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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: steveb on November 28, 2016, 04:58:13 AM

Title: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on November 28, 2016, 04:58:13 AM
I'm sure many of you have seen or built this kit, but here is the box art.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/box-s.jpg)

Here are the major parts after cleanup & a few modifications.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/parts-s2.jpg)

This kit is a somewhat recent issue as evidenced by the glossy decals & molding from possibly worn molds. Lots of flash on the tail & other parts, in addition to a bit of mold misalignment on some of the thinner parts like undercarriage struts.
After trying to remove the ledge on the undercarriage struts, I found that they looked too thin. I added pieces of stretched sprue along the edges.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-11-13-16-1-s.jpg)

I added many layers of CA glue between the sprue & strut to rebuild the shape of the strut. After quite a bit of filing & sanding they are starting to take shape.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-11-16-16-1-s.jpg)

I chose to make new exhaust pipes from styrene rod instead of trying to deal with the kit pieces. I added rectangular pieces of styrene to the cylinder heads to represent the flanges on the 200 HP Austro-Daimler engine.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-11-20-16-1-s.jpg)

Here, the exhaust stacks are being test fit. The fit is loose at this point & will be fine tuned later on. This makes some appear shorter than others.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-11-20-16-2-s.jpg)

I also chose to make a new tail skid faring out of styrene instead of modifying the one provided in the kit. I shortened & slightly modified the kit tail skid. The overall shape of the faring still needs to be fine tuned.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-11-27-16-1-s.jpg)

That is all for now, as I am awaiting photoetched parts to arrive to commence work on the interior. At this point I am not really certain which  pilot's plane that I will choose to represent. I was leaning towards Otto Forster 153.199, but time will tell.
(http://air.wz.cz/50-oeffag/albatros-d3-oef-153-199.jpg)

Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Wolf on November 28, 2016, 06:15:46 AM
Great start
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: IanB on November 28, 2016, 09:44:44 AM
Nice, I'll be following this one!

Ian
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Manni on November 28, 2016, 07:02:07 PM
Very interesting start. I will follow this thread.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Juan on November 28, 2016, 11:20:52 PM
Very nice start, looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: RAGIII on November 29, 2016, 01:13:17 AM
You have made a terrific start and your corrections/additions look awesome!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Borsos on November 29, 2016, 02:16:40 AM
Sharp eye fir the details, it is looking very nice!
Borsos
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: lone modeller on November 29, 2016, 03:06:46 AM
As others have written you have a good eye for detail so the improvements that you are making will turn this into another little gem.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on November 29, 2016, 04:25:56 AM
Thanks! I appreciate the kind words! Hopefully, there will be more progress soon.

Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Gisbod on November 29, 2016, 04:32:31 AM
Nice one Steve,

Looking forward to seeing how this one comes  along.

Guy
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Monty on November 29, 2016, 06:03:41 AM
You are busy with some great detailing and refinement of the kit parts, Steve! I am very impressed, and I'm sure this will go well! I'm pretty sure your modifications to the undercarriage legs have strengthened them up considerably as well... Nicely Done! Regards, Marc
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: jeroen_R90S on November 30, 2016, 06:34:54 AM
Nice work! I built the S.253 in an Encore box, which save me (some) hassles with regards to details and came with Cartograf printed decals. But only for one version... I see you have the datafile already, the wing struts needed some shortening on mine.
That tailskid especially really looks nice!
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: GAJouette on November 30, 2016, 07:03:17 AM
 Steve,
Excellent progress to date my friend. Looking forward to following along.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: UFAG on December 09, 2016, 05:22:17 AM
Will follow..!!
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on December 25, 2016, 04:33:34 AM
Thanks for the kind words!
Slow going, but making tiny steps in progress.
After scratch building a new tail skid faring, I ran across a build log online, & the builder mentioned the OEF Datafile drawings showed an incorrect faring shape. DOH! I knew that it was different than the German version, but assumed the drawing was correct. So, I found a nice side photo of Koloman's D.III, brought the image into CAD, & scaled it to somewhat match the Datafile drawings.
Here, you can see my first version compared to the drawing.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-24-16-1s.jpg)

Here it is after adding styrene & CA glue to rebuild the contours.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-24-16-2s.jpg)

