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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: eindecker on February 06, 2018, 03:40:23 AM
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I have long been interested in why we are so involved in scale modeling. Most of us have been involved in this hobby for decades. Some of us build in a particular scale, or subject, perhaps era, and some, like me, buy what moves us and that may range the entire gamut of scale modeling. I have a particular interest in WWI air models although I have recently finished a Merkava IV, have another Wingnut Wings Eindecker in progress and am deeply into the Tamiya 1:48 Tomcat.
Given that the new Wingnut Wings offering has generated responses that are generally grouped into positives and negatives, this has prompted me to ask for your reasons why you would or would not buy this kit. I am merely looking to gather information on why we model what we do that might shed some light on the basic reasons we call ourselves modelers and spend so much time, energy, resources and conversations about this hobby.
Thanks in advance to all who respond.
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I have bought more or less every Wingnut Kit within the last 4 years and build 18 of them until today including the Junkers J1.
But with this one I will make an exception.
It is to me the most ugly and none interesting plane they could choose :-[.
Maybe I am ready to move away from WW1 modelling anyway after 3 years of only Wingnut Wings models and look for something else.
Last week I started the build of a 1:24 Airfix Typhoon and it is real fun.
And not as ugly as the Junkers D.1 !
Peter
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Does nothing for me.
I don't know why, but I cant get excited about it.
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I've been back and forth in my mind trying to answer that very question. At one time I considered getting a Roden 1/48 Junkers D.1 but didn't as I eventually made the decision to stick to mainly 1/32 for WWI builds. The existing Junkers J.1 is one of the very few WNW kits that holds no interest for me but something about the little D.1 intrigues me. Perhaps it's the striking contrast between it and another WWI monoplane - my current WNW project, the Jeannin Stahltaube - which are separated by a mere 4 years.
Yes, it's ugly, but so are English Bulldogs and a lot of people own them. ;D
Therefore, my current answer is yes, I'll get a D.1, but will wait until I find a good deal like I recently did with the Sopwith Dolphin through Lots Of Models.
Cheers,
Eric
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For me, it's at the wrong end of the war, I much prefer the early 'planes. It has no romance about it, it isn't a famous aeroplane, it isn't a reliable old slogger like the BE2, it isn't a quirky failure and there are plenty of those
The thing that is interesting is how WNW have represented so much of the internal structure. The rib framing for instance
So, not an interesting aeroplane, might be an interesting kit to present, can't feel my hand going into my pocket
Richard
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I will quickly buy one as soon as available. To me it is an incredibly interesting aircraft, built of revolutionary materials and design and may have dictated a whole new direction of development if the war had lasted longer.
A different shape to sit beside my other Great War models with interesting colour options - and a very attractive machine in a steampunk kind of way.
I don't care if only forty were built, I'd have a Pfalz Dr.I too -and only 8 or 9 of them were operational. Funny nobody has slagged off the Jeannin Taube for only 40 examples.
I can see lots appearing on club tables - as red what-if Jasta Raben types, or crumbling hanger-wrecks, or as operational aircraft.
Brilliant choice WNW. Love It.
By the way I have no interest in the early stuff - Taubes, Bleriots, Alb B.II etc, but I don't slag them. Each to his own, happy that other's dreams are being realised too.
Sandy
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I've got pretty well every WNW kit and really like them. Unfortunately my modeling has decreased and my modeling mojo has plummeted. Then when I do build my hands don't work like they should any more. I am getting the D.Is in the hopes that they will be quick builds that will rekindle my interest and maybe bulk up my modeling confidence. I'm kind of wavering on giving up completely but I've been building since I was a young pup and its hard to just pack it in. Maybe if I can get one built it will lead to another and another etc.
James
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Most of my modelling time which is in total about more than 22 years I built wwi stuff. Even as a child I built every Airfix, Esci and Revell biplane I got my hands on and left every ww2 plane on the shop's shelf for them. When I started modelling again about 16 years ago in earnest I built almost exclusively wwi planes, tanks and dioramas first in 1:72 and 1/144, then in 1:48 and finally I switched to 1:32, WNW was mainly but not exclusively responsible for that.
I love modelling the history of WWI and am mainly interested in important aircraft -- "important" in the sense of the importance of a certain airplane for the air war of 1914/18. I am not so deep in building the machines of aces, but machines which were representative for a certain aera or battle. So a Fokker Eindecker and an early Nieuport are representative for the battle of Verdun 1916 for example. Given this and regarding the fact that so many important airplanes are not released in kitform yet (let's name Voisins, Farmans, Aviatiks, LVG C II, Halberstadts, Caudrons, and so on) I deeply regret that such an unimportant footnote of the airwar like the Junkers D. I is released as a high quality kit. It might be interesting from a technical point of view. But it's definitely not representative for what happened in the skies in the Great War.
