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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Borsos on January 09, 2018, 05:23:32 AM
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Hello friends,
I am not building aircraft models these days because I am overrun with work and I can not enjoy my hobby at the moment facing a project that is too large for me. Normally Ithe only modelling things I can do these days is converting and painting figures as these are quite small projects that I can overlook until things get better again. So my dear Fe2d is on halt right now because I know I would ruin her at the moment.
But I am a big fan of early fighter aircraft of WWI, especially from 1916, so I am waiting for the new Special Hobby Fokker D. II in 1:32 scale since it was announced some months ago. This morning a small parcel arrived from Czech Republic...
So couldn't this cute little bird become finished in an acceptable amount of time? It will be a long way anyway, but it's a small plane and if I should ruin it as my nerves are not the best at the moment, I am not ruining an expensive high end kit. OK, enough babbling for now
(https://picload.org/image/ddlgapwa/9d4d37e8-553f-4568-81a2-03fd9d.jpg)
What's in the Box?
There are three sprues in the small cardbox – a box that is too small for the size of the sprues so they are bent. The first thing I did was to cut the sprues into two parts to release the tension on the plastic.
(https://picload.org/image/ddlgapca/197598aa-25dc-4db8-a151-434a5f.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/ddlgapcr/1ec90f73-1334-4a0b-be13-948500.jpg)
Detail is sharp and crisp and looks like the usual Special Hobby standard; but the 3rd sprue contains the wings – which are banana shaped, as you can see:
(https://picload.org/image/ddlgaplw/294e05a9-5324-4eb3-a4ee-ab1660.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/ddlgapli/d50fcea2-9a7d-41e2-a5e8-7457dc.jpg)
Looking into the WDF it gets obvious that the wings should be entirely straight. After boiling some hot water in our large pasta pot, dipping the wings in for some five seconds and letting them cool down on a flat surface things got straight again.
(https://picload.org/image/ddlgapci/55578e86-0b37-4ec3-8d1c-470e95.jpg)
So, enough for today, back to work... >:(
Best regards
Borsos
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I missed this one having been released. Thanks for posting. On my wish list for sure. I am looking forward to seeing you build this one.
RAGIII
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This is news to me too, and good news at that! I need to have one of these for certain, and will be inquiring as to availability at my usual Canadian Shop. I'll be following your progress closely Borsos, I'm looking forward to seeing this one come together.
Cheers,
Lance
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This is news to me too, and good news at that! I need to have one of these for certain, and will be inquiring as to availability at my usual Canadian Shop. I'll be following your progress closely Borsos, I'm looking forward to seeing this one come together.
Cheers,
Lance
Same for me, I missed this one completely, like Lance I will be checking my local hobby shops for stocks,
Des.
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We can do a group build, as long I can do it in 48 (also Special Hobby, SH48038) ;) Is this a rescale kit?
But I have already to many things started :-\ One day ...
Finished until FFB in march?
Cheers,
Frank
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How did that sneak past us.
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On the Special Hobby website: https://www.specialhobby.eu/en/our-own-production/special-hobby/fokker-d-ii-black-white-tail-1-32-1.html
I have had a look through the instructions: https://www.specialhobby.eu/out/ftp/media/100-SH32065.pdf and it seems well thought out
And at that price, it's an absolute bargain
Richard
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Looking forward to your handy work Borsos. A real treat for the rest of us. Popcorn at the ready. ;D
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Glad to see SH added the seam on the fuselage sides which they completely messed up on the 1/48 kit.
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I just ordered this kit so will be following your build closely.
Des.
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Borsos,
As usual, I expect you will make this to a very high standard. Looking forward to the build of one of my favourite aircraft.
Cheers
Syd
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There was a bit of rumour about that kit coming along some months ago, then, late in autumn, the information, it‘ll be amongst us in December, and since then - nothing. Strange, as the Czechs usually know how to promote and sell...
I‘ll get me one, if the kit goes together well. So, looking forward to your builds, Des and Borsos!
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I just ordered this kit so will be following your build closely.
Des.
Did you find one at one of your shops Des, or order direct from Special Hobby? I'm concerned about the cost of postage etc.
