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Title: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Mike Norris on August 14, 2017, 06:18:36 AM
Hi all,
According to the blog linked from the Special Hobby web site, they are working on releasing a 1:32 Fokker D.II.

http://www.specialhobby.info/2017/03/

I've now seen in the 'Hannants' online store in the UK that they are waiting for the release of the 1:32 Hansa Brandenburg C1, but I can't find any information on the Special Hobby site.

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SH32007

Has anyone heard anything on this release?
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: rhwinter on August 14, 2017, 10:39:49 PM
Sorry, Sandbagger, no answer to your question, but a simple statement: I am really looking foreward to the announced Fokker D.II, and would welcome a Hansa-Brandenburg C.I (in 1:32th scale!) veeeery much, too!
So much for me!
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: rhwinter on August 14, 2017, 10:44:25 PM
It seems like the HB C.I has been announced since 2010:
https://www.largescaleplanes.com/kitdb/details.php?kit=1645

P.S. Sent an e-mail to Special Hobby, asking them for the whereabouts (whenabouts, that is) of the two kits.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Mike Norris on August 14, 2017, 10:58:24 PM
Hmmm - I've just emailed them - I'll be back.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 15, 2017, 12:12:39 AM
Special hobby has been threatening to release a hansa Brandenburg c.1 in all 3 scales for 5+ years . I'm not gonna hold my breath lol
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: rhwinter on August 16, 2017, 11:44:10 PM
Special Hobby have answered my query as follows:
1:32 Fokker D.II will be available before the end of 2017.
1:32 Brandenburg C.I will be released in 2018.
No specific dates available as for now.
I'll start saving NOW!
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Mike Norris on August 17, 2017, 12:48:33 AM
I also got a similar email from them today - guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: guitarlute101 on August 17, 2017, 12:50:53 AM
A 1/32 Brandenburg C.I would be awesome. Lots of great schemes for that one.

Mark
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: lcarroll on August 17, 2017, 03:37:47 AM
    Both Kits sound great to me, nice to see some "other" Companies producing new subjects in 1:32 Scale!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Des on August 17, 2017, 06:39:26 AM
I sent an email to special Hobby quite some time ago regarding their proposed 1:32 scale Hansa Brandenburg C.1 but never received a reply, I wrote again only last week and still no reply, I am starting to have bad vibes about the release of this kit.

Des.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Mike Norris on August 17, 2017, 07:16:20 PM
Hi Des,
Yeah - I've sent two emails to Special Hobby and only received one reply.
We can but hope.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Mike Norris on August 21, 2017, 06:54:38 PM
Hi all,
I've received an email from Special Hobby stating the Fokker D.II (SH32065) kit in 1/32 scale will be released in November.
Nothing as yet for the Hansa-Brandenberg release.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: rhwinter on August 21, 2017, 07:16:50 PM
Thank you, sandbagger!
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Des on August 21, 2017, 07:40:37 PM
I received a reply from Special Hobby, all it said was a copy of what I sent, no answer to my question, makes me wonder why they bothered to reply  ??? ??? ??? ???

Des.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: macsporran on August 21, 2017, 08:45:06 PM
I received a reply from Special Hobby, all it said was a copy of what I sent, no answer to my question, makes me wonder why they bothered to reply  ??? ??? ??? ???

Des.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Mike Norris on August 21, 2017, 11:06:59 PM
I received a reply from Special Hobby, all it said was a copy of what I sent, no answer to my question, makes me wonder why they bothered to reply  ??? ??? ??? ???

Des.

Hi Des,
I had a similar email from them with large blue coloured areas, but their answer was at the top in small text.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Des on August 22, 2017, 07:32:57 AM
I received another email this time with an answer to my question, this is what Special Hobby has said;

I am sorry. 1/32 Hansa Brandenburg C.I project sleep now. But we are working on 1/32 scale Fokker D.II kit. It will be ready this autumn.

