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Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: Bughunter on March 08, 2018, 06:19:09 AM
Bristol F.2B Fighter  
 



After the finished Nieuport I had no desire to continue with already started projects, so I could not resist to try another one.


But: What did I do?


To see, if I'm able to handle that specific model I started with the wings.

Primed with Alclad white:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1uke-RlQJa_nxP5DN0ccMjF2TORH-KtPe)


With MrPaint airbrushed with white, a huge number of precut masks loomed into the picture!
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Ci-Mm0fIscaJ53-bSnQYafDajR0syP5t)


And now the imposition (see the question above): the wings masked on three side with little squares. On the place of the cockade I added self cut masks.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1rrJwPm3XvsfIk5OGUiQhjFbcdLnkmKyX)


After painting with Gunze red H3 I removed the masks. Yes I know, there are discussions about the color, it could also be black, but I like the red more for such colorful biplane.
The result on upper side ...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1E6_JZHNoEAz0NTgfufZHQjHNQqR_ZEjM)


.. and the bottom sides. Here and there some small problems but ok at all.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1mU5wJ3qTFxMZJh0r5ZORAOaZwg_YiJIp)


So I will build "The corocodile":
(https://www.eduard.com/store/out/pictures/z1/1127.jpg)
Source:eduard.com

There you can see the kit content:
https://www.eduard.com/store/Eduard/BRISTOL-F-2B-FIGHTER-THE-CROCODILE-1-48.html

It looks like that it may work. So I can continue with the fuselage.

Is there a interest in a build report?

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: jeroen_R90S on March 08, 2018, 07:07:22 AM
Yes please! I may not comment all the time (still feeling a bit guilty about that in general) but I enjoy reading your build logs immensely.
I have to say that all those red-and-white squares look a lot better than my rather simple red/white bands on my 1/32 D.VII... After a few tries they're finally on a bit as I had them in mind (albeit ending up with a bit of a thickish coat of paint)

Look forward to more!
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Borsos on March 08, 2018, 07:33:44 AM
of course Frank, come along with it!
Andreas
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: rayb24 on March 08, 2018, 02:57:12 PM
I really like the build logs, I see them too for reference. So yes please...
Ray
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Manni on March 08, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
Oh my...Frank...one of my favourite schemes....done by you. I know this will end up as a stunner! I would also choose the red squares. May be one day I will bulid mine, too. Found the dacals for a 1:32md kit.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Juan on March 08, 2018, 10:17:21 PM
Wow Frank, great start to what I am sure will be a super build.   :D
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: fredjocko on March 08, 2018, 11:13:42 PM
That is too cool!!
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on March 09, 2018, 02:01:46 AM
Great masking and paint work! You are off to another terrific Model!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: gbrivio on March 09, 2018, 07:36:26 AM
It will be highly appreciated and will be a wonder, I'm sure. 8)
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on March 09, 2018, 08:24:50 AM
A warm welcome to all of you!
Due to exhibitions and other things in the next weeks, the progress will be slower. Also spring is coming slowly, which increases my outdoor activities. So a little patience please ;)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: andonio64 on March 10, 2018, 03:29:06 AM
Another interesting thread in 48, I'm in the first row!

;-)
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on March 10, 2018, 07:21:04 AM
Just found this Frank. I always enjoy the out-of-the-way aircraft or those with colourful schemes. This fits the bill nicely and you will give us another masterpiece i due course.

Stephen.
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 20.4.2018 Cooler
Post by: Bughunter on April 21, 2018, 07:22:17 AM
Antonio and Stephen, welcome to the show!


Cooler


Due to exhibitions (next weekend I will be in Wilnsdorf/Germany), Easter holiday, and some important things I had not really time for working on this project. But a little progress I have not shown yet.

My sources of information are now complete: beside the Datafile 115 I use the Special-Edition Vol. 1 and 2. The Specials contains some nice color detail pictures.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=19Z1s7k8P_3Na2Jo0dsfjIiOq0HOTzwj3)


Today I want to show the cooler. I a own update? Yes!

Eduard offers two variants for the shutter in front of the cooler, one completely open:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1xSULlpiOttn8jyDFw_xIfyyvER9il-Zu)

and closed:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=14hYvYaUU7fGMRjzZT8ty29QMxUK-9Gyu)


Both are to thick, it would be possible to sand them down. But I want to have a half open setting, so that one can see the cooler and the teeth of "THE CROCODILE".

Then I found a PE set by Parts, It is for a Roden kit but I think I can use some brass also here.
(https://www.super-hobby.com/zdjecia/3/2/3/4195_rd.jpg)
Quelle: super-hobby.com


From left to right:
- The (slightly modified) cooler from Eduard. The instructions showed brass colors, but I used black because it is only in the background.
- The cooler from the Part kit, a perforated etched part. Since it was completely designed as a network (there were different engines and coolers), I soldered the upper part. The colors are then tinned and burnished, bright brass looked too new to me
- The shutter from the part set. I tried to bend the individual slats slightly
- The retaining plates for the shutter
- on top is the outer frame
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=16o0M_zPNF6VQ1ZjZPEHdXTzfbYt4SowB)


After a layer Gunze Mr.Metal Primer I added the decal. The lowest and top margin of the decal was cut away and applied to the cooler.
After a short drying time I cutted the decal with a new scalpel blade and bent the slats.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=125wzegWKBj_6V1AmAQdrtKqYHurJgI1a)


Comparison with original, the kinks in the slats are visible too.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=12u9_1mFdUjisaC93SUpcAmmgHRxIs0Pz)


Later I glued the frame to the cooler and added the slat holder.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1VyR6-GnUZIZoVVfa3ctbJpHCafkiOgOW)


The sub assembly on the Eduard cooler, which will be glued at first to the fuselage.
It was a lot of work, but I like the final impression. I hope the decals will stay on the metal!
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1zsZxqDgMnbwGbJqvwWYQugB3Y3-Wf_Hn)


From time to time a worked on the air screw, here after rough grinding:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1UDnaH8C4PKNBe6BoGgeHLUI_DRxRuL8k)


And painted with different colors:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1srdjV-RDke8SY9S9RgY13Xk9iJlyRgOt)


The Fighter used different air screws: two blades, four blades, with metal edges, with gray fabric? cover ...
"THE CROCODILE" used a two blades with grey tips.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: lcarroll on April 21, 2018, 08:42:18 AM
Frank,
     I don't know how I missed this earlier, what a great scheme and already looking like a real winner. The prop is really a superb addition (as usual!) and you really got the wing masking done perfectly. I'll be following this project very closely, as Manni has said it promises to be a stunner!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Juan on April 21, 2018, 08:47:57 AM
Truly spectacular Frank, your workmanship never stops amazing me.  Looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on April 21, 2018, 03:38:07 PM
Your work on the shutters and radiator is beautiful! Not unexpected from your talented hands!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: gbrivio on April 21, 2018, 04:00:36 PM
Gorgeous update.
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: pepperman42 on April 21, 2018, 09:12:26 PM
Excellent work!!

Steve
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Borsos on April 21, 2018, 11:16:09 PM
“A Radiator? This is no radiator. THAT is a radiator!” Very nice radiator for your flying Crocodile.
Andreas Dundee
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on April 22, 2018, 01:13:55 AM
Thank you Lance, Juan, Rick, Giuseppe, Steve and Dundee :D for your comments!

And thank you for the information, that I used the wrong english word ::)
Radiator makes more sens, because the warm water heats up the air around.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on April 22, 2018, 11:31:28 AM
The wings came out fantastically!  Looking forward to seeing it all together.

Gaz
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7/6/2018 Wicker chair
Post by: Bughunter on July 07, 2018, 06:12:45 AM
Thank you, Gaz!


Wicker chair


After the "Daisy cutter" diorama project (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9646.0) and a Ford model T in 1/24 (the Delivery car, the Touring was build two years ago) for our living room ...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1otdR4FSOdhIpBOTGu8wjvz1Ax4D2ANbu)


... I'm back to my main concern and continue to work on the Brisfit.


With three PE parts and some plastic I soldered and glued the wicker chair.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1L712DvqoYPWzKxobQDuQHARYnsJ5Az6B)


The backrest is made of two parts, to have a structure from both sides.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1WxMNQingQQ2z-iOG9td-hZvFtWZXXS-y)


I need two tries for the painting, because the first was much to yellow. The dot do not disturb ...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1JUriKNLh1SLDtoixf6pRLJ-waVxZFqWk)


... because it will be covered by cushion.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Kfkbj_nLckegcTpdX3hvYjQ6w0fQojby)


For coloring I used this picture:
(http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/sites/default/files/styles/media_gallery_large/public/images/bristol-f2b-walkaround/f2b-walkaround-085.jpg)
Source: thevintageaviator.co.nz


In the back is also some sisal floor visible. The observer/gunner has a more stable stand on it. I tried to reproduce it with paper handkerchief, but it failed. So I used here those modern tea bags with a very fine gauze.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=19S67Eo58g5eG7f229diUnN4MDO7V9sjM)


Another picture shows the back of the cockpit as fabric:
(http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/sites/default/files/styles/media_gallery_large/public/images/bristol-f2b-walkaround/f2b-walkaround-074.jpg)
Source: thevintageaviator.co.nz


Eduard has done it right, also the strips, but no bag, so I made one from 0,1mm fabric (HGW seat belts framing). The wall is MRP bleached linen, the bag with MRP linen.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1-d4iTpKaKtXl505aEzs6ppsOvpHy_aQw)


There is still a lot of work to do for the cockpit, e.g. funny things like a window on the floor!
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1U9S8CXYX_UCjfM3VpCkVI2ESKdr6-Hr6)


Two layers of pear veneer cutted in strips for the struts ...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1oIQgLDSARvXfZJepz9vvvLB0MSW2ZiFk)


... after a lot of sanding.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1hRbNZXzehJXztbCJoGMR-f3-6oMdVWVI)


I hope you remember this project!


Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: lcarroll on July 07, 2018, 06:29:17 AM
    Oh my Frank, what an update, I don't know what to comment on first!
    The Ford Model T's are beautifully done and the details for the "Bif" just keep getting better. That seat is a real piece of art, great multi-media work and the pear wood struts are a really impressive addition. All these extra details with those you illustrated earlier are going to put this model in a class of her own!
    Simply outstanding work!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 07, 2018, 06:46:32 AM
    Oh my Frank, what an update, I don't know what to comment on first!
    The Ford Model T's are beautifully done and the details for the "Bif" just keep getting better. That seat is a real piece of art, great multi-media work and the pear wood struts are a really impressive addition. All these extra details with those you illustrated earlier are going to put this model in a class of her own!
    Simply outstanding work!
Cheers,
Lance

Since I can't say it any better than Lance, I will simply agree wholeheartedly!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Juan on July 07, 2018, 07:38:46 AM
I third Lance's comments.  You are very skilled Sir.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Borsos on July 07, 2018, 08:32:49 AM
Womderful Frank, simply wonderful; how good to see you back on this one. I also love your Ford-t and -- ceterum censeo that tea bags are one of the most underestimated materials in model building...
Will we meet in Stammheim next weekend?
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on July 07, 2018, 08:44:05 AM
Wow Frank, what fantastic detail you do!  I really like your struts, and will have to remember that when I have need for wooden struts in the future.  Love the other stuff too!

