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Title: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on January 08, 2018, 08:47:04 PM: Hi everybody.
new year , new project!

We go on with the Jean Navarre short life : final episode...

Until now i represented his principal planes:

at the MS12 from april 1915 to febrery 1916

Morane Saulnier type L and Morane saulnier type N

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010305504323469215435271.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010305504323469215435271.jpg)

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010305504423469215435272.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010305504423469215435272.jpg)

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010305504423469215435273.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010305504423469215435273.jpg)

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010305504523469215435274.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010305504523469215435274.jpg)

at the N67 in Verdun front

four of the seven nieuports 11 and 16 we identified with MArc Chassard :

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010306000623469215435297.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010306000623469215435297.jpg)

Chronologiquement :

ni-11 n°576 febrery of 1916

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010306045523469215435309.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010306045523469215435309.jpg)

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010306091723469215435319.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010306091723469215435319.jpg)

ni-16 n°830 same time

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010306142023469215435325.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010306142023469215435325.jpg)

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010306142023469215435326.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010306142023469215435326.jpg)

le ni-11 n°872 april of 1916

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010306142023469215435323.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010306142023469215435323.jpg)

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010306141923469215435322.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010306141923469215435322.jpg)

le ni-16 N°1130 the 15 of june 1916.

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010306142023469215435324.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010306142023469215435324.jpg)

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010306141823469215435321.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010306141823469215435321.jpg)

Then Navarre was heavily wounded and go to hospital in Sainte Menehould

(http://www.navarre-jean.com/images/JNhopitalOx.jpg)

Navarre is not only fisicaly wounded, he was broken nerviusly. the 15 November his brother, pilot too died.

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010306192323469215435331.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010306192323469215435331.jpg)

Navarre felt in nervous breakdown

He come back in march of 17 but he is just not the same
heaving problem with the police in one of its PAris by night cassions
he is retire of the front and send in a health center

in septembre 1918 he is ready to fight , but war ended.
Morane undustrie take him as master pilot to represent the firm doing exibitions.

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010306294223469215435342.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010306294223469215435342.jpg)

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010306294223469215435343.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010306294223469215435343.jpg)

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010306294323469215435344.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010306294323469215435344.jpg)

(http://www.navarre-jean.com/1919-observateurs-admirent-.jpg)

the 10 of july just before he had 24 years old he crach his plane and die.

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010306475123469215435407.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010306475123469215435407.jpg)

Jean Navarre lie in Tartas a south west little town near his twin brother
(http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escadrille/Tombes_monuments/040_Navarre_Tartas2.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on January 08, 2018, 08:50:42 PM: The plane now

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/04//18010412342823469215435820.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010412342823469215435820.jpg)
http://wingsofwar.forum2jeux.com/t1308-bd-le-pilote-a-l-edelweiss-tome-3 (http://wingsofwar.forum2jeux.com/t1308-bd-le-pilote-a-l-edelweiss-tome-3)
(romain Hugault drawing)

The Morane Saulnier type AI ( militaire name MoS29 et MoS30) will cloce my Navarre plane theme, but other wise fit well in an another thematic: the Morane Saulnier parasol planes

I have three of them :

type L
(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/03//18010305504323469215435271.jpg)

MS 225

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/04//18010412342923469215435821.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010412342923469215435821.jpg)

MS230

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/04//18010412342923469215435822.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18010412342923469215435822.jpg)

A fourth one will be welcome! !

It will be to the ocasion to work for first time with war end french 5 color camouflage.

