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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: GazzaS on April 28, 2018, 03:08:33 PM
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HI Everyone,
After completing my first 1/32 biplane, thoughts of my second have never been far away. So, finally I've begun. I started a few days ago by laying some primer down in places, then detailing the inner fuselage wood grain in an experimental manner. The result was less than I had hoped, but since the external fuselage will have no wood grain, I feel no compulsion to redo the interior.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/134/ZpFjdL.jpg)
Then today I devoted most of the day to the engine. The only changes I made to the engine was to add Ignition wires and tape the carburetor pipes. After a painful lesson with my Roden D.III I thinned the intake pipes before adding the tape this time.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/4145/XpTRzy.jpg)
With my airbrush I painted the assembled engine with Alclad polished aluminum. Then I used washes to add colors. I wanted to give the black cylinders the look of parts that have been chemically treated instead of painted. The "browned" effect on the rocker boxes was done to mimic pictures I've seen. Likewise the weathering effects were all done with tube acrylics thinned with water. The detail painting was done either in tube acrylic or Tamiya enamels. I did a lot of work that will never show, but I enjoyed doing it anyway.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/7944/p4NN5b.jpg)
Many of you do great things with all of those wires coming from the magnetos, but I have to admit that I can't see myself completing that part successfully.
The exhaust pipe was also weathered with various washes to get a somewhat heated metal effect. Later, I will use some pigments to add a bit of blackening. It's all very experimental at this point as I work on new methods.
Thanks for looking!
Gaz
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Great start there, Gaz. I will keep a close watch for all your updates.
Kevin
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Great start there, Gaz. I will keep a close watch for all your updates.
Kevin
Me too, Gaz!!
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Great start Gaz, turning out to be quite a looker.
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Your engine looks terrific Gaz! Looking forward tot he next update
RAGIII
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Looks great!!
Steve
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Guys,
Thank you for the great replies!
Gaz
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Nice start indeed 8)
Gary
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Looking mighty sharp Gaz, I think you have this WWI caper well in hand. That paint scheme you have chosen is KILLER! I'm looking to you next instalment in anticipation.
Dan
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Nice start on the interior skin and the engine.
Giuseppe
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Great start, Gaz. The engine looks veeeery nice.
Bye,
Manni
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Thank you everyone!
Gaz
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Very nice start, Gaz, I will be following with great interest!
Cheers
Ondra
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Thank you Ondra!
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Shaping up beautifully, Gaz! That engine is perfect!
Cheers,
Bud
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Excellent work, Gaz!
More!!!!!
:) Bob ;)
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Guys, thank you!
Excellent work, Gaz!
More!!!!!
:) Bob ;)
Ooh! Thanks for dropping buy. Just realized I forgot to order more buckles. I really like the way they improved the appearance of my D.III. I tarnished the tubing with some thin washes of zinc yellow and burnt sienna once they were in place.
Gaz
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Hi everyone,
Just want to thank you all for your positive comments and helpful tips. There as been a bit of cursing and swearing involved, but I have made some progress.
I've spent the last three days either painting the 'metal' parts in that lovely shade of grey-pea green or working on the same 3 cubic inches of Albatros, the cockpit.
I couldn't get the look of leather I wanted for the seat, and finally abdicated so that I could move ahead.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/6349/omYASr.jpg)
My next efforts went on those blasted PE seat belts. I don't know how anyone could get them to fit properly with that joining strap where it was placed. On the second annealing, some brass melted away from the 'D' loop causing me to curse my choice of a propane torch. In desperation I cut away the joining strap. Honestly, I think it was positioned horribly. I should have replaced it, but just getting them into a close-to-believable shape took more patience than I was granted. In the end, I decided that I had reached the 'good-enough' point.
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Inspired by the interior control rigging you guys are doing, I decided that I was going to try it for the first time. After getting a reply in the tips post, I decided to use the Stren 2lb. test that arrived after finishing my last Alby. After I got it into place and heat shrunk enough, I painted it silver. Despite the paint, it doesn't show well in the photos.
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The bird I'm building is a D.V, so the control cables for the ailerons pass before the pilots eyes into the upper wing. This means a few less buckles, but it also means trying to cut four pieces to fit into a very short space once the upper wing is in place. I'm not one to enjoy precision work in confined spaces. I suppose I could drill all the way through the upper wing... but I really don't want to as this machine will have painted wings.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/8986/aYjGZq.jpg)
So...another step ahead, even if some fumbling was involved.
Thanks for looking!
Gaz
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Great work there Gaz! Queenslanders are excellent modellers :)
Your seatbelts look fine to me. I'm no fan of those PE belts either, trying to make Sopwith Camel seatbelts behave right now.
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Very nice work so far. Like you, I've made the move to 1/32 (from 1/72, quite a jump) but I haven't actually completed anything yet. I have four 1/32 kits at the interior done/fuselage closed stage but I have to learn some new techniques (like airbrushing!) before I can finish them. I've been putting that off but now I am retired I have no excuses....
