen. The metal upper rear engine cowling was added as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/PUGPMsU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JvsMe3Y.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9g1AKZd.jpg)
The pilots single Spandau was added last.
(https://i.imgur.com/5ua26Yz.jpg)
At this point the upper wing radiator section had it's eight rigging eyelets installed.
(https://i.imgur.com/EtaBSJY.jpg)
The radiator section was then attached using 5 Minute Epoxy, the fit was excellent with the radiator line from the rear of the engine falling into place nicely as well. This was followed by completion of the cross rigging wires which took some time and more patience. Big arthritic fingers prove no small limiting factors in the confined areas but the results were good in the end result!
(https://i.imgur.com/2n17vPk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1HLScw7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nQ4Y2Lp.jpg)
Finally the fuselage got it's first coat of Satin overcoat using Vallejo Polyurethane Varnish applied by brush. I'm going to leave the landing gear off until it's fully rigged so now it's on to the wings assembly and rigging. I have to add that the fit of this kit is very nice, only clean up of paint residue as usual with Wingnut Wings Kits is required to get perfect fits although the upper engine panels did require some minor "adjustments".
Now it's on to the wings.
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking fantastic Lance. She is a beauty.
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Thank you Juan, hopefully this Build continues without any major challenges. So far all's going suspiciously well ........ ???
Cheers,
Lance
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This looks amazing Lance! The fine detail is most impressive and the subtle wood effect just sets up the whole project perfectly.
Simply outstanding!
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Thank you Dave. Apparently my previous comment about things going "suspiciously well" angered the Gods of Modelling as I had a bit of a disaster a few hours later which I'll post the details of tomorrow. The repairs are underway and hopefully will cover the results of my carelessness. Never to old to learn they say ......... ::)
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking fantastic Lance. Your wood effect has really grown on me but I remain happy having gone for dark wood on my LVG (no going back now anyway). Really like your subtle weathering on the metal panels - I wonder if there should be a tips section in the forum solely devoted to this art as it is beyond me and is another layer of modelling that I'd like to learn.
I think, like me, you had some trouble getting the hinged vents to properly seat into the fuselage - they end up slightly raised. Mine worked OK on one side (port) and not so well on the other but not really visible to the naked eye.
Please tell me that the Spandau is an aftermarket part! It is superb in every detail and I sure can't achieve that with the kit version - just done one for the Hannover and it is nowhere near as good.
I'm sure you'll correct your mishap and I look forward to seeing the close out of one really great LVG rendition.
Cheers,
Alistair
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Looking superb, Lance!
:)vB ;)
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Your LVG is continuing to be one of your stunning builds Lance! Whatever disaster struck I am confident you will work your way through to a beautiful result!
RAGIII
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Thanks for the very generous and encouraging comments Guys.
Alistair, the Spandau is the Czech Master brass barrel and cooling jacket installed on the Kit Breech assembly. I really like their product although the Gas Patch version is also really nice. I use either depending on what's on hand and other then the muzzles the Wingnut Kit version with it's PE jacket is well done as well. I find the latter is hit and miss when drilling out the muzzle on the barrel so usually use them only when the gun is mainly hidden on the model. This one is finished in a mix of Alclad Airframe Aluminum and Gun Metal as I find their Gun Metal too dark.
I'll be working on the "fix" for yesterday's foul up today, but there's close to a foot of snow in the driveway to be dealt with this morning. Winter has finally arrived in the Canadian Great White North! :(
More to follow later today.
Cheers,
Lance
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So, I thought I'd post a photo of yesterday's tomfoolery on my desk, I'm sure it happens to all of us however I am still mystified by this one! If I had to put a title on this post I'd call it "Mister Bean Builds the LVG"! :-[ :-\
There I was happily drilling and gluing in Bob's Buckles eyelets on the wings when I discovered the wing was stuck to the desk work surface ......... When I lifted it off I discovered that a "glob" of CA had somehow been deposited on the matt and the result was the removal of several finishing layers of varnish and filter along with half the national marking. I cannot for the life of me determine how the glue got there but there's no doubt WHO the ham fist was that did the deed!.