Gaz
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on July 07, 2018, 11:12:11 AM
Beautiful work on the wicker chair and the struts!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: gbrivio on July 07, 2018, 03:01:21 PM
I join the enthusiastic comments on your detail works and the beautiful cars.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: andonio64 on July 07, 2018, 04:38:25 PM
Ditto - as above!!!!
Fantastic!
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on July 07, 2018, 04:47:57 PM
Simply amazing work Frank.

Guy
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on July 08, 2018, 07:30:24 AM
I join the enthusiastic comments
I have to say Thank you very much for all your enthusiastic comments, my friends!

Andreas sorry, no Stammheim next weekend :(

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Manni on July 09, 2018, 03:50:05 PM
Stunning work, Frank. I admire your talent regarding those little details,
Bye,
Manni
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 13.7.2018 RAF wires
Post by: Bughunter on July 14, 2018, 08:47:06 AM
Thanks Manni, if you love little details, you will love this update too!


RAF-Wires


Today I have some macros for my friends of micro mechanics!
This update handles the rigging with RAF wires. I will use the flat EZ-line, but I need some mounting. For the Brisfit I developed a new system, which combines ideas from my D.H.2 Stripdown and my Sopwith Pup.

At first I need 16 plates on the struts. A rest of a PE set drilled with 0,5mm, cutted, put on a drill shaft and soldered. For the risk of loosing some I added two more.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1RmOk1jZVFxq4ehO55IbLBPnfVj1KTd6I)


This pack was milled in form:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1XLSp_ga02RnVKRlFzsWs8w86KW6Gcv3Z)


The size matches the parts of the CSM Dolphin, the wide finger is for the double wire.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1ith7WVPGzd-eZOY84VsmEhdkxHpDCxoq)


The parts are separated. During the desolder I got some 4-parts pack, so I removed some fingers.
After that I added 0,5mm brass pipes. On the picture 52 drill holes are missing, done already. Unless I am very much mistaken the symmetric parts should match. Only the "flying wires" are double, the landing wires are singles.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=174IlEsaeZ3_50H9twHJYJOEIj5V9Mm9d)


To the strut the pipe is very short, just to keep a small distance.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1HQkcRfzjuLxH7fRRQ3P07rP8kDIAdzSl)


The connectors made of 0,5mm brass pipe are in preparation, slotted and crimped. Some holes are missing. For the struts I need 52, 36 are done.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1FBzNHmR3-8yO8u0YU4SrbN1lVqivEIX2)


On the end I made a thickening of 0,7mm pipe, tinned and mounted with 0,2mm nickel silver. Only one prototype is done.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1pmMor8a8RnMuAmSlFkM4LarC0yfTVzHA)


With a plugged strut it looks great. This mounts can be prepared and mounted with the struts. For the rigging I just need to plug in EZ-line and secure it with CA.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1653MMJ3smRNVZZYq8kleCEwQAt4a7kIT)


In 1:48 one can hardly find a more original solution?
With that preparation I hope to be able to finish the rigging task fast.
Now I just need to create some more pipes ...

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Juan on July 14, 2018, 09:07:03 AM
Frank, you are no mere mortal.  Incredible work.....  :o
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: lcarroll on July 14, 2018, 12:03:21 PM
Frank,
    You are again exercising your pure magic on details, just incredible work and even more so in 1;48 Scale! I truly envy your soldering skills, I wouldn't be able to match this in 1:32 Scale. Great work and this promises to be a really outstanding model! 8) 8) 8)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 14, 2018, 07:55:51 PM
Incredible work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: gbrivio on July 14, 2018, 09:46:30 PM
This is pure magic! I envy your sight and dexterity, you made real details in true scale. Chapeau!
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on July 15, 2018, 03:51:20 AM
Why can’t I see the photos Frank?  Sounds like everyone else can...  ???


Guy
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on July 15, 2018, 05:31:23 AM
Guy, I guess a iPad?

Try to load this URL in your address line, this is the address of the last picture:
http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1653MMJ3smRNVZZYq8kleCEwQAt4a7kIT

Some browsers seems not to load such pictures from Google into the page for some strange reason. If the picture loads then it is not a problem with access rights.
For me Firefox and Chrome are working, on the company machine also in MS Explorer.

Hope it helps,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 13.7.2018 RAF wires
Post by: the great waldo on July 15, 2018, 04:15:46 PM
Thanks Manni, if you love little details, you will love this update too!


RAF-Wires


Today I have some macros for my friends of micro mechanics!
This update handles the rigging with RAF wires. I will use the flat EZ-line, but I need some mounting. For the Brisfit I developed a new system, which combines ideas from my D.H.2 Stripdown and my Sopwith Pup.

At first I need 16 plates on the struts. A rest of a PE set drilled with 0,5mm, cutted, put on a drill shaft and soldered. For the risk of loosing some I added two more.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1RmOk1jZVFxq4ehO55IbLBPnfVj1KTd6I)


This pack was milled in form:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1XLSp_ga02RnVKRlFzsWs8w86KW6Gcv3Z)


The size matches the parts of the CSM Dolphin, the wide finger is for the double wire.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1ith7WVPGzd-eZOY84VsmEhdkxHpDCxoq)


The parts are separated. During the desolder I got some 4-parts pack, so I removed some fingers.
After that I added 0,5mm brass pipes. On the picture 52 drill holes are missing, done already. Unless I am very much mistaken the symmetric parts should match. Only the "flying wires" are double, the landing wires are singles.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=174IlEsaeZ3_50H9twHJYJOEIj5V9Mm9d)


To the strut the pipe is very short, just to keep a small distance.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1HQkcRfzjuLxH7fRRQ3P07rP8kDIAdzSl)


The connectors made of 0,5mm brass pipe are in preparation, slotted and crimped. Some holes are missing. For the struts I need 52, 36 are done.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1FBzNHmR3-8yO8u0YU4SrbN1lVqivEIX2)


On the end I made a thickening of 0,7mm pipe, tinned and mounted with 0,2mm nickel silver. Only one prototype is done.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1pmMor8a8RnMuAmSlFkM4LarC0yfTVzHA)


With a plugged strut it looks great. This mounts can be prepared and mounted with the struts. For the rigging I just need to plug in EZ-line and secure it with CA.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1653MMJ3smRNVZZYq8kleCEwQAt4a7kIT)


In 1:48 one can hardly find a more original solution?
With that preparation I hope to be able to finish the rigging task fast.
Now I just need to create some more pipes ...

Cheers,
Frank

Hi Frank
Can you please let me know what you used to put the slots in the tubing before crimping ?
Cheers

Andrew
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on July 15, 2018, 05:58:00 PM
Thanks Frank,

I can see them this morning on my phone.. maybe just the iPad?

Great work

Guy
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on July 15, 2018, 06:04:00 PM
Ps just looked at the work properly..

I’m lost for words.. I might as well take up flower arranging  ???

Guy
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on July 15, 2018, 06:13:32 PM
That is just amazing!
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on July 16, 2018, 05:48:37 AM
Thank you very much for your comments Juan, Lance, RAGIII, Guy, Giuseppe, Andrew and GazzaS!

Frank, you are no mere mortal.
I was born on this planet, but sometimes I wish to come from somewhere else to have more usable hands! Two are often really not enough ;)


Can you please let me know what you used to put the slots in the tubing before crimping ?
Andrew, I use a etched saw from http://www.radubstore.com
I don't know, which one I bought. The blad is 0,08mm thin:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1YpT113Zd8Imw-OUH1n0fMIxjyC4342gm)


Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: the great waldo on July 16, 2018, 06:45:28 AM
Hi Frank
Thanks for the info.

Cheers

Andrew
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 16, 2018, 06:18:32 PM
Truly amazing and inspirational work!
RAGIII
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 16.7.2018 Instrument Panel
Post by: Bughunter on July 17, 2018, 06:05:08 AM
Instrument panel



Now I have to take care for the cockpit, if I want to close the fuselage soon.


The engine is only a dummy, in opposite to the bigger 1/32 WNW kit with a complete engine. But after close there is nothing to see so this solution is ok. Sorry, I forgot a picture after detail painting and washing.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1t0QC89w4CsJr7lB0SvDQ1leWgzDCtPNJ)


There are three knobs visible. Normally here the bullet drums for the one or two Lewis are mounted, so that is ok.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=16p5jlUj10vrJyjt8cNPmwDYSQYSN42c0)


But my Crocodile hasn't fit a Lewis, only the empty frame. So the drums do not make sense here. On the other hand the knobs ae bit thick to let them as it is, look here:
(http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/sites/default/files/styles/media_gallery_large/public/images/bristol-f2b-walkaround/f2b-walkaround-088.jpg)
Source: thevintageaviator.co.nz


So I use slightly browned, inside chamfered 0,6mm nickel silver pipes. I will take artistic freedom and will plug one "forgotten, empty" drum onto one holder. Also the linen color and some wooden frame coloring was done.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Kj9e3tY29nhuXlij2N4LbNcgX9yywk21)


Some internal rigging was done too, but there are still unpainted details.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1wVKbEslgemwH1gV9n7sw4YMnqVuIihws)


The cartridge outlet of the inner Vickers was done by Eduard as own part. But it has to be painted early and mounted now. So it make it not easy to keep a metal painting during later paint work, the walls are looking thick and the pipe was not very deep. So I reworked the part from a brass profile.
I created a rectangle profile using the thick walls. Filed the sides from outside and on upper and lower wall from inside and tinned it at the end.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Uk3kbVjBSyDvfjSaTqYwwANf4uTbW224)


And mounted into the left half. Intentionally it sticks out a bit more compared to Eduard.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=13-T_3kcKPSb3xTSalDisxA_xqnJDEW5N)


Another detail of the kit is a sight, to be mounted below the upper wing. The kit part (top) looks good, but it is not a clear part, so no light goes trough. I own the Royal-Kit of the SE5a, there is a sight as clear part (below). Not every variant of the SE5a need it, so I use that part here.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1bhoRgu9AdusYcUMEKYxHkB5_MKWpYM5i)


The sprue connectors are on front and back, but could be polished easily. I mounted it to the Brisfit holder. After painting it black together with other small parts I can polish front and back again and hope for a bit of light.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1V-7wgPqrkxd3stNZBMY2UmO2lQ31sYgx)


Beside the pre-colored PE parts of the kit I used also from this HGW-Set (etched by Eduard) the black burnished frames ...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1KDiVTvHv9eJa1uTPqx2_F8cBRSPlMKno)


... to create instruments on a crosswise glued, sanded and painted piece of veneer. The glasses of Kristal Klear are not yet dry here.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1vEt0fbJbgmOUkew8YMhu74jnCICkR07H)


The color is according to the picture in Datafile:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1pA57rinqNhZv6qTm6p8DXQFFuO5ii2qu)


The layout more oriented on this one. The pilot can plug his pocketwatch into the hole.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1DyBI_Mbb0-2x0iC_ieKq7iVc49jt8Eoy)


After the near-to-success wood version I can remove the plastic one, panted the frames and mount it into the fuselage. After mounting further details and small parts the fuselage can be closed soon.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 16.7.2018 Instrument Panel
Post by: RAGIII on July 17, 2018, 06:17:22 AM
Brilliant Panel Frank!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 16.7.2018 Instrument Panel
Post by: coyotemagic on July 17, 2018, 06:58:28 AM
Brilliant Panel Frank!
RAGIII
As usual, I agree completely with my Amigo!  Brilliant!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 16.7.2018 Instrument Panel
Post by: GazzaS on July 17, 2018, 06:09:27 PM
Wow!  That IP is something else!

