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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: petrov27 on February 20, 2017, 07:06:49 AM
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Well probably a bad idea to start a new kit but waiting on parts for my AEG and have been sick the last week with little or no energy but thought I would "dabble" with the new WNW offering a bit just to check it out:
Interior - lots of circles to fill though not difficult:
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/017_zpsfpouevoy.jpg)
Seat seems quite small - I ordered the Barracudacast resin seat thinking it might offer detail improvement - the resin seat is I believe known for being "small" yet it is bigger than the kit plastic:
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/013_zpsgwhfb39o.jpg)
On the Barracuda set, I did not expect the fine weaving work to be completely flashed over where it should be "open" - this is not how the seat is displayed online. It seems like it could be very dicey to remove without damaging the fine detail. Others who have the seat - is yours the same with all the resin-flash?
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/010_zpsgvgnw1iy.jpg)
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Petrov,
I have three seats from an order placed over a year ago and they are all completely "clean" as illustrated on-line. Perhaps the molds are getting old.......
Cheers,
Lance
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Petrov,
I have three seats from an order placed over a year ago and they are all completely "clean" as illustrated on-line. Perhaps the molds are getting old.......
Cheers,
Lance
Same here. I also have a new set just received and there's very light flash which came off with a brush.
Cheers,
Bud
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Which Camel are you doing?
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Nice to see the first build of the new Camel started, looking forward to seeing this one take shape.
As far as the Barracuda seat go I have half a dozen of them and some had a little bit of flash between the weave but it brushed off very easily, a very sharp No.11 scalpel blade will clean your seat very well.
Des.
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Thanks gents; this is the USAS boxing
Started cleaning the resin seat - the flash is thick to the point where a brush wouldnt touch it, using a sharp blade but its slow careful work. A bit frustrated with it to be honest - may just take a pass and use the kit plastic....
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I'd bring it to Roy's attention,he is a great chap to deal with in my experience-worth an email at least.
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I have to say that I am truly looking forward to this first build of WNW Camel here! Bummer about the resin seat!
RAGIII
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I hope you're feeling at bit better this week and it really is good to see a WNW Camel underway.
On the subject of the seat size, I always understood that they were pretty small and I'd probably go with the WNW representation.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Hi Petrov,
Looking forward to this ;)
I had the same issue with my resin seat - I had to get it off with a blade and couldn't do it without damaging the seat - I sent a picture to Barracuda and the replaced them with perfect one's with no flash - super helpful.
The plastic looks very.... beige!
Guy
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I shared this post with Roy at Barracuda Studios. Per Roy, if you drop him an email, he will gladly replace your seat.
Happy Modeling,
Jim
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Thanks gents - I attempted the clean up of the seat last night and was going fairly well until a twitch sent the super sharp blade through several of the important bits which pretty much ruined it.
I shall take the blame for that - I shoulda sent Roy a note it appears. I did send a note to them this morning via the email list on their website asking if the lower backed seat can be purchased on its own instead of as a "double" with a high-back seat. I really do not need the "high back" version seat - at least not several of them, whereas I have a couple Camels where I wouldnt mind the better seat assuming I can get them sans-flash...
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For what it's worth drawings of seats said to be used in the Camel indicate an overall height of 14-1/2 inches (that's from top of back to underside of seat base).
That would give a 1/32nd scale height of 0.453 of an inch (or 11.5mm).
How high is the WnW seat?
Regards
Russell
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Both seats appear to be right at 11mm in height. The WNW seat is maybe 1mm narrower though.
For some reason the WNW looks much smaller but its actually not all that much - maybe it is the seat-pad making it look short...
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I believe it is the curve of the seat throwing us off. The Barracude has a more U shape where WnW have more V if that makes sense.
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OK, so since my last post I was somewhat on a hiatus for modeling due to some major health issues - found out I have cancer, had surgery to remove a big section of my colon last week and now am in recovery for that. On the upside I am getting some of my mojo back and am back at the model bench the last couple days.