Cheers,
Lance
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I too remember reading about this on this forum. I am surprised to see it's appearance so soon and will be following the build. It certainly will make an interesting model in the collection.
I wonder where they are available from.
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I’ve had this on back order from Hannants for quite a while so glad it’s now been released.
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Sorry to read about your stress levels Andreas: I do hope that they will not last for too long. Sorry too to read that the FE 2d is on hold for the moment as I was enjoying that, but I can wait until you feel able to start again.
Looking forward to seeing this one come together: not usually one that I would be very interested in....but when a master gets going, I have to look over his shoulder!
Stephen.
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Hello,
thank you all for your interest and your kind words!!!
Frank, I don’t think it’s just the upscaled 1/48 kit, because as Charles already pointed out they added the seam in the sides which is missing on the 1/48 SH and the Gavia kit.
Stephen, thank you so much. The Fe2d will be finished for sure! It just needs extra care that I can’t give at the moment.
I cleaned up some parts and dry fitted the fuselage sides. The undercarriage was glued together and attached with the gelb of 0.3mm thread pins.
Now it needs cleaning up and some colors on the interior parts.
(https://picload.org/image/ddlawpaw/226a838e-429c-4a93-92dd-b4c98f.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/ddlawpal/eb12d668-f780-4f06-bf81-cc5b4e.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/ddlawpai/4b4418c4-36cf-4e45-914a-c7e147.jpg)
I have no idea where the kit is available besides of the SH homepage. I placed an order immediately when the “coming soon” advertisement changed into “available “...
Best regards
Borsos
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Hi Andreas,
I am also sorry to hear of your troubles. Been there too, so I keep my fingers crossed for you to recreate soon!
Looking forward to following this build!
Cheers
Ondra
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Thank you very much, Ondra!
All your words proof again what a great place this is here.
Meanwhile I painted the interior. I took the opportunity to replicate the typical Fokker metal with a gel pen which worked perfectly. I cannot remember where I read this idea here on this forum, but thanks for the hint, it's really a simple technique.
(https://picload.org/image/ddcdcgor/2517b0f4-3990-4626-b7fa-2a57ef.jpg)
For the wooden parts I switched from oils to acrylics. Worked fine too and dried within hours.
(https://picload.org/image/ddcdrcor/32f26852-2915-4dbd-82ec-4ca406.jpg)
Here's a test fit of the cockpit component. I am afraid it needs some sanding to fit between the fuselage halves...
(https://picload.org/image/ddcdrcai/9b650926-61b5-4256-af93-f6b3e4.jpg)
As this is a pure fun build, I thought about using the kit's Oberursel U. I. But then I changed my mind and built up a spare Oberursel from Wingnut Wings.
(https://picload.org/image/ddcdrcaw/9eece663-7e44-4c2b-b2ef-08e231.jpg)
Now on to the seatbelts...
best regards
Borsos
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Might have been my E.II buuld you saw the gel pen. Certainly makes life easier and you've done a great job.
Gary
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Magnificent start on this little beauty, Andreas! Your nerves certainly don't show here. I hope things settle down for you at work soon, my friend. I can't imagine any task being too much for you to handle.
Cheers,
Bud
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Andreas,
Great work so far, this Kit really interests me and I'm sure it won't take me long to order one! I hope this "Little Build" relaxes you a bit and provides some therapy. Take it slow and easy my friend, enjoy, and I sincerely hope you are back to normal real soon.
Cheers,
Lance
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Very nice work, Andreas. The seat looks great. I love your unique style of your work.
Bye,
Manni
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Magnificent start on this little beauty, Andreas! Your nerves certainly don't show here. I hope things settle down for you at work soon, my friend. I can't imagine any task being too much for you to handle.
Cheers,
Bud
I agree with Bud on ALL counts Andreas!!
RAGIII
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Very nice work so far.
Lance, I ordered the kit direct from Special Hobby, with currency conversion and postage it came to AU$72.00.
Des.
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Thanks Des. I'll have to wait until the dust settles from my frenzied tearing of the wrapping off the WNW Dolphin that arrived a little over a week ago however watching Borsos' progress here has moved this little gem up to the top of my "next" list! Sorry to interrupt your thread here Andreas, I'll go back to admiring your progress! Great work to this point.
