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Title: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on April 30, 2017, 05:19:57 AM
I've got a Pheon decal set complimented by Aviattic lozenge set as Roden decals are notoriously naff.
 Lance mentioned the BrenGun PE kit but I'm not at ease with PE so I'll give that a miss. Somewhere I think I have some Gaspatch M/guns for this so I may use them. I haven't decided which markings I'll go for yet. Any suggestions are welcome.

(https://s24.postimg.org/mylyjw9f9/IMG_0198.jpg)

(https://s24.postimg.org/4x2tm3fed/IMG_0200.jpg)

(https://s17.postimg.org/hebykltjz/IMG_0203.jpg)

(https://s17.postimg.org/mr0syqhgf/IMG_0204.jpg)

(https://s24.postimg.org/qkrrwjfsl/IMG_0202.jpg)

(https://s14.postimg.org/87t2ff5wh/IMG_0194.jpg)

(https://s14.postimg.org/x2ck9hqqp/IMG_0195.jpg)

(https://s14.postimg.org/wqv3wqaap/IMG_0196.jpg)

(https://s14.postimg.org/bihffavtt/IMG_0197.jpg)

(https://s14.postimg.org/rbmdvriqp/IMG_0193.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Juan on April 30, 2017, 08:00:56 PM
Hi Toby, looking forward to your progress, lots of decal options to choose from.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on April 30, 2017, 08:35:56 PM
There are indeed Juan. Too many :o

Started work by drilling and cutting out the hand holds on the fuselage and louvres on the bottom of the engine nacelle.

(https://s21.postimg.org/ir0q4nhyv/IMG_0208.jpg)

(https://s10.postimg.org/4wzbqrmzd/IMG_0207.jpg)

Will tidy up in due course when I go round removing all the flash.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Borsos on April 30, 2017, 09:54:36 PM
I have this model in my stash and will follow your build closely. I also have the Pheon set and although the choice of decal options is hard, I'll go with Fritz Beckhardt's plane. There's a fascinating book about him written by his grandson "Der Jude mit dem Hakenkreuz", sadly only in German afaik. http://archive.new-books-in-german.com/english/1699/417/417/129002/design1.html
Jewish aviators in the German airservice of WWI rarely get the attention they deserve. I can only conratulate Pheon decals to include his plane and for not having forgotten Jacob Wolff in their brilliant Jasta 17 sheet. Just a hint if you need one to choose a decal option for your Soemens Schuckert  ;)
Borsos
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 01, 2017, 12:51:34 AM
Borsos, certainly one to consider although I'm tempted by something more colourful. I'm such a tart.  ;)
I've just found the link to Lance's build and I'll be referring to that a lot.
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=6383.0
Looking at it I look as though I've got the wrong lozenge set.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lone modeller on May 01, 2017, 03:09:12 AM
Good to see you on another build. This looks interesting - I shall be following.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Borsos on May 01, 2017, 03:33:20 AM
Borsos, certainly one to consider although I'm tempted by something more colourful. I'm such a tart.  ;)
I've just found the link to Lance's build and I'll be referring to that a lot.
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=6383.0
Looking at it I look as though I've got the wrong lozenge set.

It's actually a great build. Seeing Lance's D III I realized again what a cool looking plane it is... 8)
 I am sure you'll build an equal beauty!
Borsos
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 01, 2017, 05:16:17 AM
Good to see you on another build. This looks interesting - I shall be following.

Stephen.
Thanks. I have not been idle though.
 
(https://s19.postimg.org/ahhkzocpf/IMG_7494.jpg)

Glad to be back with the real stuff  ;D
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 01, 2017, 10:24:20 PM
Started initial work on the engine with both halves joined. Paint used was Vallejo MA gun grey for the main crank case and their steel for the cylinders with a black wash. Spark plugs painted white. I'll be using monofilament for the leads.

(https://s2.postimg.org/eoq8j3ycp/IMG_0211.jpg)

(https://s2.postimg.org/67qq86tnt/IMG_0213.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lone modeller on May 02, 2017, 05:31:05 AM
Lovely engine. The Kaydett is also really good - saw it and commented on UAMF.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Des on May 02, 2017, 07:20:21 AM
Coming along beautifully Toby, looking forward to see more updates.

