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Title: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on September 12, 2017, 06:05:00 AM: So the time has come for me to start my Camel, the first one from two models planned. This actually is the kit from the WNW Duellists box. Still, I was not fully convinced with the colour schemes WNW offers in that boxing, lacking any photographic evidence. Incidentally, this kit is the Clerget version so I thought it would be nice to choose an option from the Clerget boxing. And here a great help from this forum member, Boggie, came - he generously sent me for free the ENTIRE Clerget decal sheet and made it possible to choose whichever option I might like. So to honour his Australian nationality and to be close to the original WNW choice for duellists, I decided to build another 4 Sqn AFC machine - the well known and documented Boomerang-W flown by HG Watson. Many thanks, again, Boggie, for making it possible!

Here is the first report, though, actually, I have been working on the interior for a couple of days now. Now, finally reaching the stage that the sub-assemblies are almost ready to get together, the first photos were taken.
I decided to include all the turnbuckles visible in the cockpit, both on the rigging and control lines. Beyond these, the rest is from the kit. Before assembling I plan to attach all the control lines, with rudder, skid and elevator lines running through their entire length inside the fuselage to the prepared openings in the rear segment, those for ailerons just to the fuselage sides. And when it all gets together but before encapsulating it inside the fuselage, I also plan to add a few missing fuel pipes, which are clearly visible in the photos, even in the very WNW instruction book.

(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-31.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-32.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-33.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-34.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-35.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-36.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-37.jpg)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Des on September 12, 2017, 06:46:31 AM: You have made an excellent start with this build Przemol, the interior details and painting are superb and the instrument panel is extremely well done.

Des.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: coyotemagic on September 12, 2017, 07:39:58 AM: Exquisite, as always, Przemon!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Juan on September 12, 2017, 08:09:58 AM: Wow...... beauty
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on September 12, 2017, 08:11:05 AM: Gorgeous work as always. I am looking forward to seeing your next update!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: dr 1 ace on September 12, 2017, 10:05:34 AM: Another lesson in excellence has been started !

Ed
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: lcarroll on September 12, 2017, 11:19:30 AM: Wonderful start Prze, and once I get that pesky D.VIII put to bed I'm at the same stage as you on my Camel. I'll be rolling soon and hope to catch up........ ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Manni on September 12, 2017, 03:21:26 PM: Great start.
Again, there will be lots of things to learn from your build.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: aliluke on September 12, 2017, 04:16:15 PM: Brilliant - as usual from you!
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Jacek on September 12, 2017, 05:53:17 PM: Another "master" model begins.
I have to see it !
Regards.
Jacek
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: lone modeller on September 13, 2017, 03:17:49 AM: Quote from: Jacek on September 12, 2017, 05:53:17 PM
Another "master" model begins.
I have to see it !
Regards.
Jacek

Ditto from me!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Gisbod on September 13, 2017, 04:43:05 AM: Excellent Prze!

Guy
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: xmald on September 14, 2017, 05:50:04 AM: It all looks great! I really prefer your way of painting the woodgrain over the decals ;)
Another masterpiece in the making...
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: boggie on September 14, 2017, 01:41:29 PM: Greetings Prze :)

Your Camel's office is looking great and, as always, I look forward to more.

Thank you for your appreciative comments. I am honoured, (and a little humbled.)

Though, as you are providing this great build log for the same AFC Camel I intend to build, it is I who Thank You.

And I intend to plagiarise as much as my modest ability will permit! ;D

cheers :)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on September 19, 2017, 05:08:07 AM: Thank you everybody for this fantastic welcome to my new build. I feel very much flattered.

But then, here is more. The interior bits got together like Lego bricks, all 10 control lines were tricky to pass through the correct holes but after some effort I managed to sort them out. A few fuel lines mysteriously omitted by WNW were added. And this is how it looked like before zipping the fuselage.

(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-38.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-39.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-40.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-41.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-42.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-43.jpg)

And just afterwards...

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/CamelW/camw-44_zpsa78ax1ax.jpg)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Bughunter on September 19, 2017, 05:27:16 AM: What a great show here!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: xmald on September 19, 2017, 06:42:49 AM: Top notch Przemo!
What metallic paint have you used here?
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on September 19, 2017, 07:00:37 AM: Thank you, Frank and Filip.