Gaz
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 16.7.2018 Instrument Panel
Post by: Bughunter on July 18, 2018, 04:17:37 AM
Thank you RAGIII, Bud and Gaz!
Does someone noticed the strange mounting directions of the instruments?
I thought about and may be the reason is to have all needles up in normal operation, so the pilot can verify the actual values with a quick view. Clever solution 8)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 16.7.2018 Instrument Panel
Post by: gbrivio on July 18, 2018, 04:36:09 PM
Brilliant updates, and your micro additions are great as usual.
About the instruments I can conferm that is still a common practice to install with the dials oriented to have all the needles pointing the same direction with normal parameters, exactly as you suspected.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.7.2018 Undercarriage
Post by: Bughunter on July 24, 2018, 05:57:57 AM
Thanks Giuseppe, here are again such micro additions (but still not on Ondras level).


Undercarriage


During dry fitting I noticed the the holes in the wheels are bigger as the axles. This is bad because it may cause a bad alignment of the wheels easily while mounting. So I decided to add some metal, but I broke the plastic part during modification. The rods were a bit on the thick side and not round due to flash anyway.
So a new complete metal solution, which do not need to be painted. Brass pipes 0,8mm and 1,2mm soldered into a holder.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1LkqCiIzYPjw-aBjQ5ihNg98C3cV9Kf9z)


Added a pin for the "RAF-Wire" mount. Needs to be filed a bit more filigree.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1tkkCSmcdUVBS44TI2UB4Zu7JBvtF_65w)


Tinned, holder mounted and axle are filled with wood. This detailed is visible on some pictures.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1BsoIKNDEef2QHj-_ZnRhZF5L1hGu0H2V)


Mounted with 0,6mm and 1mm brass rods.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1dsiBIiRDRfyc1Te44wwRxgDZsbTarrIt)


Painted black in comparison to the original Brisfit. Bushes are visible.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Pqd9LhimKbfQpDADwRuLVeqzMVr8TwFy)


On the left gear strut there is a little compressor, not for a airbrush but to set the fuel tank under pressure.
Since I'm in a scratch mode I turned, milled, drilled and filed brass parts. Very tiny ones! With a 0,33mm nickel-silver axle.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1VC83L9Qyn9rcYe2zrUOh0oVVHi_nSxlb)



And I tried to add a little wooden air screw, which is able to rotate freely and a "pressure tube" made from 0,2mm glowed copper wire.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=11syUd6YQ3RzlQRohgkY6SlV-tBpyHuCa)


That is the look of the undercarrige after painting the struts with PC10.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1c4OxbhdKYZAqz5OqG7yamVa1xRZEI3dX)


Cheers
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.7.2018 Undercarriage
Post by: RAGIII on July 24, 2018, 06:40:21 AM
Really awesome fix on the axle! You are an incredible modeler!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.7.2018 Undercarriage
Post by: Juan on July 24, 2018, 06:43:38 AM
Incredible building Frank, you leave me speechless...
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.7.2018 Undercarriage
Post by: lcarroll on July 24, 2018, 07:19:13 AM
Frank, that is just spectacular work! I completely endorse Rick's comment, you are an extraordinary Model Builder, an "Experten"!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
My sincere compliments!
Lance
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.7.2018 Undercarriage
Post by: GazzaS on July 24, 2018, 07:04:03 PM
That is really enviable work on those landing gear!

Gaz
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.7.2018 Undercarriage
Post by: gbrivio on July 24, 2018, 09:16:44 PM
Really awesome fix on the axle! You are an incredible modeler!
RAGIII

Ditto. I'm amazed.
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.7.2018 Undercarriage
Post by: Bughunter on July 25, 2018, 07:38:27 AM
Thank you Rick, Juan, Lance, Gaz and Giuseppe!
And Lance: with your translation to german you surprises me :-*

To do this metal work with those brass pipes is pure fun and relaxing time for me.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.7.2018 Undercarriage
Post by: lcarroll on July 25, 2018, 08:49:55 AM
       "And Lance: with your translation to german you surprises me"

Frank,
    My Mother's side of our Family were all German Canadians (her maiden name was Seibel) and I grew up for long periods living with them on farms on the Canadian Prairies. I'm told I was pretty good at speaking and understanding the language (as it was spoken in the Alsace) as a youngster, now sadly I only recall a few words. However, regardless of the language that's really nice work! :)
Cheers, (and auf wiedersehen!)
Lance
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.7.2018 Undercarriage
Post by: aliluke on July 25, 2018, 02:40:25 PM
Incredible detail - this is looking like it will become an amazing model.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.7.2018 Undercarriage
Post by: Bughunter on July 30, 2018, 04:43:53 AM
Sorry my friends, after some trouble - I take a deeep breath and put the kit aside for a little pause.
One day I will continue, for sure after that huge amount of effort until now.

In meantime I reactivated a build, which I started 2,5 years ago ::) Will show it here too of cource :-*

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.7.2018 Undercarriage
Post by: Borsos on July 30, 2018, 07:59:32 AM
What I've seen here (again) is second to none. Again your skills in micro soldiering and your eye for the smallest detail are truely amazing. Sometimes things need a break -- I cross my fingers for a quick return to that one and stay curious what comes next.
Best wishes
Andreas
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.7.2018 Undercarriage
Post by: RAGIII on July 30, 2018, 08:28:40 AM
What I've seen here (again) is second to none. Again your skills in micro soldiering and your eye for the smallest detail are truely amazing. Sometimes things need a break -- I cross my fingers for a quick return to that one and stay curious what comes next.
Best wishes
Andreas

I agree with Andreas completely.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.7.2018 Undercarriage
Post by: Bughunter on July 31, 2018, 03:46:29 AM
Sometimes things need a break
Wise words!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 2.1.2019 Decals
Post by: Bughunter on January 03, 2019, 05:44:37 AM
Decals


On the bench there are still some parts of the Fighter and talking to me.
So I continued with adding 0.3mm brass pins to all 4 ailerons:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1nVucZOeGC-c1684AgDTFAooIICQ5fH5I)


Same principle for all fins.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1m4Lbq9WdztQrgsy9ofw9yrRBcCrhw1rI)


Continued with masking of upper wing. It was only primed white until now.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1rDw9c5wyZ30Mur1Fbpf45SMD9fq6QXen)


Shadowed/darkened. ...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1N3OWP81y_qOCk4igyUONRFlBpA1-m_Dv)


... and painted linen color and decals to lower wing. This are the lower sides of both wings.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1QzuLurlq2Vgr7Fvz2OSVQRdF8REpymJ7)


Here are the upper sides, also with decals on upper wing. The cockades are with a white frame here.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1k22iOvLIjTOM5D1FXspne1Dc2bSfy-5R)


So 12 decals are done, because the red dots and the aileron segments are own parts.
The plan is, to try to finish Dolphin and the Fighter for the exhibition in Fürstenfeldbruck beginning of March.

Cheers
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 2.1.2019 Decals
Post by: Gisbod on January 03, 2019, 06:40:32 PM
Beautiful Frank!

I keep being tempted by this kit. Would you recommend it?

Guy
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 2.1.2019 Decals
Post by: Borsos on January 03, 2019, 10:27:19 PM
Hat’s off for the master of Chess!
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 2.1.2019 Decals
Post by: Bughunter on January 03, 2019, 10:48:44 PM
Thank you Guy and Andreas!

I keep being tempted by this kit. Would you recommend it?
The Bristol Fighter in general or this variant?

The Fighter kit by Eduard was released 2005, see the time line here, so it is one of the more modern kits. Also including some options, e.g. different tails:
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/1150669-eduard-8126-bristol-f-2b-fighter

This special Crocodile release is a lot of work, you got only a huge amount of mask squares, which needed to be positioned on the model one by one. No help for alignment or so. So you need to decide yourself ;)
The decals printed by Eduard are a bit brittle. I think their actual print quality is better.

A moment ago this model was near to the trash bin ...
A nearly full bottle Extra Thin, Quick Setting falling over on my bench, 1/3 is missing now. The flood was nearly touching the wings! I was able to save them, but it ruined my cutting mat and the smell is terrible ... I was shortly before a heart attack in that moment ...
Such things are really not needed! >:(

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 2.1.2019 Decals
Post by: Gisbod on January 04, 2019, 12:16:40 AM
Thanks Frank, that’s helpful.

Re your spillage... that’s just a standard mishap for me!

Guy
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 2.1.2019 Decals
Post by: Juan on January 04, 2019, 12:42:38 AM
Wow Frank, those wings are gorgeous.  Sorry about your mishap, glad your croc is still safe.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 2.1.2019 Decals
Post by: RAGIII on January 04, 2019, 01:42:17 PM
The wings are Superbly done Frank! As for the spill, it happens. I once spilled an entire TENAX 7X bottle and Melted all of the Parts of a 1/48th Hurricane to my Matt. Glad you had more fortunate results!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 2.1.2019 Decals
Post by: pepperman42 on January 06, 2019, 01:13:30 AM
Amazing work and dodging that glue bullet surely means it's meant to be finished!

Steve
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 6.1.2019 Brass and sqaures
Post by: Bughunter on January 06, 2019, 10:34:00 PM
Thank you Guy, Juan, Rick and Steve!

Melted all of the Parts of a 1/48th Hurricane to my Matt.
It could not only melt, it de-melts also a abrasive pad - into single layers.


Brass and squares


Let's continue with a long update ...