I received the Part PE set for this plane a few weeks ago, & have been working on getting things to fit. After losing one of the pieces for the control stick , I chose to scratch build the control column using only the PE grip. I also scratch built the seat & added the floor beneath it. Today, it was a matter of seeing how things fit together so far. The PE frame is all glued together with CA glue, but the steering pieces are temporarily glued with Testor's clear part cement. The seat needs to be moved forward a bit, as well.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-24-16-3s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-24-16-4s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-24-16-5s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-24-16-9s.jpg)

The fuselage halves are temporarily held together with spots of CA glue so I can continuously remove the framework & make adjustments.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-24-16-6s.jpg)

As with many kits, the engine cover on the exhaust side was incorrect. Finding photos of the real thing has been difficult & I am not sure if the 153 series that I am building had a different engine cover than the 253 series. Some non-253 planes show a small lip beneath the exhaust on the 1st cylinder while the 253 machines have no lip & a larger opening, possibly because of the larger engine.
The kit piece had an indentation & lip below the exhaust ports. I added styrene & CA glue to this area to build it up, & re-positioned the lip on the front, tapering into nothing as it got to the 4th cylinder. I still need to work on it to straighten that line a bit more. The engine seems to be sitting too high as well, but that can be adjusted easily.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-24-16-7s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-24-16-8s.jpg)


Merry Christmas to all of you!
Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Juan on December 25, 2016, 05:20:16 AM
She is coming along beautifully.  Love what you have done thus far.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: uncletony on December 25, 2016, 05:34:11 AM
Really nice work Steve!
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Gisbod on December 25, 2016, 05:37:08 AM
Lovely!

Hard to believe that's a 1/72nd interior.

Guy
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: RAGIII on December 26, 2016, 03:05:59 AM
Steve,
I have never had the results you have achieved trying to use PE interior framing. Outstanding work . Your seat and floor are terrific!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Cajun on December 26, 2016, 09:42:07 PM
Looking great Steve!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: ondra on December 27, 2016, 03:09:09 AM
Great job on the PE parts, Steve, well done!

Cheers

Ondra 
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on December 27, 2016, 01:04:46 PM
Thanks to all of you! I studied PrzemoL's photos of the frame work on his blue & red D.III posted a while back to get the idea of how it should look. Also, all of those nice photos of Koloman's plane during the building process really came in handy.

Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Wolf on December 28, 2016, 01:09:35 AM
Wow, this is awesome:
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on December 29, 2016, 06:40:57 AM
I have vacation time that needs to be used before the end of the year, so I'm taking off from work for the rest of this week. This enables me to spend more time building for a few days.

Yesterday, I built the gas tank using Koloman's photos as reference.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-28-16-4s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-28-16-5s.jpg)

Here it is in the frame. I also added the ammo bin & framework behind it for test fitting purposes.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-28-16-6s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-28-16-7.jpg)

Only a small portion of the Schwarzlose guns will be seen once the model is closed up, & my plans were to just add bits of plastic to represent them. But, as usual, I got a bit carried away. I worked on one last week, adding this & that, & ended up knowing that there was no way I was going to do all of this again on another one. So, I made a mold & cast some resin copies. Here are the copies with pieces of 0.011" wire inserted for the barrels. I took quite a few photos, but not many of looked too good because of the translucency of the resin on such small pieces.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-28-16-1s.jpg)

Here they are after a wash of gray watercolor which made them show up in photos a bit more.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-28-16-2s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-28-16-3s.jpg)

Ammo bin details & other interior details await that I hope to get to soon.

Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: jeroen_R90S on December 29, 2016, 06:54:31 AM
Truly gorgeous work....!
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: RAGIII on December 30, 2016, 09:36:32 PM
This one is really coming together in a spectacular way. Excellent progress!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: uncletony on December 30, 2016, 10:45:42 PM
great stuff Steve -- nice solution to the schwarzlose
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on December 31, 2016, 01:58:44 PM
Thank you all, still a ways to go.

