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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Paper and Card models => Topic started by: NinetythirdLiberator on May 22, 2018, 02:37:41 PM

Title: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on May 22, 2018, 02:37:41 PM
Hello All...

Now that the Dolphin is done, I think I shall start on a new paper model.  I have one from a manufacturer (WAK) and an authorized "recolor" from Matt77...the same artist who did the rendering on the Berg Scout from a while ago. 

(http://i.imgur.com/fvZEBvM.jpg)

Should be a fun addition!  I should start tomorrow.  Watch this space...

Dan ;)
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: GAJouette on May 22, 2018, 10:41:34 PM
 Dan,
Looking forward to following along my old friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: RAGIII on May 23, 2018, 11:12:32 PM
Looking forward to your build You certainly spend no time resting on your Laurels  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on May 24, 2018, 02:44:16 AM
Thanks, Guys...I just couldn't wait to make another paper model.  Between some other stuff!

I got a tiny bit started on her last night.  Just glued the parts that need to be thicker to some 1/32nd balsa and started the rudders.  Adding thickness is s common practice.  Since most of the directions are in Polish, they tend to mark parts needing thickening with asterisks etc. so it makes things easy.  Traditionally, folks use thin cardboard from a cereal box to make these.  I find balsa is easier for me to make look good and adds some stiffness.
 
(http://i.imgur.com/8GMdHEl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3GFWNBj.jpg)

I'm planning on building them both side by side.  We'll see how much I get done at this point since the Outlaws are in town starting today!
Cheers and keep cutting,
Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on May 27, 2018, 04:33:39 AM
All,

A smidge more.  I add balsa inserts into the main tail pieces for strength and form (these are designed in the kit...not my brilliant idea!).  I also ease the edges with a bit of sanding.  The paper is then folded over (the inserts are not glued...they "float") and edge glued.  Here is the result!

(http://i.imgur.com/7tMbZuw.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/U3u9yir.jpg)

Coming along even with graduations and the outlaws visiting!  :o

Cheers,
Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: RAGIII on May 27, 2018, 04:41:34 AM
Great start! As always Looking Fantastic!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: gbrivio on May 27, 2018, 05:45:45 AM
Brilliant start, following.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: GAJouette on May 27, 2018, 11:39:33 AM
 Dan,
As all ways Outstanding Work my old friend. It gets more and more impressive with each new update.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on May 30, 2018, 02:25:19 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Rick, Giuseppe and Gregory!  ;D

I started the lower wings on the Polish version.  The skeleton is balsa and has some nice undercamber.  I also embossed (from the inside with a straight edge and rounded wire) the upper surface of the paper for a 3-D effect.  It was touch and go since it's hard to bend the paper over the top and keep a nice bump-free surface, but it turned out ok.  I made sure the lower surface maintained the undercamber with some pre-forming of the paper and spots of super glue and accelerator.  Worked out ok!

(http://i.imgur.com/y9IKxEz.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9qA6LbD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3f6gO28.jpg)

I hope to finish the other side tomorrow and start on the Italian Job by Thursday.  We'll see how things go!

Cheers and thanks for looking,
Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NigelR on May 30, 2018, 06:50:53 PM
Very interesting to see how one of these kits goes together. Good work so far.
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: RAGIII on May 30, 2018, 07:42:08 PM
Moving along quite well as always. Outstanding work on the wings!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on June 01, 2018, 02:37:58 PM
Thanks, Nigel and Rick!  A bit of work on the top wing tonight...

This one has a folded card stock "box spar" that I inserted a piece of 1/16th balsa into for strength.  Then, the wing skins are attached very carefully and slowly with some pre-forming to avoid kinks etc.  I haven't finished the the wing tips yet, but at least the basics are together.  Looks ok from here!

(http://i.imgur.com/SnZyRDv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZEDJaeu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZdHTXcx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MVPyrKi.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JygHtRa.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/y5Vw82V.jpg)

More tomorrow when I hope to finish the tips and add some other parts like ailerons, what I think is a gravity tank and some other bits and pieces.  Then...do it all again for the Italian Job!

Cheers,
Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: RAGIII on June 01, 2018, 08:03:23 PM
You have done your usual excellent job on the wing. Looking forward to the next update.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on June 03, 2018, 03:58:46 AM
Thank you very much, Rick...this one is fun and doing them at the same time is enjoyable too.