Doing the USAS version so have the Gnome built and ready to go:
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/IMG_2799_zpsd0slsefv.jpg)
Purchased another Barracuda resin seat - this one was also flashed over pretty badly but some slow tedious and careful sanding it from the back side of the open area worked. There is no padding on the top edge of this seat like on the WNW plastic version so I added it by application of multiple coats of Mr Surfacer:
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/IMG_2801_zpshttqw3zm.jpg)
Also working on the old AVIS Fokker DVIII - started with the wing. The moulding on this was pretty rough and it needed a ton of work with sanding sticks to fit together and refine it - actually made a heavy duty monster sanding block to deal with the issues :) . Also lots of filling on the underside. Still need to rescribe and add some details:
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/IMG_2786_zpszkefdufs.jpg)
Lastly I ordered some of the Hobbyzone modular workbench organizer units - first one is for brushes and tools - looks pretty good, hope to get them assembled in the next few days....
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/IMG_2784_zps7j9tom9v.jpg)
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Hello Patrick,
first I hope you will recover very fast and stay healthy.
The engine looks very good and I am looking forward to your next progress.
Manni
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Hi Petrov,
May your recovery be quick and your modeling plentyful.
Take care,
vB
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Wishing you a quick recovery and keeping you in my thoughts. Looking good in your progress of both builds.
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I keep my fingers crossed for a quick recovery of your health!
Borsos
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That sucks Petrov,I've had 2 resections and a stoma reversal in the last 6 years,I hope someone has discussed adjunctive
chemo with you.There are plenty of alternative things you can explore also,feel free to ask if I can help with any information.
Kindest regards,and compliments on your progress with the dual build.
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Your model is looking splendid Petrov but I was saddened to hear your news of the cancer, I hope you make a speedy recovery from your operation.
Des.
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The Camel is looking great as is your Avis EV wing! Just re- read your post and like the others I wish you a speedy nd complete recovery!
RAGIII
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Looking good Patrick; the E.V / D.VIII is really in the highlights of late, great choice with a new Camel! Here's to a speedy and complete recovery for you, a couple of good Kits to build along with that beautiful HobbyZone equipment (read envy!) will help a lot!
Cheers,
Lance
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Thanks all for the kind words of support!
Regarding the DVIII, the reproductions done for TVAL and others I believe have lozenge covered seats as below - does this still seem accurate to any experts here or should I go with a "leather" or linen seat cover?
http://www.collectors-edition.de/FokkerD7/2004-12/1603.jpg
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Thanks all for the kind words of support!
Regarding the DVIII, the reproductions done for TVAL and others I believe have lozenge covered seats as below - does this still seem accurate to any experts here or should I go with a "leather" or linen seat cover?
http://www.collectors-edition.de/FokkerD7/2004-12/1603.jpg
I have used lozenge to cover the areas in question. The DVIII that was/is restored in Italy had these components covered in (5) color lozenge. I think it is open to the modelers choice as there really are no hard line this is how it was done facts. JMHO,
RAGIII
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Thanks all for the kind words of support!
Regarding the DVIII, the reproductions done for TVAL and others I believe have lozenge covered seats as below - does this still seem accurate to any experts here or should I go with a "leather" or linen seat cover?
http://www.collectors-edition.de/FokkerD7/2004-12/1603.jpg
I have used lozenge to cover the areas in question. The DVIII that was/is restored in Italy had these components covered in (5) color lozenge. I think it is open to the modelers choice as there really are no hard line this is how it was done facts. JMHO,
RAGIII
Cool - thanks RAGIII - interesting that the seat would have 5 color when the exterior was 4 color on the DVIII (at least pretty sure they were all 4 color?)
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Lots of painting of Camel bits and wood grain done with new Griffin fast-drying oils. They do seem to dry very quick. Didnt come out as dark as I expected but will maybe do a tinted clear to darken a bit:
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/IMG_2812_zpsnmizdqae.jpg)
Also first of my Hobbyzone workbench organizer modules is built - looks like it will be quite helpful. Now wrapping up the next module that is three storage drawers.
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/IMG_2804_zpsuwknlzz5.jpg)
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Excellent paint work. I have found the Griffin oils are not as intense as the regular oils. I used to use raw sienna and burnt sienna a lot. Now it is more burnt sienna and burnt umber with the quick drying oils. Love your organizers!