Des.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Suffolk Lad on May 02, 2017, 08:43:40 AM
That's a good start Toby, a great subject and lovely work so far  :)

Looking forwards to seeing it develop

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Rob_Owens on May 02, 2017, 11:33:54 AM
Toby, I vote for scheme 4. Don't get more "tarted up" than that brilliant blue fuselage, with those "Kabuki face-paint" Black/white stripes!! Also, it will fit right in displayed beside your West Point of the Air Stearman.
Regards, Rob
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 02, 2017, 07:08:20 PM
Lovely engine. The Kaydett is also really good - saw it and commented on UAMF.

Stephen.
Thanks Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 02, 2017, 07:10:25 PM
Toby, I vote for scheme 4. Don't get more "tarted up" than that brilliant blue fuselage, with those "Kabuki face-paint" Black/white stripes!! Also, it will fit right in displayed beside your West Point of the Air Stearman.
Regards, Rob
I'm looking at either 4,5 or 7 so your choice should be safe. have Pmed you btw.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Alexis on May 03, 2017, 09:57:09 AM
Will be following along on this one Toby  :)




Terri
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 04, 2017, 04:12:04 AM
Hi, you've got the 45% Aviattic lozenge sets - they are the correct ones... You'll need white backed bolts for the rib tapes, is that what you mean?
Regards
Richard
By bolts do you mean rolls of fabric? Sorry for being a bit dim. 
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 04, 2017, 03:56:13 PM
Yes - a bolt is a "run" of fabric, as opposed to the "joined" sets I do that simulate the bolts trimmed and sewn together as they were applied on wings.
Richard
Thanks Richard. Can you post a link to the items I need. I have ordered some more stuff from you a couple of days ago so will have to do a new order for them. More business for you. :)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 04, 2017, 03:57:58 PM
Engine now finished.Not happy about some of the spark pug leads(don't work when tired being the motto here) but I will position the engine so they won't be seen.
I haven't gone to the fine detail Lance has with replacing the thick pushrods with thinner ones though.

(https://s30.postimg.org/twzfwuo35/IMG_0216.jpg)

(https://s30.postimg.org/c87p58cc1/IMG_0219.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: pepperman42 on May 05, 2017, 12:49:11 AM
Looking forward to more great work on this one.

Steve
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Alexis on May 05, 2017, 10:08:49 AM
Nothing wrong with that engine she looks great  :)



Terri
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: dr 1 ace on May 06, 2017, 04:39:21 AM
Nothing wrong with that engine she looks great  :)



Terri



Ditto


Ed
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 06, 2017, 09:07:20 PM
Thanks all.
I've decided to go for the D.III 8349/18, Kest 4b September 1918 option. The red is up for debate. I've found Vallejo Fire red looks fairly close but would it have been Jasta red?

(https://s18.postimg.org/gk3huk455/IMG_0222.jpg)

(https://s18.postimg.org/pge9yhurd/IMG_0223.jpg)

The fire red is comparatively  dull but under flash it comes out a lot brighter. I have some Jasta red and that really is bright even without flash enhancement..
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Borsos on May 06, 2017, 10:11:23 PM
Looks fine. What is "Jasta Red"?
Borsos
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 06, 2017, 10:57:58 PM
Looks fine. What is "Jasta Red"?
Borsos
It's a Misterkit colour code.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Borsos on May 07, 2017, 12:14:19 AM
Looks fine. What is "Jasta Red"?
Borsos
It's a Misterkit colour code.
Thanks! I never tried misterkit paint yet.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Juan on May 07, 2017, 12:38:35 AM
Cool Toby, like where you are going with this.  Looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 07, 2017, 12:55:26 AM
Looks fine. What is "Jasta Red"?
Borsos
It's a Misterkit colour code.
Thanks! I never tried misterkit paint yet.
They've got a pretty comprehensive selection of WW1 paints
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: ondra on May 07, 2017, 03:42:43 AM
If the red is up for debate, I would say it is rather bright to my eyes, so I would rather tone it down a bit in this large scale.

