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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Des on June 16, 2017, 07:12:12 PM
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I have decided to have a crack at the new Copper State Models 1:48 scale injection moulded FK.8 mid version. A full build log of this kit can be found on my website but i will post as much as possible here on the forum as well.
The kit gives a choice of a resin engine or a plastic engine. I opted for the plastic engine even though the resin engine is quite nice. The engine went together very well, the first thing I did was to open up the gap between the cylinders, I did this with a razor saw, it was quite an easy exercise and gives a much beter appearance. The first two images show three of the cylinders having been cut away, I ran a piece of wet and dry paper between the cut cylinders to give a smooth finish.
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The rocker arms are supplied as a solid lump of plastic so to make them look a little more like the real thing I hollowed them out ginving them a nice 3D appearance. I firstly drilled several holes through the bottom of the rocker arms then removed the excess plastic using a fine jewellers file. I also added the two magnets to the front of the engine, I drilled six 0.3mm holes into the front of each magneto to take the ignition leads. I also fitted the kit supplied plumbing which fits on top of the cylinders.
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I spayed the cylinders using the copper MRP paint, this paint sprays beautifully but does require at least three coats to obtain a good coverage. The rocker arms were brush painted with Mr Metal Color Stainless and lightly buffed once dry. The crank caes were brush painted with Mr Metal Color Chrome Silver, this was also lightly buffed once dry.
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These next photos show one side of the engine nearly completed, I added a lot of extra plumbing using 0.24 brass wire, the throttle cables were made from 0.12 copper wire painted with Mr Metal Color Dark Iron. The ignition leads were made from 0.09mm copper wire and once fitted were painted with Humbrol No.94.
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This next picture shows the engine sitting on the instruction booklet, the comparison between the instructions and the built engine show the amount of extra detail I have added, a bit time consuming but well worth the effort. Please bear in mind that my preferred scale is 1:32 so building this 1:48 scale engine is way out of my comfort zone, also, due to my wife being ill I have not built a model for 9 months so I am a little rusty.
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Des.
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Des,
It may not be your scale but I see no sign of rustiness or lack of detail! Gorgeous engine!
RAGIII
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Very nice start see ole buddy. I like that you are dabbling in 1,48
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Outstanding work Des! This is shaping up as another of your world class models
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Beautiful work, Des.
I hope that your wife is well on the road to recovery following her illness.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Outstanding detail on your engine (as usual), are you leaving the cowling open (would be a shame to hide such detail)?
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Good to see you back on a model! really very nice start on that engine.
Borsos
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Lovely Des!
Can't wait to see your progress. Such a lovely looking and interesting aircraft too.
Guy
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What a great start! And in my beloved scale too :)
The engine looks fantastic! But the MRP copper looks a bit bright on some pictures, thie is may be only due to light?
Good luck,
Frank
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Fabulous! At 1/48 incredible.
May I ask where you buy copper and brass wire to such precise diameters?
Cheers
Alistair
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Great start Des, the engine improvements are very impressive. (and I can't detect any evidence of "rust" in the photos!)
Cheers,
Lance
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Excellent details, Des!
Jörg
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I finished detailing the engine by adding the ignition leads and more plumbing, there is probably more that could be added but due to the small size I have decided to leave well enough alone. Here are a series of photos showing the completed engine, remember that this engine is the plastic one supplied with the kit, I did not use the metal exhaust either, I feel the plastic engine is every bit as good as the resin engine.
Des.
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Incedible work on this engine,Des. Wonderful work on the piping and cabeling.
Manni
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Simply outstanding!
RAGIII
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A little beauty, Des! Nicely done ;)
vB
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Geez...I've been away MUCH too long.
Now if we can just nudge you down to 1/72nd! ;) ;)
Really beautifully done, Des...
Dan
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Des- Does the kit instructions include a ignition wiring diagram? Or did you come across that somewheres else? Love the detail you've gone to.
Glenn
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Glenn, there are no instructions for the ignition wiring so I looked it up on the net and found some pretty good photos to copy.
Des.
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My good days are not even close to your rusty days! Such a pleasure to see your work! Best wishes for your wife.
Steve
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Blimy Des if this is rusty work what do you expect to achieve win you are well oiled? Fantastic to see you modelling again - even if you do feel outside of your comfort zone. I would feel very comfortable indeed if my models were only half as good as tis.
Best wishes to your wife for a rapid recovery.
Stephen.
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Thanks guys for all your very kind comments, and thank you for your concerns regarding my wife, she is nearly back to her normal self so that takes a lot of pressure off me.