I have every land based airplane released by WNW in my stash, some more than once. But I am neither interested in their Seaplanes nor in the Junkers D I.
The kit itself looks attractive for me and it is surely another hig end kit. Therefore I had rather seen a Voisin VIII or something else kitted in that way. I don't think I'll spend my money on the Junkers D. I. It's not even a real Great War plane in my opinion. Only that steampunk think sounds interesting for me...
Borsos
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I’ll buy one or perhaps two as it’s a very interesting aircraft & represents the end of German WWI development.
I can’t see how there’s a negative side to a WnW release of any aircraft (unless at some point they make a hash of one which is very unlikely).
Regards
Russell
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I would buy it If I did 1/32 scale. Junkers aircraft have their own unique appeal. I like the J1 and the Stuka, even some of the multimotor planes. I drive a modded Jeep TJ 4x4, so I guess I go for the utilitarian style. I always liked the Klingon ships better too.
I do have the Roden 1/72 D1 on the cabinet.
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My modelling is restricted to aircraft in 1/72 and 1/32 scale. Since 2006 I almost exclusively build WW1 related subjects. On the course I have also realised, many of great war aircraft can be built in Polish markings, and I am extremely happy to do so. Then, to this background comes the most important issue. My favourite part of these builds is attaching more than one wing with all the struts and rigging involved! Rigging is the cherry on this cake. I might make an exception for some special Polish subject without rigging. That is why the recently released Junkers D.I cannot fit into my interest range. However I welcome any new WNW release, even if so remote as this one. I passed through the instruction booklet and the photos of sprues with great interest. And I noticed that nice comment by WNW at the end of the assembly process directed to WW1 novices encouraging them to try something with rigging and more wings if they enjoyed building D.I. This is how I understand this release, too. An encouragement and a possible investment into new clients. So, even though I will not buy one unless I will have built all their rigged biplanes beforehand, I do not hesitate to say " well done WNW'!
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I'll buy one.
It's Wingnut Wings. It'll be an enjoyable build, it will be a comparatively easy build and I enjoy lesser known, quirky types more than anything. I prefer this to the WNW Camel, for instance.
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I’ll seriously consider buying one, once Lots of Models has a sale. I love ugly, stocky airplanes, as well as the advanced technology it had.
Peter
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Probably not (at the moment), but who knows. I'm a pretty fickle modeler. Przemo and Andreas have summed up my feelings on this one pretty well. To me, it looks like an early WWII aircraft and therefore, not really my cup o' tea, but who knows. Maybe when I've built all 300+ WWI kits in my stash, I'll have a go at it.
Cheers,
Bud
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I will buy it. Junkers was my favourite engineer/designer. Who created ground breaking machines. Maybe not the best organizer, but take a look at his wings shapes. Methinks a DR1, DVII owe something to when Fokker was trying to organize Junkers factory..
Also he stuck to his guns in the 30’s and it cost him his company and shortened his life.. got to admire that...
I have the D1 in 1/72 so 1/32 would be a fun build
Ray
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Yep, I'll be buying one, possibly two. I have a fascination with not only WWI but also it's immediate aftermath and the Junkers D.1 fits right in with it's use with the Saschenberg Geschwader. I too love the whole steampunk/dieselpunk esthetic of the design with its retro futuristic looks, you can see in this one aircraft all of what's to come yet it still has enough of the WWI elements (fixed undercarriage, wooden prop, open cockpit...etc) to make it look like some sort of strange hybrid.
The cynic in me can see why WNW has decided on the Junkers, they give their game away at the end of the instruction manual with the enticement to try one of their 'traditional' kits. It's obviously not aimed at the WWI fans, but the WWII end of town and to that end it might work given that a lot of the glowing reviews that I've seen over the years of WNW kits are from non WWI modellers and they usually are quite lavish in their praise, so this kit can be seen as sucking in those that still sit on the fence!
All that said, it still looks like a great kit to me anyway, I was going to get only one, to do the Saschenberg scheme, but the all bare metal option really looks nice as well, it kind of reminds me of the end of the movie version of the Blue Max (I know ::), it was a Morane parasol, but it still looked kind of swanky in all silver with maltese crosses ;D) Some of the other MFG schemes also look interesting as well.