Of course, it is fair to say that my perception might be distorted by the Kraplak I have used on my Albie. ;)

Very nice work so far, Toby, it looks like large scales are a great playground for you. It really looks great, sir!

Ondra
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lone modeller on May 07, 2017, 04:38:50 AM
I agree with Ondra - this is developing well. Looks like a very interesting build is on the way.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: RAGIII on May 07, 2017, 05:14:05 AM
Toby, the engine looks great as does the cowling! I think the Misterkit color is actually called Jasta 11 red. That being said I think there is a lot of wiggle room when it comes to color...JMHO,
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 07, 2017, 07:34:10 AM
RAG you are correct it is Jasta II red.
Engine and nacelle now joined together.

(https://s9.postimg.org/cg2501x33/IMG_0229.jpg)

Wood finish applied to inside of fuselage. I used Vallejo natural wood as an undercoat and then dry brushed their transparent woodgrain on top. I may well use a thin gloss varnish on top to put some shine into the wood.

(https://s9.postimg.org/elwfuk0jj/IMG_0231.jpg)

Also I've put backing on the handholds I'd cut out as the interior of the fuselage is not visible via them.
Once I've painted the outside I'll add a wash into them to give them some depth.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: RAGIII on May 07, 2017, 11:06:09 PM
Looking great Toby.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 08, 2017, 05:00:42 AM
One side of the fuselage interior done. I thought I'd photograph it on a white back ground but it confused the camera and looks darker than it is. Next time I'll adjust the exposure settings to compensate.....or use a darker background. :D

(https://s3.postimg.org/cjcwm9rhf/IMG_0234.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: GAJouette on May 08, 2017, 12:21:48 PM
  Toby,
Absolutely amazing work my old friend. Looking forward to more.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 08, 2017, 03:29:56 PM
The prop is now done.
First I painted on Vallejo natural wood.

(https://s12.postimg.org/qtyvgfpe5/IMG_0240.jpg)

Then I did a topcoat of Vallejo woodgrain

(https://s12.postimg.org/63hvyy6p9/IMG_0239.jpg)

I then masked it and repainted with natural wood

(https://s17.postimg.org/3xggz0n27/IMG_0242.jpg)

To finish I did a top coat of a mix of woodgrain and transparent orange

(https://s1.postimg.org/faym0c1kv/IMG_0244.jpg)

I will do a gloss varnish later once the decals are on. There are some blemishes but then wood has blemishes so that's my excuse for them.

Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Manni on May 08, 2017, 03:32:52 PM
Beautiful results, you show here. I will take this as reference for the Schuckert in my stash.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 08, 2017, 04:41:30 PM
Beautiful results, you show here. I will take this as reference for the Schuckert in my stash.
Bye,
Manni
Thank you very but there are better ones especially from Lance. I'm using his as my go to reference.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: RAGIII on May 08, 2017, 08:18:24 PM
Very well done prop! Looking forward to your next update.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Juan on May 08, 2017, 09:04:43 PM
Really nice looking results on the prop.  Fuselage also looking good.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lcarroll on May 08, 2017, 10:00:40 PM
    "Thank you very but there are better ones especially from Lance. I'm using his as my go to reference."

     I dunno, Toby, yours looks pretty nice to my eyes! (and unlike me you didn't go into all thumbs & fists mode and break it!) You are doing a splendid job on this, I'm really enjoying your progress.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lone modeller on May 09, 2017, 02:44:11 AM
That prop looks really good - great lamination effect. Looking forward to more updates.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Borsos on May 09, 2017, 03:43:15 AM
    "Thank you very but there are better ones especially from Lance. I'm using his as my go to reference."

