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Title: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on January 22, 2018, 04:03:18 AM
      My next Build will be of Flight Commander WM "Mel" Alexander's Clerget Camel B6289 of 10 Naval Sqn. RNAS in 1918, Scheme D in the Wingnut Wings Kit. William Melville Alexander was a 23 victory Canadian Ace who flew Sopwith Triplanes in Collishaw's famous Black Flight (his aircraft was "Black Prince") and then Camels including both 10 Naval and 210 Sqn. RAF when the RNAS was folded into the RAF in 1918. He survived the war and passed away at the ripe old age of 91 in 1988.
     Here's the standard "opener", the Kit, and a photo of Alexander following.(Photo on-line from National Archives of Canada)

(https://i.imgur.com/wtjfUF0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/g2AM8rz.jpg)

   This is the color scheme as illustrated in the Instruction Booklet:

(https://i.imgur.com/CcqgBol.jpg)

   I'll be using these references for the project:

(https://i.imgur.com/CL2l23m.jpg)

    After Market additions will consist of these excellent products: Taurus Prop Hubs and Back Plate, HGW seat belts, and the newly available Barracuda casting wicker seat and cushion.

(https://i.imgur.com/0jaKoAX.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2j0x3HC.jpg)

   This will be my second Wingnut Wings Camel having recently completed the LeRhone version. This Build is intended to provide a simple "break" from my long AEG G.IV Build however I suspect that my usual penchant for over complicating things and self induced difficulties will turn it into anything but "simple"! :o
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: RAGIII on January 22, 2018, 04:13:32 AM
Nice choice Lance! I am also glad to see we won't be doing the same scheme on our Camels  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lone modeller on January 22, 2018, 04:25:06 AM
Good to see you tackle another Camel Lance. The scheme looks interesting and if it turns out nearly as good as the AEG it may not be simple but it will still be a first class model.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Juan on January 22, 2018, 05:13:55 AM
Looking forward to seeing your treatment on this one, a good break from your AEG.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on January 22, 2018, 06:02:17 AM
Nice choice Lance! I am also glad to see we won't be doing the same scheme on our Camels  8)
RAGIII

    Not this one anyway Rick, but I still have three more in my Stash! Thanks for your comments as well Stephen and Juan. I'm looking forward to this Build.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: coyotemagic on January 22, 2018, 08:51:35 AM
Excellent choice, Lance!  Really looking forward to following your progress.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on January 22, 2018, 10:13:29 AM
Thanks Bud! My choices tend to follow the "Canadian Connection" approach when it's a reasonably attractive option. Unless Rowan comes up with something irresistible on his next Camel sheets I plan on adding Barkers and Roy Browns to this one and the MacLaren one already done, four Canadian Camel Aces with a combined total of 136 victories.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: mgunns on January 22, 2018, 10:18:49 AM
I can tell that this is going to be a "Barn Burner of a Card" Lance:  I am looking forward to this build as I join you with the Ships Camel, I will be following along. 
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: coyotemagic on January 22, 2018, 10:37:16 AM
Thanks Bud! My choices tend to follow the "Canadian Connection" approach when it's a reasonably attractive option. Unless Rowan comes up with something irresistible on his next Camel sheets I plan on adding Barkers and Roy Browns to this one and the MacLaren one already done, four Canadian Camel Aces with a combined total of 136 victories.
Cheers,
Lance
Lance, if you haven't yet, do yourself a favor and read "Winged Victory" by Victor Yeates of 46 Sqdn.  His "fictionalized" depiction of "Mac" is spot on.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on January 22, 2018, 10:49:13 AM
Thanks for the recommendation Bud. I've got a room full of WWI Aviation books however that classic has so far evaded me. I'll do a quick search tonight.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Doug Mace on January 22, 2018, 02:22:54 PM
Oh, you'll love it...in all ways.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Manni on January 22, 2018, 04:18:04 PM
Wow, I think you got all condiments together to cook a great meal!
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 10, 2018, 07:07:44 AM
   It's time to start up the Build Log on this one as I'm getting close to buttoning up the fuselage. I've completed several of the sub components and they'll be ready for installation when I reach that stage.
   All of the very small control horns and cabane strut rigging attachment points were drilled out and cleaned with a #83 drill bit. The plan here was to use EZ Line for rigging to eliminate any stress on the tiny rings which proved successful later.