Cheers,
Lance
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Andreas, you made a really good progress here! In two month you should take it with you to the exhibition in FFB - as WIP or already finished, if you continue with that speed ;)
Manni is right - your style of finishing the cockpit looks good!
Cheers,
Frank
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Thank you very much, Ondra!
All your words proof again what a great place this is here.
Meanwhile I painted the interior. I took the opportunity to replicate the typical Fokker metal with a gel pen which worked perfectly. I cannot remember where I read this idea here on this forum, but thanks for the hint, it's really a simple technique.
(https://picload.org/image/ddcdcgor/2517b0f4-3990-4626-b7fa-2a57ef.jpg)
For the wooden parts I switched from oils to acrylics. Worked fine too and dried within hours.
(https://picload.org/image/ddcdrcor/32f26852-2915-4dbd-82ec-4ca406.jpg)
Here's a test fit of the cockpit component. I am afraid it needs some sanding to fit between the fuselage halves...
(https://picload.org/image/ddcdrcai/9b650926-61b5-4256-af93-f6b3e4.jpg)
As this is a pure fun build, I thought about using the kit's Oberursel U. I. But then I changed my mind and built up a spare Oberursel from Wingnut Wings.
(https://picload.org/image/ddcdrcaw/9eece663-7e44-4c2b-b2ef-08e231.jpg)
Now on to the seatbelts...
best regards
Borsos
[/quote. We’re there any fit issues with the Wingnut engine under the cowling? I’m working on the 1/48 B.II and the resin engine is a tough fit. Lots of sanding under the cowl........
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Marvelous job on the cockpit and engine, borsos!
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This is moving at speed Andreas, but there is no loss of quality as a result. The interior is amazing - I wish that I could replicate some of that in God's Own Scale, but I think that the pen tip might be too thick. Will continue to follow as and when time allows over the next two weeks: I am going to be doing a lot of travelling!
Stephen.
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Hello,
thank you very much for your interest and your kind comments!
Gary, yes, now I think it was your E. II build. Really nice! Bud, Lance, Manni, Rick, Des, Ian and Stephen thanks for looking and your nice words!
Frank, if it will be possible for me to go to FFB (which is sadly not sure, but hotel rooms are already booked – I hope I don't have to cancel them), I will bring the D. II with me. I am very keen on seeing your birds in person!
Willy, I know the problem of too large resin engines not fitting the plastic cowlings. The reason is mostly that the resin engines are 100% up to scale, so the cowlings are too thick for them. WNW's rotaries are as far as I know a little under scale to fit their plastic cowlings. So the WNW Oberursel fits the SH cowling perfectly, no trimming needed at all. I'll post pictures as soon as possible.
Work went on as a kind of therapy for me. I never had thought how important gluing little scraps of plastic could become.
Seat belts are made with lead foil, I only used the kit's buckles, cut from the PE belts. I prefer flexible lead foil instead of PE seat belts.
(https://picload.org/image/ddccwlaw/f089f4d2-093b-4ddc-97a1-b97547.jpg)
Meanwhile the fuselage halves are closed and the lower wings are added. At first I was afraid of installing the lower wings according to the instructions. Both wings are connected by a quite small plastic bar that resembles the single wing bar of the original. This configuration connects the wings quite shaky and you can't hold this part on one wing without the other sagging dramatically. My first intention was to cut both lower wings into separate parts, closing the fuselage by adding the bar and then connecting both lower wings to the fuselage with brass rods. But my lazieness brought me to give the intended connection a try and after gluing the part onto the fuselage it became quite a sturdy construction once the glue had hardened.
(https://picload.org/image/ddcwprdl/97444067-7c40-4e54-8a22-362680.jpg)
All the seams are sanded and/or puttied and sanded and I started to add some detail to the exterior. There is a rectagular inspection pannel behind the engine that is a separate part. After gluing and sanding all the details had disappeared so i had to rebuild it by carving the panel lines with a needle and a steel ruler.
