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Title: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Dave W on May 10, 2018, 11:55:29 AM
The new Wingnut Wings kit to be announced at the Shizuoka Hobby Show is a Halberstadt CL. II

Here's an exclusive peek:

(https://s19.postimg.cc/msnsjtmg3/wingnuts_Halberstadt_may_2018.jpg)

The Halberstadt is on the Wingnuts stand ready for the show

(https://s19.postimg.cc/dxmy9ai83/wingnuts_shizuoka_stand_may_2018.jpg)

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia

Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: aliluke on May 10, 2018, 12:07:10 PM
Hmmm. It doesn't feel like much of a variant from their other kits. I'd like to seem them stray into more unusal planes like the D1! But there are some great schemes for this important plane and it it is very elegant. The rear gun rack is also an interesting aspect plus it could be loaded with a lot of flares, bombs etc. So the details might build into something very compelling. For sure WNW are not resting...

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: petrov27 on May 10, 2018, 12:13:10 PM
while I am sure many will be disappointed as this is not red with three wings, personally I'm thrilled as this subject is a favorite and one I have been crossing my fingers to see them do for years....
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: rayb24 on May 10, 2018, 12:38:24 PM
It’s not a BE2 but the Halberstadt is a key aircraft of the war, I’m happy and even more so since it isn’t red lol
Ray
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Borsos on May 10, 2018, 12:42:35 PM
My face hurts. There’s a smile from one ear to the other that turns me into something silly looking that even the cats laugh at: it couldn’t be any better than the Halberstadt Cl. II. It is my absolute all time favorite. I can’t wait to start building ... I‘ll have at least 5...  :)
Happy Borsos
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: hiddeous1973 on May 10, 2018, 02:55:39 PM
I will take a couple as well, lots and lots of very colourfull options to choose from!
Very happy about this one!

Hidde
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: OEFFAG 153 on May 10, 2018, 04:49:00 PM
This is another stellar release in my book. Very, very happy!

/Mikael
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: PrzemoL on May 10, 2018, 05:05:05 PM
Me, I am very glad with this one. Poland had 15 examples post war, there will be a chance to widen my collection of Polish WNW kits  :)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Suffolk Lad on May 10, 2018, 05:34:19 PM
A big smile from ear to ear here too - that's my Xmas present sorted - in May  :) A real welcome new addition to the stable.
Like the Dornier on announcement though, for a model 'in development' that's in a pretty advanced state so maybe we won't have to wait that long.

Makes one wonder what really is 'in development' behind the scenes.

Well done WNW for another terrific surprise

Happy days indeed  :) :) :) :)

Tug
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Lorenzo on May 10, 2018, 06:40:10 PM
I found this profile by Ronny Bar.   Maybe it will be one of the kit.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/f4/8d/a9f48d14f24d008834f09725fc54baa7.jpg)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Borsos on May 10, 2018, 06:52:05 PM
I bet on a red flamed Halberstadt of Schlasta 26, which is a classic, and on „No 3“, a red-yellow striped one with yellow wings because that doesn‘t need Lozenge wings. „No. 2 — Thea“ would be another classic...
Borsos
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Jeff K on May 10, 2018, 06:58:51 PM
Mine will be assigned to Huffzky and Ehmann, whether the markings are provided in the kit or not.
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: janh on May 10, 2018, 07:34:33 PM
Our Polish friends wil be excited with all te postwar variants possible (as previously marketed in 1/48 by Mirage)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Daryl_Huhtala on May 10, 2018, 08:23:25 PM
Once again they insist on taking my money. I might as well as well list them as co-owner as of my checking account.  ;D
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Umlaufmotor on May 10, 2018, 09:11:59 PM
BAM!!  :D
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Manfred_L on May 10, 2018, 09:59:31 PM
Yeah!  ;D
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: hiddeous1973 on May 10, 2018, 10:22:01 PM
one of the many walkarounds I found, just to get you in the mood...
anybody any idea on how to reproduce these colours by the way? love to do one of these, but painting that finish looks very hard to get right...

http://www.janusz-swiatlon.eu/halberstadt_cl2/index.html (http://www.janusz-swiatlon.eu/halberstadt_cl2/index.html)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: bobs_buckles on May 10, 2018, 10:38:44 PM
Excellent news!
 :)

von B
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Juan on May 10, 2018, 11:03:03 PM
Great choice with many decal options that are quite pleasing.
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Lorenzo on May 10, 2018, 11:04:21 PM
I found an other profile by Ronny Bar

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/13071844_10153748694909132_3573385961343590937_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=8ec868c02d3b2acc0d3b5fc80cc61554&oe=5B951731)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Suffolk Lad on May 10, 2018, 11:15:41 PM
Thinking well in advance, just popped into Hannant's this morning and bought the Windsock DF on said Halberstadt  :)

The profile posted by Lorenzo features in the frontispiece along with six others by Ronny bar. I would imagine the kit will contain others perhaps.

A really excellent small book packed with lots of period pics, colour pics of present examples and super drawings - great value for the outlay. No connection - just a happy customer. There were only two left on the shelf but I'm sure they will be available ongoing given the new subject matter.

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Borsos on May 10, 2018, 11:34:45 PM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Dl-C4lz-L._SX369_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Highly recommended!
Borsos
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RAGIII on May 11, 2018, 12:06:11 AM
I think this is a really Great Release! Nice lines and varied paint schemes I will most likely buy one. That being said here is my 2 seater record.
Purchased:
LVG CVI: Traded for a Roden Lafayette SPAD VII
Rumpler : Sold.
Bristol F2b: Sold
Salmson 2A2 USAS: BUILT  ;D
So, a 1 in 4 chance I will actually build it  :o
RAGIII
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: timpivonka on May 11, 2018, 12:19:52 AM
Great choice!  Definitely getting this one.  Lots of cool markings and armament loads has the makings for a great
centerpiece for a diorama.