(http://nsm08.casimages.com/img/2016/11/06//16110609592018634314611225.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Softscience on January 08, 2018, 10:32:58 PM: You do beautiful work! This is a wonderful tribute to Navarre!
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Juan on January 08, 2018, 11:02:01 PM: Agree, beautiful renditions of his aircraft and very nice tribute.
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: lcarroll on January 09, 2018, 01:08:06 AM: Beautiful collection Xan, it's a pleasure to scroll through your Navarre chronicle here, each model is a gem on it's own! The A1 will be a fitting conclusion to your story. Great work!!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Jeff K on January 09, 2018, 01:15:42 AM: superb stuff. the collection gallery and the real photos made the thread into much more than a construction thread.

can you tell i'm a Navarre fanboy.
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: RAGIII on January 09, 2018, 03:42:08 AM: Looking forward to your usual excellence!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Borsos on January 09, 2018, 05:30:42 AM: Great project – although it was a little bit foreseeable, don't you agree? ;)
I will follow that closely! Did I understand you properly and you are planning to build a whole series of Morane parasol planes? I am eagerly thinking about doing a Morane Saulnier P one day, if any usable information on the interior and well drawn plans should come to light...
Best regards
Borsos
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Bughunter on January 09, 2018, 08:25:18 AM: Ah, that type L was yours (found it somewhere in the internet) it is so great!
Good luck with you new Morane! I have also the Hugault comic and the SH kit, but this has a very low priority in my bigger stash for a simple reason: I want to build in a Gnome N, and this typ is (not yet?) available from Small Stuff. So I have enough Small Stuff engines of available types and enough matching kits to build before.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Iancshippee on January 09, 2018, 11:20:43 AM: Looking forward to this, as the AI is one of my all time favorites! I was very happy with how mine came out, not too many pitfalls for me to stumble through. Good luck with it!

Frank, have you tried any Copper State resin engines? They have a Gnome 9n and it goes together very nicely.
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Bughunter on January 10, 2018, 02:56:27 AM: Thank you for the hint to CSM, I was aware of this engine. This will be my fallback solution. Anyway, there are many kits on my prio list before ;)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on January 31, 2018, 06:27:54 AM: I did the cockpit in a quite simple way.

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/12//18011205440323469215446750.jpg)

There in green what is represented and in red what is not , but I did not want to pass a lot of time there....

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/12//18011205440423469215446753.jpg)

and well, it is an special hobby model....
cockpit didn't feet, and I had to sand a lot, but at last i closed it

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/14//18011404470923469215457790.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on January 31, 2018, 06:44:31 AM: next operation the fuselage had not the right form.
I have not vocabulary enough to explain it in english, but I hope the pics will speak by themself....

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/25//18012511154223469215502968.jpg)

I put a lot of surfacer and after a long while I sanded it:

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/30//18013009045423469215522415.jpg)

then surfacer again with airbrush and this is the result:

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/30//18013009045423469215522416.jpg)

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/30//18013009065923469215522419.jpg)

a pic before/after shows the result:

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/30//18013009065923469215522420.jpg)

quite closer to the reality IMO

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/01/22//18012211344823469215492342.jpg)

I have now to do the front part , and there is work to be done too....

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: coyotemagic on January 31, 2018, 08:03:12 AM: Beautiful work, Xan! Your modifications make the fuselage stringers look so much more realistic.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: RAGIII on January 31, 2018, 09:29:05 AM: Quote from: coyotemagic on January 31, 2018, 08:03:12 AM
Beautiful work, Xan! Your modifications make the fuselage stringers look so much more realistic.
Cheers,
Bud

As always I agree completely!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: andonio64 on February 06, 2018, 12:23:01 AM: WOW Xan, fantastic idea! the metal lines stop the sanding paper to give the plane an "angled" look more than a "round" look...
I love that intuition!

Antonio

I have this kit, but I am sure I won't be able to make a similar thing!
:-)
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Borsos on February 06, 2018, 02:18:37 AM: You really did a great job on the fuselage, Xan! A very good idea!
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on February 19, 2018, 06:25:06 PM: Hi everybody!

I went on with the front side.

the morane AI front side is organized in three parts just liike in this Morane type P:

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/02/02//18020202361223469215529885.jpg)

Below, a fixed part in 1, upper fixed part in 2 and a mobil lateral part in 4 with hinges in each side (3)

first the low part done with palstic card, surfacer and aluminium tape

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/02/02//18020204333023469215530079.jpg)

then I usde plastic card to represent the lateral parts. i wanted to represent that metal parts take the fuselage form

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/02/02//18020211461723469215532243.jpg)

then the upper part , only with surfacer

(http://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/02/07/180207085935490796.jpg)

(http://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/02/07/180207090128579614.jpg)

The Navarre Morane is a MoS 30 type , unarmed trainig plane, so i don't know if I had to represent the hinges in 2. in the doubt I did....

then archer rivets and hinges.