I started with some brass work. Even the kit prop can rotate, if the pin do not fall into fuselage :)
Brass construction for prop shaft, 1mm with a limit stop on front and back, in a 2.1mm bush with a thickening on the front.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=145UvLYaj0BLzLC9NYM_am6BYiHy1HCt_)


Can be plugged from the front into the kit part.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=108nx5gb6dLNeAGpp37ckNIQBrA3sCgYD)


Glued the radiator to the fuselage and dry fitting of blind and frame. The air screw fits tight to the 1mm shaft...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1QmAeyyvvl7RIA6XQW45aajs4CG9o3YiG)


... and can rotate very easily!
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1FURxCzuCVphyoM1hUK6PSHrkNSlikNCn)


After closing all openings putty, sanding, primed white with sanding twice. Painted white with MrPaint.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Cc_kuCHa5SEG0fMUGFYYv_8Zm9z1GtpK)


Since the Mr.Paint colors are fast drying (modeling acceleration!) I could start with masking soon.
The squares B for the sides are smaller compared to the C for wings and elevator. The A for top and bottom are smaller again - this time to small, because it do not create 3 rows. So it gives a difference to the manual and left a stripe on the sides. So I try to fix it with small rests from the tail of the fuselage, very very fiddly!!!. The amount of squares is very limited.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1XnDTY3U9qTOtR0GRIO_7TXl2AmjZ84QZ)


Anyway, I finished the masking somehow.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=174KcihgSnoI3fFIaWM2RtrTWUW5qrxwz)


Yesterday I wanted to brush the red, but no chance to open the roof window for the airbrush outlet (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9814.msg179475#msg179475) due to a snow storm. So To calm down I started again with a fine brass work. After the frame work for the Taurus project (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=8918.0) I ordered a lot of different fine brass channels in squares, rectangles (hollowed and filled), L, U,  ....
So I could use here a L-channel of 1x0.7mm and soldered 0.5mm brass pins into drilled holes.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1RYZkMJh2qQAxXQ54x9aP5l2twpuQnXR9)


This is the result compared to the kit part sized 0.9x0.8mm and needs to be cleaned carefully. The spacers on the pins are quezzed 1mm brass tube, 1mm long.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1rSCEDgrAkAwRflVnkK2miaE5UrUYHIBE)


This a bomb rack holders, different holes for different types. Will stay empty on model, as on the orig picture.
Do you see the holes? Those are for mounting of the different bomb types. I found a sketch in Windsock Special Vol.1
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1YmC4uKgSoJu_xVWspi9Abz7Ix68fPFbl)


Chemical blackened so it looks used.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1KiV02wmZiP3S_lCxU_Kr6Jjv6UNhXgo4)


Later the snow mishap stops and I painted Gunze red. The result after unmasking on fin:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Y-zko9LH93ZQMJE9eSZejYs1OFJwo3lK)


The tail plane in top view, below I will do linen later. A little accident during unmask - touched one square in the low middle ...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1_o17pWZ5ihRkTJAO9FNu7-mBk_wGNf8B)


Lower surface and left side ...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1hJ8vQyQKe-bBFX-2jp2DgwVoAHWZ8dyr)


... left side and upper surface.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1WC0BkljuzRXXOpKbYu_67HdryZg6z0hN)


Here and there a little problem but due to that huge amount of risk potential I must allow Murphy to strike back. I was a HUGE amount of work but according to circumstances I'm happy with the outcome.


Cheers
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 6.1.2019 Brass and squares
Post by: Borsos on January 07, 2019, 12:18:13 AM
Very nice! From your wooden prop to the brasswork: exceptionell!
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 6.1.2019 Brass and squares
Post by: jeroen_R90S on January 07, 2019, 07:05:11 AM
Really impressive -having wrestled 2 simple red bands and a white rear fuselage on my boxy D.VII fuselage, you have my utmost respect!
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 6.1.2019 Brass and squares
Post by: RAGIII on January 07, 2019, 10:29:24 AM
BRILLIANT Frank!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 6.1.2019 Brass and squares
Post by: lcarroll on January 07, 2019, 01:43:51 PM
Superb work on the checkerboard finishes Frank, great alignment and coverage, no errors, and neat and clean ........... well done!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 6.1.2019 Brass and squares
Post by: coyotemagic on January 07, 2019, 04:00:10 PM
Spectacular work all around, Frank! Another masterpiece in the making.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 6.1.2019 Brass and squares
Post by: Manni on January 07, 2019, 05:22:59 PM
Really outstanding results, Frank. I wasn't really online during the holydays and then suddenly you made this great model. This is art! You are a real master  modeler.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 6.1.2019 Brass and squares
Post by: Bughunter on January 08, 2019, 05:35:44 AM
Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment Andreas, Jeroen, Rick, Lance, Bud and Manni!

no errors, and neat and clean ...........
Lance, that's why I showed no macro, that you may think, this will be a nice model ;D

suddenly you made this great model. This is art!
Manni, not that suddenly ;) See your posting from March of last year on page 1. Nearly a year ago and still not finished ::)

BTW Manni, this year I will be again at the Wilnsdorf exhibition on 28.4.2019. We can try again to meet there. Please :-*

Cheers,
Frank

Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 6.1.2019 Brass and squares
Post by: PrzemoL on January 09, 2019, 07:01:55 PM
Very fine. Those squares do look great. It will be a striking scheme on a very cool model.
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 11.1.2019 Fuselage
Post by: Bughunter on January 12, 2019, 08:53:39 AM
Thank you!


Fuselage


The fuselade needs to be finished.
The radiator cap of the kit.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1ejXcws_IiMmmSdC3p1ACWjNcwAcjTku9)


I decided for some brass replacement, also for the filler caps. Lathed and milled with different diameters. The hexagonal was a easy task with my dividing attachment.
Some of my models are equippped with those brass filler caps, but on the Dolphin I noticed, it looks to bright and new. So this time I tried a short bath in chemical brown for the heads. I hope the difference is noticeable on the picture.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1LupXrxF1QL3eWsVfcqKAgJJ7PebVzRWO)


I added mounting plates to the filler caps.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1r8ZwyD4hpJMmduSuO3ESoiyeLJSbQw6g)


This was my template.
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/v3ED049C7/www/products/model_kitsets/32004/colour_photos/Fuselage%20Bristol%20F.2b%20Fighter%20D8084%20(14).jpg)
Quelle: wingnutwings.com


Again masking, this time the squares.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=19o4UMw7P_4ZZMEPXjab6bef-UUfRs9A1)


Primed with Alclad grey and sanded.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1rlut1wZ_Y8DQti51HGMONINsSoarVzSi)


The upper site, the radiator ring and underside painted with MRP-97 Dark Ghost Gray. Eduard says Gunze H338, but that was a bit bright in my eyes.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1lhgByEIZXd-9-A6QwQRct9fl3tmZWa6g)


The radiator ring plugged on and teh inside was masked. Here the kit do not offer a mask, so I cutted one by hand for the upper side.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1S5tHQqRHHW067MOCDuUPDIT7PTkcuJfH)


For the uderside I used Tamiya masking tape for curves. Great stuff for tasks like this!
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1JdeWRIpWyuUWEIsyExegMU50EI1F3Ph8)


The next task was painting of the crocodile head with Gunze H6:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=114nUYvmoQ23cEFMpU2zbUS3jGWXu-9so)


Underside view:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1UkSoSH9WRGBeny0Xz_s7LN6eCyFdOR68)

Now it needs to dry. The next step will be painting of the crocodile with oils.


Cheers
Frank
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 13.1.2019 Scarff ring
Post by: Bughunter on January 14, 2019, 09:19:49 AM
Scarff-Ring


The next thing is a mounting device developed by the gunner Scarff so called Scarff ring, which has a own entry at Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarff_ring

In set from Part (left in picture) there are PE, but wrong here because there is no double arc on original. I will explain it later. The Eduard PE from the kit is correct and provides a spare part!
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1mlbDuDrqWPxWdY1oTGvdnr38GkURoT_N)


The plastic C-frame of the kit is around 0.7mm thick, but with a bit flash. I broke ist during cleanup. So I made a new one from 0.6mm brass tube with turned brass "rolls" and a drilled hole for the new C-frame.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1LAqes2_m4nfdwG2aZqRqlkDaBEB8R172)


The toothed rack are formed and soldered. All parts together after a layer tin, seems to fit.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1QkQCOZ5JP66hqUO6dTm0yQh6JOEaWR8_)


Start mounting a - fixed on a strong masking tape to allow better handling. The rear mountings are from the kit C-frame. The toothed rack is mounted with bolts of 0.2mm nickel silver.
Finally I drilled 0.5mm holes and glued short pieces of nickel silver micro tube into the holders.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1U_qSw4kesU6E-LvO8mLnt9rKCFDRSsqA)


After black paint I mounted stretched sprue as rubber cord around the rolls. That was the highlight of this mounting - the counterbalance adjustment! The Part PE from the first pic seems to interpret the rubber as another arc, bit it has to be straight.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=13FcuKeKdDOHplfDiLrtxBpU5vUR07THd)


My Scarff ring compared to the original one.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1EayA9MM7xa9snmXzfCTI7ww05oxpmNI7)


It only needs to be plugged on on the finished model, because my crocodile do not carry a Lewis or a camera.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1pLkdJNgSiD9FGMrJvFhC7VREVABVMRFc)


What else?
After shading of the tail plane I painted some parts with linen color.
I decided to go with linen, as kit option linen or white/red squares, because the is no picture with a undersite view known.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1xmBMqL2EPDDTBqa0t95mYoJGb_cFdG4K)


The air screw tips are different colored, so I go with linen color as on this museums Bristol:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Bristol_F2_Fighter_REJS.jpg/1024px-Bristol_F2_Fighter_REJS.jpg)
Source: wikimedia.org


The air screw has now also a hub, bolted with 0.2mm nickel silver, a inner ring (not yet glued. Do you like it?) and decals.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=11KkLXEtwOno33eymsHBy-MC7aqNJrg7a)


Painting of the crocodile is done, blending with oils is in that scale not a easy task for me!
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1rTA0DZulittTP9I1XTlj6hXOy2dxoV6t)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1derf7MROzvctsrgHicDvo8K1QSbTNIyk)


That's all for this weekend!

Cheers
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 13.1.2019 Scarff ring
Post by: Manni on January 14, 2019, 05:15:15 PM
It is still unbeliveable for me how you do this tiny soldering stuff and perfect additions to this model. Hopefully I mange it to meet you at Wilnsdorf.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 13.1.2019 Scarff ring
Post by: PrzemoL on January 14, 2019, 07:57:48 PM
This thread continues to raise the level of my amazement... What a model in the making!
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 13.1.2019 Scarff ring
Post by: gbrivio on January 14, 2019, 08:49:37 PM
Amazing micro mechanical jobs making top details to your model. I love every bit of detailing in this build.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 13.1.2019 Scarff ring
Post by: RAGIII on January 15, 2019, 12:39:02 AM
I agree with all of the above comments!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 13.1.2019 Scarff ring
Post by: Borsos on January 15, 2019, 01:15:13 AM
Very nice! The scharf ring looks amazing.
One lonely hint: blending oils is much easier on dull surfaces than on glossy ones.
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 13.1.2019 Scarff ring
Post by: Bughunter on January 16, 2019, 09:24:58 AM
Thank you Manni, PrzemoL, Giuseppe, Rick and Andreas!

Hopefully I mange it to meet you at Wilnsdorf.
That would be great, really great! So I will try to take a big amount of my fleet with me.

One lonely hint: blending oils is much easier on dull surfaces than on glossy ones.
Thank you very much for this hint! This shows that I'm in many areas a bloody beginner and have to learn a lot.
Its already to late to change it, the oil paint is completely hardened, so the "Medium L" works as advertized.

Cheers,
Frank

Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 20.1.2019 Windshield
Post by: Bughunter on January 21, 2019, 12:47:05 AM
Windshield


Today only a small detail ...