I can understand why this release isn't to everyone's taste, it definitely isn't a traditional WWI aircraft. But, as I've said elsewhere on the forum, if I'd been asked to guess what aircraft they would release at Nuremburg the Junkers wouldn't have even been on my list! What I'm taking away from this is that WNW next release could be anything from WWI and not necessarily mainstream at all, they don't seem to be afraid to step into the realm of the esoteric and I think that's a good thing.
Dave Rickard
Rockhampton QLD
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I've been a hard WWI subject fan for a long time and tend to choose my subjects around the men who flew them. Occasionally a particular scheme or aircraft will catch my eye but mostly I stay to the "aircraft of the Aces", particularly the obvious preference for Canadian Aces as does Prze with his Polish subjects. The D.1 did not initially appeal to me; too rare, not the classic "stringbag" and very limited service. When I noticed the Freikorps scheme it started to look a lot better, and as I said elsewhere here, when you have Jacobs, Sachsenberg, and Osterkamp's name associated with an aircraft that's a lot of talent and history!
So, bottom line, I'll probably get one and do it up as the Freikorps version. ::)
Cheers,
Lance
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I will get one. It may be the simple, straight forward build I need to kick start my modelling again.
Steve
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I will buy one.
I was fascinated with the kit when I build the 1/48 Roden version, but this is so much beter designed and engineerd.
Warning to those who are in the catagory maybe/will buy later:
I have have seen now 3 differant websites claiming this to be the ideal WW1 entry kit so it might go really fast and you know WnW doesn't do reissues...
Hidde
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I will get one. I find the aircraft fascinating. To me, it looks like something banged together in someone’s barn out of whatever was around. If there was a Junkers CL.I to go along with it I’d get one too.
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I will not buy the D.1 for two reasons: the subject doesn't interest me, and I don't have the money anyway!
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I will buy at least one. The plane is a real stunner for me. I am one of those guys wich are not so interested in a planes history. I prefer the design and I love strange planes. It will give me a lot of possibilitys to make it interesting, like a nice polished aluminum plane with lots of Alclad and other polishing things. But mostly I will do one with the wings off, leaning against a wall. The plane with lots of dulls and scratches and a mechanic standing next to it. Great : Can't wait.
Bye,
Manni
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I won't buy because in my opinion it lacks the aesthetic appeal and elegance that brings me to WWI subjects in the first place.
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Yep, I'll be buying one. I'll wait till a UK stockist has them and look for the best price.
To me its another WW1 milestone aircraft and I do prefer the later WW1 planes to the early ones. Just hope Pheon looks at releasing a decal sheet as those in the kit are not grabbing me!
P
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Probably not and for the immidiate future for sure NO. I have too many kits to last me for years and I have decided to buy new ones only if I am starting them the day I receive them! ANy kit is manufactured to be built and creating a stash is something I don't like.
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No for a couple reasons; I'm trying to stay with chipping away at my 1/48 stash and 'been there - done that' with the Roden built. I can see the marketing behind issuing a simple monoplane with no rigging to attract those contemplating a WNW kit.
I can't see it being sold in multiples to builders like their Albatros DV or Fokker DVII.
Too bad they didn't tackle the two-seater version at least it hadn't been kitted before.
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I have already stated in another thread that this one is Currently on my No Buy List. I build "MOSTLY" Squadron collections and this one does not fit in any of my Parameters. I do Love All WW1 aircraft but to put things in perspective and my very limited budget I developed the Squadron History thing years ago. I do stray occasionally because an aircraft just calls out to me. The Special Hobby Fokker DII is an Example of this type. I don't think there is any danger of this one selling out quickly so perhaps way down the road.
RAGIII
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I'll get it as I have one of every type they've have produced plus the other manufacturers 1:32 scale WW1 aircraft.
Yes i'ts a strange decision for an end of war, low production aircraft, but it deserves a place on my shelf anyway.
Hannant's in the UK have it on pre-order for £69.99.
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it's low on my WNW FOMO list, but i'm in. it may be my first WNW build, if i can spare $$ from hoarding WNW kits before they sell out. I have been getting more interested in the conflicts between the wars lately, and i'd like to build the Sachsenberg one.
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I don't think I will buy one for me to spend 60/70 pounds on a kit it has be something I really want to build and as I mainly build in 48th and haven't got one in that scale I think I will leave it.i hope it does well and I can see why wnw have kitted it and I am sure there will be some great models built when it hits the shops.