     I dunno, Toby, yours looks pretty nice to my eyes! (and unlike me you didn't go into all thumbs & fists mode and break it!) You are doing a splendid job on this, I'm really enjoying your progress.
Cheers,
Lance

I think both of your builds are great and worth following when building a Siemens Shuckert, two very well build models, each in its own sense.
(I can't help but a teacher always stays a teacher  ;))

P. S. thanks for the hint with the mister kit paint. Sounds like worth a try!
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 09, 2017, 05:26:29 AM
Thanks all. That was my first attempt at making a "wooden" prop. I'll change a couple of  things next time re masking. Best to do one side at a time.
Most of the port side is now done but will add some plumbing later.

(https://s15.postimg.org/ifnd53wqz/IMG_0248.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: dr 1 ace on May 09, 2017, 08:23:19 AM
Progress is looking good Toby!
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 13, 2017, 04:31:28 PM
Port side interior done. Also the top of the front fuselage had the MGs attached and seat painted.

(https://s27.postimg.org/yzvnso7oj/IMG_0252.jpg)

One thing that is not mentioned at all in the instructions is the fitting of the an /oil gauge on top between the MGs although it is shown in a later diagram, The seat also is not drilled so that had to be dealt with and it hasn't gone too well but won't be too obvious once the seat has been fitted and belts added.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Juan on May 13, 2017, 08:30:15 PM
Great looking detail.  Looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Alexis on May 14, 2017, 11:21:29 PM
Looking super so far Toby !  :)



Terri
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: RAGIII on May 14, 2017, 11:54:27 PM
Terrific detail on the fuselage side. Looking forward to the next update.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: GAJouette on May 15, 2017, 12:09:04 AM
 Toby,
Beautiful work to date my friend. Looking forward to seeing more.
Highest Regards
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 15, 2017, 04:49:06 AM
Thanks chaps. Away for a few days in Devon and Cornwall sampling the local delights  :o
In the meantime here's an update. Fitted the gauge between the MGs

(https://s17.postimg.org/4ya56b4kv/IMG_0269.jpg)

Hopefully got a close match with UK intermediate blue by Vallejo

(https://s17.postimg.org/ewzp6j3e7/IMG_0273.jpg)

Fitted the controls. Not as difficult as I thought  although one of the levers was broken and had to be reglued. Couldn't quite get it straight but it won't show..I hope

(https://s17.postimg.org/87t5qii27/IMG_0274.jpg)

(https://s17.postimg.org/6u1iv7isv/IMG_0275.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Borsos on May 16, 2017, 04:30:09 AM
REALLY nice. Great choice of colors .
Borsos
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 20, 2017, 07:40:57 PM
Back from the west of England and now have finished painting the fuselage halves.

(https://s14.postimg.org/e4kwkx2cx/IMG_0283.jpg)

I have measured and marked for the ribbing on the top wing. I used 1mm masking tape and have varnished and applied a white primer on top. I will secure with coats of gloss varnish. I will do the same on the top of the other surfaces but as this is such a labour intensive job and I do have other things in my life I doubt I'll do the ribbing on the undersides.

(https://s2.postimg.org/578ihqt2x/IMG_0282.jpg)

(https://s4.postimg.org/3m2044lgd/IMG_0281.jpg)

Next will be the very tricky cutting and measuring of the lozenge decals. Measure ten time and cut once I think is the way forward here.



Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Juan on May 20, 2017, 10:16:46 PM
Super progress. looking forward to your lozenge wings, prep work looks great.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: dr 1 ace on May 21, 2017, 04:06:04 AM
Dittos to the above, moving along nicely !

Ed
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: RAGIII on May 21, 2017, 05:34:59 AM
Continuing to look great Toby! I am looking forward to seeing the Lozenge applied!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 21, 2017, 08:17:34 PM
Continuing to look great Toby! I am looking forward to seeing the Lozenge applied!
RAGIII
Yeah. Me too.  ;D
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Daryl_Huhtala on May 23, 2017, 12:52:02 PM
Picked up this kit Saturday at the Model Cave in Ypsilanti Michigan.
Aviattic and Pheon decals are on order. Now I'll sit back and learn from your travails.
I really like how your prop turned out
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Manni on May 23, 2017, 02:53:12 PM
Looks really,really good, Toby.
Cheers,
Manni
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on May 29, 2017, 11:23:45 PM
Had a break for a few days and now back on it with the fuselage closed up and most of the interior of the cockpit completed.