Quote from: xmald on September 19, 2017, 06:42:49 AM
What metallic paint have you used here?

Vallejo metallic: aluminium, dark aluminium and a custom mix of them, as well as copper. And Vallejo Brass but that not from the metallic range.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on September 20, 2017, 12:52:16 AM: Przemol,
Incredible work as always. The interior is perfect and those control wires.... I can't think of a superlative at just keeping them in line let alone running them to where they belong!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: lone modeller on September 20, 2017, 03:31:57 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on September 20, 2017, 12:52:16 AM
Przemol,
Incredible work as always. The interior is perfect and those control wires.... I can't think of a superlative at just keeping them in line let alone running them to where they belong!
RAGIII
I completely agree with Rick: putting in and controlling all of those threads would have tested my patience! As always your standard of painting and construction is impeccably good.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Jeff K on September 24, 2017, 08:57:23 PM: another educational build. i'm taking copious notes for when i attempt Camels.

those turnbuckles look very scale. how'd you do 'em? Gaspatch or scratch or... ? if Gaspatch are they 1/48?
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: davec on September 24, 2017, 11:48:08 PM: agree -absolutely incredible. and to add to Jeff's questions - how are the turnbuckles anchored to the frame, and how are the wires attached to the turnbuckles.

thanks!!

Dave
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on September 25, 2017, 06:02:46 AM: Thank you, gentlemen.

Jeff and Dave:
The turnbuckles are 1/48 scale Gaspatch type C with loops at both ends. I attach them to the frames by twisting a copper wire eyelet (like the one from Bob's buckles) to one of the loops. Then the eyelet tail is trimmed to fit the depth of a drilled hole in the frame. The line is then tied to the other loop using a polyimide tube section. I showed it in my rigging presentation (page 30, 31) available here at this forum in the Rigging for Everyone section.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: dr 1 ace on September 25, 2017, 09:01:46 AM: Just keeps getting better ...
Eed

ps: speaking of the "lines" what exactly are the lines you are using? The nylon panty thread glued per your tutorial or ....?

Ed
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 01, 2017, 08:09:11 AM: Quote from: dr 1 ace on September 25, 2017, 09:01:46 AM
Just keeps getting better ...
Eed

ps: speaking of the "lines" what exactly are the lines you are using? The nylon panty thread glued per your tutorial or ....?

Ed

Ed, I use nylon thread for non structural rigging in 1/72 scale. For the structural rigging in 1/32 I use 0.12 mm black fishing line.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: xmald on October 02, 2017, 03:43:02 AM: Great work as always Przemo!
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - double - HG Watson and KM Murray (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 03, 2017, 03:27:19 AM: Thank you, Filip!

In the matter of fact I have been planning this build as a double one, with the Polish version with Bentley engine as one of the two. But I was stopped in this original idea by the fact, that the colours on the 7th Squadron badge decal were too British, especially the ultramarine blue and the shape of the details therein a little bit wrong. But now, when the replacement decals were prepared by my reliable friends from Melius Manu the situation changed. Thus, I decided to break the work on Watson's W and start and progress with the Polish Camel to reach the same stage and then to continue with both of them.
Hence, here is the current state of Watson's, ready for painting.

(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-45.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-46.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camw-47.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/hQ2XwR/camw_48.jpg)

Also the wings, stabilizers, ailerons, rudder have the holes or the eyelets prepared.

And I have started working on the Polish Camel. Here I plan to use the replacement Vickers guns from Gaspatch which came to me as a gift from my friend, Łukasz - thank you!

(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camp-33.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camp-31.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camp-32.jpg)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Juan on October 03, 2017, 04:57:17 AM: Two for the price of one, great news. Both looking good.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson 4Sqn AFC (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 03, 2017, 08:23:24 AM: Quote from: PrzemoL on October 01, 2017, 08:09:11 AM
Quote from: dr 1 ace on September 25, 2017, 09:01:46 AM
Just keeps getting better ...
Eed

ps: speaking of the "lines" what exactly are the lines you are using? The nylon panty thread glued per your tutorial or ....?

