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Title: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on July 21, 2017, 07:37:21 AM
      This model will be finished in the scheme depicted on the box art, a 46 Squadron aircraft flown by Canadian 54 Victory Ace Major Donald R. Maclaren for his last 9 kills. It is notable that MacLaren achieved his 54 Official Victories in just 7 months of combat flying as a member of 46 Squadron on the Western Front. I had the honour of meeting this Gentleman and conversing briefly with him in 1983 at a formal military function, an experience I will always treasure! A modest and soft spoken man so humble in representing his heroic war service, I will always remember him as a great representative of a generation of similar young heroes who went off to a terrible war never doubting nor questioning the call to duty, and I sincerely extend that compliment to those of both sides of the conflict.
      First, the Box Art....

(http://i.imgur.com/wavuXck.jpg)

     The obligatory "sprue shot".....

(http://i.imgur.com/j6gLHye.jpg)

.....and last the excellent reference publications I've managed to gather up:

(http://i.imgur.com/UrTKJLK.jpg)

    To this point I've cleaned up the cockpit components and will begin the painting and detailing over the next several days. It looks like an excellent Kit thus far, up to Wingnut's normal stellar quality, and I'm looking forward to the Build.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: coyotemagic on July 21, 2017, 08:04:00 AM
I excited at the thought of following your progress through this project, Lance.  I know it will be up to your usual very high standards.  I intend to do MacLaren's bus myself, only in 1/48 scale.  I'm looking forward to seeing how you will approach the prominent oil erosion of the dope on the port side of the fuselage.  I plan on using my shaving cream trick on mine.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: RAGIII on July 21, 2017, 08:10:00 AM
I am looking forward to your build. Like Bud said I am sure it will be up to your usual very High standards! Funny thing here, I actually pulled out my Clerget Camel about an hour ago thinking about making it my next build  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on July 21, 2017, 12:43:26 PM
Bud,
   Your shaving cream is my hair spray............amazing as both techniques have proved! Rick, go for it; I'm amazed that after all off the hype and anticipation we've seen so little in the way of Camel Builds. Time to "open the sluices at both ends" as Monty Python put it! Looks like another winner from Richard, Sir Peter, and the rest of the Staff at Wingnuts!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Des on July 21, 2017, 01:02:18 PM
Looking forward to following along with your build Lance, I'm sure that this will be another winner.

Des.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: mgunns on July 21, 2017, 01:35:12 PM
I too am looking forward to this Lance.  As someone used to say:  "Model on!"
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 21, 2017, 04:19:04 PM
Brillant, Lance  ;)

A feel a Canadian themed Group Build coming on  :)

Von CanuckFan
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Juan on July 21, 2017, 09:01:13 PM
Great choice Lance, nice tribute too.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on July 21, 2017, 10:12:21 PM
   Thanks for the encouragement Gents! Your comments are very much appreciated.
   von Canuck Fan,
   The Canadian Group Build may be in the works if only at my bench; I have the Clerget Version which is destined to be done as Barker's B 6313, and another in the Duellist's Set that would look good in Alexander's Naval 10 stripes, and maybe there's room for a Bentley Version to honour Roy Brown, and then, and then.................. ::)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on July 22, 2017, 12:06:51 AM
     So, first step on the Build, and I discover the Barracuda Resin wicker seat I was going to use is much wider then the Kit seat. In fact the kit seat internal width is 11.5 mm which scales out at 14.5 inches...............very small bottomed Pilots only! The Barracuda seat is, at minimum, 13.5 mm wide (inside) which scales out to a standard chair width.
     We've had this discussion and, I thought, solved the mystery before:

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=6633.msg122026#msg122026

    On previous Kits the seats were larger then the Barracuda ones, now the reverse appears to be the case. I'd really prefer the Barracuda seat, the "open" wicker around the back piece really sets it off, it's a magnificent bit of molding however, given the tight cockpit, I don't want to generate any fit problems by replacing the Kit seat. Here's a couple of comparison shots, the white seat being the resin Barracuda version. As you can see there is quite a difference in width.........

(http://i.imgur.com/OVEPmpY.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/UkjsAjt.jpg)
     Has anyone completed the cockpit and can verify that the wider seat would fit for sure? My efforts at "dry fitting" have proven inconclusive........ :-\

Cheers,
Lance
   
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Gisbod on July 22, 2017, 05:14:48 PM
Nice one Lance,

I used the Barracuda seat with no issues..

Guy
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on July 22, 2017, 11:03:37 PM
Nice one Lance,

I used the Barracuda seat with no issues..

Guy

   Thanks for that Guy. I figured the Barracuda version would work by the fit of it to the frame and floor board part, the width appeared "just OK". I'll plan to use it in lieu of the Kit version then.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: petrov27 on July 23, 2017, 12:03:14 AM
I was able to use the barracuda seat in my build - pics still seem to work though I closed my Photobucket account:

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=8181.msg157072#msg157072
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: RAGIII on July 23, 2017, 02:54:26 AM
I was able to use the barracuda seat in my build - pics still seem to work though I closed my Photobucket account:

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=8181.msg157072#msg157072

I hope Lance doesn't mind my asking about the seat. Did you cut away the Molded on cushion or remove the bottom from the Barracuda seat?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: nichenson on July 23, 2017, 03:30:41 AM
Barracuda is coming out with a new seat just for the Camel with pads.

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20248015_10212129670694204_717424462791605963_o.jpg?oh=9b7410c72bdc5607eb4875e4995eaabd&oe=5A063E49)
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: petrov27 on July 23, 2017, 05:25:54 AM
I was able to use the barracuda seat in my build - pics still seem to work though I closed my Photobucket account:

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=8181.msg157072#msg157072

I hope Lance doesn't mind my asking about the seat. Did you cut away the Molded on cushion or remove the bottom from the Barracuda seat?
RAGIII

I removed the molded on seat bottom all the way down till just the two wood cross-members were left.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on July 23, 2017, 08:47:40 AM
Ask away, Rick, this is all good information as I missed Petrov's Build earlier. I like the photo of the new Barracuda Seat and cushions as well. I was going to place an order for a couple more of their seats however I think I'll wait for this new release.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: jknaus on July 25, 2017, 03:56:40 AM
Watching with interest LAnce. Cant wait to see what you do with it :)
James
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Iancshippee on July 25, 2017, 10:31:58 AM
That seat with pads looks fantastic! Looking forward to this build, Lance! I have the USAS version waiting its turn in the stash.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on July 25, 2017, 11:22:18 PM
   Thanks for looking and commenting, James and Ian. I've cut the seat supports out of the floor frame assembly and managed to salvage the cushion which fits nicely into the Barracuda seat with a little modification. The proposed Barracuda Camel seat with separate cushions looks very nice but of course hasn't been released yet. I'll get some photos done once the assembly is all together.
   I'm discovering that the "fit" of this Kit is as good or better then the rest of the Wingnut Wing product line, a real joy to work with.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: RAGIII on July 26, 2017, 12:18:44 AM
Ask away, Rick, this is all good information as I missed Petrov's Build earlier. I like the photo of the new Barracuda Seat and cushions as well. I was going to place an order for a couple more of their seats however I think I'll wait for this new release.
Cheers,
Lance

Yes, they look great! I think I will wait to start mine until I can get the new seats!
RAGIII

PS: So Maybe another SE5a first  8)
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on July 26, 2017, 05:01:23 AM
   I just went back and checked the photos of the new seat; it appears that the "X" mesh strip around the middle back is filled in or has solid flash unlike the ones from the previous releases which were more or less open or flash free. On the good side those cushions are really nicely done!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: petrov27 on July 26, 2017, 06:22:31 AM
both of the "old" barracuda seats I got for my Camel build were so badly flashed over in the middle part they may not even have bothered with that on the new seats. I destroyed one seat trying to remove the flash and damaged the 2nd one doing the same. Was pretty frustrating - I assume the moulds were old or getting worn out....
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on July 26, 2017, 08:13:31 AM
both of the "old" barracuda seats I got for my Camel build were so badly flashed over in the middle part they may not even have bothered with that on the new seats. I destroyed one seat trying to remove the flash and damaged the 2nd one doing the same. Was pretty frustrating - I assume the moulds were old or getting worn out....