Those PE seatbelts are a pain, I think yours look pretty good. I have several of the HGW fabric ones for future use.
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Very nice work on the interior! Your seatbelts turned out fine and I like the fabric color and look they have. As for the control lines I drilled 4 holes in the round part attached to the column than glued fishing line in the holes. The plan is to run them all the way through the wing. I will add that this will also involve attaching the pe part to the bottom of the wing first then waiting to wrap it around the top. After cutting the lines the PE should cover the mess. Plan B is cutting away any sign of my fishing lune and running stretched sprue through the holes. That is what happened on my first Albatros DV build :-[
RAGIII
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I can only join in: very nice interior and a nice engine as well. I especially like the exhaust. The rusty colors look really great.
Borsos
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Thank you all for your positive replies! Cockpits are one of my more difficult areas as so much is new to me. Especially the cables.
Last night I ordered some HGW seatbelts for my other Alby's. Though they appear fiddly, they seem to be well-liked by those who have written about them.
Gaz
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I think the seat harnesses included with the Albatros Jasta 5 boxing are not sized right. The shoulder straps seem too short to make it from the bulkhead to the seat with that cross-strap on them. I have given up on them and ordered the HGW fabric seatbelts, some releases of which come with either a resin seat cushion (not included in the WNW kit) or two complete resin seats.
Good work so far with your Albatros.
Bill
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I think the seat harnesses included with the Albatros Jasta 5 boxing are not sized right. The shoulder straps seem too short to make it from the bulkhead to the seat with that cross-strap on them. I have given up on them and ordered the HGW fabric seatbelts, some releases of which come with either a resin seat cushion (not included in the WNW kit) or two complete resin seats.
Good work so far with your Albatros.
Bill
Bill,
I thought this, exactly! I wrestled and wrestled with them, finally opting to break out the scissors. Now, a day later, it does appear they are a little short to keep a man in there comfortably.
I hafta admit that I thought Roden did a better job on the Albatros seat cushion. I didn't think there wasn't one at all, but a very thin one molded to the seat. And I hafta admit that I only considered scratching a cushion for a few seconds before getting involved in other areas of the cockpit.
Thank you!
Gaz
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Gaz,
You are much too critical of your work, the results are wonderful as evidenced by all of our comments .
Ed
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Thank you, Ed.
Gaz
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Hi everyone!
Despite dropping the fuselage while I was waiting for a bit of CA to dry after adding the engine, we're about ready to close up.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/897/4DAuzA.jpg)
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I decided to dry to make the engine deck and tank look as if they'd been subjected to many hours of castor oil with a few dark, dirty washes.
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Every time I added parts to the fuselage, I'd close the entire thing up so the cement could set in it's proper location. I'm hoping that when the upper panels go on, that everything matches up correctly.
Thanks for looking!
Gaz
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Going well Gaz!
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Looking terrific. Should go much more quickly now that the interior is completed!
RAGIII
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Thank you fellas! I'm really enjoying this build. The way things fit really makes these WNW kits special.
Gaz
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Gaz,
Your weathering of the engine and compartment look great.
Bill
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Thank you, Bill!
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I, too, have experienced some trying models, but you are on your way to a good result. Keep at it!
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Thank you, Ken!
Gaz
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Good progress, she's looking very good so far. You've encouraged me to dig my WNW DV out of the stash and start working on it!
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Thanks Nigel! I'm glad I've inspired.
Gaz
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Crisp and clean. Very very fine progress, Gazza!
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Przemo,
Thank you!
Hi everyone.
despite a week long feeling of a lack of accomplishment, there has been some progress. Though not where I wanted it. My big thing today was going to be spraying the famous green tails of Jasta 5. But, much to my dismay, the Tamiya white thinner was marred where the putty in the fuselage join had sunk a little. So, I had to bring out the Mr. Surfacer and fill the spots. Sadly, Mr. Surfacer had thickened over time and had to be thinned with lacquer thinner.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/911/WnqlGh.jpg)
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I hope to sand it smooth tomorrow and re-prime the seam.
On my first Albatros, I wasn't happy with the finish on the wings. So, I'm taking it more seriously and hoping to get some proper pre-shading done.
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The masks aren't for hard masking. More like soft guidelines for the pre-shading. I cut kabuki tape into 2mm wide strips for the rib tapes. And I used 1mm tape for the tubing details on the control surfaces. I used 2mm Tamiya flexible tape around the edges where red edging will be required. I'll tape the vertical stabilizers once I've sanded the fuselage seams.
What do you guys use for a cutting board?
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I use a Corelle Ware plate. It's blade proof, and I was quite surprised to find it here in Australia.
It's amazing stuff, really. Sometimes almost indestructible... But if it lands the right way after being dropped, it sort of explodes.
There's not much natural wood since Jasta 5 painted them from stem to stern. But here are the propeller and wheel axle fairing. More experimentation on wood grain and propeller laminations. Could redo it... but probably won't.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/152/iA4e4u.jpg)
Thanks for looking!