Tim Pivonka
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: jamieg on May 11, 2018, 12:49:47 AM
This is one I will buy, but I am still hoping for an AH subject since WNW has yet to do any. Maybe for a Christmas surprise?
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: krow113 on May 11, 2018, 01:23:09 AM
Another one on the pile.
 German stuff sells so it will be a good steady seller.
I dunno though , I feel a little 'left out' as neither of the last two offerings are 'buy it right now ' for me.
I know I dont hafta rush out and buy it either as it will most likely be available for a few years.
Still , good for WNW!
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: lcarroll on May 11, 2018, 01:26:48 AM
   It's not in the top 3 of my Wish List however it's a Kit I will definitely buy and Build, the schemes are endless! If nothing else this announcement proves that the folks at Wingnut Wings are unpredictable when it comes to subjects. There appears to be no theme, rather variety and the occasional less then iconic subject keep us all in a state of near frenzied suspense. I must have checked the Forum a hundred times yesterday before the news finally broke.
   I do agree that some French and A-H Aircraft would be a welcome complement to the inventory, that should hopefully follow soon I hope however there's still plenty of subjects in the "heavy hitter" category available such as the BE.2 and the Strutter to name only a few.
   Bottom line for this happy modeller; another great release and another reminder that, in my chosen scale, we've got it pretty good! :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Doug Mace on May 11, 2018, 01:43:14 AM
Oh yeah, I'll throw in a three cheers for WNW..outstanding choice....a must have...a prestigious aircraft... I too love it's lines.  WNW once again breaks the mold (nopunintended)....I know of only one kit ever produced...the Aurora 1/48 that I built as a kid.
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Juan on May 11, 2018, 01:49:19 AM
Oh yeah, I'll throw in a three cheers for WNW..outstanding choice....a must have...a prestigious aircraft... I too love it's lines.  WNW once again breaks the mold (nopunintended)....I know of only one kit ever produced...the Aurora 1/48 that I built as a kid.

Hi Doug, Mirage Hobby also produced a couple of boxings if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: coyotemagic on May 11, 2018, 01:52:17 AM
I'm as pleased with this release as I would've been with a BE or a Strutter!  My favorite German 2-seater and so many wonderful schemes and markings options.  I hope Brunhilde is one of them, then I could have Brunhilde Jr. and Brunhilde Sr..
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/halberstadt%20project/DSC00652.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/halberstadt%20project/Brunhilde_zpsbqgchzgq.jpg)
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: coyotemagic on May 11, 2018, 02:10:56 AM
Oh yeah, I'll throw in a three cheers for WNW..outstanding choice....a must have...a prestigious aircraft... I too love it's lines.  WNW once again breaks the mold (nopunintended)....I know of only one kit ever produced...the Aurora 1/48 that I built as a kid.

Hi Doug, Mirage Hobby also produced a couple of boxings if I remember correctly.

Yep, Mirage and Blue Max.  Both good kits, but of the two, Mirage is by far the best.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Monty on May 11, 2018, 02:28:26 AM
Wow! Well done WNW! It appeals to me a lot....
Marc.
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: bobs_buckles on May 11, 2018, 05:42:14 AM
Of all the two-seaters she must surely be the most handsome.

Looks like a Pfalz DIII on steroids and that can only be a good thing to my way of thinking  ;) :o

vB
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Umlaufmotor on May 11, 2018, 05:46:07 AM
@bobs_buckles

Well spoken, Bob, my old biker comrade.
And it is only minimally larger than a Pfalz D.III or Albatros D.III / D.V

A very dangerous thing, back then - I suspect.

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: petrov27 on May 11, 2018, 06:57:42 AM
I think it is one of the most aggressive looking a/c designs of the first war - given the ground attack function these were performing at very low altitude it must have been very thrilling (terrifying?) to be flying it and especially standing in the back handling the rear gun....
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Trackpad on May 11, 2018, 08:12:16 AM
Not to pour much water on the fire but the CL-II, nice as it is, likely won't join the eight WNW kits in my cache. That said, it is a lovely kit and I am sure that many forumites will happily buy one or more and enjoy their builds immensely. Good luck to them all!  8)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RAGIII on May 11, 2018, 08:15:58 AM
Oh yeah, I'll throw in a three cheers for WNW..outstanding choice....a must have...a prestigious aircraft... I too love it's lines.  WNW once again breaks the mold (nopunintended)....I know of only one kit ever produced...the Aurora 1/48 that I built as a kid.

Hi Doug, Mirage Hobby also produced a couple of boxings if I remember correctly.

Yep, Mirage and Blue Max.  Both good kits, but of the two, Mirage is by far the best.
Cheers,
Bud

Here is mine(Aurora), from many years ago  ;D Pretty cool looking scheme...at least it seemed so to my imagination  ::)

(https://i.imgur.com/NDTANul.jpg)

RAGIII

PS: Hopefully I will do a little better with the WNW kit
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: eclarson on May 11, 2018, 09:44:28 AM
From the reactions I see here and on the Facebook WNW Fans group, this one will be a big seller.  Which means anyone who has half an inkling of getting one should do so as soon as possible once they become available.  With the plethora of very cool schemes (many of which Pheon Decal will no doubt provide for us eventually) I'm sure those who can afford to do so will buy more than one.  I bet this one sells out in record time!  I know I'm in for one.  :)

Cheers,
Eric

Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Dave W on May 11, 2018, 11:18:34 AM
Some years ago while visiting America I bought the excellent Mirage 1/48th Halberstadt kit for $80 which was quite expensive for the time/ scale.