(https://s7.postimg.org/h3nwgz27f/IMG_0289.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/otuxe6xvp/IMG_0290.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/ng3aivymd/IMG_0291.jpg)

Off on a WW1 battlefield tour at the end of this week so not much will happen until the end of next week.

Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: petrov27 on May 29, 2017, 11:31:13 PM
Looking really good there - congrats on the close of the fuselage!
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lone modeller on May 30, 2017, 02:19:41 AM
If the rest of the build goes as wells this it will be a super model when finished.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Juan on May 30, 2017, 02:37:18 AM
Looking good Toby, looking forward to your next update.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on June 23, 2017, 11:49:04 PM
Sorry for the lack of updates. I've been away a lot and nothing has been done since my last one. Hope to get back on it soon.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: rhwinter on June 24, 2017, 12:35:21 AM
I can (eagerly) wait...
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: RAGIII on June 24, 2017, 02:54:59 AM
Beautiful work to date! Lovely wood tones and nicely detailed cockpit
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on October 10, 2017, 02:58:38 AM
Now the summer is over here I’m hoping to get back to my indoor activities so work should resume in about a fortnight when I return from a trip to taxy ride in Just Jane at the Lincolnshire Aviation Museum and circumnavigate Ullswater in a steam boat.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Alexis on October 14, 2017, 09:41:50 AM
Looking forward on the progress  :)




Terri
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: xmald on October 20, 2017, 03:19:29 AM
Keep the updates coming cause everything looks really good!
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on October 22, 2017, 05:26:12 PM
Last night I started to work out how to cut the lozenge decals from Aviatrix that will be used rather then the Roden offering. My eyes are still completely confused by trying to match  the patterns
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on October 25, 2017, 12:35:11 AM
Using Aviatic faded 5 colour lozenge for the top of lower wing.
The mojo has returned  :)

(https://s1.postimg.org/4exzc499ov/IMG_0634.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lone modeller on October 25, 2017, 03:37:58 AM
That is looking very good. Just hope that your eyes have recovered.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Juan on October 25, 2017, 04:53:38 AM
Looking good Toby.  Looking forward to your next post.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: GAJouette on October 25, 2017, 10:50:02 AM
 Toby,
I'm more impressed with this project each time I check in. Keep up the excellence my friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on October 31, 2017, 06:43:20 PM
Fuselage now attached. Next will be to put decals on underside and then rib tapes added.

(https://s1.postimg.org/6ijmehd7fj/IMG_0662.jpg)

(https://s1.postimg.org/3rak6ezgb3/IMG_0663.jpg)

It's good to be back at the bench. :D
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Des on October 31, 2017, 08:43:01 PM
Coming together beautifully Toby, I love the blue you used on the fuselage.

Des.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lcarroll on October 31, 2017, 10:06:57 PM
    It's coming along very nicely Toby! It's a pleasure to follow this Build as the one I did a year or so back is one of my favorite models and I will probably do another. This is Roden's best 1:32 offering in my judgement and a great example of how, with a little extra effort, their Kits can stand with the "best"!
    Great work, and I look forward to seeing the final product!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Juan on October 31, 2017, 10:14:09 PM
Hi Toby, glad to see you back on this beauty.  Looking really good.   :D
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: RAGIII on October 31, 2017, 11:32:45 PM
Coming together nicely Toby! You are tempting me to buy one of these to do as Udets Jasta 4 bird,
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on November 01, 2017, 12:52:52 AM
Coming together beautifully Toby, I love the blue you used on the fuselage.