I have started preparing the fuselage bits and pieces for painting, I also made the two PE ammo boxes which proved to be a bit fidly. While at this stage I thought I would trial fit the engine and guess what, it fits, I was a bit worried that all the extra plumbing I fitted would interfer with the mounting. There were some ejector pin marks inside the fuselage halves that needed filling before painting.
Des.
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Looks incredible in situ Des...
The PE may be fiddly, but you've nailed it. What do you use for glue for that?
Guy
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Thanks Guy, your comments are much appreciated. I use thin (runny) super glue for all the PE, it holds extremely well, only the smallest amount is needed.
Des.
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Ah ok, and how is it applied? I find it tricky to use!
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I have always applied the CA the same way, I use a length of 0.12mm copper wire, dipping the end of the wire into a small drop of CA will supply enough for most PE jobs, the wire will pick up a very small amount which in turn can be transferred to the PE, if more is required simply dip the wire into the drop of CA again. Bear in mind that CA 'goes off' fairly quickly so a new small drop will be needed in less than one minute, fresh CA is important if you wish to maintain it's viscosity and its adhering properties. To pick up a larger amount of CA for larger sizes of PE bend the end of the wire into a small loop, doing this will allow more CA to 'stick' to the wire. Runny CA has the ability to run into small spaces or along the part being glued using capillary action. As with nearly all super glues, drying time is extremely fast, a retarder can be used to slow it down a bit but I have never found the need to use it. Don't forget, if glue is applied to a painted surface there is a strong possibility that the paint will be pulled off taking the PE with it, so remove any paint before gluing. What I have written here are my techniques, everyone is different so please do what you feel comfortable with.
Des.
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That's great,
Thanks Des, you make it sound easy!
Guy
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As others said, the engine looks fantastic in place! Really looking forward to seeing what you do with the interior!
RAGIII
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Super engine Des. This may not be your normal scale t you are certainly a master with it.
Stephen.
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I have started to assemble the internals of the fuselage, fuselage sides have been painted with CDL (MRP) while the timber bits are painted with Humbrol enamels. I trial fitted the top fuselage cowling and placed the engine in position to see if everything fitted. The two fuselage halves fitted very well but all traces of paint have to be removed from all parts where they mate with the fuselage, tolerances are very tight.
Des.
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Very pretty Des!
I guess, as with Wingnuts, everything these days is computer controlled design and so is the manufacturing process- so there's basically no error! (until I get my hands on it of course!)
Looking forward to see how you rig it in this scale Des - something that generally steers me clear of smaller scale...
Guy
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A master class in model building. I am in awe of your "rusty" skills.
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I guess, as with Wingnuts, everything these days is computer controlled design and so is the manufacturing process- so there's basically no error!
Well....
assuming the designer driving the CAD system didn't make any mistakes, had the right info, made the correct compromises in creating a kit from the drawings of a full sized aeroplane
And then assuming that the design can actually be made, can be made without distorting in the process, can be made consistently, doesn't get damaged in handling
Apart from that, no errors
Richard
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Coming along beautifully Des. Looking forward to your progress,
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Another super update, another super model in the making.
Stephen.
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Excellent work Des,
As ever
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Crisp and clean. As usual from your workbench, Des.
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The fuselage is now ready to be closed up, I sprayed the internals with a coat of satin clear just to seal everything, the seat belt is the kit supplied PE item. The third photo shows the fuselage sides assembled but not glued, they are an extremely good fit.
Des.
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Lovely interior, Des ;)
von B
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Great job Des!
I think the petrol tank should be more like zinc coated steel or machined aluminium based on what you can see in Windsock.
Nevertheless, keep up your fantastic work.
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Wonderful interior.
Adam.
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Outstanding Des, beautiful work.
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I've just caught up with this one, Des, and it really is right up there with your usual quality of work!
Glad to hear Adrienne is getting back to health.
Ian
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Des, your interior is up to your usual beautiful standards!
RAGIII
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Despite,
Just a little bit late on discovering this beautiful project. The scale may be smaller but not your amazing Master Level Skill and talent. Well Done my friend.
Highest Regards
Gregory Jouette
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Magnificent work, as always, Des! I'm so glad you decided to use the plastic kit engine. It's as good as any aftermarket 1/48 scale resin engine I've seen.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks very much for looking in and leaving kind comments, they are much appreciated.
This photo shows the bottom wings just sitting in place, the locating lugs for the wings are superb and hold the wing very firmly.
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I completed the instrument panel by painting as per the instructions then applying the decals. The decals for this panel are absolutely brilliant, even though very tiny they were easy to apply and pulled down beautifully, the graphics on these decals are second to none.
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I have fitted the instrument panel to the cockpit coaming and glued the coaming to the fuselage, everything was a perfect fit and only needed a few strips of Tamiya tape to hold it in place while the glue dried.