I didn't like at all the archer hinges effect so I did them again :

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/02/18//18021811134623469215564785.jpg)

find it better:

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/02/18//18021811103623469215564784.jpg)

final result:

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/02/19//18021912024823469215566683.jpg)

hinges are a little bit oversize but below the wing, it will be OK
akyway better that how it was at the begining...

(http://nsm07.casimages.com/img/2018/02/08//18020810264823469215543163.jpg)

next step , the engine and the cowling

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: coyotemagic on February 20, 2018, 04:57:28 AM: Beautiful work, Xan!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: RAGIII on February 20, 2018, 07:04:15 AM: Outstanding work. Your additions/corrections are amazing.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Bughunter on February 20, 2018, 07:11:58 AM: That is very clearly a reference build of that kit - a true master at work!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: rayb24 on February 20, 2018, 11:51:54 AM: Beautiful work so far Xan, but so sad to see what Navarre looked like in 1915 and then in 1918. I have a more than passing interest in him, so will watch this build with great interest, hopefully it will inspire me to get back to work on my N11
Ray
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Borsos on February 20, 2018, 10:33:54 PM: Xan, what all the others have said: A really amazing build and I am deeply impressed how you corrected the fuselage.
Andreas
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: dr 1 ace on February 21, 2018, 06:13:18 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on January 31, 2018, 09:29:05 AM
Quote from: coyotemagic on January 31, 2018, 08:03:12 AM
Beautiful work, Xan! Your modifications make the fuselage stringers look so much more realistic.
Cheers,
Bud

As always I agree completely!

And I make 3 !

Ed
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on March 22, 2018, 06:29:09 PM: Hello everybody!

the engine:

MoS27 and Mos 29 had a gnome 9B160hp; trainer version i am doing had a Le Rhone 9j 120hp

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/02/24//18022406020623469215576455.jpg)

another pic:

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/02/24//18022406020623469215576458.jpg)

Special hobby only propose the first one, so i had to adapt it:

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/02/24//18022406020623469215576456.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/02/24//18022406020623469215576457.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: pepperman42 on March 22, 2018, 11:22:53 PM: Amazing work!!

Steve
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: lcarroll on March 22, 2018, 11:30:17 PM: Some serious cutting and hacking going on here with very impressive results, nice work Xan!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: RAGIII on March 23, 2018, 06:19:01 PM: The engine looks great in place. Looking FANTASTIC!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on March 24, 2018, 10:18:18 PM: The tail now....

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/03/19//18031911410323469215621977.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/03/19//18031911280323469215621969.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/03/19//18031911280323469215621970.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/03/19//18031911280323469215621971.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/03/20//18032011591223469215623639.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/03/24//18032401070423469215629469.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/03/24//18032401070423469215629470.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/03/24//18032401070423469215629471.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/03/19//18031911410423469215621978.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: RAGIII on March 24, 2018, 10:26:14 PM: Ass always this one just keeps getting better and better! Beautiful work on the tail surfaces!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Juan on March 24, 2018, 10:49:11 PM: Outstanding Xan, love the attention to detail you are bringing.
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on March 26, 2018, 04:46:30 AM: description of the landing gear for those who can read in french

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/03/25//18032508054323469215632079.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/03/25//18032508052323469215632077.jpg)

fuselage is over:

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/03/25//18032508052223469215632076.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18032508052223469215632076.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Umlaufmotor on March 26, 2018, 06:15:41 AM: @xan
You are showing us an excellent work on this small, but fine French fighter.
I like it very much.
Bravo!