Des.
Thanks Des, it's Vallejo MA UK Mediterranean blue.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: GAJouette on November 01, 2017, 10:47:04 AM
 Toby,
Keep up the great work my friend.She's a real beauty!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: jeroen_R90S on November 02, 2017, 06:11:39 AM
Looks good! I tend to struggle a bit with decals on those scalloped training edges, but yours look good! :)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Alexis on November 06, 2017, 01:43:41 AM
Very nicely done so far , she is shaping up wonderful  :)



Terri
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on November 08, 2017, 11:12:05 PM
Thanks all. I'm about to embark on the rib strips and can anyone tell me was there a strip placed on the leading edge of the wings?
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lcarroll on November 09, 2017, 01:26:30 AM
Toby,
     While building mine I studied a lot of photos of the aircraft; I concluded there was a leading edge strip on the wings. Whether that was common to all the examples seems another question.......... :-\
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on November 09, 2017, 02:48:35 AM
Toby,
     While building mine I studied a lot of photos of the aircraft; I concluded there was a leading edge strip on the wings. Whether that was common to all the examples seems another question.......... :-\
Cheers,
Lance
Thanks Lance. I suspected as much. Also I’m tempted to put some patchwork on the wings as repairs for gunshot damage but can’t seem to find any references for it. I know I’ve seen a picture of lozenge repaired but can’t find it.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on November 11, 2017, 01:53:49 AM
First lot of rib tapes done. Only 3 more surfaces to go :o

(https://s1.postimg.org/3ow2yiwq8v/IMG_0677.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: xmald on November 11, 2017, 09:22:32 PM
It looks very crisp, Toby. Are you going to blend in the lozenge surfaces a little bit?
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: jeroen_R90S on November 12, 2017, 06:30:17 AM
Looking good! What are you using for the rib tapes?

Jeroen
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on November 12, 2017, 07:01:27 AM
I used masking tape on the wing to give it a sliglty raised aspect then sprayed over with primer and gloss varnish.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on November 12, 2017, 07:02:19 AM
It looks very crisp, Toby. Are you going to blend in the lozenge surfaces a little bit?
Thanks. Not quite sure by what you mean by blend the lozenge surfaces?
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Juan on November 12, 2017, 09:59:28 AM
Your efforts are being rewarded, looking awesome Toby.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: jeroen_R90S on November 13, 2017, 06:45:11 AM
I used masking tape on the wing to give it a sliglty raised aspect then sprayed over with primer and gloss varnish.

Thanks! :)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on November 15, 2017, 07:07:16 AM
Bottom wing finished with the leading edge wing tape now fitted. A character building experience

(https://s8.postimg.org/z1v1buvmd/IMG_0755.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/jt53y39np/IMG_0757.jpg)

Now for the top wing. Fortunately I have Lance's excellent build to guide me on that department.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: RAGIII on November 16, 2017, 12:18:53 AM
Nice! I know what you mean by character building experience. Leading edge tapes are my biggest opportunity when building an aircraft with Lozenge wings.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on November 21, 2017, 08:13:42 AM
Most of the fuselage is finished. Unfortunately some of the nose panels didn't marry up as close as I would like but as they'll be under the top wing hopefully the discrepancies won't be too obvious. Tbh I'm not sure if it's down to my poor modelling skills or just  bad construction of the kit. Did anyone else experience the same when they built it?

(https://s8.postimg.org/4j1m3nwmt/IMG_0793.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/6aukyl351/IMG_0794.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/6nlz4r5z9/IMG_0797.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/tcb64bv2t/IMG_0799.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/qjhyjq9zp/IMG_0800.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/cptluop45/IMG_0801.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lcarroll on November 21, 2017, 09:01:55 AM
 "some of the nose panels didn't marry up as close as I would like"

   I had the same experience Toby. The upper deck around the gun mounts didn't mate well with the side or cheek panels and I have a slightly larger gap there then I'd like despite a lot of filing and sanding. Oddly the bottom "chin" panel from the Bren Gun PE Set fit like a glove!
   You are doing a terrific job on this; I've decided to keep my eyes peeled for another as a result of following your Build. I'm looking forward to her debut in Finished Models but probably not as much as you are! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Juan on November 21, 2017, 09:46:59 AM
Beautiful Toby, looking really good.  Looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lone modeller on November 22, 2017, 04:04:42 AM
That looks very good to me. Are you sure that anyone will notice the gaps? The finish is first class so hopefully that might distract people's attention.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: RAGIII on November 25, 2017, 08:01:30 AM
Excellent Toby! I love the scheme. I haven't buit this kit but you are tempting me to do a Udet bird!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on November 28, 2017, 05:46:09 AM
Thanks chaps. I've even tidied up my bench. ;D
I've painted the spinner and temporarily placed the prop in situ. Also put on rear tail prior to painting and decalling.