(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-30-16-1s.jpg)

I see a few PE pieces bent out of shape during the test fitting of the guns, but those will be corrected.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-30-16-2s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-12-30-16-3s.jpg)

Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: uncletony on December 31, 2016, 04:16:44 PM
nice!
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Juan on December 31, 2016, 10:32:04 PM
Amazing work, looks larger than 1/72.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: RAGIII on December 31, 2016, 10:35:10 PM
Incredible work in any scale! Your seat, tank, floor, Machine Guns, and ammo cans are fantastic!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: andonio64 on January 02, 2017, 11:45:09 PM
Really beautiful Steve, I agree with Juan, it looks like an 1/48th work
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: fixman on January 03, 2017, 12:45:39 AM
Nice work indeed.. in scale 1/72 outstanding
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Post by: TobyCoulson on January 03, 2017, 12:55:09 AM
Stunning work. Attention to detail in that scale is remarkable.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Manni on January 03, 2017, 01:56:09 AM
Great work, Steve. Outstanding.
Capeau,
Manni
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: lcarroll on January 03, 2017, 02:16:39 AM
   I somehow missed this until now Steve; what an impressive bit of Modelling it is! Very nice work and as several others have commented great attention to detail. Your results on the fabricated parts are remarkable considering their size in this scale, great work and I'll be following from here on!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: coyotemagic on January 03, 2017, 05:10:35 AM
You're off to a brilliant start on this little beauty, Steve!  Looking forward to following along.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on January 06, 2017, 02:35:19 PM
Thank you!! I appreciate the kind words, & as I've said before, you people that post here have taught me so much!

I created a spent cartridge bin ( I suppose that is what it is called) from an aluminum soda can. I measured the space that it is supposed to fit in, & drew it in CAD. I printed a few copies & transferred the design to the thin soda can with a hobby knife. After that, it was cut to shape with scissors, bent & glued together with CA glue.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-01-05-17-1s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-01-05-17-3s.jpg)

I have been able to paint a few things this week, namely the gas tank, wooden frame work & seat cushion.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-01-05-17-4s.jpg)

The gas tank was done with Alcad polished brass over Tamiya gloss black. I came back afterwards with a silver pencil color on the edges & other places.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-01-05-17-5s.jpg)

Wooden parts were done with Tamiya Desert Tan & white topped with clear yellow & orange after streaking with a water color pencil.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-01-05-17-6s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-01-05-17-8s.jpg)

The cushion was done with a light reddish-brown base coat & topped with a bit of burnt umber oil paint. My first time trying oils, & I still have much to learn.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-01-05-17-9s.jpg)

Thanks again,
Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Wolf on January 06, 2017, 10:16:24 PM
I am sitting here in front of my monitor and still can not believe what I see. What an amazing work.

I can not imagine how one can do such tiny parts.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Juan on January 06, 2017, 11:52:29 PM
Incredible detail at this scale (or any other).  Wonderful work!!!!
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Post by: ALBATROS1234 on January 06, 2017, 11:56:11 PM
Very nice Braille scale albie
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Post by: coyotemagic on January 07, 2017, 01:48:14 AM
Gorgeous work, Steve!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: lone modeller on January 07, 2017, 03:40:11 AM
Amazing work in God's Own Scale.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: gedmundson on January 07, 2017, 04:30:03 AM
Incredible work - hard to believe it's 1/72 scale.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Borsos on January 07, 2017, 07:53:11 AM
Wooooooow! Mate, that's First Rate Modeling!
Borsos
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: IanB on January 07, 2017, 09:44:59 AM
Absolutely outstanding!

Ian
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: boggie on January 07, 2017, 10:41:58 AM
Very well done Steve. Micro modelling at its finest.  :)
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on February 02, 2017, 02:12:17 PM
Phew, it's been a while! Thanks to you all for the encouraging words!! I haven't stopped working, things just seem to take so long. :-\ But, I guess that small steps are better than no steps at all.

From the top, the seat & cushion which have been seen here before, but now mounted to the horizontal pipe supports.

Schwarzlose guns painted & treated with a bit of graphite (which barely shows up in this photo)

Compass made from a few PE pieces in the Part set, but modified a bit by adding a styrene body & wire mounting stem to fit on the floor. I also redrew the compass face & printed it on clear acetate.