Some years on, I still have not made it and now will be able to buy a Wingnuts 1/32 Halberstadt for not much more than the Mirage kit cost!

Mmm. Wonder if I posed the 1/48th kit behind the 1/32 kit for a diorama photo, it might suggest some distance between the two aircraft?

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Doug Mace on May 11, 2018, 11:56:52 AM
Yeah, but if you do that, Dave, it'll look a lot like a.....mirage.......................................(sorry)....so lame.............ok, moving on.
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: aliluke on May 11, 2018, 02:30:12 PM
Have to withdraw my initial reaction. Looking at the Halberstadt in more depth - particularly the profile and the schemes - I think I might be hooked...

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Borsos on May 11, 2018, 03:03:57 PM
I think it is one of the most aggressive looking a/c designs of the first war - given the ground attack function these were performing at very low altitude it must have been very thrilling (terrifying?) to be flying it and especially standing in the back handling the rear gun....

That's true, but not all Halberstadts were attached to Schlastas and doing ground attack missions. There were Halberstadts Cl. II in the inventory of normal FA(A)s doing classic C-type jobs.
Borsos
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RLWP on May 11, 2018, 05:29:41 PM
I'm as pleased with this release as I would've been with a BE or a Strutter!  My favorite German 2-seater and so many wonderful schemes and markings options.  I hope Brunhilde is one of them, then I could have Brunhilde Jr. and Brunhilde Sr..

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/halberstadt%20project/Brunhilde_zpsbqgchzgq.jpg)
Cheers,
Bud

I have always loved that photo, it is in 'Janes' where the 'plane is described as equipped for contour fighting. I haven't been able to find out exactly what 'contour fighting' was

Richard
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Trackpad on May 11, 2018, 08:50:02 PM
I have always loved that photo, it is in 'Janes' where the 'plane is described as equipped for contour fighting. I haven't been able to find out exactly what 'contour fighting' was
Richard
[/quote]

I'm not sure but it might mean "low level fighting" as when the aircraft are close to the ground and following the ground contours. "Contour lines" on a two-dimensional map show the shape or "contour" of the ground. Here's an example:

(https://i.imgur.com/Mz08W16.jpg)

Hope this helps!   8)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RLWP on May 11, 2018, 09:19:59 PM

I'm not sure but it might mean "low level fighting" as when the aircraft are close to the ground and following the ground contours. "Contour lines" on a two-dimensional map show the shape or "contour" of the ground. Here's an example:

(https://i.imgur.com/Mz08W16.jpg)

Hope this helps!   8)

I have always assumed it is a ground attack/suppression role. In fact it has to be, you don't carry all those stick grenades for any other reason. I was just curious why Janes called it contour fighting. Was this a term in use at the time?

Richard
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Trackpad on May 11, 2018, 10:15:27 PM
Richard,

I haven't heard of the term as it might apply to WW1 operations. When we operated light helicopters with reconnaissance forces, the helicopters employed what they/we called "NOE:" "Nap Of the Earth" flying. They'd fly virtually at ground level, making use of trees, woods, buildings and whatever other cover might be available to them. They'd stop behind cover, pop up, have a quick look around, then down again and off to their next bound.

I think that you're right, or pretty close to being right, when you say, "I have always assumed it is a ground attack/suppression role. In fact it has to be, you don't carry all those stick grenades for any other reason." It's a good topic for discussion and research!  8)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RLWP on May 11, 2018, 10:26:22 PM
I have only come across it in 'Janes' (bottom of page 160 if you have a copy)

There are a lot of possibilities here. 'Jane's Fighting Aircraft of WWI' is a compilation of articles between 1914 and 1919, so the description may have fallen out of use during that time. It may have been in use then but not now. Finally it might be a translation of a German description, correctly or incorrectly translated

Richard
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: lcarroll on May 12, 2018, 12:12:57 AM
Richard,
    You are most probably correct; contour "fighting" is probably a progression from the term contour "flying". The term "contour flying" is seen often in the literature of the period, by coincidence I''m presently reading Yeate's "Winged Victory' and he uses the term a lot.
   The discipline of Ground Attack Flying and Close Air Support is a very dangerous one, it has always been so and in my past experience we flew very low to minimize the threat from ground forces while optimizing the probability of a successful attack on the target(s). This included ingress and egress into and out of the battle area at very low level (200 feet above ground level) at high speed following the contours. Some delivery profiles were at 100 feet above ground. The development of "smart weapon" technology has changed a lot of that today. In 1918 the delivery of weapons onto ground forces was very basic, thus they did their work in close, very low, and with bullets and a lot of hand launched weapons such as the grenades we see in the photos. Brave men those, on both sides of the conflict!
   I wonder if the book referenced earlier, "Schlacht-Flieger", might shed further light on the topic? Bottom line though is I gotta get me one of these Halberstadts! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Manni on May 12, 2018, 12:51:57 AM
I am very happy with this great plane. I love the big opening in the fuselage, that gives a clear view into the cockpit. No need to talk about the endless colour schemes.  I am very happy that it isn't a brown or green plane. But I think the time for a Be.2C will come.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RLWP on May 12, 2018, 04:06:57 AM
Richard,
    You are most probably correct; contour "fighting" is probably a progression from the term contour "flying". The term "contour flying" is seen often in the literature of the period, by coincidence I''m presently reading Yeate's "Winged Victory' and he uses the term a lot.
   The discipline of Ground Attack Flying and Close Air Support is a very dangerous one, it has always been so and in my past experience we flew very low to minimize the threat from ground forces while optimizing the probability of a successful attack on the target(s). This included ingress and egress into and out of the battle area at very low level (200 feet above ground level) at high speed following the contours. Some delivery profiles were at 100 feet above ground. The development of "smart weapon" technology has changed a lot of that today. In 1918 the delivery of weapons onto ground forces was very basic, thus they did their work in close, very low, and with bullets and a lot of hand launched weapons such as the grenades we see in the photos. Brave men those, on both sides of the conflict!
   I wonder if the book referenced earlier, "Schlacht-Flieger", might shed further light on the topic? Bottom line though is I gotta get me one of these Halberstadts! ;)
Cheers,
Lance