(https://i.imgur.com/Uha8hKo.jpg)

    The "rings" on the interplane struts were cut away and scratch made small nicad wire ones were drilled in to replace them. I elected this method after several broke on my previous Camel Build causing no end of frustration trying to replace them with the wings installed.

(https://i.imgur.com/5IUA9Jj.jpg)

    I then cleaned up the wings, tailplane components and control surfaces "pinning" the latter with stainless steel wire. (Guitar string) The rigging for the upper wing cut out is stretched sprue.

(https://i.imgur.com/HdYxKuh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Sb1EzHQ.jpg)

    Next came the cockpit floor section which I removed the molded on seat cushion from and replaced the seat support frame members with Evergreen styrene strips and installed the fuel tank.

(https://i.imgur.com/XcP75Pr.jpg)

    With that done the assembly was "woodgrained", the Barracuda Seat and HGW Belts added and all painting completed.

(https://i.imgur.com/6sDqh2h.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vANmWDl.jpg)

    Next came the fuselage interior sides in CDL, Wood, and metal from back to front and the fuselage side frames, the later with a few missed fuel lines added and EZ Line cross braces. The previously finished Instrument Panel was also attached to the left side frame. I took the black option for the panel Instrument Board for this one.

(https://i.imgur.com/2Mg6vi4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jywl0b3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ue3VgZe.jpg)

   The instrument had Aeroclub bezels added and the "Glass" is the usual Future floor polish.

(https://i.imgur.com/MMHxs6Z.jpg)

   At this point the Clerget Engine was completed using Alclad II paints and AK Interactive "Engine Wash" and "Aircraft Engine Oil".

(https://i.imgur.com/K6Uw2Pz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yMYMCkI.jpg)

    ........ and last, the prop. It still needs it's decals and a sealing coat of clear semi-gloss to tone it down.

(https://i.imgur.com/Be9b0qO.jpg)

    So far, so good, I've only broken one cabane thus far, that's two less then on my previous Camel! I hope to get this to the closed fuselage stage in the next few days and then plan to switch back to my AEG Build.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: bobs_buckles on February 10, 2018, 08:09:37 AM
Holy Smoke, Lance! That's some fine work and speedy at that  :o
Excellent update!

vB

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: rhwinter on February 10, 2018, 08:19:05 AM
Oh, yes, gorgeous!!
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 10, 2018, 08:30:53 AM
Bob, Richard,
    Thank you both for your generous comments.  I've already thanked "Wonderdog" for his contribution of the fluff and several hairs to the left inside fuselage frame shot, he's very close to being banned from my cave at this rate! >:( >:(
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: RAGIII on February 10, 2018, 09:51:55 AM
Outstanding as always Lance. From interior to seat and belts and finally the engine, all superbly detailed!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 10, 2018, 12:54:51 PM
Thanks Rick, as always your comments are very much appreciated!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: mgunns on February 10, 2018, 02:34:25 PM
Looking good Lance as you progress on this build.  I will be following closely as you continue your work on this and see how you do the stripes on the forward area of the model.  Drilling out the holes in the controls is a fun challenge.   :o
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 11, 2018, 02:33:09 AM
   Thanks for your comments Mark. Those control horns and the "eyes" on the struts are as fine a detail as I've encountered on any Kit and demand some pretty keen attention and a gentle approach to work on. Since I want a "structural" rigging I've replaced the strut cross brace terminals on the interplanes with metal ones, also a very touchy job! Lots of modelling excitement occurring here these last several days to borrow your expression! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: pepperman42 on February 11, 2018, 04:51:05 AM
Great work Lance!! Puts a smile back on my face after the last few days.

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Juan on February 11, 2018, 05:28:36 AM
Fantastic looking bird Lance.  Turning out incredibly nice.   :D
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: gedmundson on February 11, 2018, 06:35:06 AM
As usual - your work looks incredible. Looking forward to your next update (as I try and catch up!)
Regards,
Gary
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 11, 2018, 12:05:19 PM
Thank you all for the much appreciated comments. I've got it ready to sew up now, just a few control cables to sort out and the cockpit module is done.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: dr 1 ace on February 13, 2018, 11:55:16 AM
Looking good, await next set of pics !