I got the top wing done.  The biggest issue is the wing tips and the darts I cut out.  I'll leave them uncut on the next wing since I think they really weren't needed to get a nice edge.  I added the aileron bell cranks in the center section (tear drop shaped parts), a metal panel on the center section, then ailerons and aileron hinges.  Some touch up will be necessary but looking good so far.

(http://i.imgur.com/b3Svksd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vtfo2o6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3ypjjMR.jpg)

More tonight when I'll begin the Italian wings armed with more knowledge!
Cheers,
Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: RAGIII on June 03, 2018, 04:21:22 AM
Excellent update! I know I say this a lot but I am amazed not only with the results of your paper model builds but also at the speed in which you do them!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on June 03, 2018, 03:09:55 PM
Hi Rick...these go pretty quickly if you don't screw them up!  I do some additional painting on some but these will just have some edges painted and maybe some control surfaces picked out.  No decals, gloss coats, setting solution etc.  Still a fun challenge to put together.

Got the wings all done on both.  I shall start the fuselages tomorrow.  They may prove a bit tricky with the knife edge ventral portion.  We'll see!

(http://i.imgur.com/3U8vu1V.jpg)

Cheers,
Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: RAGIII on June 04, 2018, 03:29:53 AM
Awesome work on the wings! They look terrific!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on June 04, 2018, 12:35:41 PM
All (Rick!),

I started the fuselage by getting the skeletons started and then began the interior on the Polish machine.  You can see the parts are all cut out and then slot together.  The interior is just folded and fits between some formers and I folded and added machine gun breaches.  I'll see if I can start skinning this one a bit tonight.  On to the shots!

(http://i.imgur.com/QyLyYC1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RZ0WHDn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/S4sFRUI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/O4xkXsk.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2MxIVlo.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7p9Ed5I.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PxEIeOe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LJsaX78.jpg)

I still need to add some belts and the control stick.  But coming along nicely!

Looking pretty cool...Dan

Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NigelR on June 04, 2018, 08:30:49 PM
Looking very good. Really nice build skills here.

The idea of no clear coats appeals to me, something I am still getting to grips with on 1/32 kits......
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: RAGIII on June 04, 2018, 11:00:04 PM
The interior framework looks awesome as does the gun butts and interior wood. Must be nice to do wood without Oils or Decals  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: Juan on June 04, 2018, 11:41:18 PM
Dan, you are the man.  Your builds always amaze me.
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on June 05, 2018, 03:06:36 AM
Thanks, Everybody!  Much appreciated.

Yup...printed wood is kind of nice for a change. I keep thinking it's really cheating, but then I see decal wood and think...hmmm?  Maybe not!  Although I think that takes much more skill to put on and make it look good!  I've never attempted that before...

Just a shot or two of the sides beginning to take shape and a mock up of what the lower wings will look like. 

(http://i.imgur.com/AfJhxbX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/zudRsBq.jpg)

I'll try and get the decks on tonight!  Stay tuned...

Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: RAGIII on June 05, 2018, 11:00:04 PM
So you have done what would take me about two years with the beautiful Aviattic Resin kit in a couple of days  ;D Lovely work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on June 10, 2018, 03:01:47 PM
Gotta say, Rick...yours looks MUCH smoother and nicer.  Just a different medium I guess.  Though...the turtle decking and front section turned out to be a real bear on this one.  Not sure if I just wasn't accurate in cutting or the formers are off but not much really fit.  I did cobble it together and the nose radiator fit well sooooo...we're just going with it!  I also added inspection panels on the fuselage and the cockpit edging.  Getting close to adding the tails and lower wings now.

(http://i.imgur.com/K3gd1G7.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/got52EB.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/oALxqet.jpg)

We'll see how much more I get done tomorrow...Cheers and thanks for looking!

Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: RAGIII on June 10, 2018, 11:45:43 PM
The fuselage looks terrific! I love the way the printed wood looks!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on June 11, 2018, 02:31:41 PM
Thanks, Rick...I like the wood too. I'm not sure if I'll try varnishing with some semi gloss or not.  Maybe just leaving it as is will be best.

Tonight I added the tails, rigged them and got the ventral tank in place under the center section.  I think it's a tank, but I'm not too sure.  Anyway...I wasn't sure how the stab went on and looking at the real plane, it seems part of the decking is cut so that's what I did.  This isn't clear on the model or the "plans" for the model.  My fix looks ok when done.