That's great, Lance, particularly 'contour flying'

You mentioning low flying reminds me of Clostermann in 'The Big Show' describing hedge hopping. That was really low

Richard
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: lcarroll on May 12, 2018, 05:54:46 AM
Richard,
     Ahhh, "The Big Show", a real favorite of mine. I still have the copy I first read at 14 years old, it's in pretty sad shape but I treasure it.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RLWP on May 12, 2018, 06:49:01 AM
Richard,
     Ahhh, "The Big Show", a real favorite of mine. I still have the copy I first read at 14 years old, it's in pretty sad shape but I treasure it.
Cheers,
Lance

The spine has gone on mine

Richard
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: bobs_buckles on May 12, 2018, 07:08:44 AM
Richard,
     Ahhh, "The Big Show", a real favorite of mine. I still have the copy I first read at 14 years old, it's in pretty sad shape but I treasure it.
Cheers,
Lance


 I treasure my copy of Winged Victory (1934 1st Edition 2nd imprint) so much that I've locked it away in a grip seal bag in a dark corner of my bookcase. The book is dear to me  :)

vB
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RLWP on May 12, 2018, 07:56:20 AM
Richard,
     Ahhh, "The Big Show", a real favorite of mine. I still have the copy I first read at 14 years old, it's in pretty sad shape but I treasure it.
Cheers,
Lance


 I treasure my copy of Winged Victory (1934 1st Edition 2nd imprint) so much that I've locked it away in a grip seal bag in a dark corner of my bookcase. The book is dear to me  :)

vB

That's no way to treat a book - take it out and read it!
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RLWP on May 12, 2018, 08:00:29 AM
After all, it's not like it's expensive or anything...

https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=22848681187&searchurl=tn%3Dwinged%2Bvictory%26sortby%3D17%26an%3Dyeates%2Bv%2Bm%26fe%3Don&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-title3
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Doug Mace on May 12, 2018, 09:03:34 AM
Yeah, Robert, after seeing that, maybe that is no way to treat THAT book....take it off the shelf a put it in a safe!!
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RLWP on May 12, 2018, 05:59:51 PM
Yeah, Robert, after seeing that, maybe that is no way to treat THAT book....take it off the shelf a put it in a safe!!

No - sell it, buy a cheap reprint and some kits

Richard
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Mike Norris on May 12, 2018, 06:55:47 PM
I have always loved that photo, it is in 'Janes' where the 'plane is described as equipped for contour fighting. I haven't been able to find out exactly what 'contour fighting' was
Richard

I'm not sure but it might mean "low level fighting" as when the aircraft are close to the ground and following the ground contours. "Contour lines" on a two-dimensional map show the shape or "contour" of the ground. Here's an example:

(https://i.imgur.com/Mz08W16.jpg)

Hope this helps!   8)

[/quote]

Ground Attack - that would seem to fit the bill.
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: lcarroll on May 12, 2018, 10:21:20 PM
   I've enjoyed the comments on "Winged Victory", it's a book I've meant to get around to for a long while. I finally ordered a copy on-line around Christmas and it apparently disappeared into the ether of the international postal system. The UK Bookseller graciously mailed off a second one and I received it last week, I'm now half way through it and it's a real classic, wish I'd read it years ago!
   I have several treasured books like von Buckle, and understand his safe guarding measures. In a very untypical stroke of sheer luck I bought a used First Edition "Heroes of the Sunlit Sky" by Arch Whitehouse years ago for a mere $12 and later discovered it was a numbered (136 of 250) copy with an inscription by one of the subjects, Camel 22 Victory Canadian Ace Sir William Stephenson ....... better known as "A Man Called Intrepid"! Hard to beat that in the bargain department!
Cheers,
Lance
   
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: bobs_buckles on May 13, 2018, 04:25:23 AM
Richard,
     Ahhh, "The Big Show", a real favorite of mine. I still have the copy I first read at 14 years old, it's in pretty sad shape but I treasure it.
Cheers,
Lance


 I treasure my copy of Winged Victory (1934 1st Edition 2nd imprint) so much that I've locked it away in a grip seal bag in a dark corner of my bookcase. The book is dear to me  :)

vB

That's no way to treat a book - take it out and read it!

I do, but in Kindle form.  :o :)

vB
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: macsporran on May 13, 2018, 05:18:35 AM
Richard,
     Ahhh, "The Big Show", a real favorite of mine. I still have the copy I first read at 14 years old, it's in pretty sad shape but I treasure it.
Cheers,
Lance


 I treasure my copy of Winged Victory (1934 1st Edition 2nd imprint) so much that I've locked it away in a grip seal bag in a dark corner of my bookcase. The book is dear to me  :)

vB

That's no way to treat a book - take it out and read it!

I do, but in Kindle form.  :o :)

vB

Ohhhh, we used to dream of reading it on a Kindle. Woulda been like a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotten fish dumped on us. Kindle? Hmmph!
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RLWP on May 13, 2018, 05:28:59 AM
Kindle! I had to read book through dirty window of local library - in t' rain
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: petrov27 on May 13, 2018, 05:32:06 AM

Ohhhh, we used to dream of reading it on a Kindle. Woulda been like a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotten fish dumped on us. Kindle? Hmmph!