Gaz
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Nicely done prop and axle fairing Your prep work looks as though it will work out well.
RAGIII
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Looking really really good Gaz. Prop looks amazing and I reckon you've got those laminations about right. I'd dull it down now with washes as otherwise it'll draw the eye too much. A very humble opinion on my part and perhaps on your radar too.
I never would of thought of cutting on a plate. I will have to give it a try.
Cheers
Alistair
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Thank you fellas! Thanks for the suggestion for giving the prop some washes. Should help!
Gaz
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Nice work here, good to see you making progress.
One possible thing to consider, the axle fairing was apparently two parts, with a join down the middle. You've prompted me to start getting ready for this build and I was reading the Ray Rimmel special on building the Wingnuts Albatros, and he points this out and corrects it by scribing a line down the middle. It seems an odd thing for WNW to miss out.
The TVAL Albatros shows this quite clearly, as do several photos of original aircraft (just Google "Albatros DV undercarriage" and you will get some). I assume this would be the case with all aircraft, but I can't say for sure. Would be a simple fix at this stage if you can be bothered.
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HI Nigel, and thank you.
I appreciate the tip on the fairing. I hate rescribing, especially after paint. I guess I'll have to strip it entirely.
Cheers,
Gaz
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Again I really like your progress! You actually cut masking tape on a plate? Don’t the blades go blunt very quickly that way?
Borsos
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Again I really like your progress! You actually cut masking tape on a plate? Don’t the blades go blunt very quickly that way?
Borsos
HI Borsos,
Thank you!
Blades seem to dull quickly no matter which application. I buy less expensive blades and don't feel bad when I have to throw them away. Still, I only change blades when I feel the need for fine cutting (PE and trimming fine parts). I use side cutters and saws and files, as well, to limit knife usage.
Gaz
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Back again,
This time with pre-shading done. Instead of using black or gray for the lighter shades, I just used dark shades since I'd mixed them.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img921/9944/T7NykE.jpg)
I find it odd that WnW doesn't make the wing geography scalloped between the ribs. So, hopefully it'll show up in the paintwork.
Cheers,
Gaz
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Very interesting way of Preshading your wings. I never saw this before. Clever idea, I am keen on seeing it finished.
Besides of that I love your chosen color sheme, you can't go wrong with a Jasta 5 plane!
Borsos
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Very interesting way of Preshading your wings. I never saw this before. Clever idea, I am keen on seeing it finished.
Besides of that I love your chosen color sheme, you can't go wrong with a Jasta 5 plane!
Borsos
I agree with Andreas on all counts. Innovative way to pre shade the wings!
RAGIII
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Guys,
Thank you! It's all very experimental as I try to find my way though this "new" and exciting genre of models. I'm really curious about how I'm going to get that masking right on the tail.
That's the next hurdle.
Cheers,
Gaz
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Pheon makes some decals for doing the red outline of the Jasta 5 Albatroses (sp?), and FCM decals from Brazil include masks for the tails of Jasta 5 planes in their Albatros decal offerings. If you have a Silhouette, you can measure the tail surfaces and create our own masks, testing with paper before committing to the masking material.
Bill
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Bill,
Thank you for the info!
Hi Everyone,
I took advantage of today's last bit of sunshine to put the base coat on the upper halves of the wings.
I sprayed on the two-color base coat, then tinted the new color with varying amounts of the pre-shade color to effect modulation with the airbrush. Here are three views of the result:
(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/8224/EDDmr9.jpg)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/6893/T3xNoO.jpg)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/8656/Z7Bu06.jpg)
I'll let them cure overnight, then do the undersides tomorrow after work if all goes well.
Cheers,
Gaz
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Excellent results in the wings. I love the shading!
RAGIII
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Great result, Gaz. The colour looks very rich and the pre shadeing is very nice.
Bye,
Manni
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Now I like that. I am not a fan of preshading on wings (my own personal view) but that works well. It gives the ribtapes a tonal variation in a subtle way and isn't over the top. Very clever.
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Have to agree with all the comments above, beautiful tonal differences.
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That worked very well. A deft touch with the airbrush
Steve
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congratulations on that striking finish. your method really pays off! That's a good way to accentuate ribbing without postshading...
Hats off!
Borsos
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Really nice - gives me the heart to tackle these types of schemes which I otherwise shy away from. Great work.
Thanks,
Alistair
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Hi everyone,
Thank you for your kind comments!
Gaz
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Hi again,
Not alot covered as I've been a bit distracted with my favorite plane from next war... But I did get some painting and masking done today. Hate masking... but what must be, must be. Or...I hafta buy aftermarket.
I think last time I posted, it was the upper sides of the wings. Here is the lower:
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The techniques was the same except that for the upper sides I wanted to low-light the depression between the ribs and very lightly highlight the ribs themselves.
For the lower side, I wanted to low-light the area immediately adjacent to the rib, and to highlight the rib itself and to a lessor extent, highlight the space between the ribs... My idea of trying to show some slight light passing through.