     Yes, we went over this in the past, the early releases seemed to be much better. I got two of the Pairs sets with the high and low backs and they are near perfect. A few years down the road the same sets were fully plugged with flash along that band. It's too bad as those early releases were as good resin work as I've ever seen.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: mgunns on July 27, 2017, 02:22:41 AM
I ordered two of the Barracuda seats for my upcoming proposed Camel Builds.  Looking forward to see them, hopefully they aren't junk.  :o
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lone modeller on July 27, 2017, 04:43:15 AM
I have only just found this Lance.... Great subject and it seems a great kit too. I am really looking forward to seeing this being built in your more than capable hands - another winner in the making.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on July 27, 2017, 07:40:35 AM
Thanks Stephen, it is indeed a very nicely laid out Kit. Mark, which seat set did you order?  I'd be very interested in your assessment of them as well.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: mgunns on July 27, 2017, 01:01:53 PM
Hi Lance:  I ordered the ones that you have.  I scoped out their website based on the evidence that you had in your photo.  I will let you know what I think of them when I get them.  Rowan has/had a nice wicker one too IIRC.  We shall see.  I am betting it is better than "Brand X!"
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on August 07, 2017, 07:04:43 AM
    Progress has been very slow however the cockpit module is nearing completion. The seat and Gas Tank frame still needs a little more work; the leather coaming on the seat back needs to be filled in to cover the wicker pattern and then the HGW belts will be added.

(http://i.imgur.com/h3IkFdk.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/rQGozY8.jpg)


   The instrument panel and floor boards with the control column are attached to the left side frame. The panel was completed with the addition of Aeroclub instrument bezels and the details of the side frame including Modelkasten bracing wires was completed before assembly. At this point the flight control cables were added and painted with Mr Metal Color Stainless. The rigging of the wires was a bit "fiddley"; they will be anchored once the module is fully assembled.

(http://i.imgur.com/TBL96yX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/zd4Q1eh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/oYmzOpz.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/C3M8ALG.jpg)

  Once the seat is completed and the belts on it too will be mounted to the side frame, then the right frame married to the assembly. Wish me luck getting everything to line up and tightly together! Once it's all in one piece I'll provide photos of it, or the entire model parked on the shelf of shame if it doesn't line up or fit into the fuselage :o!

Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: RAGIII on August 07, 2017, 07:32:11 AM
Absolutely Gorgeous work Lance! The IP, cockpit sides and details, and the seat are magnificent!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Juan on August 07, 2017, 07:39:58 AM
Beauty Lance, no way I can see this gem going to the shelf of shame.  All the best in your alignment quest.   ;)
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on August 07, 2017, 07:44:18 AM
Thank you Rick and Juan for your most welcome comments! More to follow once I cobble this mess together!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: boggie on August 07, 2017, 08:24:51 AM
More to follow once I cobble this mess together!
Cheers,
Lance

And a very nice mess it is too Lance!  ;D

Looks great!

More please.  :)

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: bobs_buckles on August 07, 2017, 04:19:32 PM
You're like a fine wine, Lance....You keep getting better and better.
Well done!

vB  :)
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on August 07, 2017, 10:42:14 PM
Boggie, vB,
   Thank you for your encouragement, now that I've slept on the next steps I'll see how the plan comes together in the stark light of a new day!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: ondra on August 08, 2017, 01:57:59 AM
Very nice progress so far, Lance, good job!

Mac Laren's Camel is on my 'to build' list, so I will be following this one with great excitement.

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on August 08, 2017, 04:41:42 AM
Many Thanks Ondra, coming from a true master it means a great deal to me! :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: mgunns on August 08, 2017, 01:27:32 PM
That's some outstanding work there Lance.  The rudder control wires looks pretty complicated and you got it down all tidy and neat.  Instrument panel is a jewel.I wouldn't worry about it being a shelf of doom denizen, this will a jewel in the crown.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: xmald on August 08, 2017, 01:51:15 PM
Superb modelling as always Lance!the instrument panel is simply beautiful!
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on August 11, 2017, 07:13:21 AM
Mark, Filip,
   Thank you both for your comments, I just finished up the cockpit module so photos to follow.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on August 11, 2017, 07:30:48 AM
   The cockpit section is complete with one very minor addition required. It fits the fuselage, albeit "just", a very tight fit as always with a Wingnut Kit.
    Before final assembly I had to deal with the three cabane eyelet rigging attatchments I'd broken while drilling them to clean them up a bit. One was repaired with thick CA, the other two were removed and replaced with Bob's Buckles copper eyelets using a #83 drill bit and CA.

(http://i.imgur.com/y73Zal7.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/hxrxmdQ.jpg)

    Next came the seat and fuel tank frame with the recently added HGW Belts:

(http://i.imgur.com/MyfTN8k.jpg)

    After running the starboard aileron wire through the right frame member the side was attatched, a delicate little task to get it all lined up! The ugly seam line along the top of the fuel tank that I missed will thankfully be covered once she's closed up.

(http://i.imgur.com/LR85x1w.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/t1WN8n5.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/zmQg8LL.jpg)

   ...... and a final shot showing the fuel line that needs to be extended aft before it's closed in:

(http://i.imgur.com/WbWb0V2.jpg)

    This ones been placed to the back of the assembly line now as I tackle the completion of my Mikr Mir Fokker D.VIII / E.V.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: mgunns on August 11, 2017, 07:36:12 AM
Looks good Lance.  The instrument panel is a real show stopper.  The HGW seat belts look the part.  I can't seem to get those pesky things to work right, yours look the business.  Looking forward to seeing your progress on the DVIII/EV as Model Mania runs wild at the Manor Caroll.   8)

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on August 11, 2017, 07:41:48 AM
Wow Mark, you must be sitting at your monitor, that was quick! Thanks for looking and commenting. As we discussed earlier it is indeed "madness"!! :o ::)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: RAGIII on August 11, 2017, 10:39:52 AM
Your cockpit came together in a spectacular manner Lance! Seat, belts, instrument panel are all gorgeous!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Juan on August 11, 2017, 12:26:19 PM
Great stuff here Lance, my money was on you "getting her done".  Looking forward to your progress on your projects.   8)
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: ondra on August 11, 2017, 10:44:17 PM
Great job, Lance, looking at the pictures of your progress it is pretty clear now what my next build will be. :) Highly inspirational, thanks for sharing!