Ed
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 13, 2018, 02:15:25 PM
Thanks Ed, next set of photos shortly! :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: boggie on February 13, 2018, 03:37:44 PM
Thanks Ed, next set of photos shortly! :)
Cheers,
Lance

Not that I want to sound like an overly avid viewer of your talent but,  about time too!

My pop corns gettin stale and the beers gettin warm.  ;)

Oh, BTW, very nice progress.  :)



Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Borsos on February 13, 2018, 09:35:16 PM
Lance I didn't even realize that you are on another Camel yet! Very nice progress -- of course -- but not so much weathering as on your last one, right?
Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 14, 2018, 01:08:47 AM
Boggie and Andreas,
    I've got 2 Builds presently underway, the AEG per the Canadian Aviation and Space Museum restoration and this Camel. I intend to alternate between the two for now and have just got the Camel ready to close up which is where the AEG was left off, I'll do a tiny bit more on this one and then switch back to the AEG. Andreas, this Camel will be no where near the degree of weathering on the MacLaren Le Rhone version earlier. This one has many photos to study and is, overall, quite well kept and clean in the photos. I'll post some photos before I roll this one to the back of the Hangar and return to the AEG, and thanks much for looking and for your comments!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lone modeller on February 15, 2018, 04:40:21 AM
Wow Lance - I have missed this one. That has come a long way in a short time, but the quality has not suffered one bit. Those tiny rings for the rigging look as though they were real fun to fit....... Excellent job there.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 15, 2018, 06:32:05 AM
Thanks Stephen. The rings were easy, the tiny drilled holes to put them in were a bit of a chore alright! :o
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 17, 2018, 04:45:54 AM
     The cockpit is complete and the fuselage is now closed up. At this point I think I'll push her to the back of the line and switch back to my AEG project.
     Before closing the fuselage all of the flight control cables were added using Modelkasten elastic line.

(https://i.imgur.com/fUCuKKI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sFXk91B.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/v0BAL1X.jpg)

    The Vickers Gun Support frame was then added and then the cockpit module installed in the left fuselage part.

(https://i.imgur.com/jk3wUaK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qB6LjB8.jpg)

    Once happy with that assembly I added the right fuselage half. It proved a tight fit as I had installed the fuselage frame cross brace wires on the outside of the side frame members. The top fuselage seam was done first, once dry the bottom was done as well. Medium CA and a bit of Thin CA was used throughout. A very small seam gap on the bottom was filled with medium CA and then sanded down flush.

(https://i.imgur.com/YLjWJ41.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wymP1cP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Cnvtm3N.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3mGcNiJ.jpg)

    Having reached this benchmark I will return to the AEG, complete the engines and frames, and then hopefully be back on this one in about two weeks. "In the beginning there was a plan............."
Cheers,
Lance

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: RAGIII on February 17, 2018, 11:20:29 AM
WOW Lance, your Cockpit looks gorgeous! I am tempted to toy with one of my Camels but am still waiting for Pheons Decals.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 17, 2018, 11:31:07 AM
Thanks Rick. I hear you, this is my second Camel and I hesitated, I just know Rowan will come out with a scheme I just can't resist........ this one has black stripes but I would have preferred Alexanders "Bus" when he commanded B Flight with the royal blue stripes.Wanna bet it's on the sheet?! :o ???
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Juan on February 17, 2018, 12:30:03 PM
Outstanding work so far Lance, she is turning out to be a real head turner.  Big fan    ;D
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: pepperman42 on February 17, 2018, 01:20:29 PM
Looks great Lance. Dont put it on hold too long!!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 17, 2018, 01:24:13 PM
Thank you Juan, your comments as always much appreciated. And thanks as well Steve, it'll only be on hold as long as it takes me to figure out the detail on 2 Mercedes D.IV's!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Softscience on February 17, 2018, 01:29:28 PM
I really like how this looks. I'm especially impressed with the seat. Your choice of paint for the wicker work, really makes it look like dried reeds. Very classy.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: mgunns on February 17, 2018, 02:25:06 PM
It's looking mighty fine Lance.  I agree, you have nicely captrued the look of wicker on the seat.  The seat belts are pretty cool as well, a good place to stop and put it away for a bit.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Borsos on February 17, 2018, 06:13:06 PM
Great progress on your Camel, Lance! I also love the wicker seat and the seat belts and I am keen on seeing you back on your AEG!
Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: boggie on February 17, 2018, 08:01:26 PM
Very nice Lance!