(https://i.imgur.com/bCpOGkn.jpg)
Not a pretty sight! I was fortunate in that I was able to carefully scrape the glue off without damaging the underlying Lozenge decal and carefully sand down the excess once completely dry. After a panic search of the decal spares folder I found a cross of the same dimensions. I've got the decal on now and will be spraying the light brown filter later today and hopefully all will blend together. Then for a final top coat and I hope seamless repair. I'm no stranger to disaster on the Bench but this one is truly a memory moment! Modelling excitement continues to surge on Bean's Bench! Repair photos to follow later.
Cheers,
Lance
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Oh Lance - I thought that I was the one who made blunders on that scale!! You are ceetainly lucky that the damage was as limited as you describe, but still something whhich you would be better off without.
I do hope that the replacement transfer will conceal the damage and that the wing wil look as good as ever when you finish. Such a first class model too.
Stephen.
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It is indeed a myster Lance how stuff like that happens. The modeling Gremlins no doubt having a bit of sport at your expense. The recovery process you describe sounds like a winner and looking forward to seeing the fix. As Chris would say: "Always one step away from disaster."
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Ouch Lance, but you are the master Houdini of fixer uppers, so I see a great recovery. ;D
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Thanks for the words of encouragement Guys!
Hopefully all will go well. Now it's off for episode two, "Mr. Bean drives the snow blower". Hopefully the gremlin's work is confined to the model desk! :-\
Cheers,
Lance
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Thanks for the words of encouragement Guys!
Hopefully all will go well. Now it's off for episode two, "Mr. Bean drives the snow blower". Hopefully the gremlin's work is confined to the model desk! :-\
Cheers,
Lance
I have to admit to having similar things happen to me with no real idea of HOW! Some of you might remember My Salmson build when somehow I got super glue on my finger and lifted paint and clear coat on the fuselage. Glad you have the decals to replace the damage!
RAGIII
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Are you sure were not related Rick? :o!
The fix is complete and went very well. here's a couple of shots before I go back to where I was 2 days ago!
(https://i.imgur.com/Irdgpvu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Png9CSY.jpg)
There's a bit of rough finish where I would have liked to have sanded more however I was concerned about damaging the Lozenge decals. I can live with this result!
Cheers,
Lance
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Outstanding recovery Lance! Looks great to me!!
RAGIII
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Nothing to worry about there Lance. I am sure that if you do not tell anyone about it, we will not either!
Stephen.
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Great save Lance. Looking forward to your progress without any more side trips to what the heckville.
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Good job Lance!
I get one of those on just about every build...
Guy
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Nice recovery Lance:
Can't even tell where the casualty was. Hopefully, that's the end of the gremlins.
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Great recovery from yhat small decal disaster.
And the fuselage with the cabane section looks gorgeous, too.
It will be a stunner, Lance, I am sure.
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Oh Lance, what a great project! You try again to invite me to the WNW with such great details .... and then ... I'm gasping!
But the theory was confirmed again:
Accidents in model building can't be avoided, it happens for sure.
The difference between a beginner and a master modeler is the handling after that - you are a true Master!
This will be a fantastic LVG!
Cheers,
Frank
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(http://laoblogger.com/images/get-out-of-jail-free-card-clip-art-8.jpg)
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Thanks All for your comments and hopefully that's the only disaster for this Build over with!
von Buckle, what a thoughtful and appropriate gift! I'll keep it close at hand as my record proves I need a lot of help!
Cheers,
Lance
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Great save there Lance. As Frank says - the difference is holding your breathe and figuring out how to fix. A master modelling outcome and your LVG is back on track.
One way I now try avoid such incidents is to buy a ream of A4 paper from the Supermarket and place a sheet under every modelling action - paint, glue, decal - then screw up the sheet and throw away after the action. A kind of soft tip but it seems to work even if it is a waste of paper! But it gets rid of random glue or paint that finds its way to where you don't want it.
