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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Pete Wenman on August 20, 2017, 04:54:03 AM

Title: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: Pete Wenman on August 20, 2017, 04:54:03 AM

Well at last the postman has delivered the WnW W.12 kit. I won't bother with photos of the box art and sprues as I'm pretty sure most here are more familiar with the kit than I am !

My intention is to build the kit as Christiansen's 1183 in early 1918. To this end I have the Pheon decals on order and also the CSM Gotha crew no.2 as I plan to show the aircraft as if inflight. This will then allow me to use it as a guide for oil on canvas paintings.

As Christiansen's aircraft is not explicitly provided for in the WnW kit this raises the following questions.

I can see from photo ref that 1183 had the smaller upper wing cut out, and am also pretty sure that by early 1918 the LMG14 Paraellum would have had the Oigee sight fitted, and as we all know the aircraft had the small conical spinner fitted.

Any other things I should be taking into account ? (the colour of the float sides for instance  ;) )

A rough thumbnail concept sketch
(http://i.imgur.com/3oMHkFB.jpg)

the wireframe guide to be used to create accurate outlines for paintings
(http://i.imgur.com/MNMUe6X.jpg)

first stab at naval hex colours in oils
(http://i.imgur.com/zQKDeNW.jpg)

And playing with paint, but with a long way to go (12" x 6")
(http://i.imgur.com/jvoduwr.jpg)

I'll await the arrival of the Gotha crew before diving into the cockpit, so will start with engine.
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: RAGIII on August 20, 2017, 05:15:05 AM
Really nice ! I like your Naval Hex colors! Looking forward to seeing your work on the engine!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: aliluke on August 20, 2017, 07:00:56 PM
I'd buy that painting just as it is!!!! Seriously it is a wonderful slightly abstract vision of flight.

My next build is the H-B W.12 - mainly because I have a fascination for sea planes especially the inter-war Schneinder Trophy racers. So dipping into pre-inter war history for these remarkable planes is a great place to go for me.

I look forward to your work on this flying boat.

Best, Alistair
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: Pete Wenman on August 22, 2017, 08:21:23 PM

...and some progress on the kit. I have to say that while not surprised given the accolades made in the past about WnW kits that the kit is superb. I can see my self making more of these over time.

My first attempt at woodgrain- a rather indeterminate deciduous timber !

 (http://i.imgur.com/mnQXUKh.jpg)

and various bits underway

(http://i.imgur.com/6xFjvsj.jpg)

I've a CSM Gotha crew on order, two of which I wish to fit into the kit so I'll need them to arrive before I close the fuselage halves so I can be happy they fit and how best they are installed.

P
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: RAGIII on August 22, 2017, 11:16:58 PM
Very nice wood grain. Not surprising with your Artist background  ;D Looking forward to your progress on this one!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: Juan on August 22, 2017, 11:59:03 PM
Great looking wood grain Pete.  Looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: Pete Wenman on August 25, 2017, 11:59:10 PM

CSM came up trumps with the Gotha crew turning up only 3 days after being ordered and so I've got to work on them, and getting them to fit into the W.12.

First up Christiansen, with a small bit of work so I can show him in a leather pilots coat. I think I'm going to have to fit the wheel to him before installing in the cockpit, and am also thinking I'm going to have to add him to the cockpit before I close to two halves.

(http://i.imgur.com/3gpoUX0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/gONeGa6.jpg)

P
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: Pete Wenman on August 26, 2017, 09:58:13 PM

Christiansen is now complete. Given how long it's been since I painted a figure I'm pleased with this. The control column position is a little off, but I can live with it given the delicate parts and confines of the cockpit.

(http://i.imgur.com/Ir9y1Ya.jpg)

I may dull the gloss of the leather jacket a little if the drying process does not do this of its own accord. The seat cushion has been removed from the kit part and now sees the pilot fit in nicely.

P
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: RAGIII on August 27, 2017, 06:24:33 AM
Stunning work on the figure! Looks fantastic to me!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: aliluke on August 27, 2017, 07:50:16 AM
Wonderful. His face is brilliant - a cross between determined and terrified I'd say - as you would be with one of these planes in your control.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: Pete Wenman on August 28, 2017, 01:29:08 AM

.....and work well underway on the gunner/observer.