Best regard
A. Riedel
Special Hobby

Des.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: RAGIII on August 22, 2017, 07:55:47 AM
Too bad about the HB but glad to hear the Fokker is due in the Autumn!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 22, 2017, 12:26:15 PM
thats what i feared regarding the hansa c.1 that has been shrugged off by them many years ago. sometimes places like hannants will say such and such tba and its on stuff long forgotten by the company....unfortunately
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: rhwinter on August 22, 2017, 02:54:35 PM
Oh, what a pity! I must admit that I found it a little suspicious, when I received the answer from their sales manager THAT quickly. Well, quick customer service is so important, these days...
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Mike Norris on August 22, 2017, 09:13:15 PM
Aaah well, at least the Fokker is due soon, to add to my stash of 48 models in 1:32 scale I've yet to build!!
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Juan on August 22, 2017, 10:18:15 PM
Sad to hear about the C.I, glad to about the D.II.  Keeping fingers crossed for both eventually.   ;) ;D
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 23, 2017, 08:57:41 PM
We must remember guys we are a fringe of a niche in a small hobby that's dwindling. Experts have estimated only 10 to 20,000 ww1 aircraft modelers worldwide we should thank the stars anyone makes products for us at all.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: rhwinter on August 23, 2017, 10:38:14 PM
We must remember guys we are a fringe of a niche in a small hobby that's dwindling. Experts have estimated only 10 to 20,000 ww1 aircraft modelers worldwide we should thank the stars anyone makes products for us at all.

*SIGH*
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: certainreasons on August 29, 2017, 11:31:15 AM
Haven't thought this through, but I had to think of the board wargame community and their pledges to ensure work on a planned release - any chance of something like that for the H-B? How many kits do they need to sell to make the production profitable for them? I ready with my credit card...
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Jeff K on August 29, 2017, 12:57:24 PM
If someone gets SH to agree to it, I'll pledge for a HBO C.I
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: TobyCoulson on November 30, 2017, 10:50:06 AM
Has the Fokker D.II been released yet?
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: rhwinter on November 30, 2017, 05:20:33 PM
No, not yet. Have a look at their FB site, that's where Special Hobby usually post their news.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Borsos on December 01, 2017, 03:20:55 AM
I had sent them a Mail and they replied they were planning to release it in December.
Andreas
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on December 05, 2017, 11:28:14 AM
Guys I was where you are over a decade ago when I got back into modeling.  I was excited every time I heard someone had a new kit in the works. I remember back in 2007 or 2008 when I heard special hobby was working hard on the hansa c.1 in all 3 scales. After that they were gonna do a new Lloyd wkf with a resin engine etc. Eduard was supposed to release this and that one that caught my attention was a halberstadt d.v but alas that didn't materialize either.blah blah blah heard it so.many times. This is all before wnw even released their first 4 in 2009 and destroyed any other scales chance to get much of anything new.  My point is what I said above months ago. We are too few . It cost 10s of thousands of dollars to make an injection mold. In most cases it's a labor of love. Now that even copper state has closed It's section on our forum I fear for the future of 1/48.It's just guys like us that are into a this plane or that that can trick an investor to back them and get it done occasionally. Think about it ... we arent worth it thats why gaspatch released one kit. The salmson.before that it was mirage with the halberstadt cl ii which it used most of the parts from to make the cl. Iv. Befor that karaya did 1 im kit and they were done. Tbh im surprized copper state did 3.but with news they are gonna try 1/32 now means they have overstock. Im to the point where I don't really pay any mind to rumor that this or that is being worked on by whoever. I've been disappointed wwaaaayyy to many times. Plastic modelling is rapidly dwindling. There is no interest from anyone hardly under 40. Aircraft is a segment if this hobby. Which it seemed to me 1/35 armor is more popular than. And we are the red headed step child of the aircraft niche. Ww2 craft are far far more profitable and so are jets. Biplane fans are few and far between.  I am a member of a club in the new Orleans area. We sponsor a conyest each year . More times than not I was the only person to even enter a biplane. A few times there were one or 2 other entries . And the last 4 years there's been at least one or 2 wnw  model entered. I hate to be a downer but we have been forsaken. Basically there's wingnut wings doing biplane kits. Once in a blue moon another company may but prob won't release something else.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: mgunns on December 05, 2017, 01:34:33 PM
We must remember guys we are a fringe of a niche in a small hobby that's dwindling. Experts have estimated only 10 to 20,000 ww1 aircraft modelers worldwide we should thank the stars anyone makes products for us at all.
What Experts?
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Dave W on December 05, 2017, 01:57:27 PM
Actually I'd be surprised if we had 20,000 WW1 modellers worldwide. Despite the WW1 Centennials etc, the further away from those events we get, the less appeal they seem to have with new blood modellers. Despite doomsayers, plastic modelling continues to thrive but I know some brilliant world class modellers who flat out refuse to touch a WW1 subject. Top wings! Rigging! They flee at the mere mention of such things.