Cheers
Alistair
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Alistair,
Thank you for commenting and for the inspiration; I'll have to look into some version of your recommended fix, I do have a roll of light weight painters masking paper I may try .......... In the interim I've got the main struts and upper wing installed, really starting to move forward now!
Cheers,
Lance
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Another update with the main structure assembly more or less complete. First the lower wings were drilled, eyelets installed, and rigging wires all attached. I added 36 Gage Nickel Chromium wire eyelets to 4 GasPatch Type C Turnbuckles for the lower wing root attachment points.
(https://i.imgur.com/Xqd3ZLx.jpg)
The wings were installed using 5 Minute Epoxy, propped up, and left to set over night.
(https://i.imgur.com/qi5atBE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8ZbNlvd.jpg)
The lower strut connections were added using the same glue to allow a bit of "wiggle" time and the upper wing dry fitted to align the struts. Once dry the second upper wing followed.
(https://i.imgur.com/2w6Ku7U.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xdWZxDy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SUWMso6.jpg)
........ and finally she's a biplane!
(https://i.imgur.com/FzXGvQs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/l3YE1Pu.jpg)
Next comes the rigging and once that's completed I'll add the landing gear.
Cheers,
Lance
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Your usual excellent work and outstand results Lance!
RAGIII
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Thanks Rick, it's always such a great feeling when that upper wing is successfully part of the structure! :)
Cheers,
Lance
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Wow, outstanding result, Lance. This is a real beauty. Everything matches perfect, the light wood tones and the stripes....wunderbar das alles mein Herr!
Bye,
Manni
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Looking superb, Lance!
:) ;)
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Von B and Manni,
Thanks for looking and commenting.
Rigging is now underway with the victim mounted in the Magic Third Hand device.
(https://i.imgur.com/KJYF7gw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4NvZwNp.jpg)
The first step is the main strut cross braces which are being done with Modelkasten elastic thread. The main structural rigging will follow using mono fishing line (Maxima Chameleon 0.12mm) attached to the lower wing fittings earlier.
(https://i.imgur.com/vb5c1qG.jpg)
The dreaded rigging stage which I actually enjoy......... as long as it goes well!
Cheers,
Lance
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Looks stunning Lance, will be on her feet before we know it. Great build all-around.
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That is looking really good Lance. As usual I thoroughly approve of your jigs to support the wings while they dry out!
Stephen.
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Lance, this will be again a great model! I really like your detail shots, because in those macros every detail looks real: The fabric, the wood, the strut mounting. Simply fantastic.
Cheers,
Frank
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Thanks once again for the comments and compliments Gents. The rigging is progressing nicely, if a bit slow as has been the entire Build! Somewhere soon in this sequence I'll have to take some time to start carving the propeller. I've already got the blanks ready to carve and in fact used them to block up the lower wings when they were attached.
Cheers,
Lance
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Very fine progress. And enjoy the rigging - my favourite stage, too. And like you - when it goes well :-)
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Looking good - very good. I too am into epoxy for wing settings now. As you say, it gives wriggle room and near bomb proof once set. I use Epiglass Epiglue - a marine product and the best IMO. I do not like working with it smell wise but unbeatable otherwise.
And I'd sure like one of those Third Hand mechanisms to complete the rigging procedure! Tryed to contact the guy who used to make them but no response...if you have any leads...?
Cheers
A
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splendid recovery, superb build. watching (and learning) even though i don't currently have plans to build one of these.
that jig is also interesting. home made? i may try to make one out of internet server rails, i have a lot of steel rails left over from work. right now the only use i have for them is keeping the neighbor's cat from sleeping on my aloe vera plant (posts, no place to lie down).
i am a fan of jigs.
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I ordered the third hand some time back and it's a really well designed and sturdy piece of kit.
Kronos Designs (Facebook page)
email: [email protected]
Mike
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Almost completed and looking great, decal incident was perfectly fixed. I agree with all the positive comments.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Thank you all for commenting. The Magic Hand is a real winner in my experience, my favorite tool. I'm not sure if the supplier still sells them but as Mike has said here just Google Kronos Designs and there's two contact addresses on their Facebook page. It is the ultimate rigging assistant and I've used it for the smallest (DH.2) in my collection to the Wingnut Wings AEG. Highly recommended if you can locate it.