(http://i.imgur.com/1K4APPy.jpg)

I'm showing him in long great coat, puttees, and wearing a lifevest.

(http://i.imgur.com/XbfJH9V.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/n20GdlN.jpg)

P
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: coyotemagic on August 28, 2017, 02:40:43 AM
Brilliant work on the figures and cockpit, Pete!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: Juan on August 28, 2017, 03:50:45 AM
Quote from: coyotemagic on August 28, 2017, 02:40:43 AM
Brilliant work on the figures and cockpit, Pete!
Cheers,
Bud

Agree completely, those modifications on the figures are awesome.  Looking forward to your next update
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: RAGIII on August 28, 2017, 07:19:44 AM
The observer looks to be as nicely done as the pilot as far as the conversion goes! I am looking forward to seeing him painted!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: Manni on August 28, 2017, 05:53:53 PM
Stunning work, the figure looks great. The leather looks very realistic and the face is paintet nice, too.
Manni
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: Pete Wenman on August 28, 2017, 08:34:47 PM
urm.... I might need to re think the gunner figure for the W.12, I had not appreciated quite how deep the rear cockpit is. The sitting gunner only sees his head peeking above the coaming. I'm thinking that I might need to order the CSM standing figure from the Gotha crew who should fit in well. The good news is I can carry on with the build as either figure can be installed after the fuselage halves are joined, unlike the pilot.

(http://i.imgur.com/8dRLMYW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/q0aJRge.jpg)

Thoughts ?

P
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: RUREDI on August 30, 2017, 11:03:43 AM
Always great to see pilots in the seat.  It really completes the picture for me.  Keeping an eye on your progress.  Thanks

Rick
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: Pete Wenman on September 10, 2017, 04:23:39 AM

While I pluck up courage to join the two kit fuselarge halves together I spent a little time playing with the oils and started to refine this one.

(https://i.imgur.com/adVILN8.jpg)

P
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: xmald on September 11, 2017, 03:45:34 AM
Looks great already, Pete!
You are truly an artist in both areas of expertise. I can`t wait till another update of both the model and painting.
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: Pete Wenman on September 11, 2017, 04:02:11 AM
Pretty much all the cockpit components are now ready to go, and the pilot is glued into his seat.
Aviattic naval hex and linen decals arrived during the week so I need to experiment with them.

(https://i.imgur.com/dxVdXKB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8Mtjtuo.jpg)

and a bit more on canvas.

(https://i.imgur.com/MMc9PU1.jpg)

Filip - cheers for your kind words.

P
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: coyotemagic on September 11, 2017, 04:05:23 AM
Extraordinary work, Pete, on the pilot, the plane and the painting!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: RAGIII on September 11, 2017, 05:12:21 AM
Quote from: coyotemagic on September 11, 2017, 04:05:23 AM
Extraordinary work, Pete, on the pilot, the plane and the painting!
Cheers,
Bud

As usual I agree completely with Bud! All looks exceptional!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: davec on September 11, 2017, 11:21:45 AM
Love the painting.  The model is coming along great, too.

Dave
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: Pete Wenman on October 03, 2017, 05:46:47 AM

Slow progress, but I've pretty much got the palette colours nailed, so now I just need to create form and adjust values. I'll add either a second W.12 or perhaps a ship of some sort to pay lip service to some kind of composition

(https://i.imgur.com/Uc611J5.jpg)

P
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: Pete Wenman on October 08, 2017, 06:01:15 AM

Further progress and now onto the detailing, although something about the leading edge of the upper wing is still bugging me.

(https://i.imgur.com/BZgCdzv.jpg)

P
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: Pete Wenman on October 23, 2017, 01:40:17 AM

Quite a bit has been re-worked since last time but with the exception of a couple of bracing wires, which I'll add when things are dry, I'm calling this one complete.
Hansa-Brandenburg W.12
Oil on panel
12" x 6"

(https://i.imgur.com/6qjL1Op.jpg)

This piece along with the previous Short-184 are available as a pair "Estuary Foes"

(https://i.imgur.com/q8zCUIC.jpg)

Now I must get on with the WnW W.12

P
Title: Re: Pete's all singing WnW 1/32 Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 build and other things
Post by: lone modeller on October 23, 2017, 03:05:14 AM
What a striking pair of pictures. The model and especially the figures look pretty smart too. Just wish that I could paint as well as this.

Stephen.