(http://i.imgur.com/KjMFLu2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RvuECTr.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NNqt9Xh.jpg)

And here's that tank.  It went on really nicely and included some straps too.
(http://i.imgur.com/3gvcB4a.jpg)

And one last one.
(http://i.imgur.com/j3zhQmd.jpg)

Just noticed I also added the gun housings on either side as well!

Next are some engine exhausts and then the fuselage will be done after some more seam treatment on that turtle decking.  Then, on to the lower wings.  Going apace now!

Cheers,
Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: RAGIII on June 11, 2018, 09:31:42 PM
The fuselage looks Outstanding! Your pace at building these beauties still amazes me!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on June 17, 2018, 02:54:14 PM
Thanks, Rick...got a little busy with my son graduating from high school etc. but tonight, I got the bottom wing on and fitted the top wing as well with the interplane struts. As usual, they have a thin wire inner part with a paper sleeve.  Looks the part when done!
(http://i.imgur.com/c5DEywm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/XXADJiO.jpg)

Now it's on to the cabanes tomorrow and maybe the landing gear and tail skid next.  We'll see what Father's Day brings!  ;D  Hopefully a model or two!!

To all the fathers and soon to be fathers out there, Happy Father's Day!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,
Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NigelR on June 17, 2018, 08:08:44 PM
Looking very good. It's very impressive what you are able to achieve with paper, card and balsa.
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: Radarman on June 18, 2018, 02:20:06 AM
Dan,
Congrats on your sonís graduation. Hope has some great adventures starting this fall
Love the posts you share of the paper models.
                           Happy Fathers Day!
                                  Kevin (Soon of Port Orchard)
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: RAGIII on June 18, 2018, 03:12:31 AM
The struts look great and the Ansaldo is really looking the part with the upper wing on!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: gbrivio on June 18, 2018, 04:23:32 AM
Outstanding updates, it's going to be another paper wonder.
Giuseppe
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: andonio64 on June 19, 2018, 12:27:19 AM
Hi Danny,
the way you dealt with that paper thing makes it look as beautiful and realistic as a good plastic kit!
You are a wizard my friend!

Antonio
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on June 19, 2018, 01:51:32 PM
Thanks a lot, fellows!   ;) ;)  Antonio...just wait until I get the Italian one completed!!

I got the tail skid on (upside down I think...the plates for shock absorbing should be such that the longest one is outside...d'oh!), the cabanes and aileron connections as well as the main landing gear completed.  It all looks pretty coolio.

(http://i.imgur.com/0YKsTCQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vlNMdka.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/eDeMrW6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/q2oQgto.jpg)

I'll be rigging soon.  This one has some interesting double rigging that I think were covered with leather?  Or maybe is was streamlined metal.  I'll figure this out before I start.

Thanks again for looking....Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: RAGIII on June 19, 2018, 11:34:59 PM
Looks great sitting on the gear and skid!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NigelR on June 20, 2018, 06:24:56 PM
Good progress, she's looking very impressive.
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on June 24, 2018, 04:26:17 PM
Thanks Rick and Nigel...here is a bit more!

I noticed that there are some prominent brackets for the doubled flying and landing wires so I made a bunch out of folded paper and attached them to their correct sites.

(http://i.imgur.com/a2dumKk.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rYKZGfb.jpg)

Next, I made the wire stream-liners out of thin plastic sheet and carefully shaped them to an approximate airfoil followed by little segments of EZ-Line to represent the ends of the wires.

(http://i.imgur.com/JLaEWCo.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Y1zWwzv.jpg)

These were then painted silver based on some shots I've seen and carefully attached at each end to the brackets with thick CA and accelerator. 

(http://i.imgur.com/CoZP5RU.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/t2SoQIz.jpg)

A good nights work and a good facsimile of the original.  Landing wires will require an even more cunning plan tomorrow.  Wish me luck!  :o ;D

Cheers,
Dan

Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: Juan on June 24, 2018, 08:47:30 PM
Wow Dan, had not checked in a while.  What a beautiful artwork she is turning out to be.
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on July 02, 2018, 01:15:09 PM
All...

I have worked on the landing wires for the Polish version and it's working...but I did need a break.  SO!