Cheers,
Lance
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ooh. found it. that IS cool. NEED!
thanks guys!
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Jeff,
Let us all know what the price is these days, I paid slightly over $100 USD two years ago, shipping included. Pricey as I say but worth every cent! I use it on every build for construction, touch up painting, and for the complete rigging procedure.
Cheers,
Lance
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I must admit that I paid a little more for my o.o.p. copy of the LVG, but I do not regret it at all when I see in such an impressive way what can be done with this kit. Here’s another true masterpiece in the making and I am keen on seeing her on her wheels. Btw: Are you going to use the kit‘s wheels or the Aviattic resin ones?
Best regards
Andreas
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Thank you Andreas. I was very happy when the Kit was reissued as a Duelist Release and had been looking for one at a reasonable price without success for quite a while. I'm using the Kit wheels, I didn't know Aviattic had resin versions?
Cheers,
Lance
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I would have bet on it, but I can't find them at the moment... Aviattic now has a dropdown menu on their homepage that only works when you browse with the PC mouse over it - and that doesn't work on my iPad. Anyway, I am sure the bird will look great with their kit's wheels on.
Best regards
Andreas
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I would have bet on it, but I can't find them at the moment... Aviattic now has a dropdown menu on their homepage that only works when you browse with the PC mouse over it - and that doesn't work on my iPad. Anyway, I am sure the bird will look great with their kit's wheels on.
Best regards
Andreas
Andreas,
I checked their site just now, the only wheels I could find were 65mm for the SPAD XIII and weighted wheels for the Gotha and AEG. I've actually substituted ones of identical size and almost identical type for this model from my spares box. I had a problem with painting the Kit ones and ruined them trying to remove the paint..... another lesson learned!
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi Lance,
I use the 'Aviattic' wheels for my recent SPAD X.III - good product as you'd expect from Richard,
Mike
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I went through my stash being sure to possess those LVG wheels and all I found were the SPAD wheels and one single pair of the Gotha wheels. Sorry for that, something went wrong with my memory; maybe I once hold the latter ones, asking myself why I hadn’t ordered two pairs and thought „well, maybe they fit my LVG...“
Fingers crossed for a good fit of the substituted wheels!
Andreas
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Love it Lance!
The lozenge looks stunning..
Guy
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Well done, this is coming along nicely. Will have to go back to page 1 and get caught up on the build. Regards Pete in RI
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Thanks for looking and for your comments Gents. Still plodding along and hope to get an update done in the next couple of days .......
Cheers,
Lance
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Made some significant progress today and thought another update, likely the last before the final, was in order.
She's a biplane, up on her feet, and rigging is complete including the flight control cables.
(https://i.imgur.com/yjHE7VD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5Xm6yVM.jpg)
I still have to add the Parabellum in the Observers Cockpit, the exhaust manifold, the scratch built radiator shutter control handle, and some weathering. With that completed I'll start working on the hand carved prop to complete the Build. Very last will come some final touch ups including some more sealing of the rib tapes with a final top coat of satin/semi gloss.
(https://i.imgur.com/5zkZCH1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ehnfv6E.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rr6LEPe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/npg2YY9.jpg)
A good one day session at the Bench this week and she'll be a "wrap"!
Cheers,
Lance
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The start to the rigging is looking terrific!
RAGIII
PS: I think I must have been posting as you uploaded the new photos. Obviously I need to amend my comments to Looks awesome completely rigged and on its gear !
RAGIII
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Masterpiece!
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Wow,
Incredible Lance.. what a beauty..
Guy
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Simply amazing! From the Tarnstoff decals which are absolutely perfect down to the light taping of the fuselage edges and the (replacement?) wheels -- a pure joy to look at. I also love the paint chipping on the metal parts.
Best regards
Andreas
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Many Thanks Guys, I'm flattered and not entirely sure it deserves such generous compliments. I took another close look at it last night and it certainly will need some touch ups, all the handling during the last week or so left it's marks here and there.