(https://picload.org/image/ddcwprda/eba64df2-5802-4d5c-89a6-a00f49.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/ddcwprdi/21100466-eebc-47ca-a169-2a6799.jpg)
Now on to the tail unit! And it is time to think about the color sheme.... I didn't decide yet if I should do a Jasta 16 Fokker, painted by Fritz Grünzweig, or maybe Josef Jacobs dark blue Jasta 12 Fokker. The kit's decals are for two versions, once for Otto Desloch, CO of KEK Ensisheim/Jasta 16 in factory colors (WDF, p. 17, no. 35 and 36) and a bird of the well known Kest 4b at Freiburg marked "Dodo" (op. cit, p. 33, n. 77 along with other Fokker biplanes, a Fokker E IV and a Halberstadt scout). But as I prefer doing frontline airplanes, I tend to doing Grünzweigs less well known Fokker that is shown on p. 22, n. 55 of the WDF. This picture is quite well known and also can be found on the internet:
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/c1/70/8e/c1708e283b98d650029d92f5eeb2162d.jpg)
As Special Hobby is going to release another boxing of their D. II called "Grünzweig's planes", including these markings as decals as well, it may sound like a stupid idea. But anyway, I am going to paint the Heuschrecken-face by brush. But this picture raises several questions:
According to the WDF the first Fokker D. II left the factory in CDL, later ones were spray painted in two or three tone camouflage of brown-green or brown-green-light green respectively (cf. Kissenberth's Fokker D. II). Obviously some Fokkers had their wings and upper fuselage camouflaged, but the sides left CDL. other's have camouflaged sides, too. Camouflaged machines frequently had their metal parts including the cowling camouflaged as well, but the engine fumes removed the color on the lower part of the metal front, exposing the "swirreled" Fokker metal. A closer look at Grünzweigs Fokker shows light fuselage sides. So:
1. Was Grünzweigs plane a CDL-over all airplane or were its wings and upper fuselage camouflaged (the serial number is unknown)
2. The light color on the fuselage sides brings me to the conclusion that this plane didn't have camouflaged sides. There are color profiles on the web that show it with Fokker streaked sides – but there are no traces for them on the photo. The problem is: an uncamouflaged fuselage side speaks for a non-painted engine cowling/metal forward part of the fuselage.But there's the swirling only on the lower part of the forward fuselage side, the upper part including the cowling looks like painted with a solid color. For me that makes three conclusions possible:
a) The upper part of the front part of the fuselage and the cowling were painted a solid color on Jasta level as a kind of primer for the Heuschrecke painting. Then it could be any color appearing in that tone on B/W photos, maybe gray, beige or a light green (like grasshoppers – heuschrecken – look like).
b) The fuselage and/or the whole plane was painted field grey instead of CDL, like many Fokker Eindeckers were painted as we meanwhile know.
c) The shadow of the upper wing makes the swirrled metal look like a solid color on the upper front part of the fuselage.
What do you think – especially regarding my theory that also Fokker D planes could have been painted field grey?
Thank you for your opinions!
Best regards
Borsos
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Borsos,
I have not studied this subject as have you however based on your possible "options" and the photo I would conclude that your theory "a" is the answer. The demarcation between the lower "swirled" cowling and the upper portion is very sharp, and not what we would expect to see from a shadow effect nor paint damage from oil. The definition appears curved, sharp, and symmetrical in the photo, I'd guess/conclude that the upper swirled cowling panels are over painted leaving the lower portions natural swirled metal. I would personally go with that treatment of the metal cowling panels and a lighter (CDL?) fabric fuselage, the painted cowling components in the Field Grey or Grey-Green Primer you mention. That would be my logic.
Great work on what appears to be a very basic Kit, I'm going to file this Thread for future reference. 8) 8) 8)
Cheers,
Lance
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I can't really help with your questions, but I love the work so far on the Fokker! :) Especially those seatbelts look great.
Are you going to scratchbuild the dog? ;-)
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Lance, Thank you, that's my favored answer too. Actually it is a basic kit, but to be fair compared to the original there's not really much missing. I am still browsing the exterior pictures I have for any details that could be added, but I don't find much besides of the tail section. Here I added some brassrod and plastic to improve this area.