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I am historian, so many of my decisions to buy a kit are driven by the fact that there’s a story behind it. Then I am addicted to beauty, so the look of a plane is another strong reason for me to buy or not to buy. Concerning the Junkers D.I, I’ll probably buy it some fine day. First, because my family‘s history is closely connected with the „post-war“-wars, especially in the Baltic. Second, I am interested in that brutal and important, because world-shaping period of history up to around 1923. Third, I find the Junkers D.I is not ugly at all! Fourth, I love Wingnut Wings kits! - I recently bought the Jeannin Stahltaube (by the way, on the day, Des has passed, so there‘ll be thoughts for him every time I look at that kit!), mostly for the reason that I read Gunther Plüschow‘s war memoires „Der Flieger von Tsing-Tau“, when I was a boy of seven. It is since then that I have a soft spot for the (to me: steam-punk like!) shape of the Taube-planes. So, that‘s me.
Richard
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I'll probaly buy two.
Two because I'll want to include one in bits in a dio – and I'll also want one for display with wings and bits in place.
This one has actually been on my wanted list for quite a while now – as was the Dolphin, the Taube and the Ships Camel – so in my book WnW has been very forthcoming lately ;) Why the D1? Well, the design intrigue me and looks oddly cool. And, after building +40 double deckers with plenty of rigging, I'm up for a bit of a change of pace.
/Mikael :)
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It looks very unique, and a lot can be done with the paint schemes. It's on my shopping list for sure.
Regards,
Gary
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Stare at it long enough it might grow on you. LOL
I've tried posting a pic of my 1/72 Roden but my phone won't cooperate.
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Yes I will be having one of these beauties, possibly two. Why? I have had the Roden 1/48 D1 geared up for building for some time but had a project to complete first and strangely enough as I completed my project WNW have been so kind as to release this, so it will save my eyes straining in the smaller scale and I can have a little rest from rigging :D
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I was disappointed with this release, as it is not much of a classic WWI design, and I like classic WWI designed aircraft.
However, it is an interesting aircraft in its own right and I rather like it.
I will buy it and enjoy building it at some point, but there is no rush for this one.
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I'll prolly get two. Cool airplane, and will look good next to my J1.
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I like the subject, but I knew I had a Roden 1/48 kit in the stash--a good kit in a smaller scale. Then I actually looked in the stash, and found that it was the Blue Max D.1.
So now I'm thinking of it.
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I would buy one and see if any other incarnations are done, then buy them too. ;D
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First I was a hard no on this one. Now maybe, just because it will be a quick build and historically important. But it sure doesn’t make any prettier.
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I won't because what drives my modeling choices is 1, having seen an actual example flying, 2, being powered by a rotary engine, and 3, having more than 1 set of wings. an aircraft doesn't need to meet all 3 to end up in my stash, but the more criteria met the more likely. for example: Morane Saulnier AI and Fokker D.VIII have only 1 wing, but I've seen them fly and they have rotaries. Fokker D.VII and Sopwith Dolphin are both stationary engines, but I've seen them both fly and they are multi-wings. never seen a Snipe, Tripehound, or Strutter fly in person, but they have rotaries and multi wings. I don't believe there are any airworthy D.1's out there, especially anywhere near where I live, it's only a 1-winger, and it's not the most visually appealing beast out there. I'd spring for a J.1 before a D.1, and that only meets 1 criteria.
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Of course I'll get one, maybe two.
Although ugly this bird, but quite historically interesting.
Color scheme 4 and, of course, scheme 5 of the WNW Box.
Explicit color scheme 5, heavily used, with a few dents and bumps in the corrugated metal skin -
friends, that's a feast and a challenge for every modeller! ;)
Servus
Bertl
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Of course I'll get one, maybe two.
Although ugly this bird, but quite historically interesting.
Color scheme 4 and, of course, scheme 5 of the WNW Box.
Explicit color scheme 5, heavily used, with a few dents and bumps in the corrugated metal skin -
friends, that's a feast and a challenge for every modeller! ;)
Servus
Bertl
Bertl! That‘s great to have you back here again! I also like options 4 and 5 most.
Richard
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Team it up with a Mikro Mir Fokker DVIII on a snow covered airfield somewhere on the Baltic Coast in 1919. Beautiful!
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Will get one, but mine will be a counterfactual Finnish (AML decals) D. I on skis (Roden Spad VII), though a Swiss or Swedish version might be equally appealing. . .