You were lucky. We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six o'clock in the morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out

But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.....

:)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Mike Norris on May 13, 2018, 06:12:40 AM
Huh - Well we had it tough. We used to have to get up out of the shoe box at twelve o'clock at night, and lick the road clean with our tongues. We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at the mill for four pence every six years, and when we got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife.
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Doug Mace on May 13, 2018, 06:45:42 AM
Luxury.....
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: rhwinter on May 13, 2018, 04:21:38 PM
HAHAHA, that's the spirit!
(I‘ll go see John Cleese at the end of the month: „Last chance to see me before I die“..)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: pepperman42 on May 14, 2018, 01:26:54 AM
Interesting and colourful release which once again proves WNW will walk their own path!!

Steve
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Juan on May 14, 2018, 01:45:00 AM
Interesting and colourful release which once again proves WNW will walk their own path!!

Steve

Agree 100% with Steve.  There is still hope for all our wishes.
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: bobs_buckles on May 14, 2018, 04:10:20 AM
...and you need a Kindle to read the instructions...   ::) ;D

vB
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: lcarroll on May 14, 2018, 05:04:59 AM
   I just tallied the numbers for fun; if you assume that Wingnut Wings Kit Inventory List is a pattern they follow there are 19 individual Kit Numbers open up to 32075, the last of the single kit offerings so far. That's a lot of modelling of itself and, judging by the quality of product to date, a lot of very fine modelling! We've got it very good these days!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Trackpad on May 14, 2018, 08:47:45 AM
   I just tallied the numbers for fun; if you assume that Wingnut Wings Kit Inventory List is a pattern they follow there are 19 individual Kit Numbers open up to 32075, the last of the single kit offerings so far. That's a lot of modelling of itself and, judging by the quality of product to date, a lot of very fine modelling! We've got it very good these days!
Cheers,
Lance

Just like a Global Monitor: always looking out for the morale of the troops!  ;D   8)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Ringleheim on May 14, 2018, 01:41:52 PM
This release is a disappointment for me.

As others have said, the airplane is very similar to at least 3 other WNW kits I can think of, one of which I have built (LVG) and one of which is in my stash (Hannover).

The steady pummeling of German aircraft we have received from WNW is getting a little ridiculous.

I wish someone would tell Peter Jackson that France and Italy, among other countries, also built airplanes that flew in WWI.

Wish they would branch out into some new and interesting territory.

Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RLWP on May 14, 2018, 05:46:53 PM
This release is a disappointment for me.

As others have said, the airplane is very similar to at least 3 other WNW kits I can think of, one of which I have built (LVG) and one of which is in my stash (Hannover).

The steady pummeling of German aircraft we have received from WNW is getting a little ridiculous.

I wish someone would tell Peter Jackson that France and Italy, among other countries, also built airplanes that flew in WWI.

Wish they would branch out into some new and interesting territory.

Almost like the top man at WNW likes these aeroplanes and chooses what kits to produce on a personal whim

Oh, wait...

Richard
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Borsos on May 14, 2018, 09:58:27 PM
This release is a disappointment for me.

As others have said, the airplane is very similar to at least 3 other WNW kits I can think of, one of which I have built (LVG) and one of which is in my stash (Hannover).

The steady pummeling of German aircraft we have received from WNW is getting a little ridiculous.

I wish someone would tell Peter Jackson that France and Italy, among other countries, also built airplanes that flew in WWI.

Wish they would branch out into some new and interesting territory.

THESE DAMNED KRAUTS!
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Trackpad on May 14, 2018, 10:27:54 PM
Well, this might be a blinding glimpse of the obvious, but when I skim through the list of kitsets on the WNW website, the only one that is not oriented to the RFC/RAF and the Imperial German Air Service is the French Salmson 2-A2. No Nieuports, SPADs or Hanriots, no Morane-Saulniers, Phonix or Ansaldos.

As Ringelheim said, "I wish someone would tell Peter Jackson that France and Italy, among other countries, also built airplanes that flew in WWI." Well said!  8)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RAGIII on May 14, 2018, 11:20:22 PM
This release is a disappointment for me.

As others have said, the airplane is very similar to at least 3 other WNW kits I can think of, one of which I have built (LVG) and one of which is in my stash (Hannover).

The steady pummeling of German aircraft we have received from WNW is getting a little ridiculous.

I wish someone would tell Peter Jackson that France and Italy, among other countries, also built airplanes that flew in WWI.

Wish they would branch out into some new and interesting territory.

Almost like the top man at WNW likes these aeroplanes and chooses what kits to produce on a personal whim

Oh, wait...

Richard

 ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RAGIII on May 14, 2018, 11:36:42 PM
This release is a disappointment for me.

As others have said, the airplane is very similar to at least 3 other WNW kits I can think of, one of which I have built (LVG) and one of which is in my stash (Hannover).

The steady pummeling of German aircraft we have received from WNW is getting a little ridiculous.

I wish someone would tell Peter Jackson that France and Italy, among other countries, also built airplanes that flew in WWI.

Wish they would branch out into some new and interesting territory.