Today it was all empennage. Masking painting, and then finally realizing I could have done it quicker and easier than I did. I hate it when an epiphany comes after I've finished.
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I'm not very happy with the green. It's a bit dark and translucent looking. I;ll have to do some airbrush-stuff to see if I can get it looking better.
Thanks for looking!
Gaz
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Good progress but I have to agree with you about the green. It does look a bit dark and too translucent compared to how the Jasta 5 green is usually represented, although who really knows, it's your call. There are some good photos of Jasta 5 planes on the WNW website which will show you how the tails looked, in case you haven't seen them.
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How did you end up doing the red trim on the tail surfaces?
Bill
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Hi Fellas,
Nigel, I haven't started yet, but I think I'm going to redo the tail. Thanks for your input.
Bill,
First I masked off the portion that would be painted red, then I painted green. Once the green had set for a few days I masked the green, and painted the red. This left me with a fair amount of touch up to do. It would have been quicker to paint the whole empennage green, mask off the area to be painted red... Shoot it quickly with white primer, then once dry, just mask off the area to paint red.
Really hate redoing it... But it just came out too wrong.
Gaz
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The red outline came out beautifully even if it was a lot of work. As for the tail color it is your Model and if you aren't happy that is what Matters. Personally I think it is in the realm of possibility and would just spray a little of your highlight color to lighten it a tad 8)
RAGIII
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Hey GazzaS,
Here are a couple of photos I took of the Albatros replica at the Museum of Flight in Seattle.
Not saying it is identical to the original, but it gives you an idea of what it may have looked like on the full size aircraft.
Enjoy the rest of the build.
Dave :)
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RIII,
Thanks for you thoughts. I may try fixing it with airbrush work, first. The though of stripping the tail really brings me down.
Dave,
Thanks for the inspirational photos! I may save it yet.
Gaz
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Gaz,
The tail looks fine to me , why do it all over again if the issue is minor?
Your build is going well , keep the momentum up!
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I can only agree, Gaz, I cannot see a reason for stripping the tail off. It is good work that can get perfect by just fixing some minor areas.
Gaz,
The tail looks fine to me , why do it all over again if the issue is minor?
Your build is going well , keep the momentum up!
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Your doing a fantastic job, Gaz, and the tail looks fine. A little less gloss and it'll be perfect.
Cheers,
Bud
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Your doing a fantastic job, Gaz, and the tail looks fine. A little less gloss and it'll be perfect.
Cheers,
Bud
Although It is still your decision, after seeing the replica photos I agree with Bud and the others.
RAGIII
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Guys, thanks for all of your kind and positive comments. I went to try to fix it yesterday but ended up focusing on each tiny blemish as I tried. In the end I whipped out the Simple Green and toothbrush and stripped it off after sealing the fuselage in a plastic baggie. Because the red and green were done in my 'more durable' mixture, they took some effort to remove.
My new green is much lighter and done in enamel. I'm about to go mask it up for the next stage of my new method. Hopefully in a couple days I can post a better set of pictures.
Gaz
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Looking forward to the results!
Steve
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Steve,
Thanks. I'm hoping to get this right sooner or later. I find that I'm more comfortable trying to work with camouflage colors than I am with base colors in a more decorative setting. But I'll need to learn for that future red triplane.
But, my new Airbrush arrived today. It has a .2mm tip and can spray a very fine line of very thin paint without making paint spiders. Do you guys have a name for those paint smears that shoot out in 360 degrees?
So, I got to test it on my Alby's tail after having a few minutes on my paint hack. So far it has given me hope that I've made a good investment.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/4906/IkcFlF.jpg)
The base green I made by mixing Tamiya Enamel matte yellow and matte blue paints. The color just fell to where I wanted it.
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The edging is untinted Tamiya matte red enamel. I sprayed it straight over the matte green I'd made.
Unfortunately there is a raised edge at the border. I'll live with it since I can't see it with my glasses off...lol
(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/554/YKUw4i.jpg)
The darker green between the ribs is a thin mix of various acrylic greens I have made during the build, including the dark semi-opaque green from the first attempt.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/3208/YprxJy.jpg)
I'm quite happy with the way the shading looks on the rudder, but less so with the horizontal surfaces. I'll have another go after work tomorrow if I'm not too whipped.
Thanks for looking!
Gaz
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Your re paint looks beautiful. Well Done.
RAGIII
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I'm definitely liking the green repaint.
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Gaz,
My initial thought on re-doing the tail was "leave it as is" however I believe the new version is far better and more closely matches the photos Dave provided. I also believe that "scale effect" is at play here; this improved version eliminates the "toy like" impression of the original ........ nicely done!
Cheers,
Lance
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I'm happy that your happy with it now!
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Thanks guys! Still not really sure how I feel about some of the surfaces. But I think I'm just going to use a filter to blend the tones into softer demarcations. Will do it with the wings, too.