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: jknaus on August 11, 2017, 11:49:34 PM
Beautiful pit there Lance. Man you are inspiring to watch. I'm really finding it hard to finish the modern stuff I'm doing for work, I'd rather be following your lead and building one of these beauts.
James
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on August 12, 2017, 12:04:38 AM
    Many Thanks Rick, Juan, Ondra, and James for your generous comments. It is a very nice Kit however I wouldn't recommend it to a novice! There's so much of the cockpit detail that disappears when the fuselage is closed, what is it we all say? At least I know it's in there...  Once I get back to it I hope the pace of the Build increases or my ambitions to do the other versions and perhaps a Comic may start to soften a bit!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: coyotemagic on August 12, 2017, 12:51:16 AM
Spectacular work on the office, Lance!  That instrument panel is especially eye catching.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: dr 1 ace on August 12, 2017, 01:42:31 AM
Spectacular work on the office, Lance!  That instrument panel is especially eye catching.
Cheers,
Bud


Ditto my Amigo's comments !

Ed
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lone modeller on August 12, 2017, 04:26:44 AM
Those instruments look real! The rest of the cockpit is something to die for too. Excellent modelling Lance - a show stopper indeed.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on August 12, 2017, 05:30:54 AM
Bud, Ed, and Stephen,
   Thanks for your positive votes Guys, means a lot!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Nigel Jackson on August 12, 2017, 05:40:21 AM
This is just looking gorgeous, Lance. I think the instrument panel, in particular, is really top quality. I've enough on my plate without you making me want a WNW Camel!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Des on August 12, 2017, 06:45:39 AM
Superb job with the cockpit interior Lance, the wood colours are excellent and the instrument panel is one of the best I have seen.

Des.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on August 12, 2017, 12:32:29 PM
Thanks Nigel and Des. That panel has several or more AeroClub bezels from your generous support, Des!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: PrzemoL on August 14, 2017, 07:01:40 AM
Lovely work on the interior, Lance.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on September 16, 2017, 10:11:23 PM
    A belated Thank You for your comment, Prze. I completed the Mikr Mir E.V / D.VIII yesterday so once I do the Completed Models entry on it I'll be digging this one out and deciding where to restart this Build. I'm really looking forward to a bit of smooth sailing after dealing with the "Razor"! ::)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on September 16, 2017, 11:36:22 PM
     I noticed coming back to this Thread today that I hadn't included the arrival of the Barracuda wicker seats we had been discussing here. Although too late for this Build the seats I ordered arrived in perfect condition and they are up to or better then the quality of the earlier generic wicker seats from this company. The open weave strip across the back is 99% flash free and the quality of the molding is superb.

(https://i.imgur.com/7mDKBld.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kU7aE4H.jpg)

    I have three sets on hand now to add to future Camel Builds.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Pete Wenman on September 16, 2017, 11:48:21 PM

Great work on the cockpit there !!!

P
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on October 23, 2017, 01:15:42 AM
   After an extended break to finish the Fokker D.VIII, a trip east to meet up with four friends and attend the IPMS Ottawa CapCon Show, and a two week struggle with a totally failed computer I'm back on line and  working on this project again. Since last posting I've closed up the fuselage, finished a number of components, and started the painting.
   The fuselage went together reasonably well, no seam to fill on top and only minor filling required on the underside. As you can see in the photo I've managed to knock off two of the cabanes in the process; I'll leave them to repair once the fuselage is completely finished.

(https://i.imgur.com/8O6YMlm.jpg)

    The Kit LeRhone has been completed using Alclad metal colours. I added the ignition wires on the back side and stayed with the Kit push rods as they are more or less invisible behind the engine once in the cowling. The dog hair at the 10 oclock position has since been returned to it's owner!

(https://i.imgur.com/6x3qaeg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/C27eKKL.jpg)

    I read somewhere here that the LeRhone had steel exhaust pipes, the Oberursel version copper thus the all silver assembly.

    Some of the other components completed and awaiting installation. As you can see on the cowling "Wonder Dog" is insisting on adding bits of his DNA to this project!

(https://i.imgur.com/LvuppkB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rRL0YHq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4ATMTMQ.jpg)

   Following the Kit Instructions I elected to finish the bottom wing and empanage next for assembly to the fuselage before tackling the upper wing. The under surfaces were done with a 50/50 mix of Humbrol Linen #74 and Model Master #2709 Light Ivory. After poring over the References I concluded that the only rule concerning "wrap over" of the PC.10 upper colour was there is no rule! Photos show none, a very narrow wrap over on all edges and some with only the leading edge of the wing with the feature. The profiles in the instruction booklet are hard to interpret but seem to show only the leading edge option. I finally elected to follow the Windsock Data File statement of "a 1-2 inch wrap over on all edge surfaces on flying and control surfaces". I masked them using Tamiya's newer Masking Tape for Curves and I am very impressed with the product. It bends amazingly, goes down well, and did not lift any paint when removed; I highly recommend this stuff!
   Here's a couple of photos that illustrate the flexibility of the tape and the results once completed.

(https://i.imgur.com/c8WSxzg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KlZnKOr.jpg)

    Last item on this update is weathering; this particular aircraft was subject to an inordinate amount of weathering and paint peeling as is shown in the Kit's Profile D. The photo below from the Canadian Aviation and Space Museum shows MacLaren in the aircraft in an even more weathered state.

(https://i.imgur.com/x7WFwdx.jpg)

    I am using the "Hairspray" method to replicate this appearance. This requires careful masking and painting of the three different material base coats first; front to back natural aluminum, what I see as PC10 over wood, and CDL from the cockpit aft. The decals will present yet another challenge as the aircraft's marking appear damaged as well in the Reference photos.
 Here's my progress thus far, the PC.10 below the cockpit has been given a coat of hairspray and will be sprayed Battleship Grey next before "chipping".

(https://i.imgur.com/yYV7LWX.jpg)

     That's progress until today, I hope to get the fuselage completed to the stage where I can apply the markings in the next several sessions.

Cheers,
Lance

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lone modeller on October 23, 2017, 03:02:14 AM
Good to see you back on this one Lance. The weathering looks very good - mind you the original looks as though it had been through the mill a few times!  Will continue to follow with interest.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on October 23, 2017, 03:12:06 AM
   Thanks Stephen, the aircraft certainly does look as though it's been "through the wringer" just a few times! It is nice to be back, I am amazed at the impact of losing my computer had, we've become so reliable on these evil machines!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Juan on October 23, 2017, 05:01:49 AM
Looking great Lance.  I think your dog is related to Snoopy and paying homage to his relative's legendary battle with the Red Baron, LOL.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on October 23, 2017, 12:00:45 PM
Juan,
    I agree, the similarities are intuitively obvious!! ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/o3bP7Nv.jpg)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Juan on October 23, 2017, 12:04:23 PM
You've got a pair of beauties there Lance.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: mgunns on October 23, 2017, 01:16:26 PM
The weathering looks spot on Lance.  Hopefully you can get those other two cabane struts on and move on to other areas.  The flext tape looks good.  I didn't do this to mine as the instructions for the decal placement doesn't really show the overlap for the USAS version.  The snow and the dog look terribly cold and too early for that stuff.  I will take my Arizona warmth.  One of our Calgary guys is down now for the winter.
Looking forward to the next update.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Manni on October 23, 2017, 11:07:59 PM
Great work, Lance. The chipped colour looks great. Right my kind of stuff.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: PrzemoL on October 23, 2017, 11:22:42 PM
Watching with great interest, Lance. Fine progress. My pair of Camels just reaches the airbrushing stage and I will try to follow your steps.
One thing made me wonder, the colour of intake manifolds for the Le Rhone engine. I was always imprinted with them being copper. May I ask, where did you find that info about steel?
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on October 23, 2017, 11:24:59 PM
   Thanks for the positive comments, Guys. Mark, the photo of "Wonder Dog" was actually taken a few winters back about this time of year. Presently we are without snow and still enjoying reasonably warm weather for this time of year however I have a feeling we'll pay for our pleasures in the end! :-\
   As I indicated earlier the wrap around of the PC.10 is hard to read on the Kit Profiles. I normally take the info in the Windsock Data Files as the final word thus my version here could be one of many methinks! Given the large number of contractors that produced Camels (I counted 12 in the Chaz Boyer book!) I believe different "standards" were probably inevitable. I'd welcome more info on this topic from Members here.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on October 23, 2017, 11:39:24 PM
Watching with great interest, Lance. Fine progress. My pair of Camels just reaches the airbrushing stage and I will try to follow your steps.
One thing made me wonder, the colour of intake manifolds for the Le Rhone engine. I was always imprinted with them being copper. May I ask, where did you find that info about steel?