Ed

Ed, I use nylon thread for non structural rigging in 1/72 scale. For the structural rigging in 1/32 I use 0.12 mm black fishing line.

Thank you !

Ed
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on October 03, 2017, 08:31:42 AM: It doesn't get any better than this! Two at once from your talented hands!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Des on October 03, 2017, 08:52:31 AM: You are doing a superb job on both kits, quite an undertaking but in your capable hands they should end up as two excellent models.

Des.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 12, 2017, 07:55:33 PM: Thank you, gentlemen.

The progress on Polish Camel. The innards are almost ready to be closed within the fuselage. Just the missing fuel lines need to be added. The work follows almost precisely the footsteps taken earlier with Watson's.

(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camp-34.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camp-35.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camp-36.jpg)
(http://www.ikb.poznan.pl/przemyslaw.litewka/modele_pliki/camp-37.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/hKnXwR/camp_38.jpg)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: davec on October 12, 2017, 08:46:18 PM: Beautiful cockpit. Love the leather belt and the effect of all that detail packed into a tight space.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: boggie on October 13, 2017, 02:43:35 PM: Beautiful! :)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on October 13, 2017, 05:57:15 PM: Fantastic cockpit! Beautifully painted and detailed as always!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Juan on October 13, 2017, 07:19:49 PM: Must agree with all the above, beautiful as always.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: lone modeller on October 14, 2017, 03:17:30 AM: What the others have already written: you modelling is an art form in itself, in addition to being superbly realistic.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Alexis on October 14, 2017, 09:24:45 AM: I'm all smiles , beautiful work :)

Terri
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 27, 2017, 06:06:35 AM: Thank you, everybody.

Today, finally, I have some more progress to report. After long tedious evenings with cleaning, sanding, drilling, eyeletting, etc, I could start with airbrushing. Silver noses and darker PC10 zones on wood and metal panels are done

Watson's:

(https://image.ibb.co/jNPBt6/camw_51.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/dtRD6R/camw_50.jpg)

Murray's

(https://image.ibb.co/emuN0m/camp_41.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/iX6fmR/camp_40.jpg)

The PC10 on Murray's in very dark in the photos, I decided to make it really darker then on Watson's.

In both cases there was a small problem with lower wing fit to the fuselage. Initially I though I could postpone this assembly after airbrushing. But then I discovered that the linen area under the fuselage extends onto the lower interplane section of the kit parts leaving a substantial gap. I decided to fill those with thin polystyrene strips, and then sand. It is visible as white strips under the fuselage. Now the CDL can be applied.

I have also painted and assembled the engines.

Clerget for Watson's

(https://image.ibb.co/cwLHY6/camw_49.jpg)

and Bentley for Murray's

(https://image.ibb.co/nHPBt6/camp_39.jpg)

Needless to say, they still lack the electric wires to the spark plugs and dirt.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: GAJouette on October 27, 2017, 08:23:25 AM: Prze,
As I've come to expect from your bench,Outstanding modeling my old friend. Keep up the hyper excellence. Looking forward to seeing more in the next up date.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette

PS: I'd love to see what wonders you could work using either the old or new tool Hobbycraft Camel as the donor kit. I believe you could make it impossible to tell the difference between the HC Camel and Wingnut's beautiful offering.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on October 28, 2017, 09:55:43 PM: The PC 10 and engines look awesome as always!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Juan on October 28, 2017, 11:57:00 PM: Looking good as always Prze, really looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 29, 2017, 02:46:53 AM: More and more good stuff !!

Ed
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: lcarroll on October 29, 2017, 11:02:11 AM: Looking very nice indeed Prze! That joint where the fabric meets the metal under the wing is a pain, I'm about to mount my painted wing on the fuselage, and fill that gap in, and then refinish the area all over again! Your PC-10 looks very convincing to my eye.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 30, 2017, 06:48:51 PM: Thank you, everybody. The progress is slow, I have to wait for a delivery from Japan, I ran out of Aizu tape for rib tapes shading. So I am slowly working on the other details not to waste fully the modelling time. Some photos will come when the progress is worth taking my camera out.