On the middle left is a square with the moiré dots, which is the port side control panel. I drew that up in CAD & printed it on clear acetate. I added a piece of Bare Metal Foil on the backside & added valve handles made from wire.

In the middle is the starboard throttle control (I think). Made from various pieces of wire, styrene & though it's hard to see, there is a wooden knob there, too.

For the control stick assembly, I used the Part PE control handle, & scratch built the rest from styrene, brass & wire.

The seatbelts are a combination of foil, paper, wire & paint.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-02-01-17-1s.jpg)

I edited the Part artwork for the gauges in Photoshop a bit to make it look like those gauges on Kolman's plane. Those were printed on clear acetate & sandwiched between the PE pieces.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-02-01-17-2s.jpg)

I used the usually unwanted side effect of too much Tamiya flat base to create part of the splotchy look of the material on the intake manifold. Magnetos from another Roden kit were added. Although practically invisible in this photo, I added the "T" shaped levers to the valve spring tops.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-02-01-17-3s.jpg)

That's all for now, thanks for looking!
Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: uncletony on February 02, 2017, 02:25:23 PM
That's looking good Steve!
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on February 02, 2017, 02:45:19 PM
Don't know how I missed this one...Fantastic!

Even if it is 1/16th scale.... ;)

Dan
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Juan on February 02, 2017, 09:05:54 PM
Great detail, especially in this scale.  Glad to see your update and looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: lcarroll on February 03, 2017, 12:56:44 AM
    This just keeps getting better Steve. The cockpit components, especially the compass and throttle assembly are incredible, you must have a cage full of tiny trained spiders that construct these remarkably small components with such detail! The framed cockpit module with the instruments installed simply blows my mind! :o
    Really great work, this is going to be an outstanding model.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Manni on February 03, 2017, 05:22:18 PM
Woooah! Fantastic model-art-brainsurgeon.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Jorgo on February 03, 2017, 05:39:34 PM
So far one of the best models in 1/72 scale I've ever seen, absolutely excellent!!

Jörg
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Wolf on February 03, 2017, 07:18:21 PM
I second this. Absolut marvelous.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: TobyCoulson on February 03, 2017, 07:53:48 PM
This just gets better and better.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Borsos on February 03, 2017, 11:02:46 PM
Wow, what a great little piece of art and a very clever way to paint the intake manifold using too much Tamiya flat base!
Borsos
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on February 06, 2017, 09:22:56 AM
As always, thanks so much! Still lots to learn but making some progress.
I was able to get quite a bit of the interior pieces mounted to the frame this weekend. The guns are temporarily glued in place with Testor's clear parts cement, & once I figure out how to attach the blast tubes to the engine, will be permanently attached. Not much, if any of this will even be seen once everything it closed up. The engine is not yet glued in place.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-02-05-17-1s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-02-05-17-2s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-02-05-17-3s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-02-05-17-5s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-02-05-17-6s.jpg)

How could these planes even fly with such crooked frame work?  :P Oh well, at least those bent PE pieces will not be visible for long.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-02-05-17-7s.jpg)

I still need to figure out how to make the empty casing chutes for the guns. In a data file photo, I can see one of them on a plane equipped with only one gun. I guess that I may have to make up what it looked like with both guns.

Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: uncletony on February 06, 2017, 09:35:24 AM
awesome! Love the seat!
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Juan on February 06, 2017, 10:02:06 AM
Stunning work (even with bent framing,  ;D), looks like it is bigger than 1/72 with your detail.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: coyotemagic on February 06, 2017, 12:16:27 PM
Spectacular interior work, Steve!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: RAGIII on February 06, 2017, 01:51:11 PM
Stunning interior work.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: andonio64 on February 06, 2017, 05:50:43 PM
Fantastic, Steve!
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Post by: hadzi on February 07, 2017, 05:47:30 AM
Stunning work!
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Syd Solo on February 13, 2017, 07:46:08 PM
Steve

You bring joy to my heart with such sublime work in this classic scale.