Prze,
    I wish I could remember exactly where the comment came from. I noted it when I was working on the Mikr Mir D.VIII and wrote it down as ""Oberursel's version of the LeRhone (Oberursel Ur. II) had copper exhaust pipes, the LeRhone's were steel" I believe I got it here, probably in an engine article? I followed it on the D.VIII Build and now on this one.
Please let me know if you find it or different information.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: PrzemoL on October 23, 2017, 11:50:03 PM
Lance, I have just made a quick Google search for Le Rhone engines photos. I have to say that all I found were copper intake manifolds. I cannot make up the differenc between 9C and 9J versions, maybe what was installed on Camels was different but there is even the WNW instructions calling for copper. That is why I asked you for the source. Anyway - great progress on your model!
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on October 24, 2017, 12:10:05 AM
Lance, I have just made a quick Google search for Le Rhone engines photos. I have to say that all I found were copper intake manifolds. I cannot make up the differenc between 9C and 9J versions, maybe what was installed on Camels was different but there is even the WNW instructions calling for copper. That is why I asked you for the source. Anyway - great progress on your model!

    Thanks Prze, and I found the reference comments here:

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=8522.0

   Given the comment quoted from Kohlman M. I'd say one couldn't be too far off with copper on the Oberursel, steel on the LeRhone or, apparently, the opposite!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: RAGIII on October 24, 2017, 12:14:25 AM
Lance,
Awesome work on the weathering to date! Your results are spot on!! The Tamiya curvy tape worked well. I am glad to see that as I picked up several rolls in varying widths recently  ;D I am as always looking forward to your progress!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: PrzemoL on October 24, 2017, 12:17:59 AM
Thanks, Lance for the link. So, IMHO it seems the question is if copper was still available. I would say Germans suffered from lack of resources and might have replaced copper with more commonly available steel. But French? Less probable, but you never know. Anyway, WNW seem to depict the early curved pipes which, seemingly, were the original copper ones. Nevermind, I am sorry for the interruption. Keep up with great modelling!
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 24, 2017, 01:17:27 AM
Great update, Lance  ;)

Nice Dog, shame about the snow!  :o

Cheers,
bvB
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on October 24, 2017, 02:12:20 AM
     Thanks Rick!
     Looks like another question with no one answer Prze. As you say the availability of copper is the key issue, and I agree that the French would have been somewhat less likely to feel the effects then Germany. No interruption BTW, I really enjoy discussions like this, and learn so much!
    von B, as I said that snow is from a few years back. We are still doing fairly well here in the "Great White North". As for "Wonder Dog", we call him that because he is a very talented little fellow; climbs ladders, opens cupboard doors etc. He's a "dropout" from our Royal Canadian Mounted Police Canine Training School. Were very lucky to have got him but he came with a few shocking talents......  He's very devoted, rarely no more then two feet away from me if he has a choice!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Iancshippee on October 24, 2017, 10:44:48 AM
Looking great, Lance! I really like your weathering on the fuselage. Someday when my skills improve I will get adventurous and try it.

As for the Le Rhone question, I have seen 2 9J's in person, both at the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome in New York. One powered their Avro 504k replica for many years, and the other is mounted in a Fokker Dr. 1 replica that was in regular use up until the 1980s. I can attest that both have copper pipes, but the one in the Dr.1 saw a tremendous amount of use, and it's safe to say that everything under the cowling was the same color from all the castor oil buildup! So fear not, a well-used engine in a heavily weathered airframe will be very much stained one shade. Great work, I envy what you can do!

Ian
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on October 24, 2017, 11:21:07 AM
   Thanks for your kind comments Ian. It would appear that either copper or steel pipes could be accurate in this case, although I now am leaning more towards copper for this LeRhone installation. Having said that though I'm not going to repaint this one, like the darker "browner" shade of PC.10 I've mixed up for this subject I am confident no one can convince me it's incorrect! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: GAJouette on October 25, 2017, 11:13:44 AM
 Lance,
Man do I ever need to get back to this forum more often! Just found this awesome thread this evening and read it through. Absolutely Outstanding work my old friend. Your weathering is as always right on target along with top notch skills. I'm most impressed with the way you've shown the gasoline washed off dope,absolutely beautifully done. Keep up the awesome levels of excellence. Will be following!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on October 25, 2017, 12:02:20 PM
   Thanks so much Greg! Your compliments and approval mean a great deal, this is a very unique and new (in my experience at least) finish. I've got the middle panels and the lower wing roots done now, photos to follow shortly.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: KONG on October 25, 2017, 12:44:17 PM
Awesome Lance  8)  What's all that white stuff?  ;) Honestly, a cracker of a job. I haven't been too active, as you know,
modelling can be a fickle mistress. I sort of gave up on the blow by blow accounts.
Pottered around a lot, but getting back to it again. You have made excellent progress, and
I really want to do the Camel, so will watch yours come together.

Cheers Lance

All the best from NZ

Dave
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 01, 2017, 01:38:07 AM
     Time for another update, this Build seems to be getting slower as time goes on!
     The flying and control surfaces were taped and Post Shading applied to the ribs using dry chalk pastels, a long and frankly tedious process.

(https://i.imgur.com/fdqJON9.jpg)

In this photo the chipping of the PC.10 on the wing roots has been completed showing the CDL exposed. On reviewing the photos I've decided to add a bit more chipping to the next rib space on both sides when I distress the decals.

(https://i.imgur.com/Am0yUrz.jpg)

   Here's some of the shading completed followed by views of the components sealed with 4 coats of Future in preparation for the decals:

(https://i.imgur.com/zyWq8Ke.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9UsVAy3.jpg)

   ...... and with Future, the step plates are "Bare Metal" adhesive foil.

(https://i.imgur.com/061gwbR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/H85jOdt.jpg)

    The grey panel below the cockpit has been chipped as well with the original PC.10 showing through per the reference photos:

(https://i.imgur.com/9xqgJ1L.jpg)

   Next step is to mount the lower wing to the fuselage and fill in the resulting gap at the back edge of the joint. Once that is complete and the area refinished it will be time to tackle the decals. Given the number of comments on the fragility and tendency to break up of these particular decals I've given them a coat of Microscale's "Liquid Decal Film" to hopefully preclude such problems.
   More to follow once the foregoing steps are completed.

Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: coyotemagic on November 01, 2017, 01:59:10 AM
Spectacular work on the weathering, Lance!  Matches the photos perfectly!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 01, 2017, 02:03:49 AM
Thanks Bud! This multi layer chipping process sure makes for slow progress, I'll be very pleased once I get the decals on and distressed and get back to the basic Build!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Juan on November 01, 2017, 02:13:43 AM
Hi Lance, your time and efforts have been rewarded with outstanding results.  Looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 01, 2017, 08:06:24 AM
Thank you Juan, both for your kind comment and for looking in!
Cheers,
Lance
 
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: GAJouette on November 01, 2017, 10:55:06 AM
 Lance,
I can't get over your multi layered chipping! Each time I look at the more impressed I become. Keep these awesome up dates coming my old friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 01, 2017, 12:04:52 PM
   Thanks Greg, nice to have you checking in. I got most of the decals on this PM, will work at distressing them a bit and try to get a few more photos up in the next few days.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: RAGIII on November 01, 2017, 11:33:53 PM
Spectacular work on the weathering, Lance!  Matches the photos perfectly!
Cheers,
Bud

I agree with my Amigo Bud! Outstanding work on the weathering and in particular the chipping!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 02, 2017, 05:36:42 AM
Thanks Rick, I've got the decals on and they have been distressed as well. Photos to follow shortly.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lone modeller on November 02, 2017, 06:04:26 AM
The work needed to distress the paintwork is really worthwhile Lance. This should look very convincing indeed when finished. And who is bothered if it takes a little longer - the result wil be worth it.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: jeroen_R90S on November 02, 2017, 06:06:08 AM
+1 -a lot of work(?) it may be, but it sure looks great!

Jeroen
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 02, 2017, 09:10:58 AM
    Thanks for looking in Gents, and for your comments. It's starting to come together now!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Alexis on November 02, 2017, 09:51:24 AM
Love your weathering Lance . Excellent job on making her look well used .



Terri
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 02, 2017, 09:43:27 PM
Thanks Terri. If this slow but persistent snow doesn't stop soon I may never get back to the workbench instead of a snow scoop! I always look forward to more modelling time in the Winter but this is a bad start!! :-\ ::)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Borsos on November 02, 2017, 11:18:25 PM
I love weathered airplanes and you are building a wonderfull representation of a heavy weathered Camel. That's mouthwatering to start a Camel on my own...
Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 02, 2017, 11:53:04 PM
Thanks Borsos! Your compliments, having followed your Builds here, mean a great deal!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 03, 2017, 12:09:20 AM
   I made some progress yesterday after a marathon of snow clearing and house chores. The decals are completed on the fuselage and weathered to match the distressed paint scheme of the aircraft. The peeled paint areas on the inner lower wings were expanded a small amount to match the reference photos as well. I was pleasantly surprised at the amount of colour the decals add, the profiles of this aircraft appeared very "plain". The dusty looking spots at the wing/fuselage joint just behind the step panels are sanding dust from the lower fuselage/wing joint underneath, they have since been cleaned off!

(https://i.imgur.com/97lyepP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/h6rXHCL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/h30Jmp2.jpg)

    I've also completed most of the wing decals. On these I've kept the wear to a minimum, just enough to not overly contrast with the severely weathered and worn fuselage. The wing markings will require some post shading to stay consistent with the highlighted main surfaces and I need to add the aileron inspection ports covers as well.

(https://i.imgur.com/NE9Vdmp.jpg)

    I hope to find time today to complete the Post Shading.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: boggie on November 03, 2017, 07:31:41 AM
Greetings Lance.

That is the nicest bit of vandalism I've seen for ages!  ;D

Very effective too.  :)
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 03, 2017, 08:00:21 AM
Thanks for looking in and commenting, boggie, much appreciated.  :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: RAGIII on November 03, 2017, 08:23:34 AM
Really looks great Lance! The distressed dope and Markings are spot on!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: jknaus on November 03, 2017, 10:28:59 AM
Amazing work Lance. Just amazing.
James
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 03, 2017, 12:09:17 PM
Rick, James,
   Thanks so much! I keep going back to the photos to ensure myself this is not overdone. "Factory fresh" she is not!!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: aliluke on November 03, 2017, 04:09:47 PM
Courageous work that level of weathering is. Brilliantly done - I'd never have the guts to try it!

Snow clearing? Cold Lake? Sounds like a courageous place to live as well!

Cheers,
Alistair
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 04, 2017, 02:19:42 AM
   Thank you Alistair, I need a vote of confidence at this stage as I keep thinking I may have gone too far on the wear and tear. As for the "place to live" they don't call it COLD Lake for no reason, as the locals say! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Jeff K on November 04, 2017, 03:51:42 PM
+1 vote of confidence.

your bus is no more beat up than MacLaren's real one in the photo. you find a nice MacLaren figure you could probably recreate the photo and fool a few people... me for example...
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: boggie on November 04, 2017, 05:29:49 PM
Rick, James,
   Thanks so much! I keep going back to the photos to ensure myself this is not overdone. "Factory fresh" she is not!!
Cheers,
Lance
   Thank you Alistair, I need a vote of confidence at this stage as I keep thinking I may have gone too far on the wear and tear. As for the "place to live" they don't call it COLD Lake for no reason, as the locals say! ;)
Cheers,
Lance

"Factory fresh she is not"

At the risk of being blunt mate, neither are we!  ;D

Which perhaps is why your degree of weathering is spot on.

You have the life experience to "feel" how much is appropriate.  ;D

Which you have very successfully achieved.  8)

"Vote of confidence"?

You don't need it!

"Sic itur ad astra'", and all that implies, still applies.  :)

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 04, 2017, 11:56:08 PM
"Sic itur ad astra'", and all that implies, still applies
    Wow! Virgil no less! I am flattered boggie, and thank you as well Jeff, my confidence in this weathering adventure is boosted significantly. I've since given the decalled areas a coat of Future to blend it all together, a flat coat next and some shading of the markings should complete the effect. I'll get some photos done once that's completed. :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Juan on November 05, 2017, 01:13:28 AM
Lance, you da man.  Just go with it, your art speaks for itself.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 05, 2017, 02:10:31 AM
Thanks Juan, comments such as this are always most welcome! :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Alexis on November 05, 2017, 02:40:22 AM
Thanks Terri. If this slow but persistent snow doesn't stop soon I may never get back to the workbench instead of a snow scoop! I always look forward to more modelling time in the Winter but this is a bad start!! :-\ ::)
Cheers,
Lance

We are off to bad start this winter , last weekend plus 19 degrees , this weekend -19 -24 with wind chill . Not a lot of snow yet . On the plus side it's bench time once again . Ja , will be shoveling once again this weekend as well . Strangely I have develop a relationship with the shovel . A fawness I'm not overly excited about .

She is shaping up nicely Lance and I admire on how you are trying new stuff in your modeling skills which have grown tremdously over the years .
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 05, 2017, 02:49:32 AM
   Thanks so very much Terri, your remarks are greatly appreciated. Yes, the snow shovel/scoop......... I've acquired an unhealthy disdain for the brute already! Keep warm.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: dr 1 ace on November 06, 2017, 07:23:17 AM
Wonderful progress, especially, a big second all the above on duplicating the weathering/paint flaking !!!!

Ed
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 06, 2017, 01:04:26 PM
 Thanks Ed, hopefully I can bring this all together at the completion stage!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lone modeller on November 07, 2017, 03:19:15 AM
I thoought that I had already commented on this Lance - somehow I must have forgotten to post it!