Gregory, I am afraid you are far too kind. Accidentaly, a Hobbycraft Camel in Italeri disguise landed in my hands a few days ago. A comparison with WNW is striking, to say the least. And I am sure, that bringing its surface detail (or the lack thereof) to the WNW standard is well beyond my skills (and intents, too). Anybody would easily tell the difference if I ever tried to build it. But I will not, I am sorry :) IMHO it would be a waste of my modelling time to deal with poor kits when good ones are available, not my cup of tea. ;)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: xmald on October 31, 2017, 01:50:47 AM: Quote from: PrzemoL on October 30, 2017, 06:48:51 PM
The progress is slow, I have to wait for a delivery from Japan, I ran out of Aizu tape for rib tapes shading. So I am slowly
You can buy the Aizu tape in Poland as well ;) Is it cheaper that way?

BTW great build Przemek! I always follow yours WiP threads with a great interest.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 31, 2017, 07:13:11 AM: Thanks, Filip.

Yes, I know Aizu is available in Poland but getting it from HLJ is twice cheaper, including postage!
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on November 07, 2017, 06:08:51 AM: More work on Camels.

Engines with propellers ready

Bentley

(https://image.ibb.co/k4Ye8G/camp_42.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/dNXHvw/camp_43.jpg)

Clerget

(https://image.ibb.co/n9Ye8G/camw_52.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/gCN6oG/camw_53.jpg)

Struts, wheels and cowlings

(https://image.ibb.co/eaye8G/camp_44.jpg)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Juan on November 07, 2017, 10:00:53 AM: Wow Prze, looking good as always. Just lovely.... :D :D
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: andonio64 on November 07, 2017, 05:48:06 PM: Hi Przemol, I catch up just now with this fantastic WIP...
I just can say I will sit and enjoy it!
;-)

AnDonio
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on November 08, 2017, 12:36:20 AM: Engines, Props, and wheels are all your usual beautiful work !
RSGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Bughunter on November 08, 2017, 01:43:00 AM: Beautiful engine and parts, fantastic work and painting!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Carpo on November 10, 2017, 07:27:51 PM: HeyPrzemoL,
I am enjoying these for so many reasons.
Your talented modelling skills of course!
The subjects are Australian! Thumbs up!
And who builds two models at the same time?????

Loving it!
Carpo
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on November 11, 2017, 04:07:37 AM: Thank you, gentlemen.
Carpo, I am not the only one making double builds here :-)

The progress of recent days - main paint work completed!

(https://image.ibb.co/j1ZrtG/camp_45.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/mLgt7b/camp_46.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/iSXBtG/camp_47.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/eMPfnb/camp_48.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/bxXBtG/camp_49.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/dsVLnb/camp_50.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/bN0mSb/camw_54.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/kh0mSb/camw_55.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/d4bX0w/camp_51.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/k3aQLw/camp_52.jpg)

Now for decalling!
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on November 11, 2017, 04:57:52 AM: Both are absolutely gorgeous! As always your shading is terrific!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: buzby on November 11, 2017, 07:07:36 AM: is it still mastery of craftsmanship only?
look awesome - both.

cheers,
8)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: UFAG on November 11, 2017, 07:50:07 AM: Sublime...!
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: boggie on November 11, 2017, 11:30:35 AM: G'day Prze. :)

Pleased to see more progress on your "gemini" build.

I too like your degree of shading as well as your chosen PC colours. 8)

Very nicely executed. :)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Jacek on November 11, 2017, 08:14:24 PM: Perfect shading !
Regards
Jacek
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: xmald on November 11, 2017, 09:18:38 PM: Superb shading Przemek! I really like it. Not overdone - spot on. Two thumbs up mate :)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: jeroen_R90S on November 12, 2017, 06:32:04 AM: Not only that, but I like the tonal differences between the forward parts and the fabric, too! :)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on November 21, 2017, 05:56:23 AM: The builds are progressing. Decalling, shading of decals (upper wings and rudders), weathering on the underside, beginning of the final assembly. Here it is how they stand by now.