Cheers

Syd
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Rufus on February 14, 2017, 08:33:56 AM
Hello Steve, I really like the interior you have produced from the PE set. The accessories you have added are jewel like. I am new to the forum and this is in fact my very first post. I have been making a lot of 1/72 scale Albatros aircraft recently. They are no where near this standard and seeing your work has stopped me in my tracks.   I find it inspirational to see what can be done and so would like to see what I can do.  I am coincidentally making the Roden D III but straight from the box.  I have a very basic question to ask if you don't mind and that is who makes the internal framing for your kit and where can I get it from. It does look slightly intimidating but I would love to have a go at it.  Thank you very much for posting your work it has changed the way I look at my work.

Rufus. 
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on February 15, 2017, 04:49:15 AM
Thanks to you all for the kind words! No updates to post, but I am still working on it a bit every day.

Rufus, welcome to the forum! The photo etched pieces are made by a company called Part, located in Poland. On forum member PrzemoL's recommendation, I ordered them from Jadar Hobby shop, also in Poland. I don't remember exactly how long it took for delivery, maybe 1 month or so? http://www.jadarhobby.pl/samoloty-172-1144-c-18_1358.html?filter_id=10 (http://www.jadarhobby.pl/samoloty-172-1144-c-18_1358.html?filter_id=10)
I believe Part makes photo etch sets for many of the Roden kits. Here are the 2 that I purchased. Quite a few parts on there! The major differences between the D.II (Oeffag) & D.III are the radiators & doors for the gun access on the Oeffag models. Everything else is identical.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/pe.jpg)

Here is a link to PrzemoL's post which is where I first became aware of these parts.
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=1799.0 (http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=1799.0)

Thanks,
Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Rufus on February 15, 2017, 07:32:13 AM
Thank you for the information Steve. I have had a look at the information and the sets of PE that Part produce, very interesting I will need to have a good look at them all.  I will definitely order a set and see what happens. 
Andrew. 
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: GAJouette on February 15, 2017, 09:49:30 AM
 Steve,
Outstanding work on her internals my friend. It always amazes me to see such awesome work in 1/72 scale. I tip my hat to you. Keep up the excellence my friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Rufus on February 22, 2017, 01:17:56 AM
Hi Steve, I have the Albatros DIII on order now and the Pfalz DIII so I will see what happens. 

Rufus.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on February 22, 2017, 01:24:03 PM
Thanks, Gregory! Rufus, good for you!!

Very small update: I permanently mounted the guns & made the casing chutes that route spent casings into the small container.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-02-21-17-1s.jpg)

A while back, I glued the fuselage halves together & filled the seam where it would be visible in the cockpit opening. Then, the insides were painted. I left the portion under the engine unglued so that I could get the framework inside later with hopefully, not too many fit problems.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-02-21-17-2s.jpg)

Exhausts painted a bit. Depth of field is not easy at this scale.  :P
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-02-21-17-3s.jpg)

Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: PrzemoL on February 22, 2017, 06:23:45 PM
Spectacular progress, Steve. I am watching your build with great interest.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: jeroen_R90S on February 22, 2017, 09:44:25 PM
It seems almost a shame to slide that interiour into the fuselage... looks gorgeous!
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Juan on February 22, 2017, 09:47:45 PM
It seems almost a shame to slide that interiour into the fuselage... looks gorgeous!

Agree 100% and the exhausts are beautiful, just rendered beautifully.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: RAGIII on February 22, 2017, 10:36:28 PM
It seems almost a shame to slide that interiour into the fuselage... looks gorgeous!

Agree 100% and the exhausts are beautiful, just rendered beautifully.

I agree with both comments! The exhausts look perfect !
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on February 24, 2017, 01:24:13 PM
It seems almost a shame to slide that interiour into the fuselage... looks gorgeous!

Agree 100% and the exhausts are beautiful, just rendered beautifully.

I agree with both comments! The exhausts look perfect !
RAGIII


It seems almost a shame to slide that interiour into the fuselage... looks gorgeous!

Agree 100% and the exhausts are beautiful, just rendered beautifully.

Well, dang! Thank you! Exhausts are watercolor rust & graphite pencil over flat black. Thanks to PrzemoL for making me more aware of the uses of watercolors on models!

Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Wodehouse on February 24, 2017, 10:57:22 PM
This is superb work Steve.  Incredible detail for that scale and indeed even for a bigger scale.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on March 19, 2017, 04:41:20 AM
It's been a while since I posted anything, but I have been working on it a little every day & more on the weekends. A couple of weeks ago, I glued on the vertical stabilizer & tailskid faring. I used layers of CA glue to smooth the transitions to the fuselage,
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-03-05-17-1s.jpg)

After a few coats of primer.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-03-18-17-7s.jpg)


I had been working on the propeller during that time as well. I was going for a bit less contrast between the laminations & more of an overall varnished look. It ended up being quite orange, not exactly what I wanted, but I decided to leave well enough alone. After the Tamiya clear orange/yellow mix dried for a week or so, I sprayed coats of Testors Acryl gloss clear. I chose Acryl over Tamiya clear because I find that it dries to a harder finish. Everything looked great until the next day when I noticed cracks all over it. I tried sanding with 1500 grit paper, but I started sanding through the layers of orange/yellow. In theory, I had apparently not let the Tamiya paint dry enough before spraying the Acryl. In other words, the Acryl dried faster than the Tamiya underneath it which is a recipe for disaster.

So, I stripped it & sprayed another Desert Tan & white mix as the base. Then, I used Prismacolor colored pencils for the grain as Bertl described in his process a while back. I would do one face, then spray Acryl flat clear over it to protect it. Each day, I repeated this until all 4 sides were done. I liked the overall look, so I decided not to use any transparent colors on it. I sprayed quite a few coats of Acryl gloss, sanding between some of the coats to reduce orange peel. After the final coats, I polished with polishing cloths.

I still need to add a Jaray decal, but I'm not too fond of the one included in the Roden kit. Looking at the photos I realize that I forgot to mention making that little doo-dad on top of the camshaft cover by "machining" plastic rod chucked in my Dremmel. The molded in kit pieces was a domed blob.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-03-18-17-1s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-03-18-17-2s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-03-18-17-3s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-03-18-17-5s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-03-18-17-4s.jpg)

As of today, the CDL parts have their base coat.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-03-18-17-8s.jpg)

Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: coyotemagic on March 19, 2017, 01:55:52 PM
Spectacular work on the interior and engine, Steve! And that prop!  Holy Cow!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Jorgo on March 19, 2017, 06:57:13 PM
So good, I can' find words to describe it! The prop is the best I've ever seen in 1:72 scale, you must have a very steady hand

Best regards,
Jörg
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: malaula on March 19, 2017, 07:21:59 PM
As Jörg said,by far the best prop ever seen in that scale!Incredible!!
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: andonio64 on March 19, 2017, 07:24:21 PM
The prop is a dream !!!!
WOW

Antonio
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: IanB on March 19, 2017, 11:03:13 PM
Gobsmacked! Absolutely gorgeous!

Ian
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: lcarroll on March 19, 2017, 11:35:47 PM
    Incredible detail for the scale (in any scale!!) This is simply outstanding work, Steve!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Manni on March 20, 2017, 07:11:43 PM
Spectacular, Steve!
The prob looks great. And the interieu is very,very good.
Manni
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Juan on March 20, 2017, 11:01:48 PM
As stated by others, simply outstanding, especially that prop.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: RAGIII on March 20, 2017, 11:20:25 PM
Spectacular work on the interior and engine, Steve! And that prop!  Holy Cow!
Cheers,
Bud

I agree with my Amigo! Just add another Holy COW!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on March 22, 2017, 03:18:28 AM
Thanks so much to all of you! I look at the prop & think, "Eh... that part could have been smoother, that other section could have been darker...blah, blah." But, overall, I like it, & I'm pleased that I could fit all 9 laminated layers on there without too many mess ups.

Working on summer camo techniques & may have it somewhat worked out. Time will tell.

Thanks again,
Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Borsos on March 23, 2017, 02:57:00 AM
Steve, this is really a masterpiece. I love your work on the tiny PE interior which makes forget that it's just 1/72. And the Prop is spectacular. Bravo!
Borsos
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on April 03, 2017, 07:58:38 AM
Thanks, again!