Aircraft Kit manufacturers generally shy away from WW1 so we are fortunate companies like Wingnuts, Special Hobby, Copper State and Eduard still give us new kits while Roden and others keep the back catalogue stocked. We are well supported in this niche but sadly it's unlikely to ever be more than a niche now.

That said my poor little Paypal account is doing its best to support the manufacturers who support us.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: rayb24 on December 05, 2017, 02:31:24 PM
Despite some of the doom and gloom, I’m pretty hopeful and happy with what I see. I can remember when the only games in town was Meikroft, Veejay, Pegasus, Blue Max, Skybirds, and Edward were just releasing the first of there 1/48th. I think it was the original Schuckert. None of these models was easy to build and some were unbuildable unless you were willing to scratchbuild a large percentage of the model...  Veeday and Meikroft being my pet hates..Back then I also heard the same “models are dead” . But since the 2000’s it’s been a golden age. I have resin and vac forms that I probably won’t build because they have been superseded by much better models. No ww1 model is shake and bake but so many are light years ahead of what existed 20 years ago, that a decent result is guaranteed.. Even if no more come out we probably have enough to work on for many many years.

Just my opinion... Ray
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on December 09, 2017, 04:13:08 AM
Back when I was a member of the aerodrome forum ,along with some other members here such as des ,coyotemagic and ragiii as well as others around 2007ish it was being called the golden age of ww1 aircraft modelling by guys in the industry such as Stephen Lawson who is the administrator at aeroscale. There were discussions about estimated amounts of ww1 modelers worldwide and other industry members whom i cannot recall at this moment . By this I mean guys who have been life long ww1 aircraft modelers as well as  company owners and writers of ww1 aircraft books such as Alex revell were members back then.. im going by their data and was s participant in these discussions. We are definitely a tiny group of enthusists.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1
Post by: rayb24 on December 09, 2017, 01:07:50 PM
Nowadays niche groups can be quite profitable... we have always been small. Now of course we are small even within a small group. Some manufacturers though have figured out though that if you think the model engineering through so that there is a good chance of completion by most modellers then people do want to build wwi, I mean wwi aircraft are so elegant looking... 
Eduard figured this out first around the time of the first Albatros DV/a then Toko/Roden.. those models took effort but are wonderfull when completed.. I wonder how many though get bought but stored. WNW’s figured out how to manufacture well thought out models.. They raised the bar as it were. The problem with that is the average modeller looking at a Special Hobby Bristol M1c knows all Special Hobby models take effort wwi or kero burners and rigged wwi more so. Therefore they don’t buy so Special  Hobby then move on to other subjects and the HB C1 doesn’t come out, but they fail to see that they need to up there engineering make them a reasonable project... There are people who would buy...  btw no critique of Special Hobby, just that even limited run has improved light years. Look at CSM...

Ray

Ray - building a Special Hobby N11
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: RLWP on December 09, 2017, 09:02:05 PM
Back when I was a member of the aerodrome forum ,along with some other members here such as des ,coyotemagic and ragiii as well as others

Me, for instance

Richard
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: hiddeous1973 on December 09, 2017, 10:29:47 PM
Still, there are differances with today's 'golden age' and back then when there were fewer options.
I don't think there are many manufactures that go way outside the box and play it more or less safe.
The Taube is evidence that not all hope is lost, but some of those resin and vac kits that were made then and impossible to find now a days were unique models.
Kits made by CSM and others are models I would love to have, exotic and very buildable, even with my limited skills.
Even tough the kits coming out these days are (much) better then those efforts, some of them will never been seen as kits I fear.