Jeroen, I didn't think about the dog yet, but thanks for the idea... maybe I'll have to add it somehow :)
Meanwhile I gave the parts a good shot of Mr Surfacer 1000 and started painting with the white areas:
(https://picload.org/image/ddplrwwa/3435d25c-f4e7-4844-a5c9-a07e08.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/ddplrwwl/e1253a46-e89c-4a24-b748-295b7b.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/ddplrwwi/25dc1d7e-3743-4d91-b65e-04d185.jpg)
Best regards
Borsos
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Your work to date is gorgeous as always. As for the painting scenarios I agree with your interpretation in A.
RAGIII
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I agree with Lance that the cowling looks painted. It also looks like at least the wings might be camouflage painted because looking at the leading edge of the lower wing, there appears to be a clear demarcation between a dark upper surface and the light lower surface. If that is true, then you have to decide if the fuselage sides were left CDL or were over painted like the cowling.
Note: These are the observations of a WWI newbie.
Bill
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I ordered this kit last week, straight from the SH website since Sprue Bros (preferred) does not know when they will have it. Not sure how it will be shipped, I’m just hoping it won’t be aboard some WWII era liberty ship. I just purchased a print of a Fokker D.III from Fine Art America in Chicago to put in the work room (as if I’d be allowed to hang it anywhere else). I have also found some different photos of early Fokkers on Pinterest that I had not yet come across. You might include that website for your research if you don’t already...
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Rick, thanks for your interest. Greatly appreciated as always!
Bill, thanks for your opinion, a sharp eye is a sharp eye and being a "newbie" doesn't minimize somebody's opinion in any way!
Willy, i think you won't be disappointed. It's a really nice kit that needs the usual care for short run products but comes together quite well.
Here are the first pictures of the paint job:
(https://picload.org/image/ddwoiogr/2463ea0b-3dac-4f71-a3bb-c1dadb.jpg) (https://picload.org/image/ddwoiawl/e777b754-a844-4152-8fc4-793484.jpg)
CDL was done with Gunze's buff, the shading with 'smoke' from the same brand. After this I covered the CDL surfaces with AVIATTIC's linen decals. This time I didn't forget to spray a good shot of future before decalling and the linen decals went on like a charm. I regret that the pictures cannot show the whole effect this fine product gives to CDL surfaces. After the decals had dried I sealed them with ALCLAD's gloss.
(https://picload.org/image/ddwildcr/ac95028b-5a6c-456c-af13-1a34ef.jpg)(https://picload.org/image/ddwildca/57eaee7e-855c-4d3e-bf06-4f6d0c.jpg)
The camouflaged surfaces were spraypainted with Revell 46 and 37, shading again Mr Color's 'smoke'. The shading of ribs is in my opinion one of the most problematic parts of the paint job. Because what looks overdone at the first view, almost disappears under a coat of gloss varnish...
(https://picload.org/image/ddwildcl/5e29324f-acc9-43a8-aad6-0734b4.jpg)
Best regards
Borsos
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Beautiful, Borsos! And what an interesting little aeroplane it is! Looking forward to seeing more!!
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Andreas, very nice painting result!
I am not building aircraft models these days because I am overrun with work and I can not enjoy my hobby at the moment facing a project that is too large for me.
So this little model works like balm for your tortured soul, at least it gives the impression.
Have fun with this kit,
Frank
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She's so gorgeous, Andreas! I have this one in 1/48 scale and may have to build it right after the Morane. ;)
Cheers,
Bud
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Andreas,
Very inspiring Build, and I say that seriously ............. I just reserved one at my Canadian Mail Order Shop, due in two weeks!
Cheers,
Lance
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Great as always, Andreas. The shading is so good.
Bye,
Manni
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Gorgeous paint work as always Andreas. Your build has reinforced my decision to order this one over the WNW Junkers D1!
RAGIII
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Thank you very much, Richard, Frank, Bud, Lance, Manni and Rick! Your comments are really appreciated!
I went on with the painting of the Fokker. When I was aware that the quite complex tail section needed further improvement I removed the ruders again...