Cheers,
Lance
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I am waiting in anticipation to see the completed model photos Lance. That model is well up to your usual very high standard, whatever you think about the handling issues.
Stephen.
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Thanks Stephen, it isn't in too bad shape. The usual lifting of the lozenge decals in places along the edges, a few minor scratches, and some edges where the paint has worn off a bit, nothing major thankfully!
Cheers,
Lance
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Lance, you're a credit to our community. Always inspiring, always workmanlike and always informative.
Excellent work. ;)
vB
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What else can be said that already has not been said, beautiful work Lance.
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von B and Juan,
Thank you both, not sure I deserve such nice comments but it's both welcome and inspiring to receive them! :)
Cheers,
Lance
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Another step closer to a "Completed Model". Today Mr.. Bean carved a propeller, and only cut one finger, thankfully a minor abrasion but lots of red stuff on the bench, MvR would have been proud!
Here's step #1, the rough outline carving on the Blank done some time back:
(https://i.imgur.com/rQc9UeZ.jpg)
Here's the first pass at cutting the full profile:
(https://i.imgur.com/APJW28C.jpg)
.... and here's the two sides with primary sanding completed:
(https://i.imgur.com/LPx9DmV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ypz6Dfd.jpg)
The Kit's prop has a very thin hub so I elected to salvage one from the spares box. I may rummage around tomorrow for a larger one but this should do in a pinch!
(https://i.imgur.com/HDTOJDH.jpg)
...... and here it is ready for staining, sealing, and an Axial decal.
(https://i.imgur.com/x1uDcWR.jpg)
Now it's on to the exhaust manifold, Parabellum, and a few other small parts.
Cheers,
Lance
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Superb Lance - a masterpiece and this is certainly my favourite WNW build to date. I'm going to have to try this wood carving one day - I have a huge stockpile of wood from my ship modelling days - what timbers did you use here?
Cheers
A
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Alistair,
Thanks for looking and commenting. I'm still using wood veneer from a sample pack I bought years ago and the sheets aren't labelled. Only about 25% of the stock is useable and I'm running out of good straight grain and hard wood stock. I just choose the right color contrast from what's useable but will have to go shopping for more soon.
Cheers,
Lance
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First class carving of the propellor Lance. I too must try using veneer for propellors if I build any more large scale models.
Stephen.
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Oh Lance, the LVG biplane is a beauty!
but lots of red stuff on the bench
I hope you recover soon.
Yes, can be a bit dangerous trying to cut hard wood with sharp blades, that's why I prefer a carpenter's plane and sanding.
Your dark wood seems to be mahogany. This I tried but in 1/48 it has to much grain, so I do not use it. Some dark fruitwood is a better replacement.
If you need another prop hub - Proper Plane sell also hubs alone.
This will be a great model after all you careful work on it! :-*
Cheers,
Frank
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Thanks Stephen and Frank. I hope to locate a source for more veneer on line, some of that "pear" that you use, Frank, would be perfect. For the laminated props with a very high contrast I can source light pine stock locally but as you point out mahogany, the darker shade I have, often has too much and a very "open" grain.
Cheers,
Lance
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Beautiful prop Lance. The icing on the cake to an excellent build!
RAGIII
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Hi Lance
For wood supplies try here: https://www.syrenshipmodelcompany.com/milled-lumber.php
Boxwood is an amazing timber - very tight grained and brilliant for carving - probably the very best there is. You could mix this in with Swiss Pear for contrast?
Cheers
Alistair
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Beautiful woodwork. And the real thing. It's impressive!
regards,
Ivo
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Thanks Rick and Ivo. Alistair, I really appreciate the link to the wood source, just what I have been looking for! It's book marked and I'll be placing an order soon, will let you know how it works out!
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking great Lance, well done. I should drag mine out of the stash and continue with it, been over a year since. Regards Pete in RI
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I hope to locate a source for more veneer on line, some of that "pear" that you use, Frank, would be perfect.
Lance, I was hoping too that someone knows a source on your side of the ocean ;) I only know sources in Europe, but the veneer packs are often huge and heavy so end up with high shipping costs.