Cockpit is very sharp. You have a different effect to usual on the lap belts? Looks good, certainly adds further interesting detail.

Thoroughly enjoying following your progress on Camel 2.

A shall now alternate to the AEG channel.  :)

cheers
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 17, 2018, 11:39:31 PM
Thanks All for your comments. :)
The "wicker" color is done with Model Master Enamel "Afrika Braun" #2102 (I don't know if they still make it?) as a base and a wash of their Raw Sienna. Boggie, the belt "stippled" look resulted from the "rolling the part between two fingers" as directed in the HGW Instructions; I over did it and the paint finish wore off to produce that effect!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: boggie on February 18, 2018, 12:20:22 AM
Hahaha. ;D.  The effect was an accident?  ::)

Looks like scuffed leather to me. I like it!  8)

I would be happy if my "accidents" turned out half as neat!

:)

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 18, 2018, 12:28:08 AM
   It was indeed an accidental discovery. In real life up close the effect is much more graphic and I think I'll tone it down with a wash of light brown or tan. I've never had this happen with these belts before and usually use a diluted coat of brown or tan and buff to give them a more used look.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Bughunter on February 19, 2018, 08:03:12 AM
Oh, I missed this fantastic build...
Holy Smoke, Lance!
Exactly! You are doing a great job on this Camel (as on all your models).

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 19, 2018, 08:37:00 AM
Frank,
    Thanks for looking and for your nice comments. This being the second Camel it's going quite smoothly so far.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Trackpad on February 20, 2018, 12:20:03 PM
Lance,

Good job right the way through. All looks in place and finished very well indeed. Good luck with the Camel and the AEG!  8)
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 20, 2018, 12:36:24 PM
Thanks Gary, I'm still trying to "ease" back into the AEG, I'm realizing this two Builds at once routine may be too much for this old fella! :o
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Trackpad on February 20, 2018, 10:12:31 PM
Thanks Gary, I'm still trying to "ease" back into the AEG, I'm realizing this two Builds at once routine may be too much for this old fella! :o
Cheers,
Lance


A change is s good as a rest, my friend. Take me, for instance: Albi, CAX, Albi, CAX, CAX, CAX, Albi, Albi...and so on. Three back-to-back CAXs right now (we're on the second one) and the whole string runs to next Sunday. Sometimes I feel like I just ain't retired no more!

Best of luck with the AEG, buddy!   8)
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: dr 1 ace on February 21, 2018, 06:09:02 AM
Looking real good ! and the AEG also !!

Ed
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on February 21, 2018, 06:16:45 AM
Thanks Gary, it is quite a change in subjects alright!
...... and Thank You Ed for looking and for your very much appreciated comment!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on June 13, 2018, 12:28:53 AM
Well, the AEG is a memory and a "shelf magnet" with the exception of some photos for the Completed Models Section in the next few days so I'll re-open this Build Log. The bench has been cleaned up and this Kit is spread out and ready to go again, looking forward to getting back to it!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: RAGIII on June 13, 2018, 12:36:15 AM
Well, the AEG is a memory and a "shelf magnet" with the exception of some photos for the Completed Models Section in the next few days so I'll re-open this Build Log. The bench has been cleaned up and this Kit is spread out and ready to go again, looking forward to getting back to it!
Cheers,
Lance

I am looking forward to the continuation of this build Lance!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 04, 2018, 07:09:48 AM
    I'd better update this Log before this Build goes further, it's been slow but steady progress since I cleared up the AEG project and got this one back on the bench. The first area I completed was the wings starting with a very dark grey pre-shade. Once the PC.10 was applied I used multiple (4 or 5) hand brushed coats of Future to provide a nice gloss base for the decals. Although I anticipated problems with the decals noted in other Build Logs these proved flawless and are now sealed with another coat of future. Most of these highly gloss parts will be toned down with a final sealing coat of semi gloss or Matte when completed.

(https://i.imgur.com/4JHUHCp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9b9VxOM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6Y6HQsn.jpg)

    I've also completed the plywood "turtle deck" with an oil streaked wood grain finish using Winsor Newton Oil's Raw Umber over a Tamiya wood Base.