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: RAGIII on March 26, 2018, 07:46:48 AM: Your usual excellence in Modeling!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Borsos on March 26, 2018, 07:51:15 AM: Xan, as all the others said: You are doing a great job on this kit. You are reworking the whole kit to an extend that Is already something like scratch building. Très joulie!
Andreas
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on April 08, 2018, 03:02:50 AM: Hello!
I am preparing the struts

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/07//18040706494623469215656062.jpg)

Of course i broke all my drills before I ended the stuff...
so I had to buy again in internet...
Meanwhile, let' see another thing...

Paint!

1 step, colour definition and gunze or tamiya equivalences...

but let's beginning with an historic...

since middle of 1916 french plan's fabrics are covered with silver dope wich protect it againt UV

in the beginnning of 1917 colour pigment are introduced in the dope keeping the aluminium pigment.
and a five colour camouflage is proposed. Bur it is still dope and not paint.
Ripolin propose paint in the same colors for metal and wooden parts.

here the 5 colour sheme:

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/07//18040705563523469215655981.jpg)

As far as I know, two autochrome show us this camouflage:deux autochromes qui nous montrent ce camouflage:

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/07//18040705563623469215655982.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/07//18040705563623469215655983.jpg)

In "Cross and cockades" the "butterfly" project worked on this camouflage un the 70's and later Alan Toelle wote an article about this camouflage in the Windsock vol.30 n°1

we can found here the proportion of diferents pigments of each color

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/07//18040705563623469215655984.jpg)

Lance Krieg applied those mix in his models.

Marc Chassard French specialist of french WWI aviaiton went more far:
He bought fabric, dope and pigments, and applied the dope in the fabric as it was done in 1917, respecting all the coats...
then, he cutted little piece and propose a colour shart very accurate...

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/07//18040706361123469215656049.jpg)

it was my reference to find equivalences in gunze or tamiya.
i took alll the paints i had aronud the fabric colour and test them

here is the result colour by colour:

beige
(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/07//18040705563623469215655985.jpg)

light green
(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/07//18040705563823469215655988.jpg)

dark green
(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/07//18040705563923469215655989.jpg)

brown
(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/07//18040705563723469215655987.jpg)

light yellow
(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/07//18040705563723469215655986.jpg)

final result:

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/07//18040706415123469215656056.jpg)

just have to test it now....

in a second step i will try to resolve how to represent the metalic aspect of the dope

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Bughunter on April 08, 2018, 03:24:12 AM: You made a really fantastic progress on this little bird!
Your details: simply WOW!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on April 09, 2018, 08:32:02 AM: Quote from: xan on April 08, 2018, 03:02:50 AM
just have to test it now....
That's what I did ...
horreur!

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/09//18040912255723469215658401.jpg)

what i ridiculuos with my methodic approach...
so I take again and look for colors closer at the Chassard colour chart.
In fact, I rework the light green and the beige.
And that is what I reach:

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/09//18040912255723469215658400.jpg)
the global tonality seems to be OK thiis time

so, here the new equivalences:

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/09//18040912255823469215658402.jpg)

Paint seems OK comparing with the chart, we have noow to compare the chart with other elements....

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: RAGIII on April 09, 2018, 11:16:59 PM: I love your research and development on the colors! That is one ODD Looking Morane in the test photos ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on April 10, 2018, 12:15:52 AM: Thanks Rag!

well the color are quite strange to our eyes and a little far of what we are used to see on 5 colour french camouflage...
particullary the light green, very "zinc chromate".....

but in this original 5 colours camouflage scheme: the light green is in the same tonality...

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/09//18040904035923469215659222.jpg)

Of course we have to hve in mind it could be a lot odf diferences betwwen dopes, because there was a lot of providers...

But this proposition seems coherent for me because it have been done after a serius work, so i keep go on with it....

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on April 10, 2018, 01:53:22 AM: second challenge, represent the metalic appearence of the fabric...

42% of each color pigment were aluminium flakes; it had to have a inlfuence.

fabric parts around the squadron symbol put side by side show as an evidence the metallic appearence of the fabric:...