RAGIII
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I am just amazed that here the morning after applying the Grffin oils they seem to be dry and ready for overcoating with a clear. My previous oil application was a week plus process. Do you find that a day later you have been able to clear without issue or should I give longer?
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Patrick,
Sorry to hear of your health issue my old friend. I wish a continued and speedy recover. Outstanding progress on both kits. You count on me following closely especially on the D.VIII. Looking forward to the next update.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Perhaps a little late but I have had NO Problem applying a clear coat within 24 hrs. of applying the Griffin Oils!
RAGIII
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Perhaps a little late but I have had NO Problem applying a clear coat within 24 hrs. of applying the Griffin Oils!
RAGIII
I have been using Uschi's Blitz Dry when I use oils and they dry within a few hours and clearcoated not long after. Great stuff and it only takes a drop.
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Been working on the Camel cockpit the last several days - amazing how much time you can sink into just this area on a WNW kit! Still more work to do and I always find these close up macro shots to be discouraging (sure highlights areas to improve) but I am getting closer to getting it done. Used HGW belts and a Taurus fuel glass on the instrument panel - that may have been the most difficult aftermarket item I have ever installed (the parts are just so tiny - amazing really):
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/IMG_2824a_zpsfq8yaivs.jpg)
Also started work on the Copper State URII for the Fok DVIII:
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/IMG_2818_zps8sozlovo.jpg)
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I'm glad you stuck with the small parts as that cockpit looks gorgeous!
EDIT: I forgot to acknowledge your comments about your recent health issues, I hope I didn't come off as rude! I hope modelling is as therapeutic for you as for me and that you're on the mend.
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Gorgeous cockpit to say the elast! I am looking forward to seeing the URII completed!
RAGIII
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Beautiful pit, looking forward to your treatment on that CSM engine (I am also leaning that way for my kit).
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Thanks again all for the positive comments!
Well today was resin engine fun day :)
Worked on the CSM Oberursel and also found that I had a CMK LeRhone in the stash that I had not built so I dove into both. I did not expect much from the CMK but I was extremely pleased with the detail on it and how easy it built up. The CSM URII went together OK as well but was slightly more difficult to assemble and the rocker arms are extremely fragile - I broke three in the assembly process. There is also a somewhat rough texture on the crankcase front, but I am hopeful that will smooth out with some paint application. Both engines fit fine in the Aviattic Fokker cowl. Both came with spark plugs but I am holding off to use some Taurus plugs that I have on order
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/IMG_2837_zpsbji7bs86.jpg)
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/IMG_2841_zpsbrcgbz4j.jpg)
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Both engines are looking great! Did you thin out the edges/inside of the cowling? Looks to be about 1/2 the thickness of mine. I guess I need to do some work :-[
RAGIII
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Hi RAGIII - that is the Aviattic cowl not the kit part - I think the Aviattic came that way (thin) - I dont recall sanding it out anyway...
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Hi RAGIII - that is the Aviattic cowl not the kit part - I think the Aviattic came that way (thin) - I dont recall sanding it out anyway...
My Mistake, I misread the original post!
RAGIII
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Engines and interior moving along nicely, await more pics !
Ed
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A bit slow going but some progress. Not in a rush on the DVIII as waiting for aftermarket decals, but did get a start on making new internal structure from plastic rod (the Avis parts are very rough) and my attempt to replicate the padding surround the cut-out in the upper wing:
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/IMG_2843_zpspbazqjcs.jpg)
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can you show how well these engines fit in the original cowl?
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Patrick,
Outstanding progress my old friend. Keep up the highest standards of Excellence. Looking forward to the next awesome update.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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can you show how well these engines fit in the original cowl?
Sure - here is the Oberursel (with Taurus plugs installed and paint begun)
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/IMG_2849_zps9uczudxy.jpg)
And the LeRhone (again with Taurus plugs etc)
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/IMG_2851_zpskbtjqhgp.jpg)
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Just a note - a new improved Fokker cowling is just about to be final tested before casting and will be available very soon.
Best wishes, Richard
Excellent - cannot wait to see that! I think it was mentioned Aviattic was also working on "cookie cutter" lozenge for the Fokker DVIII? Do you have a rough estimate on when those might be available?