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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: GazzaS on March 11, 2018, 04:31:07 PM

Title: A Roden Albatross D.III (completed 22/3/18)
Post by: GazzaS on March 11, 2018, 04:31:07 PM
Hi Everyone,
    I started this a while ago and have slowly been getting closer to the rigging stage.

Then engine was Aftermarket.
(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos7000/photos/1377518/20171230/b_133127.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos7000/photos/1377518/20171230/b_133113.jpg)

Later I decided I needed the Eduard PE
(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos7000/photos/1377518/20180122/b_132735.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos7000/photos/1377518/20180122/b_132840.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos7000/photos/1377518/20180122/b_132913.jpg)

My First serious attempt at wood, I tried to replicate unstained plywood.
(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos7000/photos/1377518/20180204/b_111941.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos7000/photos/1377518/20180204/b_112042.jpg)

After many coats of Tamiya Clears, I reached a deep honey tone.
(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos7000/photos/1377518/20180207/b_143219.jpg)

Then decided which scheme I would use.  The Pilot is Karl Bolle.
(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos7000/photos/1377518/20180211/b_084523.jpg)

Finally got the lower wing on and some painting and decals done.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/4552/7qARLY.jpg)

(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/7138/ji855t.jpg)

(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/9927/STIYEs.jpg)

I've done some mild weathering, and am letting it dry for a few days after oil streaking.

Thanks for looking,

Gaz




Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: gbrivio on March 11, 2018, 04:40:36 PM
Very nice so far, you made a very convincing plywood and an interesting livery.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: RAGIII on March 11, 2018, 05:30:02 PM
Really well done to date. I love the paint work! Nice to see another Roden Albatros being built!
RAGIII
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: GazzaS on March 11, 2018, 06:45:39 PM
Gentlemen,
   Thank you very much!  Although this kit has potential, I think I will have to build another before I get things right.

Gaz
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: rhwinter on March 11, 2018, 08:07:48 PM
Beautiful! (Love the D.III so much more than the D.V!)
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: RLWP on March 11, 2018, 08:22:26 PM
Gentlemen,
   Thank you very much!  Although this kit has potential, I think I will have to build another before I get things right.

Gaz

Hah! Another one!

I don't think I have got a single model 'right' yet...

Good to see this build here Gaz, I'd forgotten about that wrapping on the engine. The engine has a lovely used feel to it

You already know I think your plywood is great, lovely and subtle. The stuff they used must have had some quality to it otherwise they couldn't have made it as thin as they did. It's not unusual to see paint finishes that look like they are made from shuttering plywood

Richard
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: Gilly on March 11, 2018, 09:45:18 PM
Fantastic work Gaz, I look forward to watching this build develop. I also like your jig, where did you obtain that from ?, I have a wooden one very similar in construction however a plastic one would be much better for me.
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: Juan on March 11, 2018, 10:47:12 PM
Great build Gaz, she certainly looks the part.  Outstanding looking engine and wood tones (heck, everything).  Looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: GazzaS on March 12, 2018, 04:05:31 AM
Beautiful! (Love the D.III so much more than the D.V!)

Thank you!  I think we both feel the same.
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: GazzaS on March 12, 2018, 04:13:18 AM
Gentlemen,
   Thank you very much!  Although this kit has potential, I think I will have to build another before I get things right.

Gaz

Hah! Another one!

I don't think I have got a single model 'right' yet...

Good to see this build here Gaz, I'd forgotten about that wrapping on the engine. The engine has a lovely used feel to it

You already know I think your plywood is great, lovely and subtle. The stuff they used must have had some quality to it otherwise they couldn't have made it as thin as they did. It's not unusual to see paint finishes that look like they are made from shuttering plywood

Richard

Thank you Richard.  What I meant by 'another one' was about the things I didn't know about the kit before hand.  This kit has a few idiosyncracies that I wasn't really expecting, like the interior framing being substantially narrower than the shell.  Or thinning the intake pipes before I put tape on them.   

I think that aircraft manufacturers back then were better than we want to give them credit for.   I think they had aircraft grade plywood long before it ever became a part of aviation vernacular.

Gaz
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: GazzaS on March 12, 2018, 04:15:17 AM
Fantastic work Gaz, I look forward to watching this build develop. I also like your jig, where did you obtain that from ?, I have a wooden one very similar in construction however a plastic one would be much better for me.

Gilly,
Thank you!  I got mine from BNA model world.  But the jig itself is made by a company called 'Vertigo Miniatures'.  They have a few different jigs for various scales.

Gaz
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: GazzaS on March 12, 2018, 04:15:51 AM
Juan,
   Thank you!
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: PrzemoL on March 12, 2018, 04:57:51 AM
Lovely work on sth that is not WNW!
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: Borsos on March 12, 2018, 05:34:06 AM
Very nice! it's always a joy to see an early Albatros!
Best regards
Borsos
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: GazzaS on March 12, 2018, 04:07:41 PM
Przemol and Borsos,
   Thank you very much! 
There are quite a few times I have wished that WnW would come out with the early Albatros.  AS it is, I may have to get the D.I and D.II from Roden.  A saw a piece of video from the Albatros works, and it's amazing how the wood panels looked fresh from the factory.