Gaz
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Nice work so far, Gaz. Good luck with your new airbrush. It looks like you've got it pretty well sorted out. Well Done! 8)
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That looks really excellent to my eye. The ridging between the red and green might be worn down by gentle rubbing with tissue paper?
What is the make of your new airbrush?
Cheers,
Alistair
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Nice tail, I like both red and green.
Giuseppe
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That looks really excellent to my eye. The ridging between the red and green might be worn down by gentle rubbing with tissue paper?
What is the make of your new airbrush?
Cheers,
Alistair
Thank you Alistair,
My new airbrush is the Iwata HP-B Plus.
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Gary and Giuseppe,
Thank you!
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That looks really excellent to my eye. The ridging between the red and green might be worn down by gentle rubbing with tissue paper?
What is the make of your new airbrush?
Cheers,
Alistair
Thank you Alistair,
My new airbrush is the Iwata HP-B Plus.
(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/405cf6_e3c0d454f03b8213ce74dff3fd95d07c.jpg/v1/fill/w_498,h_211,al_c,q_90/file.jpg)
Looks like an awesome airbrush. Have fun!
RAGIII
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Thanks Gaz
I'll have to consider that airbrush - already have an Iwata but not that fine.
Look forward to your model updates.
Cheers
Alistair
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Hi Everyone,
I had to set the Albatros aside while I finished up a Valentine for a group build elsewhere. But today I came back to work on a few of the things that cause me some trepidation.
I did some painting on the fuselage that iswn't really photo worthy, and then I began to reshape the spinner and assemble the kit Spandaus.
When I built my Roden Albatros, I used Gaspatch guns. They were awesome, but the jackets were still thicker than scale. So, I resolved to use the supplied PE and a set of drill bits that go from 1mm to 10mm to roll them.
They didn't come out perfect, but I'm happy enough with the result. Before I add the top wing, I'll use some metal pigments to add highlights.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img921/2778/XzuKDq.jpg)
I partially filled the inside of the spinner with 5-second-fix UV glue. Then I went to the Dremel stand to begin reshaping with a large engraving bit at 5k RPM. After that it came down to file and sandpaper.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img921/3108/xcqs2p.jpg)
I'm a bit happier with the new shape, but will double check everything once I have the cowl plates on the fuselage. I hope I don't have to do more to it, but you never know till you get there.
Thanks for looking!
Gaz
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Beautiful work on the spinner and guns, Gaz! Those PE jackets look just fine to me.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hi Gaz
I've got a pair of those Gaspatch Spandau's to test out for my next model having previously used the kit ones. Will be interested to compare when I use them. Perfectly happy with the kit ones especially on my LVG which came out well enough.
Your kit versions look very good to me.
Can't comment on the spinner but will look back at yours when I get to my Albastross!
Cheers,
Alistair
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The Spandaus look great to me. The spinner looks to be greatly improved. Having tried reshaping the kit spinner on my first 2 DV/DVa,s I went with a spare roden spinner for my current build.
RAGIII
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Nice work on those Spandaus Gaz, they look 100% real to my eye. Going back a bit you made a great choice on the airbrush; I have an Iwata HP-C and supplemented it with a "B" version like yours a while back. I switch back and forth between the two depending on how fine a spray I need or how much paint I'm using. Great product!
Cheers,
Lance
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That spinner looks much better!
Thank you Herr Baron! I'm still not sure about the shape. I'll know better once I can dry fit it and see how it blends with the model and how much more stuff I can put on the inside and still fit the prop.
Gaz
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Beautiful work on the spinner and guns, Gaz! Those PE jackets look just fine to me.
Cheers,
Bud
Thank you, Bud!
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Hi Gaz
I've got a pair of those Gaspatch Spandau's to test out for my next model having previously used the kit ones. Will be interested to compare when I use them. Perfectly happy with the kit ones especially on my LVG which came out well enough.
Your kit versions look very good to me.
Can't comment on the spinner but will look back at yours when I get to my Albastross!
Cheers,
Alistair
Thank you Alistair. The Gaspatch guns are really the bee's knees for a nice look with less work.
Gaz
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The Spandaus look great to me. The spinner looks to be greatly improved. Having tried reshaping the kit spinner on my first 2 DV/DVa,s I went with a spare roden spinner for my current build.
RAGIII
Thanks, Mate! Did the Roden spinner fit alright? I'm thinking about making a casting of a spinner from another Roden Alby I have and pouring it in resin.
Gaz
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Nice work on those Spandaus Gaz, they look 100% real to my eye. Going back a bit you made a great choice on the airbrush; I have an Iwata HP-C and supplemented it with a "B" version like yours a while back. I switch back and forth between the two depending on how fine a spray I need or how much paint I'm using. Great product!
Cheers,
Lance
Thank you Lance! I'm really digging the new airbrush, too. I find myself using it when I need to either be very accurate or for finer lines and blotches. For Larger work and when I want to use thicker paint for quick coverage I use my Iwata HP-CR. It has really great atomization,
Gaz
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The Spandaus look great to me. The spinner looks to be greatly improved. Having tried reshaping the kit spinner on my first 2 DV/DVa,s I went with a spare roden spinner for my current build.