(https://image.ibb.co/m9CHdR/camp_58.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/giWcdR/camp_57.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/g1L3JR/camp_56.jpg)
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(https://image.ibb.co/miyCCm/camp_54.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/jLdCCm/camp_53.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/e43156/camw_60.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/gHrcdR/camw_59.jpg)
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Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Juan on November 21, 2017, 09:48:03 AM: Both looking outstanding. Your double builds are awesome.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: andonio64 on November 21, 2017, 05:20:18 PM: What a Beautiful pair!

Antonio
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: boggie on November 21, 2017, 09:10:55 PM: Inspirational! :)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: lone modeller on November 22, 2017, 04:06:00 AM: Quote from: andonio64 on November 21, 2017, 05:20:18 PM
What a Beautiful pair!

Antonio

My sentiments entirely.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: UFAG on November 22, 2017, 05:24:03 AM: outstanding indeed..!!
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: dr 1 ace on November 22, 2017, 09:00:00 AM: Quote from: lone modeller on November 22, 2017, 04:06:00 AM
Quote from: andonio64 on November 21, 2017, 05:20:18 PM
What a Beautiful pair!

Antonio

My sentiments entirely.

Big DITTO !!

Ed

Stephen.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Manni on November 22, 2017, 04:16:12 PM: Wonderful, noting more to say.
Manni
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: buzby on November 22, 2017, 08:06:29 PM: so inspiring, look forward to see next steps

8)
buzby
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on November 24, 2017, 08:54:26 AM: Your Markings and shading have really brought these two to life! Your usual Brilliant work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on November 26, 2017, 07:47:47 AM: Thank you, everybody, for your kind words.

Well, the Camels are progressing towards the happy end.
The fuselages got their share of wash and dirt, then the upper wings could be mounted. Now for the last sprint - rigging and engines and they should be completed.

(https://image.ibb.co/jHZsYR/camp_60.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/b1QMSm/camp_61.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/g2ac06/camp_62.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/nqLXYR/camp_63.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/bvFzDR/camp_64.jpg)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Des on November 26, 2017, 07:59:36 AM: Two gorgeous looking models, I'm looking forward to seeing the rigging added.

Des.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on November 27, 2017, 05:35:57 AM: They look terrific as biplanes! Looking forward to seeing them rigged.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Juan on November 27, 2017, 06:12:55 AM: Two beauties nearing completion, go PrzemoL go... Looking forward to your next update.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on November 29, 2017, 07:48:18 AM: The final stretch went faster than I expected. Both Camels are now completed. A few group shots here, the proper galleries in the appropriate section of this forum.
Thank you everybody for watching, leaving kind comments and supporting. Very much appreciated.

(https://image.ibb.co/htyiA6/camp_65.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/cGxMxm/camp_66.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/gtrEHm/camp_67.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/dw9OA6/camp_68.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/fGp1xm/camp_69.jpg)
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on November 29, 2017, 09:11:48 AM: As always I really enjoyed watching your processes on these beautiful Camels!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: coyotemagic on December 01, 2017, 02:25:46 AM: Two absolute beauties, Przemo! In less than 2 1/2 months you've created two masterpieces. Amazing!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on December 01, 2017, 11:02:02 PM: Thank you for the kind words, Rick and Bud.

In the matter of fact I have been working on these Camels for three months, Bud. But nevermind, I am glad they are completed now.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: coyotemagic on December 02, 2017, 03:37:24 AM: Two months, three months, what difference does it make, my friend? I would've spent all year on those two kits and still never achieve such remarkable results. Sorry, buddy. You cannot deflate my enthusiasm for these two gems!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on December 03, 2017, 08:05:50 AM: Thank you, Bud, you are very kind indeed. But you exaggerate, too. I have seen many of your models, and they are absolutely remarkable!
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: mgunns on December 03, 2017, 02:59:54 PM: Hi Prez:

I saw these on the FB site and commented accordingly there, but; seeing the effort and the step by step process, just adds to the appreciation. I have built one of these WNW Camels and they are not an easy build and you have done them both justice. The HG Watson one is especially interesting with the colorful wing markings and the squadron emblem. Not something you see on a Camel very often. Another two excellent builds for the collection and a nice Polish Companion to your Balila.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: lcarroll on December 04, 2017, 01:06:39 AM: Prze,
I just went through these and the Completed Models photos again and must comment on your superb painting results. The different "hues" of PC10 and particularly the shading you've employed combine to really take these two subjects beyond the realm of the exceptional to that of the spectacular! Very "clean" and truly inspirational finishing work, I like this pair a lot!
Cheers, and my compliments on a couple of really impressive models! 8) 8)
Lance
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: andonio64 on December 04, 2017, 03:23:24 AM: Przemol, I already said and I need to repeat it: this is a wonderful pair of Camels!