The weathered and battered look that you have achieved on both the paintwork and the markings is staggering. That is real artistry and no mistake. This model is going to look extremely realistic when completed.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 07, 2017, 03:47:52 AM
Thank you for your most welcome comments Stephen. I had thought earlier that completing the post shading of the wing markings was imminent however a myriad of touch ups and the intervals to allow over coats to cure have prolonged the process, all part of the normal sequence and I didn't want to rush it. It's been a challenge to find a sequence to achieve the effect but a lot of fun and education as well. There's been a lot of the old modelling "nope, not right, try again" going on with this one, hopefully lessons learned are retained! ::)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: andonio64 on November 07, 2017, 06:02:13 PM
Lance I agree with Stephen, the worn look you are achieving is a piece of art, it really gives the idea of the stress the men who flew on those machines had to cope with, these signs of wear and tear on the machines look to me like scars on the pilots lives...

Fantastic job, keep it up!

Antonio
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 08, 2017, 02:21:52 AM
   Thanks Antonio! I'm not sure this project qualifies as "art" however I am truly humbled by all of the very positive feedback it's generated. Compliments from the Membership here who produce such impressive results mean a great deal to me.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Gisbod on November 09, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Nice job Lance!

Guy
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 10, 2017, 04:16:55 AM
    Thank you Guy! I'm unable to make any progress for the next few days, have family visiting for the weekend. Real life again asserts it's place! :-\
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: xmald on November 11, 2017, 09:16:32 PM
Lance the weathering is spot on!!! looks very realistic! Congrats mate!!
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 12, 2017, 07:08:42 AM
Thanks for looking and for your comment Filip!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 28, 2017, 03:11:52 AM
    This Build continues at a snails pace, however I have made some headway despite the many interruptions.     
    The landing gear has been assembled, installed, and rigged:

(https://i.imgur.com/HNgXP7G.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QrrTEAq.jpg)

    I also added the Cooper Bomb Rack and sprayed/splattered castor oil to the undersides:

(https://i.imgur.com/OMjDBqZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/z0LTEn0.jpg)

    Next came the turtle deck and upper forward cowlings. The two previously broken cabanes and a third which followed during gear installation were drilled, pinned, and carefully installed using CA. The twin Vickers and the Aldis Sight followed:

(https://i.imgur.com/9gAQI6v.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0ZkoWdF.jpg)

   As you can see in these shots the brackets from the firewall to the ring cowling have fallen victim to careless fumble fingers and will need replacing!

(https://i.imgur.com/9L44xcp.jpg)

   The prop is "posed" for this photo:

(https://i.imgur.com/18Im4tl.jpg)

........ and last the cabanes were rigged using Modelkasten elastic thread:

(https://i.imgur.com/tPuq5uU.jpg)

    Now it's time to finish up some oil and weathering to the forward fuselage and the installation of the upper wing can be started after some pre-rigging work.
Slow but steady will hopefully win this race!
Cheers,
Lance





Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Juan on November 28, 2017, 03:44:25 AM
Wow Lance, I can smell the castor oil from here, and the rest....   I am at a loss for words.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lone modeller on November 28, 2017, 04:11:59 AM
Completely agree with Juan - that is very realistic indeed and some very fine rigging on display here. It will be worth all of the effort when it is finished because that will be a mini-masterpiece.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Borsos on November 28, 2017, 05:17:49 AM
Really great, Lance. I love this Camel, you are doing a wonderful job her!
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: jeroen_R90S on November 28, 2017, 05:37:11 AM
Fantastic! I especially like the chipped wheels and the oil stains look great too!
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 28, 2017, 05:54:45 AM
Thank you all Gents, I really appreciate you looking at her and commenting so generously!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: coyotemagic on November 28, 2017, 07:07:23 AM
You have nailed it, Lance!  This is pure modelling magic!
Cheers,
Bue
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Bughunter on November 28, 2017, 07:49:18 AM
Lance, this is really a "used" Camel, I like it a lot!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 28, 2017, 08:27:42 AM
    Much appreciated Bud and Frank. I'm still doing little touch ups, painting and decaling the bay struts, and putting the wheels back on with pins this time. Don't even ask  how I managed that genius move!! :-X :-\
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: TobyCoulson on November 28, 2017, 08:40:52 AM
Cor!!
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: boggie on November 28, 2017, 11:11:41 AM
Well Lance, you have finally done it.

Got me gobsmacked!   :)

If your outstanding results are associated with a "snail pace" strategy, then I say,

Hail the Snail!  ;D

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 28, 2017, 12:25:43 PM
Toby and Boggie,
    Many thanks for your comments. I noticed the repaired starboard Vickers just now, I'll be replacing that muzzle asap as it sticks out like the proverbial sore thumb!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Manni on November 28, 2017, 06:05:58 PM
Great work, Lance.
I love the worn effect.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: ondra on November 28, 2017, 10:45:06 PM
Wow, that is one very impressive piece of weathering, great job, Lance!

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: RAGIII on November 28, 2017, 11:50:39 PM
You have nailed it, Lance!  This is pure modelling magic!
Cheers,
Bue

As always my Amigo has said it perfectly! James Fahey recently posted some castor oil staining photos of a Camel. Yours is perfect right down to the spatters on the lower wing!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 29, 2017, 03:02:44 AM
Manni, Ondra, and Rick,
    Thanks a bunch guys, hasn't been the smoothest progress but encouragement and validation help a lot!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: dr 1 ace on November 30, 2017, 04:43:08 AM
You have nailed it, Lance!  This is pure modelling magic!
Cheers,
Bue

As always my Amigo has said it perfectly! James Fahey recently posted some cator oil staining photos of a Camel. Yours is perfect right down to the spatters on the lower wing!
RAGIII

Agree with both of my Amigos, it just keeps getting better !!!

ED
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on November 30, 2017, 07:19:10 AM
Thanks for the vote of confidence Ed! :)
I've started adding some of the rigging to the lower wing points so the upper wing will be going on shortly, always a "tense" stage of the Build! More to follow soon.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Doug Mace on November 30, 2017, 12:42:05 PM
Superlative, Lance...absolutely first rate.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 01, 2017, 09:52:01 AM
   Many Thanks Doug, much appreciated! :)
I've got an update to post imminently and the upper wing goes on tomorrow, exciting times at the bench!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 01, 2017, 10:15:24 AM
   Finally this Build is starting to move along at a decent pace.I've completed all of the tasks I wanted done prior to mounting the top wing which I hope to tackle tomorrow.
   First on the list was to install the cross brace at the front of the small axle wing which I'd prepared for but forgot to add when the landing gear was rigged. The center turnbuckle is from GasPatch Models. The wheels were damaged earlier; they have been removed, drilled and pinned, and will be installed in the final assembly stage.

(https://i.imgur.com/xC52Yu5.jpg)

All of the rigging that could be done on the lower wing and fuselage was completed to ease the process once the upper wing is attached.

(https://i.imgur.com/EbJUoEy.jpg)

    The engine cowling retention brackets broken off earlier were "scratched" from lead shrink seal from a bottle of good "Red from Oz" and all four replaced and painted.

(https://i.imgur.com/UZomtVH.jpg)

    I located a PE footstep liner in the spares box, modified it slightly and it was installed and painted as well.

(https://i.imgur.com/cAHnzqx.jpg)

   ........ and finally the previously badly repaired starboard Vickers Gun received a new muzzle with a 0.7 mm brass barrel to match the port one, now they do match! The barrel was robbed from my un-built Clerget Kit which awaits a replacement from fellow Member and good Buddy Mark Krumrey (MGunns) from his Ship's Camel version which needs one only. Many Thanks "Gunney"! :)

(https://i.imgur.com/Q5ESS0q.jpg)

     I am looking forward to getting that upper wing done, not far to go to completion from there!
Cheers,
Lance









Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: PrzemoL on December 01, 2017, 10:45:22 PM
You are cruising, Lance! Looking forward for the next updates. Great modelling!