Cleaned up the exhaust pipes, opened the outlet, added brass pins and four layers with airbrush, from left to right.
With the naked eye one can still notice teh steel.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1gba0JhG3HnC_vHWLKfeTvM4bX6xOfUAq)


A another detail I started to prepare the windshield.
Kit part left, replaced by Parts PE and wood.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1yt9l3ige-kZ9GGA1DwWhC9wMdKdjFbjM)


I noticed the wood on this picture:
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/vEF754EA7/www/products/model_kitsets/32004/colour_photos/Cockpit%20Bristol%20F.2b%20Fighter%20D8084%20(7).jpg)
Source: wingnutwings.com


The drawing for the parts PE is wrong, needs to be folded other way around to get a "bag" for the glass!
A little bit CA secures the glass.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1OBMK2oeDyIHM8gRRchpMT28amBkrkqw9)


I used the PE part as template, but it was to high so I sanded the arc a bit to get it more deeper.
And I need to clean the screen ...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=13PifswfXSWqYQaRNAG_0eyC_gkfvG9pm)


If someone own this kit, but don't need the decals - I'm interested.


Cheers
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 20.1.2019 Windshield
Post by: RAGIII on January 21, 2019, 12:55:42 AM
Once again you have spotted a fine detail and executed it to the highest standard!
RAGIII
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 3.2.2019 Brackets
Post by: Bughunter on February 04, 2019, 01:59:33 AM
Thank you for looking ain and commenting Rick!


Brackets


A small life sign ...

I was not able to remove the broken decals without destroying the painting.
Even with alcohol the decal resists partly, but not the paint.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=18jr2-FqGSvpB66NQvIDd_rbNzZZ38daU)


On the decal sheet I don't checked the text for the wheels, very hard to read on this light blue.
The decals were hard to put on, breaks often into parts. And here I also decided to remove them again, because not looking good ...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1ZV0qzqhNShcMUFEWjB2mlCdXgEOhXCBT)


and wrong too: the name was in capital letters:
(http://www.aviationancestry.co.uk/Humm/Sites/Main/Views/Database/Images/Palmer%20Tyre/Wheels%20And%20Tyres-Palmer%20Tyre-1917-10042.jpg)
Source: aviationancestry.co.uk


Also on the Bristol fighter:
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/vEF754EA7/www/products/model_kitsets/32004/archive_photos/Undercarriage%20detail%20Bristol%20F.2b%20Fighter%20C4611.Note%20Palmer%20Cord%20Aero%20Tyre%20markings.jpg)
Source: wingnutwings.com


To work off after this frustrating experience I continued with the remaining mounts for the RAF wires:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=18piGY4VS5yyKJ2abJpOEIyaSyb4AJ6ja)


So I was able to mount all 16 brackets for the wings.
You see here 188 individual metal parts, much more as number of parts in the kit! Additionally I put 16 micro tubes into the wing holes.
May be Bob can produce such buckles to make the life easier.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1HnlowrAL5RcfL5NIHcDLuWZFSLzmBnnF)


Looks not that bad compared to the original:
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/vEF754EA7/www/products/model_kitsets/32004/colour_photos/Wings%20Bristol%20F.2b%20Fighter%20D8084%20(21).jpg)
Source: wingnutwings.com

So sometime you go one step forward and fall 3 21 steps back!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 20.1.2019 Windshield
Post by: lcarroll on February 04, 2019, 03:08:29 AM
Frank,
    Those brackets are sheer artistry, just absolutely amazing and superb work. I am truly in awe of your ability to consistently turn out such unique and realistic accessories, particularly in the small scale you work in. Another winner about to emerge from your shop!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 20.1.2019 Windshield
Post by: Gisbod on February 04, 2019, 04:17:42 AM
Insane brackets Frank  :o exceptional

Guy
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 20.1.2019 Windshield
Post by: Bughunter on February 04, 2019, 07:27:58 AM
Thank you my friends!
The mounting plates are prepared on page 3, it was only a bigger task to do it 16 times ::)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 3.2.2019 RAF wire brackets
Post by: Manni on February 04, 2019, 07:26:38 PM
The decal problem is very sad. So much work lost.
But I look forward to the next steps.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 13.1.2019 Scarff ring
Post by: Bughunter on February 05, 2019, 05:17:09 AM
The decal problem is very sad. So much work lost.
Manni, thanks for your compassion! But I was able to recover:
The decals are removed, newly primed, airbrushed partly with gray.
Then masked again and airbrushed with green, some days drying time.

One lonely hint: blending oils is much easier on dull surfaces than on glossy ones.
Andreas, this was a big help!
After a thin layer with "Micro Flat" I started today with oils, the blending was easier.

I my eyes the new try looks better. The cam do not show that much yellow, I think in real there is more.

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1d7b-uQrxJ4Z-UYzjAWbx3gIozpPPKNiQ)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1kaggIhMSK03r3HAN5AmYy3HUXRgiAUHL)

If I should change it further, speak up now - the oils are still fresh ;)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.2.2019 Decals
Post by: Bughunter on February 08, 2019, 08:41:24 AM
Decals


At first I like to thank Giuseppe and Eduard for the offerings and help with the decals.
After the paint was dry I brushed a glossy layer and put the decals to the nose, this time to the correct position.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1ptQGmi3CMDvfa9JyWAHXhNtIeQXT1uis)


This time also the fish was a one piece affair. All the cutouts are done already.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1i_zvgUBlujnn6KyRX7uBOQxumeL64u0j)


With plugged exhaust - looks like a cigar.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1QFvKwoAbBPbzM5DitqNDfIf8ZjDDQn2k)


I like the moment, where all the prepared subassemlies starts to set up a plane! Here with the front radiatior.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1wroVpy13vjQYDqezQFojbFbtAqNDv4JI)


Now the final mounting starts.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.2.2019 Decals
Post by: RAGIII on February 08, 2019, 01:34:35 PM
OUTSTANDING!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.2.2019 Decals
Post by: Dave Brewer on February 08, 2019, 06:08:20 PM
Absolutely,I continue to be astonished by the quality of your work Frank,particularly considering the scale,this sure is one fascinating build.
Cheers,
Dave.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.2.2019 Decals
Post by: andonio64 on February 08, 2019, 09:29:44 PM
Beautiful result in the end!
Good to read you solved it!

Antonio
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.2.2019 Decals
Post by: gbrivio on February 08, 2019, 11:15:34 PM
Looking really beautiful, the propeller being an artist's touch.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.2.2019 Decals
Post by: Borsos on February 09, 2019, 09:00:58 AM
Fantastic recovery, I cannot wait to see that one at FFB!
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.2.2019 Decals
Post by: lone modeller on February 10, 2019, 05:12:08 AM
I have just caught up with this Frank. I am totally blown away by this model - not least those buckles!! The new shark mouth on the nose looks right to me - just a little rough around the edges as I think the original would have been. I seriously doubt whether many of these personalised markings were ever as perfect as represented on transfer sheets - they were applied in the fileld with whatever paint was to hand after all.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.2.2019 Decals
Post by: Bughunter on February 10, 2019, 06:57:36 AM
Thank you Rick, Dave, Antonio, Giuseppe, Andreas Stephen for your supporting words!

Fantastic recovery, I cannot wait to see that one at FFB!
Only 3 weeksends left :o and still a lot of work. Hopefully just in time.


I have just caught up with this Frank. I am totally blown away by this model - not least those buckles!!
I try to improve my technology with every model, but this is the limit now in that scale.
Really pitty, that I cannot buy such parts.

I seriously doubt whether many of these personalised markings were ever as perfect as represented on transfer sheets
Sure, but to paint markings like this by hand would be a lot of effort, and I'm not that good with hand painting.

The next update follows soon.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 9.2.2019 Trim
Post by: Bughunter on February 10, 2019, 07:01:40 AM
Trim


This update includes all: rigging, scratch-parts, paint, mounting ...

I start with the first rigging: the trim. Strange trim - not the elevator fin could be trimmed as usual today, but the "fix" part of the tail could be moved up and down at front. It has sophisticated ropes in the fuselage for that.
The kit has the four smallest kit plastic parts for that, you see one on the globe of the Cent.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1pCLSkAGajI-F1VIxh1eO_L0_1ggqiRas)


The fourth one decided to go away with a "fling" noise during mounting. So I made four new ones from a "Parts"-PE set, only the heads of control horns. Four Gaspatch turnbuckles are mounted too ....
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1q62i_Z6d48KFW7NBOnlPLxdGlWTcdRvg)


..to looks like the original. The turnbuckle was connected with 0.2mm nickel silver.
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/vEF754EA7/www/products/model_kitsets/32004/colour_photos/Tailplane%20Bristol%20F.2b%20Fighter%20D8084%20(7).jpg)
Quelle: wingnutwings.com


The Eduard manual incluses a drilling drawing and a plastic rod with two knobs at the ends. That can be improved with pictures in the Datafile. This is a emergency control from gunners cockpit, later painted black.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1R0FtITckLH7Hnx0pBH36hIdabtX59Vsx)


Scratched drain valve for the radiator.
0.4mm brass tube, 0.4mm nickel silver tube as axle, 0.8mm brass and a brass grip.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1hwGtYbxRD63k7PKLnWicwQz3tFUVJTCY)


A 0.6mm brass tube was added to the radiator and the valve was glued into. Do not start the engine without water and closed valve!
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1TJyoNmp65ltsbBvrujRVEJTJgEs1Jd8g)


The stitching was dry painted with grey. The brass caps are glued and the tail is mounted. Please note the light shadows.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1kGD-e24oQmhjoq7bxDPVF88B8UYxqGW7)


For underside I decided for linen, so also decals.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1iAb01bH4jFdJAMiPlg8JBWRjsD6ii4Ps)


Upper wing with alu maintenance lids, decals and shadows.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1-PP9o7pO-Lp-CIpjJHPfFkJPea3OWltP)


There is another formed decal with own number which is not mentioned in the manual. According to picturs it is for the middle part. Also detail painting with black fitting and steel colored bolts.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1_dNsG33vU70Aw69oaCsGk_AnmuE6eddc)


Also the upper side of the wings got some shadows. Dry fitting of the crocodile:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=13PhD2rheeO2mnQeLjmjucjw6BoAtPnOO)


Also detail painting of fittings.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1xakCbSYz10LTbgYKTIfG0w69Y0Ey8LTq)


Looks like huge progress but there is still a lot of work! I have to prepare the rigging on the fuselage. It is very tight there and at the moment I have no idea how to do that ...

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.2.2019 Decals
Post by: RAGIII on February 10, 2019, 09:17:40 AM
As always, stunning work This will be one Heck of a colorful aircraft when completed...as well as One heck of a Detailed Model!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.2.2019 Decals
Post by: Bughunter on February 11, 2019, 07:04:04 AM
Thanks Rick!
The next update will need soem time, I have to find a solution for the smaller rigging on top of the fuselage to the upper wing and on the tail.
And the working week steels some hours needed for modeling ::)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.2.2019 Decals
Post by: Manni on February 11, 2019, 04:58:23 PM
What a beauty! All these details and accuracy is not from this world. Again a masterpiece.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.2.2019 Decals
Post by: lcarroll on February 12, 2019, 12:14:07 AM
Wonderful detailing Frank, the quality of the tiny additions you produce consistently for your builds is truly amazing. Great work!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.2.2019 Decals
Post by: lone modeller on February 12, 2019, 03:51:06 AM
The extra details that you have added are beyond this world as Manni has commented. This is master-craftsmanship, not just modelling.

Stephen.
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 18.2.2019 Intercom
Post by: Bughunter on February 19, 2019, 08:16:32 AM
Thank you Manni, Lance and Stephen, your words are highly appreciated!