(https://s8.postimg.org/iaku0uhxh/IMG_0832.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/g60gzsb5x/IMG_0835.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/eqywb1un9/IMG_0837.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/krwl849jp/IMG_0839.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Alexis on November 28, 2017, 10:32:28 AM
Your build is really coming along very well Toby , really like what you are doing . Keep up the good work sir  :)




Terri
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on December 02, 2017, 07:19:45 AM
Tail now sorted. One thing about the lozenge decals if you make a mistake which I did you can put on a patch and it's hard to tell it's actually there such is the confusion to the eye. Can the eagle-eyed here spot it? I would imagine in real life that patches were added so hopefully what I've done is true to form.

(https://s8.postimg.org/fp3tqw56t/IMG_0862.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/st9e3lco5/IMG_0863.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/bfz3oqp2t/IMG_0861.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on December 04, 2017, 05:26:34 AM
Everything has been going very well until I came to apply the cross on the tail and I realised the markings I've chosen are for an early DIII(Serial u/k but in the 8340 - 8359/17 early production batch. Ltn. Joachim von Ziegesar, Jasta 15, May 1918} whereas the kit is for a later version. The rudders are completely different along with the cowling and spinner. There is a conversion set by Loon available but as I don't have another SS DIII I'm not going to purchase it. Most unlike me as I seem to buy just about anything to do with a kit I'm building. Too far down the road on this particular bird now.
Hey ho. I'm going to carry on finishing this new hybrid.  ::)
More decals added and the main struts painted and lozenge applied.

(https://s8.postimg.org/i18lwxcdh/IMG_0881.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/t0tt8k5dh/IMG_0882.jpg)

BTW when I'm done I'll have several spare options for the SS DIII by Pheon so if anyone wants them contact me and I'll pop them in the post at a later date.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: jeroen_R90S on December 04, 2017, 06:33:35 AM
If you hadn't told I would not have noticed!
Still looking for the repair patch, but I can't find it, so good job on that! :) I like the lozenge struts, too.

Very generous offer on the decals, too -hopefully it'll inspire someone to build one too. (not me, I love the work you're putting in it, but I'm not a fan of the machine itself!)

Jeroen
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on December 04, 2017, 06:45:04 AM
If you hadn't told I would not have noticed!
Still looking for the repair patch, but I can't find it, so good job on that! :) I like the lozenge struts, too.

Very generous offer on the decals, too -hopefully it'll inspire someone to build one too. (not me, I love the work you're putting in it, but I'm not a fan of the machine itself!)

Jeroen
Thanks Jeroen
Actually I’ve repaired the repair patch  :)
If you look at the trailing edge of the tail a couple of posts back and then look at the same place on my last post you should see it.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on December 11, 2017, 05:09:09 AM
Lots of fun starting to do the rigging and fitting the top wing. I used Gaspatch turnbuckles and using EZ line for the rigging.

(https://s8.postimg.org/pet3gea1x/IMG_0926.jpg)

Trying to get the top wing to align has bought up an issue that the main struts are too tall so have to be cut down.

(https://s8.postimg.org/vfqsdcemt/IMG_0923.jpg)

(https://s8.postimg.org/w59kppmw5/IMG_0924.jpg)

The smaller struts by the cockpit are too short so I cut off the originals and have added some new longer ones.