(and I see I have forgotten about that brace in front of the axle fairing in my both Camels, may add them tonight, thanks for reminding me :) )
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 01, 2017, 10:58:38 PM
Thanks Prze, it's nice to be making progress again!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: RAGIII on December 02, 2017, 12:28:47 AM
Outstanding progress Lance! Your replaced parts turned out perfectly! I also am looking forward to the next update.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 02, 2017, 06:39:26 AM
Rick,
    Thanks for checking in and for your comments. The next update should be soon as I've just completed the day's real chores and am about to tackle that upper wing. As our compatriots in Blighty say, "In for a penny, in for a pound"! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: mgunns on December 03, 2017, 02:54:15 PM
Great progress Lance.  The Machine Gun barrell looks the business, the foil cowling tabs look the part and the weathering is spot on.  I have noticed in previous builds you use a lot of that "Special" foil.  You must have a ready supply of it handy for such purposes.  ;)  The undercarriage rigging now complete and the start of the wing rigging, you will be on the "home stretch" before you know it.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: bobs_buckles on December 03, 2017, 06:57:12 PM
Nice work on the cowling, Lance. Nice work all around  ;)
Keep doing what you do best.

Cheers,
Bob  :)
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 04, 2017, 12:33:23 AM
    Thanks for your endorsements Mark and von B. ;D The lead foil is a great little asset to have on hand; pliable, sturdy, and the price is right!
    I've got the upper wing on and the main rigging is complete with the exception of the cross bracing of the front cabanes and their dreaded "Acorn" device. I hope to complete that later today and follow up with a few photos.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: gedmundson on December 04, 2017, 06:10:53 AM
Hey Lance - tuning in late here as usual - wow! You've done a fantastic job on this Camel.
Best regards,
Gary
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: gbrivio on December 04, 2017, 06:17:24 AM
Extremely realistic weathering, it's coming out an eyecatching model.
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: jeroen_R90S on December 04, 2017, 06:25:55 AM
Look forward to the new photo's -looks great so far! :)

Jeroen
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 04, 2017, 08:05:43 AM
Gary, Giuseppe & Jeroen,
     Thanks for looking in and taking the time to comment. No update as yet as I'm still wrestling with that bloody "acorn"! ::) Thought I had it fairly quickly and then realised it would only align pointing backwards! :-\ Back to the drawing board, remove and re-rig 180 degrees out in the vertical and it should work out. I'm half way there!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Syd Solo on December 04, 2017, 06:25:25 PM
Lance
I am in awe of your weathering skills.

Cheers

Syd
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 05, 2017, 12:20:05 AM
Thanks Syd, she is beaten up pretty badly as the photos prove. By way of a mini update I was able to master the acorn on the forward cabanes, easier then anticipated once I got my head around which wires were upper, which lower! I want to get the rigging painted, then I'll post a few photos.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: jknaus on December 05, 2017, 01:44:51 AM
Absolutely gorgeous work Lance. Really well done. I'm thinking best of show is tied up this summer :)
James
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 05, 2017, 02:26:11 AM
James,
    Thanks for your very kind remarks.  I suspect the extreme "weathered effects", although no more extreme then the original,  I've put on this one would be a bit too much for the average Judge! I hope to have her completed in the next several days and will try to drag her along to one of our Club Meetings.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 05, 2017, 05:43:00 AM
    Another small update, the wing rigging is complete.
    I used the Magic Third Hand to ease the rigging job, there's no angle or access that you can't set up on this thing!

(https://i.imgur.com/25hXHeY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/AaBLnmT.jpg)

   The cross braces on the Bay Struts proved problematic. Even though using Modelkasten thread to reduce the strain several of the loops on the struts broke and had to be replaced with eyelets from Bob's Buckles. Drilling between the wings is not a recommended leisure activity! As an observation on the Kit I had very poor luck with the molded on eyelets for rigging on this one. Having several more to build I've determined to remove them and drill in the metal eyelets to save the angst of doing it later after the model is assembled and far more difficult to drill. Great Kit by Wingnut Wings but I personally do not like those little flimsy loops.

(https://i.imgur.com/RJH3uiG.jpg)

   I got the "acorn" device rigged between the cabane struts on the second try. It should prove much easier on the next Camel Build.........

(https://i.imgur.com/uRpwbim.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3sCtXjC.jpg)

    The rest of the rigging then went very quickly. For this stage I used my preferred Maxima Chameleon 0.12mm mono fishing line and 0.5 mm brass tubing from Bob's Buckles.

(https://i.imgur.com/5sMdE0c.jpg)

    The rigging was painted with Mr. Metal Colour #213 "Stainless" per usual. Now it's time to get at the tail and control surfaces.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Alexis on December 05, 2017, 10:25:06 AM
Looking good Lance  :)



Terri
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 05, 2017, 11:14:21 AM
Thanks Terri, I now feel close to completing this little devil! :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Manni on December 05, 2017, 05:36:17 PM
Great work, Lance! Soon it will get it's well deserved place in your showcase.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Des on December 05, 2017, 06:31:07 PM
Very nice work with the rigging Lance, the little acorn can be problematic but you have achieved an excellent result, looking forward to seeing your next update.

Des.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Bughunter on December 06, 2017, 02:01:25 AM
Lance, this Camel looks so realistic :thumbs_up:

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 06, 2017, 02:30:15 AM
Manni, Des, and Frank,
    Your comments are very much appreciated! I hope to complete the tail section today and get a good bite out of the ailerons and their rigging as well.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lone modeller on December 06, 2017, 05:12:25 AM
Now Lance that jig is just cheating!! The rigging looks very good, especially the acorn which I reckon must have caused the language to go blue..... This will be a real stunner when it is complete.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 06, 2017, 07:36:52 AM
Stephen,
    Thanks for checking in and commenting, it's always great to hear from the "Ultimate Jigmeister"!
    The Acorn, yes, it was a bit of a teaser! I recall when I was 10 years of age or so reading Paul Brickhill's "Reach for the Sky" As I'm sure you'll agree those were gentler and more "gentlemanly" times thus four letter words were rarely seen in print. He stated several times that Bader, in a stressful situation, uttered "one short unprintable word". I loved the phrase and when I discovered on the first attempt that when tightened up the Acorn pointed backwards I did the same, only uttered it numerous times! It's one of those "measure twice, cut once " stories. If you connect the bottom wires to the top of the cabanes etc. and then firm up the wires you'll find of course that the thing will rotate and there you are! Thankfully only the uppers were glued and had to be replaced...... :-\
   My "Fun Meter" is now back in the green zone again.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: PrzemoL on December 06, 2017, 07:48:08 AM
Stephen,
    Thanks for checking in and commenting, it's always great to hear from the "Ultimate Jigmeister"!
    The Acorn, yes, it was a bit of a teaser! I recall when I was 10 years of age or so reading Paul Brickhill's "Reach for the Sky" As I'm sure you'll agree those were gentler and more "gentlemanly" times thus four letter words were rarely seen in print. He stated several times that Bader, in a stressful situation, uttered "one short unprintable word". I loved the phrase and when I discovered on the first attempt that when tightened up the Acorn pointed backwards I did the same, only uttered it numerous times! It's one of those "measure twice, cut once " stories. If you connect the bottom wires to the top of the cabanes etc. and then firm up the wires you'll find of course that the thing will rotate and there you are! Thankfully only the uppers were glued and had to be replaced...... :-\
   My "Fun Meter" is now back in the green zone again.
Cheers,
Lance

If I may add a few words on the acorn. I did my two in the following way:

1. Drill two inter-crossed holes through the acorn and then pass two inter-crossing sections of monofilament securing them with CA glue
2. Mount eyelets at the top wing, drill the holes at the lower ends of fron cabanes.
3. Tie the acorn with two lines to the upper wing eyelets using tube sections before mounting the wing. This is probably the trickiest part, you need to measure two identiacal lengths of the lines (about 24mm each) to have the acorn those 7mm below the upper wing lower surface and exactly at the centre. Securing the measured line lengths with the tube sections before glue is applied is vital here. Tweezers, ruler, tweezers, ruler, etc. untill satisfied :-)
4. Finally after the upper wing assembly tie two lower lines from the acorns - these can be done easily one after another, one tied does not deform the location of the acorn under the wing.