Today, I finally moved the framework into the fuselage. The fit was so tight that no glue was necessary. After a lot of trial fittings with the engine cover, the engine was also glued into place.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-04-02-17-1s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-04-02-17-4s.jpg)

 The nose piece had a bit of fit resistance, even though I had previously thinned down some areas on the inside. More grinding & scraping on the inside of it, & I think that it will fit nicely once glued in place. The "metal" tones don't exactly match, but they will be over-painted with summer camo later.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-04-02-17-2s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-04-02-17-3s.jpg)

A while back, I added some rib shading on the undersides of the wings with pencil colors & then more layers of CDL paint. I plan on having green mottled upper surfaces, so I'm not really sure how much of the rib shadow would appear in real life because of the upper painted surfaces preventing light from passing through.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-04-02-17-5s.jpg)

I also made an inkjet decal for the propeller, & it didn't come out too bad.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-04-02-17-6s.jpg)

Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: RAGIII on April 03, 2017, 08:05:49 AM
If I have ever seen a better 1/72nd scale Albatros I certainly do not remember it! Just awesome work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Borsos on April 03, 2017, 08:13:14 AM
Wow, this one is getting better and better. You have an incredible eye for the detail and I echo Rick: The best 1/72 Albatros I've ever seen!
best wishes
Borsos
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Radarman on April 03, 2017, 09:49:35 AM
Simply Shocking! And to think it's 1/72nd scale. Wow.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: pepperman42 on April 03, 2017, 11:02:15 AM
Beautiful work!!

Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Juan on April 03, 2017, 10:40:57 PM
I echo all the above comments, simply beautiful.   :D
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: lone modeller on April 04, 2017, 08:09:43 AM
When I looked at the photos of the engine and propellor I thought that it was WNW and 1/3 scale. When I looked again I nearly fainted!! Words fail to describe that……

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on April 25, 2017, 01:32:11 PM
Thanks as always! I appreciate the kind words & encouragement!

I have been painting on the fuselage over the past week or 2. I started with the a mix of Tamiya Desert Yellow & white for the base, followed by grain drawn on with a burnt sienna watercolor pencil. I still need to refine my wood grain drawing technique, as someone on Facebook pointed out that the trees must have been huge back then judging from the size of my grain.  :P Oh well, I'll keep trying, plus much of this will be hidden with summer camouflage.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-04-18-17-1s.jpg)

After a few passes with a damp brush, the grain was softened a bit & also gave the "wood" a nice tint. Watercolor washes were added here & there to tint various panels & lines.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-04-18-17-2s.jpg)

After a few light coats of Testors Acryl clear gloss, I removed the masking.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-04-19-17-1s.jpg)

Over the weekend, I added the various PE parts. One thing I tried was using matte aluminum Bare Metal Foil for the larger metal pieces on each side of the lower wing. After applying, I created swirl marks using 1500 grit sandpaper, then finished up with flat clear to subdue the shine. Although it is a bit hard to see in the photos, it looks almost right to the naked eye.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-04-24-17-1s.jpg)

Small strips of leather combing still need to be painted, but that will be after the green summer camo.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-04-24-17-2s.jpg)
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-04-24-17-3s.jpg)

Thanks again,
Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on April 25, 2017, 02:07:25 PM
really nice build steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: andonio64 on April 25, 2017, 03:06:22 PM
Really interesting technique on the woodgrain Steve...
And beautifully realization!

Antonio
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: ondra on April 26, 2017, 04:02:33 AM
I can only echo Bud, Rick and Borsos - this really is the best 1/72 Albatros I have ever seen, my hat is off to your skills and attention to detail.

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Juan on April 26, 2017, 04:23:13 AM
Your work on this aircraft is outstanding, that it can be achieved in this scale is amazing.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 26, 2017, 07:24:09 AM
Spectacular wood. As is the rest of your model, Steve.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Manni on April 26, 2017, 03:13:02 PM
Wow, Steve. That is unbelievable. I must say your wood looks very concincing and I think the size of the grain it is not too big. Otherwise you won't be able to see it anymore.
Manni
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: RAGIII on April 26, 2017, 10:54:23 PM
Your DIII is continuing to be an education in what "Can" be done in 1/72nd scale! I love the wood grain!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: IanB on April 26, 2017, 11:14:11 PM
Beautifully done woodwork! I did try something similar with Uschi's woodgrain decals but couldn't even get that right!