Gaz
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: Manni on March 12, 2018, 04:15:06 PM
Beautiful build, the wood looks great as the entire plane does.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: GazzaS on March 12, 2018, 04:31:26 PM
Thank you, Manni!

I had to translate "Warum nach mehr Bausatze" for my wife.

Her favorite question to me is:  'Another parcel??'

Gaz
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: Gilly on March 12, 2018, 08:01:48 PM
Fantastic work Gaz, I look forward to watching this build develop. I also like your jig, where did you obtain that from ?, I have a wooden one very similar in construction however a plastic one would be much better for me.

Gilly,
Thank you!  I got mine from BNA model world.  But the jig itself is made by a company called 'Vertigo Miniatures'.  They have a few different jigs for various scales.

Gaz

Thank you Gaz, thats very helpful. One will be winging its way towards me this week. I have this kit and will be following your build closely and hope one day to try to do the kit justice as you have done.

Mark


Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: mgunns on March 13, 2018, 01:58:23 PM
I like your approach to the wood finish on this model.  Very convincing yet simple techniques, nicely done.  You have made the engine look like a combat veteran with the goodies and weathering, again, very nicely done.  It's nice to see a Roden DIII in the mix on the forum, you are doing outstanding work on it and I look forward to continue to follow along.
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: GazzaS on March 13, 2018, 03:35:42 PM
Guys, thank you very much!  It's motivating to me to see that you like the way the Albatross is progressing.

Gaz
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: Karimb on March 14, 2018, 05:32:32 PM
Hey Gaz!
Great to have you here too buddy!
K
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: GazzaS on March 14, 2018, 06:00:33 PM
HI Karim!
    Great to see you, too!

Gaz
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: GazzaS on March 17, 2018, 09:56:21 AM
Hi Again,
    This week I went to my local fishing supply shop only to find that they had no fly-tying supplies.  I was after lead wire, and monofilament line of .15mm diameter.

The lead wire was for the bungees around the landing gear shaft.  And the fine line was for the main rigging.  I have some EZline for use on smaller pieces of rigging.  After some experimentation, I've decided that there is a time and a place for both.

Since I last wrote, I have inserted Bob's Buckles eyelets in all of the appropriate holes (I think!).  I also smattered the undereside in an attempt to make a realistic mess from the turning main wheels.

Finally, I added an oil streak along the belly.  Pictures of crashed Roland C.II show a long streak of oil that reaches all of the way to the tail.  I couldn't find a good belly-shot of a long-service D.III, so I ran a longish streak.

I don't have the patience to wait for lead wire to arrive by mail.  So, I turned to a reliable chord that is more supple than the copper wire I do have.

Green silk thread.  I bought it a while ago for some long-defunct project, and have found it comes in handy occasionally.  The main bonus of silk thread is that it isn't fuzzy like cotton line.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/9430/A6Cqbl.jpg)

When I originally attached the elevator, I attached the Eduard PE control horns.  They were nice and thin, but I had a helluva time getting rigging to stick to them at the proper angles.  So, I removed them and replaced them with the Roden kit parts which I was able to notch with a knife after making them a little more aerodynamic.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/8835/j2fRGI.jpg)

So now I will paint my green silk thread in a bungee-grey-white, rig the undercarriage, and pray that when I put the wheels on, that it doesn't lean to either side.

Thanks for looking,

Gaz
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: GAJouette on March 17, 2018, 12:23:00 PM
 Gaz,
Your D.III just gets better and better with each update my friend. Keep up the excellence.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: RAGIII on March 17, 2018, 07:08:12 PM
Excellent update. I really like what you are doing with the weathering. Nice work on the bungees!
RAGIII
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: GazzaS on March 17, 2018, 07:23:30 PM
Guys,
   Thank you very much!

Gaz
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: jeroen_R90S on March 18, 2018, 07:36:50 AM
Very cool -together with RAGIIIs OAW D.III it makes me want to start my own Roden D.III! :)
Not scheme you often, as well. The splattering looks cool, too.
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: GazzaS on March 18, 2018, 02:37:03 PM
Jeroen,
    Thank you!
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: dr 1 ace on March 21, 2018, 09:44:48 AM
Agree with all the above comments, a beautiful bird in progress !

ED
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III
Post by: GazzaS on March 21, 2018, 03:48:16 PM
Thank you, Ed!
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III (completed 22/3/18)
Post by: GazzaS on March 22, 2018, 05:45:54 PM
Hi Everyone,
    Two years ago I came to this site while building my first Biplane.  I was very unhappy with the result, and I didn't post here again until a few weeks ago.

Here are my two biplanes together:
(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/6293/rSjeFr.jpg)

(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/9354/ZS4SI4.jpg)

I'd like to thank all of you for sharing this build with me.  There are more photos on the Completed forum here:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9426.0 (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9426.0)

Gaz
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III (completed 22/3/18)
Post by: pepperman42 on March 22, 2018, 11:26:40 PM
Your learning curve was amazing!! Nice work

Steve
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III (completed 22/3/18)
Post by: GazzaS on March 23, 2018, 03:53:33 PM
Thank you, Dave!
Title: Re: A Roden Albatross D.III (completed 22/3/18)
Post by: RAGIII on March 23, 2018, 06:00:02 PM
I have enjoyed following your build. Excellent results. I will comment more in the completed thread!
RAGIII