(https://s8.postimg.org/xx2jkobet/IMG_0921.jpg)

Also, the larger inner wing struts that go on to the fuselage don't fit well so I've enlarged the holes in the fuselage(as can be seen in the photos above) and added new horizontal locating stubs to replace the ineffectual vertical ones. Poor design by Roden or I've made a massive hiccup along the way re construction.
The holes at the top of the inner struts are where I intend to feed the rigging

(https://s8.postimg.org/g70uzunlx/IMG_0922.jpg)

I just hope my adjustments are accurate otherwise..........  :o




Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lcarroll on December 11, 2017, 06:32:18 AM
Toby,
   I had the same strut problems on my Build, I had to cut down the aft struts of the main bay "V" Strut assemblies and also add longer tubes to the aileron connecting rods behind the cabane struts. It's coming along nicely, you're almost there!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: RAGIII on December 12, 2017, 01:09:40 AM
Your rigging prep looks great! It looks as though you are on your way to having the struts worked out!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lone modeller on December 12, 2017, 04:03:31 AM
Good progress Toby. Struts are often a nightmare and the problem is they cannot be checked until the top wing is ready to be mounted, which has the ptential to cause even more problems. You seem to have solved them though - good luck with the final stages of a first class model. (The paint on the cowling looks so real!)

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on December 13, 2017, 02:45:08 AM
Toby,
   I had the same strut problems on my Build, I had to cut down the aft struts of the main bay "V" Strut assemblies and also add longer tubes to the aileron connecting rods behind the cabane struts. It's coming along nicely, you're almost there!
Cheers,
Lance
Just had a dry run and it’s still way out. The rear cabane  struts are forcing the top wing up so more trimming required.
Also I’m going to try and install the aileron connecting rods once the top wing is attached. Should be fun ....or not.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: RAGIII on December 15, 2017, 03:44:13 AM
Hang in there! You will get it right I am sure  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lcarroll on December 15, 2017, 07:15:55 AM
  "Also I’m going to try and install the aileron connecting rods once the top wing is attached. Should be fun ....or not."

Toby,
    I did mine the same way. Cut the new rods a bit longer then the required length, slide them into the hole in the fuselage, a drop of glue on the crank in the upper wing and snug it on. I used tweezers and it worked just fine!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on December 25, 2017, 06:33:22 PM
Been fairly busy in and out of the pub.
 Most of the rigging is complete and wings and U/C attached.
There have been issues and this is not my finest build by far.

(https://s10.postimg.org/muvryzim1/IMG_0938.jpg)

(https://s10.postimg.org/epdq0vcdl/IMG_0943.jpg)

(https://s10.postimg.org/qehpotvmh/IMG_0944.jpg)

(https://s10.postimg.org/h6ph841ex/IMG_0945.jpg)

(https://s10.postimg.org/4fbb1m72h/IMG_0948.jpg)

(https://s10.postimg.org/6jvo2oljt/IMG_0949.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: bobs_buckles on December 25, 2017, 07:33:24 PM
Looking good, Toby.
The finishing line is fast approaching... keep going!

Cheers,
Bob  ;)

Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: lone modeller on December 26, 2017, 04:56:31 AM
It may not be your finest but it still looks very good. Looking forward to seeing it finished.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on January 03, 2018, 01:57:07 AM
Thanks guys.
All done now and I'm glad its over.
I'll post more up in the finished model section.

(https://s13.postimg.org/88fxipeyf/IMG_1023.jpg)

(https://s13.postimg.org/gdxzgvy2f/IMG_1038.jpg)

Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: mgunns on January 03, 2018, 02:36:00 AM
That reallyl turned out neat.  Your time and effort paid off with an outstanding model.  Goes to show, with some effort the Roden Kits build into a nice model to fill the gaps that WNW hasn't filled.  Makes me want to get one.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: Juan on January 03, 2018, 03:13:21 AM
Beauty Toby, your persistence really paid off.
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: andonio64 on January 05, 2018, 01:24:13 AM
I agree with Juan, the result pays off the work you spent!
Great model Toby!

Antonio
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: ondra on January 05, 2018, 01:30:26 AM
Very nice work, Toby, congratulations!

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: RAGIII on January 05, 2018, 11:08:12 PM
Great build Toby. I have already added more in the completed model section.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III.
Post by: TobyCoulson on January 06, 2018, 05:05:04 AM
Thanks all for your very generous comments.