(https://picload.org/image/dargilwa/9b3f6b5f-9fcf-4ac3-a4f4-3050ba.jpg)
One Problem is: The Serial number of this very grass hopper aircraft is unknown. But there are some pictures in the WDF that show partially erased serials by the exhaust fumes. That seems to have happened after a relatively short time. So I used one of the kit's serial numbers and played "exhaust fumes" with the help of a scalpel blade...
(https://picload.org/image/dargilwi/a5127612-1136-42e6-8dd7-0ade64.jpg)
The stitching on the underside is replicated by the kit's PE parts. They were painted Humbrol 29 before gluing them carefully with some small drops of super glue. Then I shot several coats of flat varnish over the underside that acts as the real cement.
(https://picload.org/image/dargicga/55e14509-b39b-4cf2-aeb4-91641a.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dargilpl/55c8f0b7-db9b-4adb-9dd0-7e30be.jpg)
Pictures of Kissenbert's flying Fokker D. II show an incredible amount of dirt an oil on the sides and the unserside of the canvas covered fuselage parts due to the rotary engine. As the exhaust fumes already erased my serials partially, I weathered sides and underside of the fuselage heavilly as well. I am not sure at the moment if I went a little too far, but as I cannot chane it any more i prefer calling it intentional.
Best regards
Borsos
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Excellent work Andreas, this is turning into another of your masterpieces. :D
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Superb..!! The build and surely the painting...!
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Moving along nicely !
Ed
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To my eyes it looks PERFECT! Not overdone at all. Just Gorgeous work!
RAGIII
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Outstanding work as always, Andreas! Is there any chance to see this gem at Lingen?
Jörg
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Thank you very much, Juan, UFAG, Ed, Rick and Jörg! Jörg, I wished I could go to Lingen this year, but I a happy when I'll be able to attend at least FFB. I have seen so many great pictures and I would love to meet all the forum members who attend there but I have to forward these plans to 2019...
Here are some pics of my recent progresses. Landing gear and tail unit are attached to the fuselage and I started painting the Grasshopper face. I went with Fokker green as the base color, but any other green color would be plausible too. The MG08 is from Gaspatch, the engine is, as said before, from WNW. The rest is OOB:
(https://picload.org/image/darwwcpr/25da1e58-435d-4ae4-9ae6-ca2b78.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/darwwciw/8d5494f3-e19f-4690-a731-7410ad.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/darwwcpa/95ca0f7d-70b2-4283-ac0e-fe7594.jpg)
Now it is looking like a monoplane. A Fokker monoplane! What a nonsense, whoever heared of a Fokker monoplane...! ;D
Best regards
Borsos
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Andreas, this monoplane/Eindecker looks really fantastic!
You made the face freehand :o ?
Cheers,
Frank
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Very nice work, Andreas, well done!
Cheers
Ondra
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Great looking monoplane Andreas ;). All kidding aside, looking great.
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Great to see it growing! Beautiful!!
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Looking terrific Andreas! The artwork on the nose is coming along quite well!
RAGIII
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Amazing work!!
Steve
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Thank you, Frank, Ondra, Juan, Richard, Rick and Steve! Your comments are highly appreciated! Frank, yes, I painted the face freehand according to the only available b/w pic. It was painted at Jasta level using available colors with brushes as well.
Now I turned it into a biplane.
The fitting of the interplane and cabane struts was very nice, everything went tigether quite well. Only the inner front interplane struts could be a little longer. Before adding the topwing I drilled the holes and set the eyelets for the rigging. Now the plane needs its rigging (I am waiting for Bob's buckles. I hadn't realised in time that I had no tubes left. Luckily Bob already sent them quickly as usual and I am waiting for an envelope from GB...), another good cleaning, a last shot of dull varnish and some more oil staining on the metal parts.
(https://picload.org/image/dadcgdgw/14f91a89-ca39-481e-b059-f02c17.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dadcgdrr/9857af66-9960-4e28-8f78-0612a8.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dadcgdgi/a91df165-f482-420d-9684-40b930.jpg)
I really like this kit. It is my second Special Hobby kit and although they look a little clumsy on their sprues they turn into nice little models when assembled.
Thank you!