Hat off!

Antonio
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on December 04, 2017, 03:31:15 AM: Thank you, Mark, Lance and Antonio. Your kind comments are highly appreciated!
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: jeroen_R90S on December 04, 2017, 06:34:53 AM: They look great together, I like how they are both not-quite-the same colour, but still convey the overall picture. Very inspiring, though it'll take a while before I get to mine... (USAS boxing)

Jeroen
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on December 12, 2017, 10:22:13 PM: Thank you, Jeroen. Great you like them. And please, do get inspired, it is a very fine kit! Simply start it.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Manni on January 09, 2018, 09:34:54 PM: Congratulations Premyslaw!
Your Camel is chosen as best plane from WNW Staff member Richard Alexander!
Well deserved.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on January 09, 2018, 11:13:00 PM: Thank you, Manni for your kind words. It was truly a great surprise for me, IMHO there were at least two or three other great models submitted as good candidates for this honour.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: dr 1 ace on January 11, 2018, 09:36:22 AM: Again I say, Double Wonderful !

Ed
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Adam on January 20, 2018, 10:04:02 PM: Two wonderful miracles, congratulations.

Adam.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: GB on January 21, 2018, 06:48:32 AM: VERY nice work indeed 8)

Gary
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: KB on January 27, 2018, 11:57:54 AM: Outstanding Model Przemol. Great to see a New Zealander in the AFC featured. :o
Regards Keith
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on January 27, 2018, 10:03:51 PM: Many thanks, gentlemen.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 02, 2018, 08:16:12 PM: Wilson's Camel Reloaded!

When I built Taurus Models Clerget and decided to display it as a stand-alone model, I was awarded by Łukasz - he sent me the second copy. This was the sign, that I should dare to strip the Wilson's Camel off its original WNW engine and replace it.
The removal went well - I usually apply the plastic glue sparingly, mostly to avoid nasty leakages. But here it turned out with another profit - removal was really easy.
The kit firewall requires a surgery to accomodate the Taurus support. This surgery is not easy when the model is basically completed. I will have to make it a little bit ad-hoc - I scraped some plastic and will add an additional ring from this styrene sheet to cover those nasty scratches.

I am currently building the second engine, this time I also tried to observe the correct firing sequence and the layout of push rods.

(https://image.ibb.co/i4Y8OJ/camw_61.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/jgWjxd/camw_62.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/f8rHHd/camw_63.jpg)

You can see, that the WNW engine, very fine as it is, falls very short off the Taurus marvel.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on June 02, 2018, 09:13:10 PM: Your first engine was beautiful. I am sure this one will be equally as Beautiful and really look the part in your Brilliant Camel!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Ernie on June 03, 2018, 06:50:22 AM: As always, your work is breathtaking, Prze. A pleasure to watch your builds.

Cheers,
Ernie
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: andonio64 on June 03, 2018, 05:45:08 PM: Wow Przemol, every single piece you make deserves an exhibition stand!
These engines are really among the best I've ever seen!

Antonio
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 06, 2018, 07:08:10 AM: The operation Clerget is finished!

(https://image.ibb.co/h5kCa8/camw_69.jpg)

More photos in the gallery of completed builds.
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: aliluke on June 06, 2018, 07:15:50 AM: Three B's for this. Breathtaking! Brilliant! Bravo!

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on June 06, 2018, 07:16:37 AM: Beautiful! The engine looks perfect mounted on your Camel!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith F.1 Camel - HG Watson and KM Murray - double build (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: gbrivio on June 06, 2018, 11:34:45 AM: It takes bravery to dare a back build like this on an already perfect model, but this is "artist's touch" and pays off. Great engine!
Giuseppe