The source Alistair posted, seems to be a good one. Boxwood is available as veneer, something I have not found in Europe, and also in different thickness. May be you need in 1/32 more thick layers than me. Pear available also in all forms.
Another great stuff seems to be "Alaskan Yellow Cedar", a wood which is not available here (I found something on ebay for guitars, but shipment from canada). I found a great description here (for the german capable readers). It is easy workable and very uniform.
https://www.holzvomfach.de/fachwissen-holz/holz-abc/yellow-cedar/
Lance, you should give it a try too. Please let me/us know, if this wood is a option for our propellers.
Cheers,
Frank
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Thank you Pete, very much appreciated!
Frank,
I'm going to place an order soon, probably with a sample of the tree types you mention. I'll do a post and some photos when it arrives. I th ink this may be a great source, especially for this side of the world!
Cheers,
Lance
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That prop is brilliant!
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Terrific progress Lance! You are truly a master modeller.
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Inspired by your prop, Lance! Magic!! :o
vB
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I quote Bob, so many of us are making wooden props, I would like to try as well and your technique is really interesting!
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I agree with the above comments: stunning propeller! And the model is really beautiful.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Thank you all for your far too generous compliments, very much appreciated! We had Family visiting over the weekend so no progress was made, I'll get an update done tomorrow hopefully.
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This is the last update for this Build, I finished her this afternoon. Here's some photos of the completed Axial prop, the Parabellum, and the minor additions such as the exhaust and flare rack.
First one completed shot:
(https://i.imgur.com/ad0mW31.jpg)
and now a few details completed.......
(https://i.imgur.com/O2BJ26s.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KGemQ0H.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/30xxU90.jpg)
The Parabellum was completed using the Kit version with the PE cooling jacket, the magazine support rod was added using stainless guitar wire.
(https://i.imgur.com/KYhKkMN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RYu7aOO.jpg)
Here's the flare rack installed........
(https://i.imgur.com/fLA1Xrk.jpg)
and finally the exhaust was added.
(https://i.imgur.com/tMVC0vh.jpg)
And that's all there is, I'll get some photos up on Completed models tomorrow. A nice Kit and a classic I'm happy to add to my collection. Not the easiest of their Kits but a slow and steady pace kept it a pleasant one!
Cheers,
Lance
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Absolutely splendid in finish and to watch.
I cant do wood props...
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Wonderful Lance in all respects. A great build log and a gem of an outcome at conclusion! Thank you for sharing and congratulations - I love this plane.
My only confusion is the magazine on the parabellum - completely different from the kit one on my version - is it an after market version? No matter what it looks very good!
Cheers
Alistair
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As always I enjoyed watching another of your great builds come together!
RAGIII
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Lance,
Wow what a wonderful ride this thread has been my old friend. Outstanding Model Artistry!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
PS: What's the next Opus to be ?
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Absolutely splendid in finish and to watch.
I cant do wood props...
Steve, Thanks for the kind comments. As for the wood props, from the skills you've demonstrated here it would be a "cake walk" for you!
Cheers,
Lance
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Much appreciated Rick and Greg, means a lot coming from you Guys!
Alistair, the Parabellum is from the Kit sprues with the rolled Photo Etch cooling jacket used. The magazine is different then the one on the "generic" WNW Armament Sprue that also came with the Kit. My Kit was the Duelist one so maybe it's an add on to the original kit. If you have that version (Duelist with the Clerget Camel) I'm pretty sure it was on Sprue A but can check for you tomorrow if you wish.
Cheers,
Lance
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Complete convincing model. Beautiful done! Perfect prop, the outstanding lozenge, very realistic wood...everything fits.
Chapeau!
Manni
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Lance, this build report was a big show (including suspense ;)) and the result is mind blowing!
Such models are a big invitation to change to the big scale!
So I have to say it 100 times: No, I do not to buy a WNW kit. No, I do not ......................................
Cheers,
Frank
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Manni and Frank,
Thank you both, compliments such as this from two Builders whose work I truly admire make my day! :) :) :)
Cheers,
Lance