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Des.
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Gorgeous Instrument Panel and interior Des! You are moving along nicely!
RAGIII
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Gorgeous update Des! I couldn`t agree more about the instrument panel decals - MeliusManu did the fantastic job. I have applied them already - superb!
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Truly superb work, Des! I agree with your assessment of the fit and instrument decals. This is the best kit I've built in ages.
Cheers,
Bud
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Wow Des, superb job all-around. The detail looks bigger than 1/48, a testament to your skills and CSM.
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A work of art! What more can I say?
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I have added the rigging to the front end of the fuselage, I used 0.12mm Modelkasten elastic thread, a brilliant product. I drilled small holes through the fuselage frames then inserted the thread securing it with CA. The third photo shows the rigging on both sides, the bottom and in front of the firewall. Once all the rigging was fitted I painted them with Mr Metal Color Stainless.
Des.
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very beautiful work Des, congratulations!
Xan
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A nice kit in very experienced hands = fantastic model!
Cheers,
Frank
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Des, I am so enjoying following your build. When welcoming people to the forum I often comment that it is an inspirational place. If. I had to give an example, your work on this superb model would be a case in point.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Very nice. The finish is very realistic - a credit to you and CSM.
Cheers
GrahamB
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Outstanding build Des, looking forward to your progress.
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Des, I wish I possessed a steady enough hand to produce the absolutely beautiful detailing you do! First rate work, a pleasure to watch this build.
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You're excelling yourself on this one Des!
Amazing panel and rigged to perfection.
Guy
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Fantastic modeling, as always Des!!
Jörg
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I have to agree with all of the others Des, Fantastic Modeling skills! It seems that the scale makes no difference in your hands!!
RAGIII
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That is looking super sweet Des. I have started me early version this weekend. One question which I can't see from your photos. Did you notch the side wall inner framing to allow the wire from the trim wheel to pass thru or just stick the frame on top. I notched mine yesterday but it was tedious work. Then it looks like you didn't have to so I may have made it unesssarily complex.
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I cut small slots in the frame using my razor saw, the cable then sat quite neatly inside the cut.
Des.
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I have now fixed the engine to the engine bearers and also started adding the PE engine covers. This is the last time the engine will be seen as I am adding all the engine cowls.
Des.
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I have started forming the nose of the model and to date this is the most difficult and time consuming part of the build, I reinforced the fold line by adding a length of lead wire CA'd to both sides, the small tabs which are part of the PE nose section break off very easily.
Des.
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It took some work but I finally fitted the nose section and the sides of the engine cover. I am now working on the top section which will see the covers completed. I am quite happy with the way the covers have turned out but as I said earlier, it took a lot of work.
Des.
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Fantantic job on the cowl des.to me this kind of use of photoetcg adds a ton of realism to the project.
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Can they not be made removable. I was hoping to try to do so on mine.
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All the different sections of cowl fit together fairly well and really need to be glued to give the proper look. I was thinking of leaving all the cowls off to display my engine but it didn't look right with no cowls at all.
Des.
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Beautiful!
Shame to hide it, but the cowlings do look great.
Very tricky though!
Guy
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Beautiful!
Shame to hide it, but the cowlings do look great.
Very tricky though!
Guy
Agree wholeheartedly, too bad the engine has to be hidden.
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Really beautiful looking cowling! I like the look of the different kinds of metal.
Cheers,
Bughunter
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I fitted the undercarriage to the fuselage, it was quite easy to fit and had good location pins, once the glue was dry it ended up as a srong assembly. I also fitted the fore and aft cabane struts, these went on very easily.
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A sprayed some MRP PC10 onto the undercarriage and the cabane struts, I also painted and fitted the radiators.
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Des.
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Beautiful work, Des! She's really coming together now.
Cheers,
Bud
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I have sprayed the underside with Gunze Off White which looks very much like CDL. I have also sprayed the top of the wings, tail and fuselage. For this I mixed up my own interpretation of late PC10, I used Gunze H423 RLM83 Dark Green and kept adding small quantities of Gunze H421 RLM81 Brown Violet until I reached the desired colour, ironically it ended up being virtually identical to MRP-253 PC10 late WW1 RAF. The most time consuming part of this process is all the masking that was required, plus doing the PC10 wrap around on the wings and tail. Gunze acrylics spay extremely well and dry in two hours, I thin my Gunze acrylic paints with lacquer thinners.
Des.
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:)Nice job.
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Oh, my, Des! That's gorgeous! I love the shade of PC10 you came up with, especially against the battleship grey. What did you use for that?
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks Bud, the gray I used is Gunze acrylic H334 Barley Gray
Des.
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Wonderful and so crisp and clean. I still have so much to learn from the masters.