I understand your Disappointment but personally I think the release has been well received by most 1/32nd Modelers. As far as I am concerned Let WNW stick with British and German aircraft. More room for Copper State and Special Hobbies to do French and other countries without worries of being crushed by a WNW release  ::) We do have a Nieuport 17 due out this year that looks to be SPECTACULAR by Copper State!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Borsos on May 15, 2018, 03:40:33 AM
... I would support every producer that releases e. g. a Farman F. 40, a MF. 11bis, a Voisin III-X, a Morane Saulnier P or BB or a Caudron G. IV in 1/32. i even would open a bottle of Champagne.  I think one reason for seeing them not kitted so far by WNW is their orientation towards modelling beginners. They even advertise their rerelease of the Albatros D. V with the words „ Relatively simple rigging„. This is the first information they give after the measurements of the model. And all the mentioned pushers or lattice tails respectively are in no way „Relatively simple rigging“. I didn’t give up hope that CSM would release their fantastic Caudron G. IV in 1/32. Edgar, can you hear me...?
Borsos
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Dave in Dubai on May 15, 2018, 04:31:30 AM
http://scalemodels.ru/news/12846-anons-Wingnut-Wings-1-32-Halberstadt-CL-II.html (http://scalemodels.ru/news/12846-anons-Wingnut-Wings-1-32-Halberstadt-CL-II.html)

A few more photographs of the new Halberstadt CL.II here for those who want more ...

I am already planning ‘Brünhilde’ with the crew loading up their “potato-mashers”, courtesy of the figures already released by Copperstate Models.

But how to acheive that unique paint finish on the fuselage.....will Wingnut Wings give us decals for this?

You’ll have to wait and see.

Three cheers for Sir Peter Jackson and WNW! :)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: lcarroll on May 15, 2018, 04:53:01 AM
    Thanks for these photos Dave. There's some great details here. The details on the upper wing center section are very impressive and I notice both the LMG 08 and the Parabellum appear to have more detail then the usual renderings of them, open vents for example unless they are the PE barrels painted to blend in with the rest of the Kit? It looks like a great Kit, a "must have" on my list. :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Borsos on May 15, 2018, 05:07:26 AM

But how to acheive that unique paint finish on the fuselage.....will Wingnut Wings give us decals for this?

You’ll have to wait and see.

Three cheers for Sir Peter Jackson and WNW! :)

(https://c8.alamy.com/compde/d295fx/heckteil-von-halberstadt-cii-ww1-deutscher-escort-kampferschlachtflugzeug-polnische-luftfahrtmuseum-in-krakau-polen-d295fx.jpg)
Airbrushing a "lozenge" fuselage and then sponge dipping grey or ocre over it...
Borsos
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Dave in Dubai on May 15, 2018, 05:11:36 AM
Thanks Borsos, that fuselage has been restored and repainted from it’s original state, although it looks similar to period photographs of other machines.
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Borsos on May 15, 2018, 05:58:37 AM
That’s true, but here’s how Mirage solved the problem for their 1/48 Halberstadts. For me it looks quite the same like the Krakiw pic above:
(http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/FirstLook/Mirage/Mirage_Halberstadt_Cl_II/Mirage_Halberstadt_CLII_decal_02.jpg)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Manni on May 15, 2018, 03:50:02 PM
... I would support every producer that releases e. g. a Farman F. 40, a MF. 11bis, a Voisin III-X, a Morane Saulnier P or BB or a Caudron G. IV in 1/32. i even would open a bottle of Champagne.  I think one reason for seeing them not kitted so far by WNW is their orientation towards modelling beginners. They even advertise their rerelease of the Albatros D. V with the words „ Relatively simple rigging„. This is the first information they give after the measurements of the model. And all the mentioned pushers or lattice tails respectively are in no way „Relatively simple rigging“. I didn’t give up hope that CSM would release their fantastic Caudron G. IV in 1/32. Edgar, can you hear me...?
Borsos

Andreas... Edgar was on the EME in Lingen and he told me that something very nice in 1/32 is coming.
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: rhwinter on May 15, 2018, 03:55:22 PM
„Andreas... Edgar was on the EME in Lingen and he told me that something very nice in 1/32 is coming.“

This sounds VERY promising to me!!
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Borsos on May 15, 2018, 10:52:52 PM
„Andreas... Edgar was on the EME in Lingen and he told me that something very nice in 1/32 is coming.“

This sounds VERY promising to me!!

Oh yes, it does for me too! Thanks for the info, Manni!
Andreas
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RAGIII on May 15, 2018, 11:10:31 PM
... I would support every producer that releases e. g. a Farman F. 40, a MF. 11bis, a Voisin III-X, a Morane Saulnier P or BB or a Caudron G. IV in 1/32. i even would open a bottle of Champagne.  I think one reason for seeing them not kitted so far by WNW is their orientation towards modelling beginners. They even advertise their rerelease of the Albatros D. V with the words „ Relatively simple rigging„. This is the first information they give after the measurements of the model. And all the mentioned pushers or lattice tails respectively are in no way „Relatively simple rigging“. I didn’t give up hope that CSM would release their fantastic Caudron G. IV in 1/32. Edgar, can you hear me...?
Borsos

I agree Andreas, especially about the Morane P It would fit in quite nicely with the Nieuport 17s for my Lafayette Escadrille collection!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: kornbeef on May 16, 2018, 01:36:40 AM
Looking at the quality of the renders and images of Copper States up and coming Nieuports I don't feel they have any worries about being crushed by a WNW release at all. i'm anticipating getting my mitts one one asap.  It would be nice to think WNW may have been open enough with Copper State to advise what they might plan on releasing and whats in the pipeline. 

It's not as if the market is swamped with high end kit providers in our niche and the idea of them co-operating so as not to tread on each others toes must make sense???