(https://i.imgur.com/0cCyAP5.jpg)

    That too has received several coats of Future and the decals on the tank hatches have been applied and sealed.

(https://i.imgur.com/lUc8Qa2.jpg)

     The fabric portion of the fuselage has been painted with a slightly lighter shade of PC.10, the mid section with a base coat of the wood base, and the forward metal panels given a coat of dark aluminum. Both of the forgoing will be overcoated with AK Chipping Medium and then receive a coat of black Tamiya followed by a light chipping treatment. All of the photos I've seen of this aircraft show it was kept in a well finished and fairly "clean" condition.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZCpxAvn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8lWzvYU.jpg)

    The underside of the fuselage was also pre-shaded and has been painted in CDL and sealed however I missed taking photos of it, I'll include a few later.

    Next in the sequence come the fuselage decals before the forward fuselage panels are completed, then it's time to put it all together.
Cheers
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: GazzaS on July 04, 2018, 07:22:55 AM
VEry nice work, Lance.  I like the brass details on the turtleback.

Gaz
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Juan on July 04, 2018, 07:35:09 AM
Wow Lance, your Camel is looking great.  Looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Trackpad on July 04, 2018, 08:08:03 AM
Very nice work there, Blue Leader! I'll have to take notes, especially when you get to weathering the rib-tapes, for when I ever get finished with my Albi. Well Done!  8)
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 04, 2018, 11:45:58 AM
   Thanks for your very nice comments gents! It's certainly starting to come together alright. :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: aliluke on July 04, 2018, 04:15:15 PM
Like others I missed this log too. Looks fantastic - warming to this model subject the more I see it.

Thanks,
Alistair
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Dave W on July 04, 2018, 04:57:26 PM
This looks amazing lance. I just wish my own Camel project was half as good as yours.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 05, 2018, 01:10:45 AM
Thank you both, Alistair and Dave, I much value your encouragement. Presently I'm fretting a bit over the addition of the turtle deck and forward top cowling with the Vickers guns; I'm a little out of sequence with the Plans Booklet as I've tried to keep the smaller pieces until the end and getting that small forward cowling (Part A40 of the Kit) over the guns and in place properly with the larger turtle deck component is going to be a bit of a "lip biter"!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Gisbod on July 05, 2018, 02:23:05 AM
Lovely woodwork Lance!

Guy
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 05, 2018, 03:32:45 AM
Thank you Guy, it's my first adventure into the darker type of wood finish and I'm pleased with the result.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lone modeller on July 05, 2018, 03:50:34 AM
Beautiful paintwork Lance, especially the wood work. Another medal winner in the making here.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: gbrivio on July 05, 2018, 07:18:25 AM
Great build, I like the inside work as well as the exterior details. The little extras make the model shine.
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 05, 2018, 08:39:31 AM
Stephen, Giuseppe,
   many thanks for taking the time to look and to comment. I hope to provide another update very soon.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: RAGIII on July 06, 2018, 12:28:00 AM
Beautifully painted Lance! Your decal work gives me hope that perhaps when I get to my Camel all will be well with the roundels!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 06, 2018, 02:41:59 AM
Thanks Rick. The decals seem to be hit and miss; out of character for me I've had no problems with this, my second Camel ...... both Decal Sets have been up to the high standards normal for Wingnut Wings.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 06, 2018, 06:36:39 AM
    I've made a bit more progress on this project, some smaller details completed and the fuselage is decalled, sealed, and ready for the black portions to be sprayed.
The plans indicate that the aileron pulley inspection panels on each of the four outer wing sections were painted over, the center upper wing section aileron balance cable inspection door was left clear. Here's the upper:

(https://i.imgur.com/iS7gAP8.jpg)

Then the lower......

(https://i.imgur.com/H6pGk2K.jpg)

and the upper wing center section:

(https://i.imgur.com/ykjvFBf.jpg)

     The fuselage fabric sections were given 5 coats of Future to provide a good gloss base for the decals and after a 24 hour period for drying the markings were applied. These decals performed like the wing ones, exceptionally well.