Ian
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: lone modeller on April 27, 2017, 02:50:30 AM
I wholly agree with the others - what you are achieving is just amazing. My jaw aches from constantly hitting the desk every time i look at this thread.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on April 27, 2017, 04:36:19 AM
Thanks so much to all!!
I was a bit intimidated by oil paint & the drying times, but drawing with a pencil comes more naturally to me. Thanks, Przemo, for making me aware of what can be done with watercolor washes. Still so much to try & learn.

I am still not 100% sure which plane I will represent, but it will have some sort of summer camo. I am almost ready to start, but now, I am confused as to where the paint on the fuselage actually ends. It is very had to distinguish in historical photos, & most profile renderings give the impression that the fuselage is completely covered. Some, like Joseph Kiss' plane show otherwise, with the green stopping on the lower longitudinal panel line. I have seen models built both ways, & seeing Bud's recent summer leaf camo on his D.III is what made me realize that what I was planning to do may not be correct.
The Roden instructions have a note saying that the summer camouflage "covered almost fuselage except underside." Hmmm... ???

I came across a few photos this morning that possibly answer this. I see a demarcation line between the green & wood or light blue. Don't know for sure.
(http://www.feudal.cz/files/blahaDIII06.jpg)
(http://www.feudal.cz/files/blahaDIII05.jpg)

Does anyone have any insight into this?

Thanks,
Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Wolf on May 02, 2017, 05:17:04 PM
When I see your work, two things happen: I am in deep awe and completely deligthed.
Wonderfull work
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: boggie on May 02, 2017, 08:06:23 PM
Outstanding modelling Steve.

I find your woodgrain technique particularly intriguing.

My first thought when I saw your initial pencil work was, oh, that's interesting but looks more like a contour map than woodgrain.

But after your damp brush and wash technique, what a surprising transformation!

Most excellent!

Thank you for the education, I am certainly going to try your technique.
 
Bring on the next installment, please!  :)


Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: steveb on May 14, 2017, 04:40:14 AM
As always, thanks so much for the comments.

Last weekend, I started on the task of covering almost everything with green camo. I had previously experimented with Tamiya XF-70 to figure out a technique for applying the paint. After looking at test parts for a while, I felt that the green was too green, almost like a "green" Crayola crayon. I picked up 3 different colors at the hobby store & decided to use Tamiya XF-11. Almost like a darker olive drab with more forest green mixed in. I cut away pieces of a 1/4" foam brush so that the shape is more like a small irregular ball. I thinned the paint slightly with water & started working on the upper wing.
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-05-07-17-1-s.jpg)

I sprayed a few coats of semi-gloss clear on it this past week, & sanded out a few blemishes here & there. Here is how it looked this morning, before adding coats of Future in preparation for decals. I have a few other decals from the same sheet that I will test on scrap pieces to see whether or not they hold the Roden curse in them. :o
(http://sbkustoms.com/shop/planes/albatros%20diii%20oeffag/oeffag_albatros_diii-05-13-17-1-s.jpg)

Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Wolf on May 14, 2017, 04:45:05 PM
Absolute convincing paintjob!

I know this must be, but it's a pitty that now all the beautiful woodwork is gone. Nevertheless, great progress.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: andonio64 on May 14, 2017, 06:25:48 PM
I agree with Wolf, but in any case the paintwork on the camo looks very good!

Antonio
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Juan on May 14, 2017, 09:07:55 PM
Great looking camo, especially in this scale.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: RAGIII on May 15, 2017, 12:10:17 AM
Nicely done camo!  Sad to see the beautiful wood tones gone .
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: GAJouette on May 15, 2017, 12:12:54 AM
Steve,
Outstanding bit of artistry my friend. Keep to the high standards of excellence.
Highest Regards
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Stephane on May 15, 2017, 02:23:03 AM
Wonderful job! ( the Part's interior is a kit in the kit!)
Regards
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on May 16, 2017, 10:40:07 PM
bootyful job steve.
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: pepperman42 on May 17, 2017, 09:20:19 PM
Beautiful work

Steve
Title: Re: 1/72 Albatros D.III (OEF)
Post by: Cajun on May 21, 2017, 09:36:16 PM
Looking great Mr. Steve!