Keith
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Olieslagers on May 16, 2018, 04:35:32 AM
Anything from WNW is always welcome, but I was hoping for something Italian or French like a Hanriot. I just got the Junkers D.1 and waiting for the 1/35 Holt tractor from Roden so I will pass on this one. One must stay within budget!
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: petrov27 on May 16, 2018, 07:46:09 AM
I do feel a WNW Hanriot is likely at some point - Jackson does own a full size HD1 so I wouldn't be surprised if he would like a 1/32 version on his shelf :)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: rayb24 on May 16, 2018, 09:34:04 AM
I’d love a Breguet B14 rather than a Hanriot. Sorry I’ve always found the Hanriot a little boring.
Or a Caudron to match the 1/48th ones


Oh of course a  BE2, a Comic Camel, Friedrichachafen GIV. I mean we have to round out the German Twin engined bombers and it’s something for the Camel to play with too.
lastly a fairey seaplane please. With a cherry on top ;)


Ray
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: macsporran on May 17, 2018, 04:36:48 PM
I’d love a Breguet B14 rather than a Hanriot. Sorry I’ve always found the Hanriot a little boring.

Isn't it funny how we all view these things differently. No offence, Ray - and each to his own, of course, but I have never warmed to the Br14.

Probably dates back to me as an eager kid searching out each new Aurora biplane as it hit the shops. I remember I was on holiday with my folks in Buckingham and found the Breguet in a local shop - excitement level, through the roof. Couldn't wait to get the box home and open it.

Oh the disappointment! This slab sided thing lay inside, looking like it could have been assembled from some packing crates. Flat wings, flat fuselage, flat tail, flat featureless face. Yeuch!
After the graceful Albatros C, Halberstadt, Jenny, Dh4, F2b, (and the Merit 504K) what drove Aurora to release this monster? (I know - obviously needed a French two seater)

Anyway, since then, the Br's charms have totally passed me by!
If WNW release one I'll be happy for others, but probably forego myself.
S
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Bluesfan on May 17, 2018, 08:30:47 PM
I feel I must speak up for the Breguet 14, having like you rayb24 found it offputtingly bricklike at first. In fact, there's one particular photo which appears in lots of reference books, which doesn't help at all - it shows the plane perched up on a tail support, in a way which somehow emphasises the clumsy looking undercarriage. You probably know the one I mean.

But it was a stalwart, a strong and tough machine built in huge numbers. Actually, the reason I really warmed to it was its use postwar, in particular the part it played in the early pioneering of air routes down through the Sahara by Latécočre. And its military service lasted a similar length to that of the Bristol Fighter. Also, note well, from the modeler's point of view, a huge range of schemes is possible.

Having said all that, I too would love to see a Hanriot...

Mark
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Borsos on May 17, 2018, 10:02:38 PM
It is fascinating that every thread that has anything to do with new WNW releases turns into a wishlist for future WNW releases. This discussion here started with pictures of the (hopefully) soon to be release Halberstadt Cl. II and things that stand in direct connection with it (profiles from Ronny Bar, color finishes, ...). It made an unexpected but nevertheless interesting turn into literature (I had never heard of "winged victory" before, but ordered immediately a copy after reading these posts...) and now we are finally back on what is also done in several other threads (like in the "annual Wingnut speculation").
Ok then ... I want a ponny.  ;D
Borsos
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: petrov27 on May 17, 2018, 11:36:00 PM
Ha well this is true on other model forums I go to as well. There will be the "Tamiya releasing new Me109" post and then:

"yay lord knows we need a good 109!!!"
then
"not another dang Me109 im so disappointed!!!"
then
"they need/should/must release subjects X, Y and Z for reasons, A, B and C"

Im as guilty as anyone else responding with wish lists at that point :)
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Petie2nd on May 18, 2018, 12:28:09 AM
It's actually worse on some other forums. Someone (who's probably not a WWI/biplane fan) will usually pipe up with "Wingnut should branch out (or abandon WWI), and release the definitive early P-40!" Or B-29, a Spitfire variant that hasn't been done recently, or some Luftwaffe item that hasn't been kitted a thousand times, or F2H Banshee (since Kitty Hawk screwed theirs up), or, marginally more appropriate, some Golden Age biplane. I actually saw a post once that WNW making only WWI subjects "nobody cares about" was a "waste of resources"! I try to be patient, and state that I hope WNW sticks to what they do best, and not abandon our neglected little niche of Great War aeroplane fans, forgotten by most other manufacturers for so long! Wingnut has earned a reputation for quality, even among those who aren't interested in any of the subjects they have made, and some act as if there's no other manufacturer out there that will ever do justice to their favorite subject. (My closet & garage show that I certainly have nothing against most of those other subjects, and would also welcome a modern, correct F2H-2 and -3. Hasn't yet been a good one in 1/48 to replace the old Hawk kit from the '50's. But not WNW)

That said, since WNW has ventured into the postwar era a bit with Ninak, Biff, and now the Junkers D.1, a few Yellow Wings subjects would be nice to see. After all, Sir Peter himself even manned the gunner's seat in one of the planes for "King Kong"! (Still, even those can wait a bit until we have a few more that have been mentioned in this and other threads). As for me, I'd love a Hanriot and a Breguet 14!

Rich
Title: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: James on May 18, 2018, 01:48:57 AM
It's actually worse on some other forums. Someone (who's probably not a WWI/biplane fan) will usually pipe up with "Wingnut should branch out (or abandon WWI), and release the definitive early P-40!" Or B-29, a Spitfire variant that hasn't been done recently, or some Luftwaffe item that hasn't been kitted a thousand times, or F2H Banshee (since Kitty Hawk screwed theirs up), or, marginally more appropriate, some Golden Age biplane. I actually saw a post once that WNW making only WWI subjects "nobody cares about" was a "waste of resources"! I try to be patient, and state that I hope WNW sticks to what they do best, and not abandon our neglected little niche of Great War aeroplane fans, forgotten by most other manufacturers for so long! Wingnut has earned a reputation for quality, even among those who aren't interested in any of the subjects they have made, and some act as if there's no other manufacturer out there that will ever do justice to their favorite subject. (My closet & garage show that I certainly have nothing against most of those other subjects, and would also welcome a modern, correct F2H-1 and -3. Hasn't yet been a good one in 1/48 to replace the old Hawk kit from the '50's. But not WNW)

That said, since WNW has ventured into the postwar era a bit with Ninak, Biff, and now the Junkers D.1, a few Yellow Wings subjects would be nice to see. After all, Sir Peter himself even manned the gunner's seat in one of the planes for "King Kong"! (Still, even those can wait a bit until we have a few more that have been mentioned in this and other threads). As for me, I'd love a Hanriot and a Breguet 14!