Borsos
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Awesome Andreas! You are very close now. I am looking forward to seeing this one rigged!
RAGIII
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Beautiful!!
By the way: Which colours did you use for the wings' camouflage?
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Frank, yes, I painted the face freehand according to the only available b/w pic.
Andreas, I just wondered if you already got the decals of that kit:
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/1127014-special-hobby-sh32076-fokker-d-ii-gr-nzweig-s-planes
Nice biplane btw!
Cheers,
Frank
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Woah, this looks so good, Andreas.
The complete paintjob is great, but the handpainted face is the cherry on top.
Bye,
Manni
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My god! I missed this mount.
beautiful work Borsos congratulations!
original plane , original decoration (how do you know it is a Grasshopper ?) and very well painted
have you a fig to represent the dog?
I would like to know a little bit more about the camouflage.
Is this the first camouflage try ? if I am ,ot wrong , in 1916, most of german plane are linen color , blue white or brown isn't it?
Xan
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Very nice work!!
Steve
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Great progress Andreas, you've taken this Kit to another dimension. The shading is outstanding and the hand painted decals a spectacular touch! My Kit has arrived and I'm looking forward to it immensely, not sure of the scheme yet but this post will be a much visited place when I start
Beautiful work. 8) 8) 8)
Cheers,
Lance
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That is a stunning piece of modelling - not that we have come to expect anything less from your talented hands. I like very much the grasshopper markings - very original. Overall the finish is just breathtaking.
Stephen.
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Beautiful!!
By the way: Which colours did you use for the wings' camouflage?
I think Andreas posted he used Revell 46 and 37 for it.
Great looking Fokker, by the way! I love the hand-painted Grasshopper! :)
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Outstanding all around. You did a great job with the artwork freehanded on the cowling. The colors are noteworthy, the shading, it all looks great. A very unique model of a signficant airplane.
I am tempted to get one.
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Beautiful!!
By the way: Which colours did you use for the wings' camouflage?
I think Andreas posted he used Revell 46 and 37 for it.
Great looking Fokker, by the way! I love the hand-painted Grasshopper! :)
Thank you, Jeroen!
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Coming along beautifully!
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excellent build!
thanks for sharing the pictures
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Excellent detail and paint work.
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Hello friends,
Rick, Richard, Frank, Manni, Xan, Steve, Lance, Stephen, Jeroen, Mark, Ian, Ermeio and Ken. thank you for your nice comments!
Yes Richard, I used Revell Aqua Color 46 Nato Olive for the green and 37 Brick red for the brown. I didn't get better tones from any other manufacturer. These and Revell 87 are the last Revell colors I use, I thin them down with window cleaner and they spray quite well.
My god! I missed this mount.
beautiful work Borsos congratulations!
original plane , original decoration (how do you know it is a Grasshopper ?) and very well painted
have you a fig to represent the dog?
I would like to know a little bit more about the camouflage.
Is this the first camouflage try ? if I am ,ot wrong , in 1916, most of german plane are linen color , blue white or brown isn't it?
Xan
Xan, thanks for your questions. I read somewhere that after Grünzweigs arrival at the Jasta (he was an artist) the Jasta was called "Grashüpferstaffel" (grasshopper squadron). But I cannot remember where I read this at the moment.
Regarding the camouflage: It was long time common sense between modern researchers that until mid 1916 all German aircraft were either delivered in CDL or in a so called "sky camouflage" of white or a very pale blue. Meanwhile we seem to know that camouflage was introduced much earlier and many Fokker Eindeckers were in fact painted field grey.
Anyway, sometimes in mid-1916 (some books say June, others say August) Idflieg ordered to camouflage all airplanes with brown and green colors. The undersides should be painted pale blue. It obviously took a while until this directive was widely realized. There are just a few C types of the first generation like Aviatiks, Rumplers or Albatros C. I, that I have seen with brown-green camouflage on, but there were in fact many Rolands C II and Albatros C. III, C. V. C. VII, Aviatiks C. II and III or LVG C. IVs camouflaged.