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/09//18040905485023469215659432.jpg)

After a lot of trys, rub'n'buf dry brushing mixing alclad with paint, and more thing I had allways the same problem when the paint was shiny enought it lost its original colour.
At last i find a way: mixing rub'b'buf with mealt withwhite spirit (a hard dilution)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/09//18040905485023469215659433.jpg)

the colour remain and it shine in fonction ooof the light just as I wanted....

show can go on, i think this problem is resolved!

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Borsos on April 10, 2018, 02:54:38 AM: Your color experiments are really convincing, Xan.
Just for my interest: I know in some British colors (e. g. Brunswick green for artillery pieces) there were components that blackened over the years. So many British artillery pieces seem to have been much lighter 100 years ago than they appear today in their museums. Could that be the case with French aircraft colors as well?
Borsos
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: GazzaS on April 10, 2018, 07:00:09 AM: Xan,
Very interesting way to get a metallic finish.

well done!

Gaz
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on April 14, 2018, 07:39:25 PM: wing now...

that what I have as reference:
(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/14//18041410494423469215666721.jpg)

I used HGW ribs tape:
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/lY4AAOSwwARasXHo/s-l1600.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/14//18041410494323469215666719.jpg)

There is a large seam in the fuselage
(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/14//18041410494423469215666722.jpg)

This one is archer

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/14//18041410494323469215666720.jpg)

well boys, time to paint...

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: RAGIII on April 14, 2018, 10:08:40 PM: The rib tapes and stitching came out great and really add to the model! Continuing to be your usual outstanding build!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: GazzaS on April 15, 2018, 08:02:43 AM: Very nice work on the fuselage. I really like how you can see the paint brush marks in the aluminum dope on your sample photos.

Gaz
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: pepperman42 on April 15, 2018, 08:10:40 AM: Excellent process!!

Steve
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on April 17, 2018, 06:20:21 AM: Amazing as always
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: GAJouette on April 17, 2018, 09:50:45 AM: Xan,
How did I miss awesome project? Outstanding progress to date my old friend. I do very much appreciate your work on the French colors. Personally I've never been too happy with most available French WWI paints. Thank you very much!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: gbrivio on April 17, 2018, 06:12:33 PM: Gorgeous build and a great compendium of modelling tecniques, thank you for sharing.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: lcarroll on April 17, 2018, 11:40:38 PM: Quote from: gbrivio on April 17, 2018, 06:12:33 PM
Gorgeous build and a great compendium of modelling tecniques, thank you for sharing.
Ciao
Giuseppe

Xan,
Giuseppe has said it very well, this is how a Build Log should be done ....... great research, fine detail, and a superb result! I also echo Greg's comments on the French paints, very informative and already stuffed away in my bookmarks for future reference!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: petrov27 on April 18, 2018, 12:19:21 AM: Brilliant build and log here. Your colour analysis of what paints to use is top notch - very interested to see the effect on the AI
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: krow113 on April 18, 2018, 12:40:24 AM: Very nice.
I don't see much use of the metal wax' good to see someone use it.
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Bughunter on April 18, 2018, 03:35:40 AM: Still watching open-mouthed!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on April 18, 2018, 05:38:53 AM: thank you all!

I went on with the paint. for the camo, I used the oficial specificaiton ooooof Morane Saulnier house. the same drawing learn is intrados was painted in silver.

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/17//18041709260423469215673092.jpg)

here is the result , quite psychedelic:

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/17//18041709260223469215673087.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/17//18041709260323469215673089.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/17//18041709260323469215673090.jpg)

(http://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/17//18041709260323469215673091.jpg)

I put a varnish coat and now, last but not least, I have to cover with a coat of very diluated rub in white spirit...

pass or crash

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: RAGIII on April 18, 2018, 07:32:08 AM: The colors are perfect and your paint work even better!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: GAJouette on April 18, 2018, 11:32:53 AM: Xan,
Outstanding paint work my old friend.Truly beautiful!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Manni on April 18, 2018, 03:14:10 PM: Extreme good paintjob. The colours are perfect chosen. They bring a lot of depth and live to the surface.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: GazzaS on April 18, 2018, 06:08:34 PM: Brilliant!
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Borsos on April 19, 2018, 12:06:15 AM: Awesome paintjob. Very good choice of colors!
Andreas
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Doug Mace on April 19, 2018, 04:32:04 AM: Yes, Xan... vraiment beau travail...et dans 1/48!.... incredible.
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Bughunter on April 20, 2018, 06:27:12 AM: Really fantastic build!
I like also the detailed sketches from this french book! It this available somewhere in net?