Intercom


Some propress from last weekend to be reported ...
After a little bit of black paint all 16 wing brackets glued in.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1C7SisICeqWXtQ3FlS5vkGLrBu3POyawe)


Struts pins fits into central tube.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1wlJfDWOAhph6Vo2bLAEgDa878s-YR4Pw)


Dry fit of the 8 struts - no glue needed :)
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1klmvlTD0V8aPOQdQ7RZbgIst8_DLtVH0)


During mounting the orientation have to be respected, on which side doubles?
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Cp96RJ35MGlaEWUYlL4cgfDm4aLGvkT-)


Again the wings, because it's nice: view from back.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1zwGC0Sk9JC8MzSazm6wIdjETkiB2VoK4)


Tried to add the fuselage to check the length of the struts: the upper wing needs to go more forward.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=178hBCgViSMVzeJ0w9nuJX-2HNb3dMaCY)


But ... the 16 mounts are not enough! I need some additional ones for the fuselage, even if the rigging drawing is a bit confusing and wrong here. Again doubles are needed on the lower fuselage, but how?
Some spares from the SE.5a build, used them for terminals on the fuselage. A broken off drill is a nice mounting handle.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Ta8urXInd7lKqdubhBrcCTOaVbBK7W1X)


A bit later: after 28 indidual parts are coming together there are 4 terminals for fuselage.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1mCF_EKhlHHxCkQ4UcMHvEuKxUO9OoHIB)


Added smaller tubing (0.4/0.6mm) for smaller inner rigging to upper wing, and 4 bigger ones for the wing landing wires.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1sh0axT7KbuU1NyCZJPjcOpSfmIKgVTFF)


And now the subject: communication in the cockpit. Today there is the Intercom.
But 100 years ago, in the noisy open cockpit?
Nice PE in kit: communication plate, I created a wooden mount.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1OYvxhz0tGo6dFboQdel5WR5kTYgmMW2B)


Please note my small plate on top of the Cent, compared to a picture of a half stripped aircraft of a museum.
So it is a support of symbolic language: allied/unknown/germans are clear. Does anyone have a idea about the right fields?(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1PLublty5rI3GkTKHG3Di6VQP6cubLKZ_)


Mounted on the wing, also the sight. Only the compass is missing.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1KCEfVSJaYZkOzSKamaN55rCzWURZKYHe)


The sight is another story, for next update.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 18.2.2019 Intercom
Post by: Ryan on February 19, 2019, 09:17:19 AM
Bug, this work is quite amazing especially considering the scale.

Ryan
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 18.2.2019 Intercom
Post by: RAGIII on February 19, 2019, 10:51:46 AM
Awesome work as always Frank!
RAGIII
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 19.2.2019 Aldis sight
Post by: Bughunter on February 20, 2019, 05:55:43 AM
Thank you Ryan and Rick!

Aldis sight


Again one step forward and three back ...

The last picture of the last update shows the mounted sight, a big fail :-\

The sight mount from the kit is to big, to thick. The height is more then 3mm, but the free space between wing and fuselage of the model downscaled original is only 4mm! So it is sitting much to low and nobody would be able to look through.

How it looks like on the real aircraft:
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/v3ED049C7/www/products/model_kitsets/32004/colour_photos/Cockpit%20Bristol%20F.2b%20Fighter%20D8084%20(7).jpg)
Source: wingnutwings.com

Removed the sight again. Made a new one from clear sprue and polished the ends.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Tjv73tcsyn2tvp5MmjIQa-4AA2YAcIqC)


With brass ends, after I found the following picture.
A very nice surprise during a picture search for references: I found a brass sight, built by Lance ;)
(http://storage.mfa.free.fr/gallery/Se5/aldis2.jpg)
Source: simhq.com


Painted in greyish black:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1CqeD0Ro1qRKK02moggbo5DbKAnqMw-eJ)


Light is going trough now :)
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1TuiHt9glEy9KjQ6CDiHl2bnpU-hsF3No)


Mounted below wing.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1JP6zQg6gTrR7F87SbpD6oIG1-4SovicR)


Compass parts of the kit. I drilled a whole and glued clear sprue in.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Yg-kcEkuxXtSBB88JyySnAG-UrqWry1u)


Mounted on upper wing:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1jVBpIv93dChYdvbcc1Snf4F-V57EumNR)


After massive rework of the wooden base I glued the windscreen into its place
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1P0qbtutXaa5H7MvoWsq68h956gOFPFJf)


Now it fits, Aldis sight much higher:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1UHODfWD1mQXr2Aff7g-QPF7MTV8-WqXZ)


For me it now close enough to the original:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1HzCwjawTV5avX2NwVgZNLGeN6eLlw8OZ)


The upper wing is now prepared for mounting, but the lower wing will be the first one.
Only two weekends remaining until the exhibition in Fürstenfeldbruck!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 19.2.2019 Aldis sight
Post by: Gisbod on February 20, 2019, 06:17:38 AM
Fabulous Frank,

You’ve put me off my 1/48 Brisfit now  ???

Guy
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 19.2.2019 Aldis sight
Post by: Borsos on February 20, 2019, 06:23:47 AM
Very nice, Frank. Incredible detail as usual from your bench. But you reminded me that there are only two weeks left... FFB is getting closer with huge steps...
Andreas
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 19.2.2019 Aldis sight
Post by: Ryan on February 20, 2019, 06:28:38 AM
Clear sprue,  very clever.

Ryan
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 19.2.2019 Aldis sight
Post by: RAGIII on February 20, 2019, 01:14:08 PM
Clear sprue,  very clever.

Ryan

Agreed! You can make something simple into a lesson that just seems incredible! The next time I need a sight I will certainly give this idea a try!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 19.2.2019 Aldis sight
Post by: andonio64 on February 20, 2019, 05:59:47 PM
I love the clear sprue idea, I will note it on my pad.
It's difficult I think, to find clear plastic that thin, also the sprue is normally much thicker.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 19.2.2019 Aldis sight
Post by: lone modeller on February 21, 2019, 04:53:12 AM
Absolutely wonderful Frank. BTW te simplest ideas are usually the best!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 19.2.2019 Aldis sight
Post by: Ryan on February 21, 2019, 05:53:32 AM
Andonio,

Frank can correct me, but could you not stretch clear sprue just like colored types?

Ryan
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 19.2.2019 Aldis sight
Post by: Bughunter on February 21, 2019, 07:25:05 AM
Thank you Guy, Andreas, Ryan, Rick, Andonio and Stephen!
It gave me perverse delight to surprise you with such an idea ;)

Ryan, I used streched clear sprue. It is typically stronger, not so easy to stretch, but it depends really on brands. I made a good experience with the newer kits by Eduard. I built a 1/4 scale instrument panel from a Eduard kit, and due to a lot of clear parts the sprue was bigger then usual.
Another solution is also possible: I put a piece of sprue into my lathe an turned it to a smaller diameter, but you will need very sharp cutting chisel for that.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 18.2.2019 Intercom
Post by: Bughunter on February 21, 2019, 08:37:00 AM
Since There is no answer yet, I repeat the question:
symbolic language: allied/unknown/germans are clear. Does anyone have a idea about the right fields?
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1PLublty5rI3GkTKHG3Di6VQP6cubLKZ_)

Thank you!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 19.2.2019 Aldis sight
Post by: PrzemoL on February 21, 2019, 11:28:50 PM
I am sorry to say, I do not know the answer to your question. But I would like to join the praising chorus. One of the best builds I have ever seen...
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 19.2.2019 Aldis sight
Post by: Juan on February 22, 2019, 12:02:06 AM
Conjecture on my part, but could be instructions to pilot (turn left, dive or turn right).  That way the gunner could have a better field of fire/evade attacker?  Just a guess on my part.  Love what you are doing by the way.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 19.2.2019 Aldis sight
Post by: andonio64 on February 22, 2019, 02:20:39 AM
Thanks Frank (and Ryan as well)... I did not imagine transparent sprue would keep its "transparency" once heated and stretched. Will make a try.
What was the use of that weird tool with the icons you are asking about those left side fields?
:-0
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 19.2.2019 Aldis sight
Post by: Bughunter on February 22, 2019, 08:51:56 AM
One of the best builds I have ever seen...
Wow, what a great homage, and from a very experienced modeler, THANK you very much!

could be instructions to pilot (turn left, dive or turn right).  That way the gunner could have a better field of fire/evade attacker? 
Thank you Juan! You have not seen the model together, but this is not possible, because only the pilot can reach the board on the upper wing. The gunner is to much aft.

What was the use of that weird tool with the icons you are asking about those left side fields?
Andonio, the left side are symbols for own aircrafts (cockade), a unknown aircraft ("?") and germans (with the cross). So the pilot can tip to the cross and then the direction to tell the gunner: "See, there is a german"

A friend come up with the idea, that the colors are related to arming (red to cock the guns for example or white to secure) or may be related to bomb release.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.2.2019 Struts and rigging[
Post by: Bughunter on February 24, 2019, 06:39:04 AM
Struts and rigging


Let's continue in direction of the final show ...

Rigging of tail added. This is easier without wings.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=14yylFg8nsAKUQe0IzyE8Ak43QVAPY7rT)


A very interesting picture shows the pressure pipes of the pitot:
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/v3ED049C7/www/products/model_kitsets/32004/colour_photos/Wings%20Bristol%20F.2b%20Fighter%20D8084%20(17).jpg)
Source: wingnutwings.com


Lower wing mounted and pipes for Pitot tube added. Please note the rubber connection between middle and outer wing. The "pipes" are 0.2mm lead wire.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1u_c7O8IehfLU8UHmqbln7MzlmOFlKNpK)


Upper wing mounted to the fuselage struts.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1t5W75rKCWYfVDI5GwJ49uL6pF8cAfzYo)


Main task in this project: masking.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1N24bHrW68ZGOvf2b1SY4p1GitTiDFSh5)


Outer winding painted in linen (Eduard says gray), 16 decals added. I added a drop of Clear Yellow and Clear Orange into the final clear coat.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1UZBARQNrlHhlRMP0OZgFMxIXauHkpgsF)


Struts added, inner at first, then outer. Works without trouble in 45min including cleaning the pins from paint and glue.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1E4v2MSa9F3eqjw7V12_HYk_2-ZHuYTXw)


Rigging added in less the 2 hours, the preparation pays back. Only the four inner doubles are missing, because the terminals are mounted together with the landing gear.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1mIvC1w8Fkbu-IvFlLCVcdgkOkMv3ZMGQ)


Rigging detail. There are also 6 "wires" on the inner fuselage struts.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1nb7jz5NRg9Sao0tyIffBobZyX0ws0xAJ)


I'm very happy now about the result!
The next thing will be landing gear and tail skid.


Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.2.2019 Struts and rigging
Post by: gbrivio on February 24, 2019, 03:35:05 PM
Every time I look at this I have no words on how is beautiful. You pushed realism beyond imagination.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.2.2019 Struts and rigging
Post by: andonio64 on February 24, 2019, 06:58:27 PM
WOW Frank, it's a pleasure following this build!