(https://i.imgur.com/CwZaxAa.jpg)

    In between coats of Future I also completed the pair of Vickers. I've used the Kit Guns with the muzzles drilled to receive 0.5 mm brass tube barrels.

(https://i.imgur.com/sbjpPkH.jpg)

     The wood and metal fuselage panels at the forward end have been given an application of AK Interactive chipping compound and will be over sprayed with black acrylic later today. The assembly stage is really getting close.........
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: GazzaS on July 06, 2018, 04:08:27 PM
Smooth finish looks great!  Did you apply the Future by bristle brush or airbrush?

Gaz
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: RAGIII on July 06, 2018, 07:21:18 PM
Continuing to be your usual outstanding work Lance!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Borsos on July 06, 2018, 10:07:08 PM
It's looking great, especially the inspection panels are wonderful!
Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 06, 2018, 11:58:56 PM
Thanks for the nice comments Guys.
Gaz, I use a flat, soft, hand brush for Future. It always looks a little "patchy' until about coat number 3, then it levels to a high gloss and mirror like finish. A word of caution though, you have to resist the urge to go back over it during application as it will cure very quickly and show brush marks  therefore needing extra coats to smooth out.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: coyotemagic on July 07, 2018, 01:17:22 AM
Brilliant work all 'round, Lance!  Love the brass work and inspection panels.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Juan on July 07, 2018, 01:58:49 AM
Love what you have done Lance, looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 07, 2018, 03:03:59 AM
Bud, Juan,
    Much appreciated! Real life chores halted progress yesterday and the black panels are still waiting for their paint. I'll post another update and some photos once that's completed.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lone modeller on July 07, 2018, 03:30:06 AM
My you move quickly Lance. Are you a high speed modeller by any chance?

Excellent finish and super details.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: GazzaS on July 07, 2018, 08:39:39 AM
Thanks for reply Lance.  Generally I spray my coats of Future and then sand smooth with very fine papers.  However, with the textures involved in WWI aircraft the use of abrasives is much more restricted.

Gaz
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 07, 2018, 10:05:42 AM
Stephen,
     I'm actually a very slow Builder; I had this one well underway when I used it as a diversion from the marathon project the AEG presented thus it looks like it's much faster in progress then it really is. I often get lured down a "bunny path" doing more searching and reading as I go along, with predictable long interruptions!
Gaz,
    Do you thin the Future for spraying or go full strength?
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Bughunter on July 08, 2018, 07:34:58 AM
Lance, this is again such a great build!
This really shows the great quality of the WNW kits and what is possible in the hands of an experienced modeler.
I got a bottle Future from a friend and he recommends to this it with Tamiya X-20A, works great for me.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 08, 2018, 11:43:18 AM
Thanks for your comments Frank. I never would have thought of X-20A, but I'm going to try an experiment with it, thanks for sharing the idea!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 18, 2018, 04:16:59 AM
   So much for a fast Builder............... not!! I finally found time for a few sessions on this one, the markings are all on, the top decking installed, and the guns and Aldis Sight are also on the model. The landing gear strut assembly is done except for the rigging and it is shown "posed" in these photos. I've kept wear, chipping, and oil etc to a minimum however once the different less glossy overcoats are done I may do a bit more, particularly more engine oil along the underside.

(https://i.imgur.com/Dce3oV6.jpg)

   The engine oil is from AK Interactive, their oil based one.

(https://i.imgur.com/dk18S7l.jpg)

    I added a bit of chipping to the side panels and ring cowling using the AK "Worn Effects" Acrylic product.

(https://i.imgur.com/PTUe80G.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OVhzwbG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oyBqZol.jpg)

    The eyelets are all installed for the rigging so the next step is to install the struts and upper wing. Once that's rigged the landing gear and bracing will follow.No news to anyone familiar with the Wingnut Wings Products but the tolerances on this one are really tight; a coat of paint on joining surfaces causes all sorts of problems!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Juan on July 18, 2018, 04:21:10 AM
Maybe you're not fast, but it was worth the wait.  Great job Lance.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: coyotemagic on July 18, 2018, 04:25:49 AM
What a beauty she's turning out to be, Lance!  Love it!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 18, 2018, 05:13:54 AM
Juan, Bud,
    Thanks for looking and commenting, very much appreciated!  Yes, she is "growing" on me, the added colour with the nose striping really becomes the normally drab Camel schemes. I'd have preferred one of the blue or red striped jobs however as usual I can't resist the scheme of yet another of my boyhood heroes!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: RAGIII on July 18, 2018, 08:31:27 PM
Your painting is absolutely gorgeous Lance. The Camel is on my short list for the next build and yours could push me over the edge!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 18, 2018, 10:18:13 PM
Your painting is absolutely gorgeous Lance. The Camel is on my short list for the next build and yours could push me over the edge!
RAGIII