Rich

I'm glad WNW only do World War I aircraft and they do an amazing job. If they did venture into World War II aircraft, everyone would start bitching if they did a Bf-109, P-51, Spitfire, etc. Yeah, some of us might not like some of the things WNW has put out, but WNW are putting out some of the best 1/32 World War I aircraft and there are a few that might not have ever been done, if not for WNW.

Rich, would love to see an F-86A being done, and I'm with you on a good F2H-2 Banshee from the Korean War.

The WNW Halberstadt looks really sweet.

James
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: GazzaS on May 19, 2018, 07:09:22 AM
I'm glad WnW are staying in their niche.  And I'm grateful for the 50-some-odd kits they've made.  Wish I could afford em all.  But even if I could, I think the Grim Reaper would claim me before I finished all that have been put out to date.

Damn full-time job!

Gaz
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: dr 1 ace on May 20, 2018, 04:47:24 AM
I'm glad WnW are staying in their niche.  And I'm grateful for the 50-some-odd kits they've made.  Wish I could afford em all.  But even if I could, I think the Grim Reaper would claim me before I finished all that have been put out to date.

Damn full-time job!

Gaz

Truly said, I think we should all be grateful for what WnW has produced. We truly are in the Golden Era of WWI modeling.

Ed
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: mike in calif on June 20, 2018, 12:53:03 AM
I too am happy with WNW doing what they do best in 1/32. I've taken great pains to explain that they are the only I/M kits that venture into the 1920s era of flying, AND there are plenty of other companies to make "other" models.
 What I think is happening, is that guys that model the "other" subjects, want their era kits made to the WNW standard. and I don't blame them.
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Jeff K on June 20, 2018, 01:22:35 AM
one thing i love about WNW: Sir Peter has decided he doesn't care what you (or I) think (to some degree anyway, they still hope to at least break even).

most of us aren't doing this as our job, are we? so what do we want to happen? we want our project to turn out OUR way. had i his resources i'd like to think i' take on some similar endeavors (as they put on tourist t-shirts here in Thailand, "same-same. but different.").

WNW need to just keep on truckin'.
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Doug Mace on June 20, 2018, 02:57:11 PM
Hear hear.
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: rayb24 on July 09, 2018, 09:43:53 AM
Much as Sir Peter may not care, I suspect he or some one keeps an eye on what we want WW1 wise. I love the fact that wnw are not doing me too models. I know that infuriates some, but there are good models of DR1’s and Spads. Maybe not shake and bake, but lol we are model builders, not constructors...


Now can I have a Friedrichshafen to finish the bombers and a comic Camel... just sayin

Ray
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: Gene K on July 09, 2018, 10:08:52 PM
I love the fact that wnw are not doing me too models. I know that infuriates some... .

Grrrrrrr....... >:(

Gene K
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: rayb24 on July 10, 2018, 10:28:22 AM
I love the fact that wnw are not doing me too models. I know that infuriates some... .

Grrrrrrr....... >:(

Gene K
I wish there was a way to like posts. As I would have the on above....


Ok so DR1, lets face it, it was a 3 month wonder that got Voss, Wulf and MFR killed amongst others. Not saying it was bad an all, but its time had been and gone before it really became operational.


The 1/32 Roden model is perfectly fine I have one. Yes its not wnw level but a really nice aircraft can be built or corrected, and in the hands of some of the builders on here a masterpiece could be built. so why waste a WNW release with it.
Just saying....
Ray
Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: rhwinter on July 10, 2018, 03:46:27 PM
I love the fact that wnw are not doing me too models. I know that infuriates some... .

Grrrrrrr....... >:(

Gene K
I wish there was a way to like posts. As I would have the on above....


Ok so DR1, lets face it, it was a 3 month wonder that got Voss, Wulf and MFR killed amongst others. Not saying it was bad an all, but its time had been and gone before it really became operational.


The 1/32 Roden model is perfectly fine I have one. Yes its not wnw level but a really nice aircraft can be built or corrected, and in the hands of some of the builders on here a masterpiece could be built. so why waste a WNW release with it.
Just saying....
Ray

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Title: Re: Exclusive look at the new Wingnuts kit
Post by: RAGIII on July 10, 2018, 11:23:16 PM
I love the fact that wnw are not doing me too models. I know that infuriates some... .

Grrrrrrr....... >:(

Gene K
I wish there was a way to like posts. As I would have the on above....


Ok so DR1, lets face it, it was a 3 month wonder that got Voss, Wulf and MFR killed amongst others. Not saying it was bad an all, but its time had been and gone before it really became operational.


The 1/32 Roden model is perfectly fine I have one. Yes its not wnw level but a really nice aircraft can be built or corrected, and in the hands of some of the builders on here a masterpiece could be built. so why waste a WNW release with it.
Just saying....
Ray

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I agree with the general sentiment that a WNW kit of the DR1 is not a Necessity. Having built several and with at least one still in the stash, I can live without a WNW version. That being said I will go back to something I said in this or another thread. IF WNW releases one I don't think it will be IN PLACE of another Aircraft. It will have been planned and Nurtured as part of PJs list and therefore not instead of something else. And yes, I would buy several  8)
RAGIII