I really wish i bought some of then then when they were availlable (and affordable...)
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: janh on December 10, 2017, 09:07:08 PM
The approach is near: the instructions are available on their internetpages:
https://www.specialhobby.eu/out/ftp/media/100-SH32065.pdf
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: lcarroll on December 10, 2017, 11:09:16 PM
Quote from Dave W.   " I know some brilliant world class modellers who flat out refuse to touch a WW1 subject. Top wings! Rigging! They flee at the mere mention of such things."

   I joined the small local IPMS Chapter Club a year or so ago and took my "Fee" to display at a meeting at the member's request. After complimenting me on my work a very highly regarded Armor Modeller told me I had to be "crazy to build something like that"! The rigging was something he stated would drive him insane......... Like many here it's usually my favorite part of the Build.
To each his own I guess! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: rayb24 on December 10, 2017, 11:26:36 PM
Looking at the instructions for the DII, it would seem Special Hobby have put much more detail and thought in the instructions around placement of parts and rigging in comparison to there earlier Nieuport... this will be an interesting model I think
Ray
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Juan on December 10, 2017, 11:43:42 PM
The approach is near: the instructions are available on their internetpages:
https://www.specialhobby.eu/out/ftp/media/100-SH32065.pdf

Thanks Janh
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Mike Norris on January 10, 2018, 09:37:23 PM
Hi all,
I've seen a few posts from various modelers who have received their Fokker D.II kits, so it seems they are now out on the streets.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: rhwinter on January 10, 2018, 09:55:02 PM
Hi all,
I've seen a few posts from various modelers who have received their Fokker D.II kits, so it seems they are now out on the streets.

Question remains: On which streets?
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: RLWP on January 10, 2018, 10:36:54 PM
Hi all,
I've seen a few posts from various modelers who have received their Fokker D.II kits, so it seems they are now out on the streets.

Question remains: On which streets?

How about right here?: https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9180.0

Richard
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: rhwinter on January 11, 2018, 01:23:06 AM
Hi all,
I've seen a few posts from various modelers who have received their Fokker D.II kits, so it seems they are now out on the streets.

Question remains: On which streets?

How about right here?: https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9180.0

Richard

So it‘s Hannants and perhaps Special Hobby. At least that‘s what I understand from that thread, Richard.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Mike Norris on January 11, 2018, 02:36:56 AM
I've had one on back order with Hannant's since it was first announced last year.  I've not yet received confirmation that the kit is now in stock, but presumably if 'Boros' has received his kit, then SH must be shipping them now.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: TobyCoulson on January 13, 2018, 08:44:04 PM
I've had one on back order with Hannant's since it was first announced last year.  I've not yet received confirmation that the kit is now in stock, but presumably if 'Boros' has received his kit, then SH must be shipping them now.
Likewise.
Just checked on new arrivals and it's not there, just on future releases.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Mike Norris on January 21, 2018, 04:00:25 AM
Just received Hannant's email - The Fokker D.II is in stock for back orders, so presumably they are available now.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: TobyCoulson on January 21, 2018, 05:04:23 AM
Just received Hannant's email - The Fokker D.II is in stock for back orders, so presumably they are available now.
Just got my confirmation from them as well. Should get it by the end of the week going by previous experience with their back order system.
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: RAGIII on January 21, 2018, 09:13:34 AM
I am waiting to see if Sprue Brothers gets it in stock. Should be cheaper than ordering direct.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Rob_Owens on January 23, 2018, 12:06:58 AM
Roll Models has the D.II in stock today!!
Title: Re: Special Hobby - Fokker D.II or Hansa Brandeburg C1?
Post by: Mike Norris on January 27, 2018, 08:40:11 AM
Mine arrived today from Hannant's  ;D