Antonio
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.2.2019 Struts and rigging
Post by: Pedja on February 25, 2019, 03:00:32 AM
As metioned before, one of the best build I ever see, simply great, and most important, construction images and whole topic, reveals many new techniques,so thank you for such great build ,once more.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.2.2019 Struts and rigging
Post by: Juan on February 25, 2019, 03:48:02 AM
With all the attention to detail you have done, I would be hard-pressed to believe that this kit isn't 1/32, a testament to your abilities.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.2.2019 Struts and rigging
Post by: lone modeller on February 25, 2019, 05:58:01 AM
I agree with Juan - only this could be 1/24 scale. Simply incredible what you have done - I would never have thought that such detail was possible.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.2.2019 Struts and rigging
Post by: Bughunter on February 25, 2019, 08:10:47 AM
Thank you Giuseppe,  Antonio, Pedja, Juan and Stephen!
With your overwhelming comments and my own feeling about the effort I spend here, I think this is may be the best modeldownscaled original I have created so far.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.2.2019 Struts and rigging
Post by: UFAG on February 25, 2019, 09:55:33 AM
This is looking sooo good..!
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.2.2019 Struts and rigging
Post by: RAGIII on February 25, 2019, 11:13:26 AM
Simply incredible all around. The rigging is the Icing on the Cake!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.2.2019 Struts and rigging
Post by: Manni on February 25, 2019, 06:41:28 PM
This is one of the best models I have ever seen. Your skills are really masterful. You must be an old monk, living on a mountain in Tibet.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.2.2019 Struts and rigging
Post by: Ryan on February 26, 2019, 02:54:27 AM
With all the attention to detail you have done, I would be hard-pressed to believe that this kit isn't 1/32, a testament to your abilities.

Most certainly agree with this statement.

Ryan
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 25.2.2019 Mishap and landing gear
Post by: Bughunter on February 26, 2019, 08:15:06 AM
Thank you very much, my friends!

With comments like this
This is one of the best models I have ever seen.
I really need a read face smiley! You made my day, thanks!


Mishap and landing gear


The next thing ...


... was a mishap!
During mounting of the second exhaust I had some trouble and the engine loosens and was fallen in. A rattling noise was the result! >:( :o

Was able to open the ring and radiator without damage:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=14HFJKqXlbV-hOcNUAPUWLx6vHhO9h9jX)


The engine.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1p3kDZQecLa0NuH4WYStWHQd3AE9fFYpA)


The last colored PE part from kit - a nice belt mounted to Scarff-ring.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1KhxL2Cb5tmZ4_AG124jEbWLVn13Q4qPh)


I painted the fuselage part of the ring also grey and mounted the Scarff-ring finally.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1ZMnkINqEKyv2IuzXjpcFw8kXCOuaCbVP)


The gear is mounted, cross rigged, compressor got a 0.2mm copper pipe to fuselage. The front double wires are done too. 
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1MgUMxs0Wul1iftUuGK9k-Gh2LoZxE_Bj)


The aft double terminal is mounted on the aft gear strut.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1mIv5119wsM9YhC92e9MOqmLObRcTyzIr)


Bomb racks mounted.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=10DHrvQnsrSUTSzdHShCvYUEv3lEhNYEW)


Protective bows are a bit thick in kit and I want to have it more robust for transport, so I made brass ones. Tinned, ...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1A8TYbSUNrefKMDXyV8IZoMQIIXzShj_b)


... painted and mounted.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Rmz6RM6YCK0h_hcvKTd58Xi4fzA-Cizz)


Exhaust and engine mounted.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=17O64f3vmpMKT-6bswjE1Us3K5AHlIGcC)


Added a piece of sprue between engine halfs to avoid such accident in future.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Qfh37eGI25IGSauSBuCsQ6S03_SAW1D7)


Need to do wheels, tailskid, ailerons, control wires ...
and the exhibition/competition comes closer in huge steps! ENORMOUS PRESSURE!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 25.2.2019 Mishap and landing gear
Post by: Borsos on February 26, 2019, 08:58:30 AM
Frank, a wonderful model from start to the (near) finish and great news that you managed to fix the little mishap regarding the engine. It will be a star in FFB, finished or unfinished, so there’s no need to rush or to feel pressure!
See you soon!
Andreas
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 25.2.2019 Mishap and landing gear
Post by: Gisbod on February 27, 2019, 02:21:46 AM
Making models = Mishaps

It’s a physical law  ???

Looks great though.

Guy
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 25.2.2019 Mishap and landing gear
Post by: lone modeller on February 27, 2019, 04:34:17 AM
Making models = Mishaps

It’s a physical law  ???

Looks great though.

Guy

Guy's law? Now I know why!!

Agreed that this one is a winner. Superb modelling.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 25.2.2019 Mishap and landing gear
Post by: lcarroll on February 27, 2019, 07:01:07 AM
Great recovery Frank, and it's a magnificent model ....................   every one of late becomes your "BEST"!!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 25.2.2019 Mishap and landing gear
Post by: Ryan on February 27, 2019, 07:14:59 AM
Frank 99% of modeling is knowing how to fix mistakes.

Your efforts are superb and it will work out.

Ryan
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 25.2.2019 Mishap and landing gear
Post by: Bughunter on February 27, 2019, 07:45:11 AM
Thank you Andreas, Guy, Stephen, Lance and Ryan fro your motivating words!

It will be a star in FFB, finished or unfinished, so there’s no need to rush or to feel pressure!
Ha, I don't think that the competition jury will like a unfinished model ;D But my plan was to put it there.
I still have the weekend, so it should be possible.

Don't be afraid, your 1/32 scale is a different class :-*
See you soon!


Frank 99% of modeling is knowing how to fix mistakes.
Not only that, a mistake or a broken part was often the starting point of something to scratch, which looks much better on the end.

The front is closed now ;)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 2.3.2019 Synchronisation gear
Post by: Bughunter on March 03, 2019, 09:47:59 AM
Synchronisation gear


For the Vickers in front of the cockpit there is a synchronisation needed to be able to fire through the arc of the air screw. So a gear is needed, and a gear needs cogwheels. A friend send me some, but the letter was lost, not arrived within two weeks >:(

So I went with plan B: 0,23mm nickel silver soldered on brass, turned on lathe and mounted on the dividing head. I had no special cutter for this task but found a workaround with another cutter. Every  10° milled.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1tnopKZJbMwJrmD0saUQVQ3FigTropLSo)


Here also the second cogwheel on a 0.6mm nickel silver axle after chemical brown.
No real cogwheels, but enough for optical illusion. Pitty, that the dividing head has bad concentricity!
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1p-dXm5m44ryVRq278twhSVBZihIDfECW)


My cogwheel compared to kit one. The one on the airscrew is nice, but the second one is part 5 ?! Not a cogwheel at all!
Below the kit gear which I had to remove for mounting the brass radiator.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1VGWjAJ1YxAoI5R5tXdk2YTxj8zbEETUS)


Milled the sync gear box from brass. the main part square, aft round, front hexagonal. Drilled hole for axle, drilled a 0.6mm hole and soldered brass pipe in for the pipes (glowed 0.2mm copper). Below a 0.8mm brass nut.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1u40eK_arTx-viRWLRYaWEQtrE0Kg5b7a)


Here you see the described parts as original. My small one is left of the original.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1HpOWTEqxu-xhmVNMBHOScpPotguKbKHb)


A problem comes up: the small cogwheel was to big, so I made a smaller one. Together with the gear.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1UL3wfHv2gbmRAOqRP-aKEuivr_Wd-yyB)


After mounting I put the pipes around the radiator and into the fuselage (drilled 0,23mm holes).
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1TUq9Eb1rx-fvAESU-zrTKLtW8fXQb_Vf)


Final view on the new sync gear.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Gae4GmrAiQTFMWS2QfOlEpPO1EdTMb76)


Tailskid from kit, painted with brush. The PC10 was painted in strips to simulate linen winding. A securing rope made from 0.1mm nickel silver around the rubber added.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1MNPyCkRWgCN97_vexLIPZK6hJnfFhcov)


Mounted with struts from kit. Seems to be able to hold the model, even if the single struts are very filigree.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1en5uf_1lJRJnnR3K6hh9gCiPs4PpWuQc)


A little progress, the control wires will be the next task.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 2.3.2019 Synchronisation gear
Post by: Juan on March 03, 2019, 01:51:31 PM
Just hen I thought you could not blow my mind any further, you find another way to amaze me.  Outstanding at any scale, but your work at this scale just blows me away.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 2.3.2019 Synchronisation gear
Post by: gbrivio on March 03, 2019, 05:06:51 PM
More and more beautiful details, congratulations on the new update as it's really stunning.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 2.3.2019 Synchronisation gear
Post by: RAGIII on March 03, 2019, 10:33:01 PM
And to think, I thought you were almost done with details  8) Another incredible array pf scratch built mini Masterpieces!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 2.3.2019 Synchronisation gear
Post by: Bughunter on March 04, 2019, 03:27:12 AM
Thank you Juan, Giuseppe and Rick!

And to think, I thought you were almost done with details  8)
And if you think, I'm done now - no. Still adding details the whole Sunday ;)
Since I forgot something, it is more complicate to do it on the finished model, so I should definitely take more notes.

Now it is mostly done, may be next update this evening 8)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 2.3.2019 Synchronisation gear
Post by: Monty on March 04, 2019, 06:42:05 AM
Wow, this is truly amazing work, Frank! Your skills are superb, and seem to increase all the time! It looks very, very good! Regards, Marc
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 3.3.2019 Control wires
Post by: Bughunter on March 04, 2019, 06:59:27 AM
Thank you Marc!


Control wires


At first the wheels, I showed my problem in a older update.
After removing the decals and a new painting I added the logo decal from a newer Eduard kit, even if the font could be bigger much better as before.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1eV4qWjq98O7NTweEJA6WcNbccWEK93PV)


Created clamps from 0.3mm copper wire, 0,2mm hole and 0.2mm brass micro rivet. Mounted to control horn, secured with CA.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Bq0rFJX1srqnEEm0o47BLuxyxCoDnwRF)


It works as pivot bearing, ompared to original solution. 12 clamps are needed.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1mnjuBPRiHkfgDdAAUPL1GiSb-XxxT0bR)


Elevator control mounted, the turnbuckles are Gaspatch.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1PqDMc7jy9Ycuur_q2XRYBo5RkPoK0fGz)


It is much easier to add the clamps to teh control horn prior mounting, but at the end I added the clamps also to the already glued elevator horns.  ::)
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1IJ7dXp2W_hPrjNFsKAo5QarWpwVNwaTN)


View on the crossed elevator wires.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1pDtycCcH1UEB-31APZRSfoe6XT1rEr2K)


Painted the inside of ailerons and the ailerons dark grey, there was only overspray.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1fpGdE0EhwD_1KOfX79NpVrRCvsEwu5yD)


Aileron control wires from slot in fuselage to lower wing.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1o_V3kjBqFsojFBC-SJHtTBhjsihXuX5s)


Rudder horn with clamps on upper aileron, the lower one looks similar.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1yKR2WRf7g65hVMcyWw4RaXXDyN2wRiza)


RAF wire from controlled lower aileron to upper one.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1mSUC9ZQm2EHDbGkmyDoTCDTXB-ePuAjM)


Rudder masked and painted, because the decal was to small. The blue is not dry enough for clear coat so this have to wait.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1yh6kUuo8TUeR8TdpMJvPAdR7ZVFbti4o)


Have not shown yet 6 wires on the inner struts.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1j95dMXxO-2Z__Vp9KXgH1SJL0EB9nPFp)


Two ropes from upper wing to engine, used Gaspatch turnbuckles here.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1RmBD9NwJyjHDq-W3uLq4DmaphF80l1a0)


I have more to show, but this is to much for one update.


Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 3.3.2019 Control wires
Post by: RAGIII on March 04, 2019, 09:34:09 AM
Frank, I may sound like a broken record but detailing really doesn't get any better than this! Simply AWESOME!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 3.3.2019 Control wires
Post by: gbrivio on March 04, 2019, 04:17:04 PM
These last details match the very high standard of overall build. Did you use micro tube sections to lock the wire joints?
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 4.3.2019 Control of shutter
Post by: Bughunter on March 05, 2019, 02:08:27 AM
Thank you Rick and Giuseppe!

Did you use micro tube sections to lock the wire joints?
Not for EZ-line, but for the normal (not RAF wires) Rig that thing lines I use 0.4mm brass tube.


Control of shutter


You have not yet seen all wires :)
Here comes another update to control the airflow through radiator.

A lever with two turnbuckles:
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/vEF754EA7/www/products/model_kitsets/32004/colour_photos/Fuselage%20Bristol%20F.2b%20Fighter%20D8084%20(7).JPG)
Source: wingnutwings.com


Soldered 3 nickel silver rods into a nickel silver PE frame, the axle 0.3mm and in the wood are 2 0.2mm pins.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1A7IWQOW1Ky00S4jI2RuSKoxlwKlW5jon)


After light chemical brown I added two Gaspatch turnbuckles, a second lever with axle and holes ...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1dgOkCKOx76avgvBSDMKO1hytVLcnTJa2)


...  are controling with crossed wires the shutter.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=13R22mQbAaP7lBMz6b-Nf3-2nsmMj8Svk)


similar to original:
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/vEF754EA7/www/products/model_kitsets/32004/colour_photos/Fuselage%20Bristol%20F.2b%20Fighter%20D8084%20(12).jpg)
Source: wingnutwings.com


Now the rudder control and weathering are to be done.
So this project will finish in time for exhibition/contest on coming weekend.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 4.3.2019 Control of shutter
Post by: gbrivio on March 05, 2019, 08:31:57 AM
That is maximum level of reproduction.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 4.3.2019 Control of shutter
Post by: RAGIII on March 05, 2019, 10:05:02 AM
That is maximum level of reproduction.
Ciao
Giuseppe

I can't say it any better  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 4.3.2019 Control of shutter
Post by: Gisbod on March 06, 2019, 08:40:50 PM
I wish I could hire you out to rig all my models Frank...

Guy
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 4.3.2019 Control of shutter
Post by: PrzemoL on March 06, 2019, 11:28:21 PM
Lovely work on more and more details. Top class modelling!
Still, I have a doubt. I remember when building my F.2B I could not find any photo from the era showing the shutter control mechanism depicted in the TVAL replica. Have you got any confirmation for this, seemingly pure-WNW concept?
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 4.3.2019 Control of shutter
Post by: Borsos on March 06, 2019, 11:31:33 PM
Frank, come on, this is boring. Do something funny like attaching the last part with Tesa tape („It’s OK so, I’ll leave that as it is...“) :D
I am curious to see that one in reality next weekend.
Andreas
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 4.3.2019 Control of shutter
Post by: Bughunter on March 07, 2019, 07:18:01 AM
Thank you Giuseppe, Rick, Guy, PrzemoL and Andreas!

I wish I could hire you out to rig all my models Frank...
That would be a full time job, but I would not be able to do that rigging the whole day. And beside that sanding wooden props?
Sorry, I have not enough time to build all the nice kits in my stash ...


Still, I have a doubt. I remember when building my F.2B I could not find any photo from the era showing the shutter control mechanism depicted in the TVAL replica. Have you got any confirmation for this, seemingly pure-WNW concept?
May be you are right, good point!

One confirmation is the technical point of view. There is no way inside to control it, because of the radiator. So even the thin pipes of the sync gear of the Vickers-MG running around the radiator and run into the fuselage just behind it. So it seems plausible.

And on the Windsock Datafile vol 2 there is on page 15 a picture showing the wires and lever very similar, even if the shutter itself is a different type.
Many pictures showing earlier F.2 wihtout a shutter at all, but if with shutter, I think it needs to be controllable.

I am curious to see that one in reality next weekend.
And I am curious to see you (and your face with seeing my (newer) models the first time) ;)

The rudder is in place and control wires added too - again a special story! I need to prepare update and pictures ...
So I will not add further parts, but I need to apply some light weathering with oils and pastells.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 4.3.2019 Control of shutter
Post by: lcarroll on March 07, 2019, 12:01:09 PM
Frank,
     For what it's worth I came to the same conclusions on my WNW version 5 years ago; and although I can't recall where I finally found the reference photos I believe it was in one of the Albatros Publications. I did the lines crossed as did you and the same "bracket" assembly:

(https://i.imgur.com/Xu5MJnu.jpg)

Great work on this beautiful model you've done here!!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 4.3.2019 Control of shutter
Post by: PrzemoL on March 07, 2019, 06:52:43 PM

Still, I have a doubt. I remember when building my F.2B I could not find any photo from the era showing the shutter control mechanism depicted in the TVAL replica. Have you got any confirmation for this, seemingly pure-WNW concept?
May be you are right, good point!

One confirmation is the technical point of view. There is no way inside to control it, because of the radiator. So even the thin pipes of the sync gear of the Vickers-MG running around the radiator and run into the fuselage just behind it. So it seems plausible.

And on the Windsock Datafile vol 2 there is on page 15 a picture showing the wires and lever very similar, even if the shutter itself is a different type.
Many pictures showing earlier F.2 wihtout a shutter at all, but if with shutter, I think it needs to be controllable.


It is definitely a good point!

Once again - great modelling!
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 4.3.2019 Control of shutter
Post by: ktrembacz on March 07, 2019, 10:08:38 PM
Perfect rigging!  :o
Title: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: Bughunter on March 08, 2019, 08:40:21 AM
Thanks you all for your thoughts and confirmation!


Rudder


As promised here are the last wires.

This aircraft uses double control wires as seen to the tail plane - a pair on each side. But there is only one rudder, so two wires needs to be connected to each side. But how?
After some experiments I formed short pieces of brass tube:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=12C27uD9Rlz83x_g13eiNQoqAwTg3Cgc7)


Then I created 4 additionals clamps as on last update. Mounted with a 0.3mm micro rivet.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1bkyHC2OXs7HXvXquwykg551B4r5ESxX7)


Complete with rudder:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1wjWlycTbegcCRbUGq5WuwwYaTPFqRMFE)


And finally on the model. Wires with 12 brass tubes and 4 Gaspatch turnbuckles. View from above:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1AzMU2fSzkHIrHs94trbaWkMl0O_PySGP)


View from side:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1u5RItcmd7nYLiLNmh_yEss07WIPPwzgl)


Two PE from the Parts set for the Pitot, connected with 0.2mm lead wire.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1UvdlYJs59J2gZ54GN0CLwFBm9_oIuvUB)


Added turned and milled engine start adapter to the middle of the hub.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1uXLH5BXa_6RrUW50G4u3s71IQ1MT3Fb7)


That was the last part! After a year this build report is finished.
That is the modell which had to withstand the strongest detail attacks of my model building career. If I would do it again that way with that huge effort? I don't know.
Many thanks for escorting me trough this build and your feedback!

Who is able to visit the exhibition "Modellbautage Fürstenfeldbruck" on coming weekend (like Borsos) can see this "Crocodile" in real there!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: GAJouette on March 08, 2019, 10:36:50 AM
 Frank,
Wow that's just so beautiful my friend. Your Master Level skills,craftsmanship and talent have served you well. Well Done and Congratulations.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: Terri on March 08, 2019, 01:04:33 PM
The devil is in the details , outstanding ! :)




Terri
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: Manni on March 08, 2019, 06:22:59 PM
Incredible work! So nice to see how you manage to dance along the fine line between genius and madness.
Chapeau!
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: andonio64 on March 08, 2019, 06:50:30 PM
WOW Frank, this is worth being exposed in a WW1 aviation museum.
Chapeau also from me!
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: Borsos on March 08, 2019, 08:14:57 PM
Fine, fine, fine!!
Andreas
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: PrzemoL on March 08, 2019, 08:31:51 PM
Gorgeous!
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: RAGIII on March 09, 2019, 12:01:45 AM
As always Frank I really enjoyed watching you bring this beauty together. Amazing craftsmanship!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: lcarroll on March 09, 2019, 03:13:20 AM
Outstanding Frank, a true work of the Modeller's art! It's been a real pleasure and a great learning experience following this Build.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: lone modeller on March 09, 2019, 09:19:10 AM
Simply lost for words. The amount of detail is breathtaking. If that does not win a prize I will eat my hat!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: Bughunter on March 10, 2019, 04:37:07 AM
WOW my friends, what a great feedback!

So nice to see how you manage to dance along the fine line between genius and madness.
Manni, how true! And that line is very fine ::)

If that does not win a prize I will eat my hat!
Stephen, you don't need to eat your hat ;D

At first I got a Bronze medal - for the SE.5a "Night Fighter" and ...
finally this damn Crocodile reached GOLD! And I got some very nice words from the jury afterwards.
So this model takes a huge effort, but it finally I'm totally happy with the result - the model itself and the result of the contest.

I hope I can create a entry in the completed section with the final pictures next week.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: lone modeller on March 10, 2019, 06:29:55 AM
Congratulations Frank on both awards. The Crocodile is certainly of Gold standard in every possible way.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: lcarroll on March 10, 2019, 10:29:11 AM
The Gold Award is much deserved Frank! Congratulations! (and for your "SE" as well!)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: Gisbod on March 10, 2019, 07:43:44 PM
Insanely good detail work Frank...

Guy
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: Borsos on March 11, 2019, 06:38:17 AM
The Gold Award is much deserved Frank! Congratulations! (and for your "SE" as well!)
Cheers,
Lance

So true. And the Bristol is even more beautiful in reality.
Andreas
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: gbrivio on March 11, 2019, 06:57:07 AM
I really enjoyed this build, great detail work and plenty of first class modelling tips. The completed model is one of the most beautiful I ever seen. Congratulations and many thanks for sharing.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: Bughunter on March 14, 2019, 05:26:42 AM
Thank you my friends for your congratulations, highly appreciated!

In meantime I was able to process the final pictures, so for completeness the final pictures in the completed section can be found here:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=10196.0

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: Europapete on March 15, 2019, 01:12:35 AM
Congratulations on a very well deserved Gold, Frank. This has got to be the best  bristol model out there in any scale. just superb. regards Pete in RI
Title: Re: Bristol F.2B Fighter, Eduard 1/48, Update 7.3.2019 Rudder **FINISH**
Post by: UFAG on March 15, 2019, 01:49:49 AM
Chapeau...!!