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on April 23, 2018, 06:06:19 AM: Well, fusekage is done, struts are painted and wing is ready: Show must go on!

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/22//18042209582423469215681608.jpg)

this picture to show what will camouflage loocking for

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/04/22//18042209582423469215681607.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: pepperman42 on April 23, 2018, 07:32:38 AM: Great looking model!!

Steve
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: RAGIII on April 23, 2018, 08:07:27 AM: Looks even better with the wing in place! Outstanding work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: gbrivio on April 23, 2018, 02:34:17 PM: Great work.
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Borsos on April 24, 2018, 02:10:45 AM: Really great progress. Outstanding modeling.
Andreas
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: GazzaS on April 25, 2018, 06:50:56 AM: Brilliant!

Gaz
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on May 03, 2018, 06:07:18 PM: hi everybody

things are going on:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/03//18050310045523469215697429.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/03//18050310045623469215697430.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/03//18050310045623469215697431.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/03//18050310045523469215697428.jpg)

Result:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/03//18050310045623469215697432.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/03//18050310045723469215697433.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/03//18050310045723469215697434.jpg)

End is quite near...

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Manni on May 03, 2018, 07:17:50 PM: Superb work on the struts, Xan.
Looks really good.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: GazzaS on May 03, 2018, 07:38:52 PM: I agree those struts do look fab!
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: wmoran on May 03, 2018, 09:08:27 PM: Really great way to detail those strut fittings. You've done a terrific job on this model.

Bill
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: RAGIII on May 03, 2018, 11:00:04 PM: Beautiful work on the struts and fittings!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: lcarroll on May 03, 2018, 11:13:47 PM: Xan,
The struts and fittings are superbly done, and really take this model well into the "Top Drawer" Class. Terrific work and a model to be very proud of!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: krow113 on May 04, 2018, 01:39:01 AM: Nicely done!
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Borsos on May 04, 2018, 06:25:37 AM: Great job on these complex struts. Very nice, Xan!
Andreas
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: GAJouette on May 04, 2018, 10:17:57 AM: Xan,
Beautiful work on her oh so complex struts my old friend. Not to forget your fittings they're quite beautiful too. Keep up the high excellence.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Bughunter on May 05, 2018, 04:38:01 AM: Wow, you know how to create such little beauties! The work on the struts is amazing.

Cheers
Frank
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on May 10, 2018, 03:57:56 PM: Ringing is done:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/10//18051012211523469215706238.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/10//18051012211523469215706237.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/10//18051012211623469215706239.jpg)

models is practicaly done.

i will do the final pics when i receive the decals (serial in the tails), a little weathering (plane was brand new, the exibition plane of Morane Saulnier)

Meanwhile I start with next project:
http://1914.forumactif.com/t115-aviatik-c-1-copper-state-models-1-48#543 (http://1914.forumactif.com/t115-aviatik-c-1-copper-state-models-1-48#543)

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: RAGIII on May 11, 2018, 12:20:05 AM: Amazing work all around. Your attention to details is second to none! Lovely results as always!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Pedja on January 25, 2020, 07:13:54 PM: First of all, great model and great deatil build.
Since I Am preparing this kit to build , i wish to thank you for this great build review, it will help a lot to me.
Thanks once more.
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: xan on February 23, 2020, 09:51:08 PM: You are welcome!

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type AI special hobby 1/48: the last Navarre's plane
Post by: Alexis on February 24, 2020, 10:28:36 AM: Fantastic outcome ! :)

Terri