RAGIII
Thanks, Mate! Did the Roden spinner fit alright? I'm thinking about making a casting of a spinner from another Roden Alby I have and pouring it in resin.
Gaz
Gaz,
I had to sand the spinner very slightly to get it to line up with the WNW backing plate. Remember that Flugzuegwerk Makes a 3d printed spinner for Axial Props also.
RAGIII
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Like all the others already said, Gaz: Very nice MGs and a great work on the spinner.
Best regards
Borsos
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Thank you, Borsos!
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(https://imageshack.com/a/img921/6271/W2gkuZ.jpg)
No, it's not an igloo on a strange planet. It's the spinner of my Albatros. Once I was able to test fit the reshaped spinner, it virtually fell into the recess made by the cowls. That meant it was just too small.
So, I made a bunch of wedges. Each one 1cm long and 2mm wide at the base...ish. They were scored to help conform to the curve of the spinner. Then using Microweld, I glued them to the spinner. Here is the fit now:
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/7376/iWViKm.jpg)
Now I will have to fill the troughs with 5-second-fix and shape it all over again.
Cheers,
Gaz
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Looks like a cunning plan, Gaz!
Cheers,
Bud
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Good work Gaz!
Looks to be heading towards a perfect mould for vac-forming .
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Hard work! Remember Umlaufmotor offering a perfectly fitting 3D-printed spinner via Shapeways? ;)
Borsos
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Not hard work... just tedious. Where is umlaufmotor? Get tired of buying stuff, ya know? Should have some useful skills by now.
I don't know much about vacforming. I once made a silicon mold of a 109 spinner and poured it in resin. A few bubbles... but it worked. I was just going to do the same thing here.
Still have some fine tuning to do.
Thank ya!
Gaz
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Sorry, Umlaufmotor is Bertl, I meant Bo‘s „Flugzeugwerke“: https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?board=91.0
Borsos
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It's taken all day...
and finally three separate applications of CA to get all of the tiny divots filled... but here it is:
(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/9957/ieY4GP.jpg)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/356/S0qMjN.jpg)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/6882/vQbiFw.jpg)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/573/sNgwXu.jpg)
Now I just have to remind myself to make a mold of it before I attach it to the model for good.
Cheers,
Gaz
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Your spinner looks excellent. Really well done!
RAGIII
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Gaz,
That spinner is some pretty clever work on your part. On the one hand you could just buy one from Shapeways as Borsos mentions, on the other you could exercise some good old fashioned modelling talent as you have and produce a perfect substitute! Nicely done!
Cheers,
Lance
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Perfect! Money spent vs. time spent? Take your pick. I think you chose wisely.
Cheers,
Bud
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Perfect! Money spent vs. time spent? Take your pick. I think you chose wisely.
Cheers,
Bud
Just for the record Bos' spinner would not have worked with the prop used as it is designed for the Axial prop.
RAGIII
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Guys,
Thank you for the support! I really appreciate it.
Just for the record Bos' spinner would not have worked with the prop used as it is designed for the Axial prop.
RAGIII
Does anyone have a period photo of the Alby with an Axial prop? I don't know that I've ever seen one.
Thanks!
Gaz
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Guys,
Thank you for the support! I really appreciate it.
Just for the record Bos' spinner would not have worked with the prop used as it is designed for the Axial prop.
RAGIII
Does anyone have a period photo of the Alby with an Axial prop? I don't know that I've ever seen one.
Thanks!
Gaz
The answer is yes, there are period photos. I am attaching a link to the WNW Albatros DV. There is at least one perhaps more. On the plus side I remember reading that props were changed quite often. So an aircraft photographed one day with an Axial could have a Wolf at some other point ::) That's my story anyway :o
RAGIII
http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/productdetail?productid=27&cat=1
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Thanks for that! Bo's Axial prop spinner looks a lot better than the spinner WnW made. But I still prefer the larger, more blunt spinner.
Gaz
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Today's work... in amongst stuff done at hiome that didn't involve models:
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/6231/fLVNWP.jpg)
I've never done large fuselage decals before. Usually the national markings are the biggest I have done. But I was pleased with the way the decals laid down. I had to use my daughter's blow dryer as well as Mr. Mark softer, but eventually they laid down snugly around all of the fuselage details.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img921/481/afLiMh.jpg)
It has seemed like there was a million small things to take care of before the decals went on. Anyway I'm glad to make visible progress.
Thanks for looking,
Gaz
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Great work on everything, machine guns, the spinner, painting and decalling. All making a superb Albatros. Very well done.
Giuseppe
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Great progress Gaz, looks fantastic. That is one colorful aircraft, you should be proud.
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WOW! You have done a spectacular job on the fuselage decals. All looks fantastic. You are in about the same place on your build as me. I hope to mount the upper wing today
RAGIII
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Thank you fellas! It's only going to get more colorful as I add more national decals as well as his personal Wappen.