Thanks for your nice comment Rick. This is my second WNW Camel and I'm very impressed with the kit, without the effects of paint where it shouldn't be it's an incredibly well fitted Kit, and I have several more I will do in future.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Dave W on July 18, 2018, 10:34:42 PM
Outstanding work Lance! I'm working on a Wingnuts Clerget Camel but it's nowhere near the calibre of your build. It's amazing how much detail Wingnuts packed into the cockpit of this model, and how much of it vanishes when the fuselage is joined and the top wing put on!

I'm really enjoying your build.

cheers

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 19, 2018, 05:08:07 AM
Dave,
    Thank you Sir ........ and I suspect your Camel is a lot better then you have indicated! You are right, the cockpit detail on the Kit is quite fantastic, a shame that it basically disappears once the assembly is completed. As we all often say though, at least we know it's there!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lone modeller on July 19, 2018, 07:49:35 AM
Just catching up (again) Lance. Very impressive indeed - superb detail and you have not finished yet! I am really looking forward to seeing this one completed.

In response to losing all of that detail: why not do what I am attempting - a cut-away version?

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 19, 2018, 01:33:40 PM
Stephen,
   Thanks for the compliment. Interesting idea, and one which I've only briefly considered in the past. A "cut-away" would be a real challenge, and something completely different, I'm definitely going to give it more thought!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Borsos on July 23, 2018, 03:10:27 AM
I remember me building the Revell Naval Camel with the red stripes seveal times when I was a child. I really love that striped sheme, it looks simply amazing from your bench.
Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 23, 2018, 11:03:43 AM
Andreas,
    Thanks very much for the comment. I have had a minor set back having mounted the top wing. All was fitting very well until I broke two inter plane strut lower connector extensions on the very thin struts which, until then, I thought would not require pinning. They are in place now but I may have to "pin" them, which will be a real challenge with the upper wing in place! The joys of modelling! :-\
Cheers,
Lance
   
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: gbrivio on July 23, 2018, 03:35:54 PM
Sad to know about struts damage, your camel is becoming a real beauty. Painting is great.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 23, 2018, 11:46:34 PM
Thanks Giuseppe, It's holding presently and I'm tempted to rig it to hold it all in place. I hope to get a better assessment of it later today......
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Borsos on July 23, 2018, 11:53:42 PM
Andreas,
    Thanks very much for the comment. I have had a minor set back having mounted the top wing. All was fitting very well until I broke two inter plane strut lower connector extensions on the very thin struts which, until then, I thought would not require pinning. They are in place now but I may have to "pin" them, which will be a real challenge with the upper wing in place! The joys of modelling! :-\
Cheers,
Lance
   

Sorry to hear of this mishap. I cross my fingers for a problemfree fix!
Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: RAGIII on July 24, 2018, 03:54:01 AM
Sorry to hear of the broken strut locators Lance. As good as they are WNW struts can still be delicate as I found on a couple of builds in the last 10 years. I am sure your fix will hold things together. The rigging should add some structural integrity!
RAAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 24, 2018, 04:04:47 AM
Andeas, Rick,
    Thanks for that, I hope you are right as I don't look forward to removing the struts and working "between the wings" if that is what's required. I certainly won't be undoing the joints on the good struts unless it's the only resort left! :(
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Juan on July 24, 2018, 04:22:17 AM
Wishing you all the best on this setback Lance.  She looks lovely and deserves better.  Looking forward to your success.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on July 24, 2018, 05:46:07 AM
Thanks for the well wishes Juan, confidence is high however I'll need to get some bench presence to see how this unfolds; hopefully my talents at causing self induced problems is matched by the ability to recover from this little foul up! :-\
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on August 11, 2018, 03:35:48 AM
I'm afraid I'm late on another update, this one really progressed quickly once the broken struts were repaired. After several vain attempts to use the cleaned up breaks as "butt" joints I finally had to bite the bullet and remove the broken struts. They were "pinned" with stainless steel wire and reattached with CA successfully although the joins are not nearly as clean as I would like them.