There also exist many photos of first German biplane scouts, the early Fokker D-types and Halberstadt D-types in CDL or sky camouflage, but many were camouflaged as well. Regarding the Fokkers, many D. IIs were just camouflaged on the upper surfaces of the flying surfaces and the fuselage. Later ones got their fuselage sides camouflaged as well. When the first Albatros D fighters arrived, camouflage was widely common and I never saw an Albatros D. I or D. II with uncamouflaged, CDL wings. In April 1917 Idflieg changed its directive to avoid confusion with Allied camouflage and ordered that the brown was replaced by mauve. That's the story in short. It would be very interesting to read these directives from 1916 and 1917 in its original, but I never did yet. I don't know where they are published or if they are published at all.
Meanwhile I finished rigging on the Fokker and soldered a footstep out of brass (Frank, can you see your influence... ;)). I added a windscreen and worked on the prop, in this case a Garuda. It still needs some coats of clear and its labels...
(https://picload.org/image/daopwgpw/ec258208-f482-4986-9684-a8dae6.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/daopwgwr/9928eb4d-2c88-45ed-a93c-7f8402.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/daopwgwl/51837b83-97b5-436f-a3eb-b1fd23.jpg)
At last I prepaired a pilot from CSM to stand on the base next to the airplane
(https://picload.org/image/daopwgwa/81a0c501-eb35-4845-a7d8-b6f617.jpg)
The figure is, like all CSM offerings I know, wonderfully sculpted and cast.
Best regards
Borsos
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Beautifully rigged and the rest of the grasshopper turned out great! Lovely prop and figure!!
RAGIII
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Outstanding work as usual Andreas. Love the aircraft and figure is sublime.
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Great job, Andreas, excellent painting!
Cheers
Ondra
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Andreas, I hope I'm not to late about a warning about the airscrew!
Something is wrong, it looks like you used the wrong rotation direction. At first I had the feeling that something is wrong, so I checked the Windsock "Fokker Fighters D.I~IV". All the props rotates clockwise in flight direction.
Any chance to see you next weekend in Fürstenfeldbruck?
Cheers,
Frank
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Beautifully rigged and the rest of the grasshopper turned out great! Lovely prop and figure!!
RAGIII
Big Ditto to my Amigo's comments !!!
Ed
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Very nice... OK...more than that. Excellent!
Gaz
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Great build, and a very unusual decoration. It's inspiring.
Ciao
Guseppe
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Andreas, I hope I'm not to late about a warning about the airscrew!
Something is wrong, it looks like you used the wrong rotation direction. At first I had the feeling that something is wrong, so I checked the Windsock "Fokker Fighters D.I~IV". All the props rotates clockwise in flight direction.
Any chance to see you next weekend in Fürstenfeldbruck?
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks a lot Rick, Juan, Ondra, Ed, Gaz and Giuseppe!
Frank, yes you are right, they are twisted. What a silly mistake...! Thanks for the hint. I already prepared another Garuda... and ruined it. This evening I'll do the third. And the build was so problem free -- till now. But well, that's definitely not the fault of the kit ???
FFB, yes, I‘ll be there as things stand right now. Will we meet us there?
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Yes, I'm an exhibitor on both days. Will be on upper floor.
It is so great to be able to meet you in person! Please give me a explicit sign, who you are ;)
Some people, who I do not know yet, promised to come along to meet me too.
See you,
Frank
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Great job, Andreas the figure is great, I love the colourful scarf.
Some of my fellow modelers are in FFB,too. Think I will be there next year, too.
Bye,
Manni
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I do not understand how iI missed this thread... Great modelling, fantastic results!
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Przemo, thank you very much!
Frank, I am sure we'll recognize each other. I am the guy with the WWi stuff :-) I'll have a look around for your desk.
Manni, you won't regret coming to FFB.
I am keen on meeting you in person, guys!
The Prop is done and I call this one finished. More pics now in the "completed" section!
(https://picload.org/image/dalilwol/e36850f1-c118-47a8-b8f1-740aa8.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dalilwoa/bf1ac6f2-b89c-43d4-8c43-524c4b.jpg)
Best regards
Borsos
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Wow Andreas, that prop is just the icing on a multi layer cake.
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That prop is fantastic!
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Gorgeous work on many fronts, and that propeller is exquisite!