I started the fuselage on the Italian version. I am taking it slow and trying to get a nicer finish including carefully sanding parts and separating the paper pieces instead of adding them as one.  Seems to go a bit better and safer for me.  I also like my own paper for my download which is a bit thicker (compared to the WAK kit) so I see fewer scallops in between the formers.  I like it a lot better thus far!

(http://i.imgur.com/CzkKdse.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JSOUFeg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/wZqPZ6C.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/HaTHou0.jpg)

Onward and upward!  More soon...Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NigelR on July 02, 2018, 09:30:38 PM
Wow, the work on the rigging on the Polish version is very impressive. Looking really, really good.....
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: Juan on July 02, 2018, 11:54:36 PM
Excellent work Dan (as usual).  Both looking great.   :D
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: RAGIII on July 03, 2018, 12:18:51 AM
The rigging is looking awesome as is the interior and fuselage of the Italian bird!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: coyotemagic on July 03, 2018, 03:25:24 AM
Spectacular work on both, Dan!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: lcarroll on July 03, 2018, 04:38:46 AM
   I have to say Dan, your "paper skills" are improving with every session you post! This pair is your best work to date, keep at it and most of all enjoy!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on July 03, 2018, 02:36:34 PM
Thank you so much, Gentlemen.  Man...it would be really nice to meet you all in person.  Of course, then you'd see these paper models "live" and then some issues may rear their ugly collective heads!  ::)

Much appreciated.

Here are just a few shots of the main fuselage and the tails connected.  The skins went on with quite a bit of fiddling but I do think they look better than the Polish example so I'm pleased (even if they aren't perfect)!

(http://i.imgur.com/FJC08W1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bPTqv1f.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/AhvhkJK.jpg)

The tails sure make this one colorful...

Cheers,
Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: andonio64 on July 03, 2018, 05:11:57 PM
It's a beauty Dan, you rendered very well the smooth and elegant lines of this plane!
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on July 04, 2018, 03:02:14 PM
Thanks, Antonio...I really like the Italian markings on this guy.  It sure is graceful...

Not much to report but I got the bottom wings blocked in, the cowling and the gun covers added and fin reinforcement in too.  A good place to stop for the night.  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/jyJEfTB.jpg)

More tomorrow as it's July 4th over here and a holiday from work!!!  This means BBQs, motorcycles, hikes and models!!!!

Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: Manni on July 04, 2018, 03:10:53 PM
Very impressive work. Really great what you show here.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: andonio64 on July 04, 2018, 05:24:18 PM
Happy 4th of July Dan, to you and all the US Forumites!
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on July 05, 2018, 05:14:52 AM
Thank you, Antonio.  I just finished prepping some ribs and hamburgers.  Corn on the cob too!   ;) ;D

Much appreciated.

Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: RAGIII on July 06, 2018, 12:47:01 AM
Lovely scheme on the Italian bird and of course your work is outstanding!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: AndRoby67 on October 03, 2019, 07:34:32 PM
Hi Dan,
I see now your fantastic job on another italian subject. It's all right, your work with paper is at higher level.
The only "mistakes", and you are not guilty, were made by the producer of the kit.
The italian one had the "St. George and the dragon" shield only on starboard side of the fuselage, nothing on port.
The "Balilla" fuselage was covered on sides by only one continue sheet of wood, not cut in pieces as the model is printed. Same on upper decking behind pilot. The "divisions" were only a line of little nails to fixing the sheet to the internal structure.
I was one of the member of the team that restored original 16553, I saw it dismantled for restoration.
Hope to see your models finished, you made great work also on complex system of rigging.
Roberto
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on October 04, 2019, 02:24:11 AM
Thanks, Roberto.  This kit is really nice but just on the back burner right now.  It WILL get finished!
I appreciate the explanations on the airplane.  Maybe I can fix this one too.  The M.5 fuselage is in the paint shop right now...

Cheers,
Dan
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: rhallinger on June 29, 2021, 06:41:02 AM
Hey Dan!  What ever happened to this handsome pair of Balillas?  Hope they are still extant.

Best,

Bob
Title: Re: WAK Ansaldo A.1 Balilla (1/33rd)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on June 29, 2021, 12:43:31 PM
Hi Bob!

One is still around but one got eaten by the cat.  I will start it over and finish the other one, though.  The lost one was the one from Marco which is a bummer.

Of course, the good thing about paper models, just print her out again!!!

Dan