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For me, it's at the wrong end of the war, I much prefer the early 'planes. It has no romance about it, it isn't a famous aeroplane, it isn't a reliable old slogger like the BE2, it isn't a quirky failure and there are plenty of those
The thing that is interesting is how WNW have represented so much of the internal structure. The rib framing for instance
So, not an interesting aeroplane, might be an interesting kit to present, can't feel my hand going into my pocket
Richard
Agree 100% Richard. It's an ugly aircraft and I too don't care too much for late war aircraft. I would rather have early war aircraft or a Friedrichshafen G.III.
James Sontag
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Okay, so some of you/us aren't interested in this aeroplane while some are.
Me, I will never buy the Taube as it holds no appeal - but I am happy for those whose boats are floated by the extremely early stuff.
I can't believe my luck after getting a Dolphin that PJ has also kitted my next wishlist choice, the radical Junkers monoplane. I thought myself lucky to get a Blue Max one, back in my 1/48 days, last millennium - and I ask that the non-believers are as happy for me with the forthcoming WNW release, as I will be for them if they get a Friederichshaven or whatever, (which will never occupy space on my shelves).
Live and let live, chaps.
S
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Okay, so some of you/us aren't interested in this aeroplane while some are.
Me, I will never buy the Taube as it holds no appeal - but I am happy for those whose boats are floated by the extremely early stuff.
I can't believe my luck after getting a Dolphin that PJ has also kitted my next wishlist choice, the radical Junkers monoplane. I thought myself lucky to get a Blue Max one, back in my 1/48 days, last millennium - and I ask that the non-believers are as happy for me with the forthcoming WNW release, as I will be for them if they get a Friederichshaven or whatever, (which will never occupy space on my shelves).
Live and let live, chaps.
S
Well said, my friend. We all have different tastes, and I'm happy for everyone who wanted a Dolphin or Junkers D.1 and to top it off for them, Wingnut Wings did them. Couldn't get better than that. Myself, the Taube will be cool and I want one. It would be a boring world if we all liked or disliked the same thing/things.
James Sontag
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No, everyone MUST like what IIIII like so IIII get EVERYTHING IIII want.....me me me....me me.....
...the oldest 21st century teenager.....
Steve ;)
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You can't please everyone. Over on another forum people have been demanding a 1/350 scale Klingon K'Tinga from Star Trek. One is getting released and it looks great. Now people are griping its too big and are now moaning for a 1/1000 scale version.
The internet is fun sometimes.
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Personally, I'm grateful for any WWI subject produced by any company in any scale. We all remember when these kits were as rare as hens' teeth. Now we're spoiled. I used to build 1/48 scale exclusively, but now I've built 3 WNW kits and am working on a 4th. Still no 1/72 scale, but who knows. I've also never built armor before, but I'm close to finishing the CSM Lanchester. I want to support their endeavor. If sales are good, there will be more. So, yeah. Not crazy about this release, but I'm warming to the idea of buying one.
Cheers,
Bud
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The Taube and Junkers really anchor the war’s beginning and end. I have a Taube. I will be getting a Junkers.
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I made a Roden 1/48th Junkers and liked its clunky appearance. The Wingnuts Junkers is a must-have and would make a perfect candidate for some speculative 'what if?" post WW1 steampunk scenarios too. Well done Wingnuts!
cheers
Dave W
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It's a cool aircraft and (imho) from a technical standpoint an important one, but were I to buy a WNW model it would be a Dolphin :)
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Yes, definitively. Already pre-ordered it. Not my favorite but interesting and without the ringing will be a quicker build.
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It's an interesting plane for many reasons... But it ain't very pretty. Got it's best service record flying for the Freikorps. I firmly put it behind everything else I must have, but before all of those things I don't want.
Gaz
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D.I is not my priority so far, there are two or three other models on the wish list’s top, but finally and it will be its turn. Why? It is, after all, an important project from the period of WW1. Whether it has an elegant shape and one, two or three pairs of wings - these are not important criteria. One, not more and not immediately after release.
Unless my wife will not have another idea for a birthday gift. I don’t have much influence on it anymore.
8)
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It's neither here or there,better in a small scale.I have the 1/72 vac form and it doe's it justice.
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I'll get one for a couple reasons. First, I like obscure aircraft. I've sort of had my fill of Camels, DrI's, Albatri, etc. A Junkers DI represents something a little different. Second, I'm a relative newbie at WWI models, and the DI with it's minimal rigging is something I might be able to actually complete.