I'm now tempted by this kit but my current backlog says hang on a minute mate...
Cheers,
Alistair
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Des, that is a nice looking model! And your fantastic engine is hidden :'(
The painting is great, I will follow your next steps and hope to learn something about weathering of that dark green.
Cheers,
Frank
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Beautifully crisp and clean!
Did you not like the MRP paints then Des?
Guy
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Well Des, I missed looking in a couple of days and you are well on your way to making this a biplane 8) Great results with the cowl panels and your PC 10 looks awesome! Looking forward to the next update!
RAGIII
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Thanks guys for all your wonderful comments, they are much appreciated.
I fitted the windscreen, the Aldis sight and the observers machine gun, the tail skid is also fitted. Decals have been applied to both sides of the fuselage, the tail and under the bottom wing, the bomb racks are also fited. The entire model still needs a coat of satin clear but this won't happen until the decals have cured.
Des.
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I really like how you build models.
I would call your style, the Admiralty Method, if this name is suitable for aviation. Everything is accurate, clean and very wonderful.
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Beautiful, Des! So clean it's hard to believe it's a model!
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In a word Gorgeous! OK a word isn't enough. The FK8 looked great before but the markings have really set it off!
RAGIII
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+1 (and all of the above). Truly beautiful Des.
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Hi Des! This is looking truly Superb! I can only add to all the previous compliments and say it is a clean, crisp beautifully detailed build... real craftsmanship! Regards, Marc
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wow spectacular work as per usual des
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Ditto to all the above comments !!!
Ed
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Just a small update this time, I painted and fitted the bombs to the bomb racks under the bottom wings, the bombs are painted with Humbrol No.7 full gloss Ligh Buff.
There is no colour call-out in the instructions for the bombs. The entire model has now been sprayed with a coat of satin clear, this was done before the gloss finish bombs were fitted.
Des.
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Gorgeous work Des! The Bombs are terrific and I must mention how fantastic the PC 10 outline on the undersurfaces turned out!
RAGIII
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Settle down Edgar, let me finish this one first ???
Des.
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;D ;D ;D Looking great Des, love how she is coming along.
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This just looks beautiful, Des.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Wonderful finish on the model so far Des. As others have written everything is so clean and sharp - in fact reflecting your usual super-high standards of craftsmanship.
Stephen.
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The wheels are now fitted, they were painted white then the red decal applied, the back of the wheels are painted PC10. I have also fitted the struts and the rigging brackets to the bottom wing, getting close now to fitting the top wing then the rigging. The prop has been painted with oils and is still going through the drying process.
Des.
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Looking Awesome Des! Nice work on the struts and rigging points!
RaGIII
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Why do you ask Edgar, is there a problem fitting the top wing ??? ??? ???
I did a quick trial fit and there does not appear to be any issues, I am building this model the same way I build all of my models, it may be different to the way other modelers work but I have always had great success with my technique.
Des.
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Mounted the top wing today, it went on really easy with no issues what so ever, now comes the fun part, the rigging.
Des.
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What a beauty she is, Des, even without the rigging! Another masterpiece in the making!
Cheers,
Bud
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just cranking this badboy out huh des. looks very nice. and i like how you are branching sometimes to 1/48 which gains you access to different types that could possibly never be done in 1/32. not that you couldnt just crank anything you want out of evergreen and brass but i know its nice to build a cool kit sometimes.
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What a beauty Des! I simply love it!
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Des,
Absolutely beautiful work my old friend. I tend to shy away from 1/48th scale anymore myself. But I still recognize the works of a true Master. Well Done and keep up the great works.
Highest Regards
Gregory Jouette
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I have always had great success with my technique.
Des, you are so right! You have great success with the whole model!
Cheers,
Frank
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What a beauty she is, Des, even without the rigging! Another masterpiece in the making!
Cheers,
Bud
I agree completely with Bud! Yet another masterpiece in the Making and one anyone would be proud to have in their collection!
RAGIII
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Great clean, flawless and impressive build of a great kit. Hats off once again!
Borsos
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Thanks guys for all your wonderful comments, they are much appreciated.
The CSM FK.8 is now done and dusted, the rigging was quite complex and took a little longer than expected, all in all the rigging went very well despite the small gap between the wings. I ended up using just about all of the PE that was supplied with the kit, overall it is an excellent kit which makes up to be a very nice looking model, a full build log can be found on my website.
Des.
One photo here the rest over in the completed model board. http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=8717.0
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Absolutely wonderful. Your work inspires a beginner, such as me, to keep trying to improve!
Thanks,
Alistair
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You have done it again. Another absolutely Gorgeous build!
RAGIII
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Beautifully done Des. Congratulations.