Gaz
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Hi Everyone,
More decals:
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/3838/ZCUegS.jpg)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img921/6017/9huzfq.jpg)
And something I hadn't realized:
(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/8830/pcejjR.jpg)
The port side Wappen is held by a heraldic rampant lion while the port side Wappen is paired with a a heraldic tyger...
...yes, I actually looked them up...
Thanks for looking!
Gaz
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Nice decal work and great research!
RAGIII
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Gaz,
Incredible colors and really great decal work! I really like this one, and you are doing really great work on it. 8) 8) 8)
Cheers,
Lance
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Brilliant decal work, Gaz! This one's well on it's way to being a real show stopper.
Cheers,
Bud
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Guys,
Thank you very much! With these biplanes there always seems to be an endless number of 'little things' that get in the way of the 'next step'. For instance, even though the main decals were done, I still had a couple hours on the stencils. Then... I still had to paint the Teeves und Braun radiator which was still attached to the sprues. I try not to have too many parts adrift, or sitting in tiny cups...
Anyway... having taken care of some chipping, I now have to seal all of those decals so I can weather. I prefer light weathering, but it's going to be work trying to raise those metal details that are hidden in the Bavarian Lozenge.
Does anyone have a system that smooths out the process?
Gaz
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Looking great! Really nice work all round, she will look fantastic when she is all assembled.
I realise now that I am doing the same Albatros. I hope it turns out half as good as yours..... ;)
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"Does anyone have a system that smooths out the process?
Gaz,
If I am reading your question correctly I use a sealing coat of Future over the decals, then weather with oil based washes etc. The oil based weathering is easily removed or reduced with white spirits without damaging the base coat or decals if you find you've over done it.
Hope this is of some help.
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking great! Really nice work all round, she will look fantastic when she is all assembled.
I realise now that I am doing the same Albatros. I hope it turns out half as good as yours..... ;)
Nigel, Thank you very much. I'm sure yours will look great, and I'm looking forward to seeing how yours looks.
Gaz
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"Does anyone have a system that smooths out the process?
Gaz,
If I am reading your question correctly I use a sealing coat of Future over the decals, then weather with oil based washes etc. The oil based weathering is easily removed or reduced with white spirits without damaging the base coat or decals if you find you've over done it.
Hope this is of some help.
Cheers,
Lance
Lance,
Actually, what I meant was what they do with all of the little things that seem to impede me between major steps. Parts preparation, a way of storing prepared parts that keeps them from being lost or damaged. For instance, there is a little PE panel that goes between the MG's. It's painted the same color as the struts, cowls, and other hardware. But still, it was process on it's own as I left it until this point in the build to touch. Even now, the pipes that lead from the radiator to the engine are still on the sprue, safe from loss and damage... but still requiring attention later.
Does that make more sense?
Thanks,
Gaz
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Wow that scheme is looking really good. Wonderful work on the decals - those checkers on the fuselage would give me the shakes.
I keep all my processed parts in Tupperware like kitchen plastic containers - Sistema for example. They can be completely closed up and so no chance of losing them. I like to process the small parts while waiting for other parts to cure - especially when waiting for oils to dry. If the part number is important I trim it off the sprue excepting for the number - especially important for things like struts. So on my LVG every other part is now ready while I slowly work through the application of the lozenges. I also only work on one model at a time so there is no chance of confusing parts!
Cheers
Alistair
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Beautiful work, Gaz. Terrific decaling.Top!!!
Bye,
Manni
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Wow that scheme is looking really good. Wonderful work on the decals - those checkers on the fuselage would give me the shakes.
I keep all my processed parts in Tupperware like kitchen plastic containers - Sistema for example. They can be completely closed up and so no chance of losing them. I like to process the small parts while waiting for other parts to cure - especially when waiting for oils to dry. If the part number is important I trim it off the sprue excepting for the number - especially important for things like struts. So on my LVG every other part is now ready while I slowly work through the application of the lozenges. I also only work on one model at a time so there is no chance of confusing parts!
Cheers
Alistair
Thank you Alistair. I appreciate knowing how you do all of your other parts. I will definitely try to organize myself better.
I have to admit, working with such large decals did scare me at first. But they attached themselves very well and were really nice to work with.
I did something I've never done before, and that was painting the to-be-decaled area with clean water to add a little bit of lubrication before I laid down the decal. I found that it helped in allowing me to move the decal as well as eliminate some silvering, too, especially on the Wappen where there is some clear film.
...And the hair dryer, too. I've never used one before, just letting everything dry at it's own speed. I may just buy one for myself as I found it really convenient to help the decal conform to the surface detail much quicker.
Gaz
For safety, there is an extra strip of blue/white lozenge and a solid piece of blue that is 1cmX2cm provided on the decal sheet. There are some tiny alignment flaws on the belly that I should use some of the extras on, but I haven't got to it yet.