(https://i.imgur.com/yEUdBOV.jpg)

    The upper wing mounting proved an easy exercise using 5 Minute Epoxy to allow some adjustment time and once dried overnight the model was mounted in the "Magic Third Hand" and rigging commenced. I've used a combination of Chamelion 0.12 Mono Line and Modelkasten as usual.

(https://i.imgur.com/duwAuYt.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/N8GYz2C.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PzFADLb.jpg)

    Since completing the interplane rigging the tail and aileron rigging has been added and the wheels attached as well. The model is near finished now and requires only finish touch ups, a prop decal, and the addition of the Rotherham Fuel Pump to the undercarriage frame. Here's several bench top photos as she now sits, more to follow in Completed Models once I do the finishing touches.

(https://i.imgur.com/DTQJIxN.jpg)

...... as you can see in this shot there's a few spots where a bit of "bleed" of thin CA needs touching up.....

(https://i.imgur.com/iWQ6fAY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JRv2UKE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jo0A24c.jpg)

    This is the second of the five Camels I eventually hope to build and, lesson now learned, I'll be taking the time to pin the struts on those following! The Kit is excellent and a modeller with less arthritic and steadier fingers would no doubt be just fine without those added bits, however yours truly, "Mister Twitch", will take the time to add them!
Cheers,
Lance



Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: coyotemagic on August 11, 2018, 03:57:19 AM
Excellent recovery, Lance!  She's a real stunner!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on August 11, 2018, 04:54:54 AM
Thanks Bud, the real key is to avoid having to recover ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Borsos on August 11, 2018, 08:16:10 AM
This is a wonderful Camel, Lance. I am sure in the shortest time all problems during the build will be forgotten.
I love especially the markings, these are a real eyecatcher!
Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: Juan on August 11, 2018, 08:23:37 AM
Beautiful recovery Lance.  Even with you pointing out some flaws, I cannot see them.  Looking forward to seeing her completed.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on August 11, 2018, 08:37:51 AM
Andreas, Juan,
     Thanks for the comments. I've got a little touching up to do on the brass plate outline of the foot step on the port side and she's done. Hopefully an entry into Completed Models tomorrow.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lone modeller on August 13, 2018, 04:45:04 AM
Flaws? What flaws? This is another masterpiece about to take off from the master modellers table.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on August 13, 2018, 05:30:07 AM
Stephen,
    Feedback such as this is a welcome and much appreciated confidence builder, sincere thanks!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: aliluke on August 13, 2018, 04:46:34 PM
That looks absolutely superb Lance. I like the subtle weathering which looks very realistic and just enough (for my tastes that is!).

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on August 14, 2018, 12:29:59 AM
Thanks for looking and commenting Alistair. I kept the weathering fairly light as the ref. photos showed a relatively clean aircraft as opposed to the LeRhone Camel I did earlier.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: mgunns on August 15, 2018, 10:10:11 AM
I like this scheme on the Camel Lance.  The parallel lines look great and the wrap around the cowling is nice and even.  Yes, as mentioned too the recovery of the struts is nice as well.   As you mentioned, the key is not to recovery.  With this and the Ships Camel it's hard to avoid the recovery phase as the cabane struts are always in your face, or hands.  The weathering is nice, not overdone, looks like a machine in service.
Looking forward to the next phase of "Modeling Madness."
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel (Clerget) WM Alexander 10 Naval Sqn.
Post by: lcarroll on August 15, 2018, 11:18:37 AM
Thanks mark,
    That's a very accurate summary of the "strut challenge" alright, and the issue grows with the dimensions of the fingers the Builder uses! I much prefer the method used for strut attachment on some of the other WNW Kits, where the fragile little devils are inserted much later in the process! On the other hand this method ensures a great fit and alignment of the upper wing, assuming you don't rip the cabanes off by accident! All of this whining on my part of course does not help the fact that it was the inter plane struts I "pinged off" on this Build.
    Oh well, lessons learned, and hopefully applied correctly next Camel Build!
Cheers,
Lance