And BTW, great modelling, Lance!
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 06, 2017, 09:25:24 AM
Thank you Prze and for the description as well. I used Modelkasten line so briefly once the upper two connections are made with the acorn centered and flush to the upper wing and glued the bottom two can be stretched to:
a.) pull the Acorn down to the 7mm mark; and
b.)  center the acorn.

 Two Members and close friends here came up with this method between their efforts, Mark (MGunns) and Chris Johnson working on a Hobbycraft Camel and a Wingnut Wings one respectively. The first (rear facing) device was entirely my error; now that it's behind me I can laugh at how careless I was. If the fun goes out of the Hobby it's time to start another Hobby, and I'm not going to do that any time soon!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: RAGIII on December 07, 2017, 01:06:06 AM
Awesome rigging as always Lance! Although it may have been a trying experience you certainly nailed the bullet fairing in the end!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 07, 2017, 01:56:50 AM
Thanks Rick, as usual it seems much easier when looking back................. :P
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Borsos on December 08, 2017, 03:12:01 AM
Awesome build, Lance, I cannot wait to see it finished. And I totally agree with your opinion regarding the plastic rigging loops on the WNW struts. That looks much too tiny for plastic.
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 08, 2017, 07:36:04 AM
Thanks Borsos, the little plastic eyelets are definitely too small for plastic moldings. The control horns appear "touchy" as well but I haven't rigged those yet. More to follow........ ???
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 12, 2017, 01:43:18 AM
   I am calling this project completed, having finished the final construction and touch ups yesterday. My thoughts on this Kit echo MGunns as he stated them a few days back on completing his USAS Version. His recommendations in point form echo mine; it's a great little kit however the experience can be improved by changing a few components, particularly the replacement of very delicate plastic rigging connectors with metal loops. In retrospect I believe that EZ Line would eliminate the problems as well however I don't like the flat profile of the product and therefore elected to exclude it from the options.
   The remaining rigging was added with the completion of the empennage components; I used Modelkasten 0.6 (1:48) elastic line for this step as well as the aileron control lines. The elevator and rudder control horn rear support lines are a very fine mono, probably around 0.07 diameter.

(https://i.imgur.com/w9Ior5q.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Ce3E8Px.jpg)

   ...... and the aileron control lines done with Modelkasten as well:

(https://i.imgur.com/WMIIcPv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Nt1OB5F.jpg)

   Next came the Rotherham Air Driven Fuel Pump. While checking photos to confirm it's placement on the cabane strut I noticed that the air pressure line was not included on the kit version. I added the line using fine electrical wire from my "Scratch Bin" and a support strap from Bare Metal Foil.

(https://i.imgur.com/hHkOxsw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4500TMS.jpg)

    The last piece to be installed was the prop, the Kit version with it's spinner. With the very small area of wood not covered by paint I deemed it not worth the effort to do a hand carved version.

(https://i.imgur.com/ADz0BPF.jpg)

   I have to add that the Machro Setting on this little camera is a very humbling feature, things look pretty rough that close up!

   And here's two very quick work bench shots of the completed model. I plan to get some better photos of her later today for the Completed Models posting.

(https://i.imgur.com/FQqPcNE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KUZzbeF.jpg)

 Hope you like it!
Cheers,
Lance



Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: RAGIII on December 12, 2017, 01:53:22 AM
Like it? Damn, I Love it! Outstanding results as always Lance! Gorgeous!!!!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: andonio64 on December 12, 2017, 01:59:56 AM
Wow Lance, I wish I had one !!!!
I'll write to Santa immediately when at home!

(I don't mean a kit box, I mean that built model!!!!)

:-D

Antonio
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Juan on December 12, 2017, 02:16:37 AM
Amazing work Lance, congratulations on this mini-masterpiece.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 12, 2017, 02:52:29 AM
Many thanks for your very humbling remarks, Guys! Feedback such as this is very much appreciated and adds to the confidence enormously! :) :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lone modeller on December 12, 2017, 03:54:51 AM
I wish my camera close up attachment was as kind as yours Lance: mine shows up far greater errors and blunders! Please can I borrow yours when I take photos of my models?

Super build and equally super log - am looking forward to seeing more in the completed models section.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Borsos on December 12, 2017, 04:29:33 AM
Wow. I really love it. That's a real beauty!
Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 12, 2017, 05:52:51 AM
Stephen and Borsos,
    Many Thanks for checking her out and for your comments. A change in plans has delayed my photo session but I'll try to get the Completed Models post done later today.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: boggie on December 12, 2017, 07:21:09 AM
Great result Lance!

I concur with Rick's comments 100%.

Gorgeous she certainly is!

I impatiently await more pics in the completed section.  :)
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: PrzemoL on December 12, 2017, 08:20:08 AM
Yes, gorgeous is the word coming to my mind, too. Congratulations, Lance!
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 12, 2017, 08:44:44 AM
Thanks Prze and Bogey, your comments really make my day! I managed to get a bunch of photos done, just need to find a bit of time to post them.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: coyotemagic on December 12, 2017, 09:30:44 AM
Beautiful, Lance!  No one who has ever seen photos of MacLaren's Camel would ever accuse you of overdoing it.  Your rendition is perfect!  Congratulations, buddy!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: pepperman42 on December 12, 2017, 09:34:09 AM
Great work!!

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 12, 2017, 10:30:26 AM
Bud, Steve,
    Thanks Guys! Speaking of photos of his Camel I've picked up on an "inconsistency" in the various references. Several show him supposedly in  F-2137 (Code "U") with the cabane struts wrapped in probably, doped linen, several others have the cabanes "clean". Also some have the Rotheringham Fuel Pump prominent on the starboard rear cabane strut, others with no pump visible so I assume it was on the starboard forward landing gear strut. There is also a comment in one of the Osprey books that a code of "G" vs. "U" can be picked out of the original photo. Possibly an earlier flown Camel with similar markings to his final mount?
   Like the true version of PC.10, yet another mystery! :-\
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: aliluke on December 12, 2017, 02:18:07 PM
That's a stunner! Your macro setting on your camera may humble you but your work sure humbles me!

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: Manni on December 12, 2017, 04:09:25 PM
Wow, Lance. A real stunner, the worn effect looks great. A beautiful plane.
Bye Manni
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Camel "LeRhone" Major DR MacLaren
Post by: lcarroll on December 13, 2017, 02:29:17 AM
 Allistair and Manni,
    I am the humbled one with your most generous comments! Many Thanks. I just posted the final photos in Completed Models.
Cheers,
Lance