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Gaz, the result so far is something astonishing. I am always worried thinking about large decals covering big parts such as wings and fuselage (i.e. lozenges and similar).
Your work is perfect!
Antonio
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Thank you Manni and Antonio! They're really great decals.
Gaz
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Hi everyone,
I feel like I have a million miles to go yet I know the end is quite near. Some pics with text in the pics:
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img924/268/A0PnH8.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img924/3705/DS8SL5.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img923/193/7f9CnF.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img924/7006/IzcOAV.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img923/6681/Anvk1G.jpg)
Thank you for looking!
Gaz
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Really looking terrific! That albatros color scheme is one of the best looking of all in my opinion, and you are truly knocking this one out of the park!
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Beautifully done Gaz. What a great looking bird done in your usual great style.
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Guys,
Thank you very much!
Gaz
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The more you show the better it gets! Just Awesome work on this scheme!
RAGIII
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Really eyecatching livery, and the overall look is great.
Giuseppe
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Thank you, Gentlemen!
Just an update before I go under the knife. Just a minor procedure... nothing to worry about as long as I don't get a secondary infection... Just a navel hernia.
Anyway...here she is:
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/5691/Zkm5Wg.jpg)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/5844/XIEUlS.jpg)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img921/5342/zhvaky.jpg)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/8548/b8EaX8.jpg)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/6370/X24s8R.jpg)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/2064/BxVkx4.jpg)
After failing to fit the original lines I rigged, I tried stretched sprue. The sprue didn't work because it got permanent bend marks in it from the action of fitting it. In the end I used new pieces of fishing line to put the four cables in.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/5807/PZKI4X.jpg)
Thank you for looking!
Gaz
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And looking very snazzy in that livery!
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Outstanding Gaz!
You should be proud of this gem. World class modelling.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Thats a wonderful Albatros in one of the prettiest color schemes that I know. Outstanding and even more for a first WNW kit!
Andreas
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Gorgeous work! I know from your post in the Hints and Tips section that you had a little trouble with breaking struts and dihedral! You have certainly overcome those issues! You are now officially one step further along on your build than me in that you have the Aileron control Lines rigged ;D
RAGIII
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Beautiful work. She stands up to close up pics perfectly.
Steve
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Brilliant work mate! A truly beautiful plane.
Cheers
Alistair
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Thank you for your kind replies, everyone!
I'll have to let her sit until I can bend and contort easily. Just back from my surgery and am contemplating how to build without breaking stitches.
Gaz
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She looks like a keeper, Gaz!
Lovely build ;)
Wishing you a speedy recovery :)
Von B
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Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery Gaz!
Cheers,
Lance
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Thank you, fellas!
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Beautiful work and great photos too !!
ED
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Hello, Gaz! What a beautiful Albatros you have: excellent work! Good luck to you with your medical procedure. I'm sure that you will be up and about, and back to modelling, in short time! 8)
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Thank you everyone for the good-wishes and positive comments about the Albatros. So far I'm healing up alright with no bad after effects from the surgery.
I'd rather be rigging, though.
Gaz
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Glad to read these positive news Gaz!
Antonio
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Excellent work, looks really good. It's all come together really well.
Now I really am copying you. Not only do I have the same Albatros on the go, I am having hernia surgery on July 26th! Best of luck with the op. I plan to use my recovery time for modelling (as it's a great excuse for not doing decorating/gardening.....).
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Thank you fellas!
I'm healing well after the surgery, but I'll tell you the hardest thing... Picking up dropped stuff. I have a pair of long barbecue tongs:
(https://images.kitchenwaredirect.com.au/750px/Chef-Inox-BBQ-Tongs-Clip-S-S-40cm_1a_750px.jpg)
that I have been using for large parts. I haven't been rigging because I dread dropping and trying to find any Bob's Buckles eyelets or tubes. But in a few days I think I'm going to start.
Tomorrow, the missus and I are having a few days away from home as a little getaway.
Hope everything goes well for you, Nigel.
Best of luck!
Gaz
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Wonderful work, Gaz! Glad to hear that you are recovering quick.
All the best,
Manni
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Take your time to get well, Gaz, I wish you a problem free recovery. And that Albatros is and stays a beauty, if you rig her next week or next month
Andreas
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Picking up dropped stuff. I have a pair of long barbecue tongs:
Hope everything goes well for you, Nigel.
Better get me some of them. This is my second hernia op, so I know what to expect!
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Picking up dropped stuff. I have a pair of long barbecue tongs:
Hope everything goes well for you, Nigel.
Better get me some of them. This is my second hernia op, so I know what to expect!
Thank you for the praise and well-wishes everyone!
Nigel, a white towel in the lap will help, too.
Gaz
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Hi everyone,
Finally got the rigging done and am ready to move on to another kit. Thank you for following and your great support!
There are more pictures in the completed models section:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9689.0 (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9689.0)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img921/439/a9fvQe.jpg)
Gaz
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Nice work across the finish line!!
Steve
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Thank you, Steve!