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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Suffolk Lad on November 04, 2016, 09:13:36 AM

Title: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 04, 2016, 09:13:36 AM
Hi guys,

I've really missed having something to post about but finally, having had far too long a break away, I'm pleased to be back at the bench and hopefully without too much distraction for several weeks to come.

I guess it's time to break into the first of those Wingnuts kits then and have picked the SE5a as a starting point.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/N7aqGz5Ak-gJ9waYYdWJvqFsVqNspaOqowrfkrILjuEJs-NOVHrzXyTeTyex26E9wLso8CrMb5TcAGpFinfh9vM2Lip_7jRxgrA7ZmNBr9elM9G36mdzeh3pCarCYoM09vWCfmoT763bx0fQTDUVFP5U7zRfwXYqpyydspM49Gc8XcLRUga-uqramKF3NToLREN1O3L6FKIlSYS_L5WneBb3dF3YPdUT6u0GLaGpYDFPE5jjA2OxtxdK1sbgpU3ui5SIKB74zqjfogLmfhX6w5nF0XMeavkShoi4ymrgvgasSFc7AUKnkeuNO30p20zWnSnG2SJGPrDyDW4_HJ0eq3Zvb_3vRjSO3pLkGmFWGKcWjT6sFV8Bw4HP10HcxEoO-bDzk_z0yjR5quHu7MqxXN3dhIIsP2TgA0DmOTI0a0IucM-FDxiEThK6t5cUsvM2wI2JBAzjwWByem22cJwVDG3_F8tx8-WUiYneQ_B_o9-HNI81gB2HCZeDr9dOwLY-sD876drdJYgyId9b8w6voAYAKB7BAJxgK5_MDjTdB-MtBNg-GrseXfXcCC26hy6yiR2C29qGKIiIXPMkbaXgdyCufAiwHMu5IXYIxIwKX-8IHuoz=w1224-h918-no)

A tentative start has been made on getting parts prepped - the one thing that is immediately apparent is the quality and precision of moulding. The insides of the fuselage have been relieved of the cross bracing and the ejector marks removed but that done a firm decision has been made not to spend time on anything that cannot be seen on the finished model, the accent will be more on overall external effect instead.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/EiiF0-EqPzMa8L_wv9-zU5UJA-FZTpGbv3kCGzNRdYEYce3hVPKRXVy4lOC2kQbE1SCyQpW9C9X_NY9YX_SjbTWSwxbNRAVbBtIuZQSAnpJn0VwxVxEOOuqTOX_vSGVvnpr19wauGIUyN2xzwuGXbEFzsnUIEgTW5YW2ZlhindqnHfci2cCUlXByGZczBVVIULSM3099wizxKsKAUQqkaWK-JpfNYpl1n6L6GQk6IqMdJ5DamRc0HXaGvfyHIPBO_CY9WAlxRtpoLC2PCZeE6eEMCbF-jXtfBJMIDYNSxbVHCvsL_0Z4_bNqyCHRS4SwXHj-v5753PI-G_Alf7btW0ZVJnFRfPe8zn7YYBaHeozFJnQWjYswrogbqQpo837a4zs8cSujXKRP_xtBdkUfTe4Se9ZZoic59Y6mYyvkeQ81WYdp2cTzjqVGME7eDyttoMaPstOYgundCHE3rU1cZpVdT_UEcIxxLHsGa_Bdk2UKZA9CiQeq7rJvZEBfBdgwdaVtAJrCsgnay1DbgB48F5w47gH8JuIiM88F2WVnEAOLNe68XOMxLHJh1Xr82hWX_OdmJdPYhJIYHpd3QNMMKGGRbr_1TxIqPuDT7I4r_wSRnUlb=w1224-h918-no)

Some may recall that when I began the Hobbycraft Camel build I made reference to a desire to have a case containing models on the sideboard below a picture in my lounge.
Here's the picture (print) - Dawn Patrol by Robert Taylor of SE5's from 89 Squadron and the materials are to hand for making the case (more on that a bit later)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5CXS9dE8bXi2hi1VqtUuSbyibrdfurTyHORsmZup1ruW-vaZ54NK9hCavyCE2INc6KYCczg4D97t9VnCMOoNl8-IrRnn1-rOzOcTFiLn_OkI0zrMAYLmn9yHBocOeg7aVEpOSbjRAh1k9rXeVluE-1tI7BC-EhIA2dS-XOnXWStLOAR0qnhx7UmyVLucKXijqtBTqVO5DVHuMwZCQzu-dn28FdNEWexfUMOvhy8SL_9X_hky-amjXcE0iH8_6MLVmvT9F_kfPYOgOLHjpUJNFAzPKd-_NXn_iXZDXLXLE_JZAx4hjrsYCCBCUAO7DeZRwEZmjBrnJFUlT0wdtw8a2kOUeKEWmtUQPfWmZ6jsRGtCNp906nEKboqud_hX-IY9tgkISRO4jLx6EGKOLXhSGiUntmS4etH157GCX---5nYIKQFfo0pcTGTkVrZChHmf72yygl70cJ8F3j4jxkZ4mIf45k0UbHMs3G42rJWJgYJvgOYUo6GYtlNUVEJ6bmRddG_gL_B8eBk_5y60-k_LlxTRbHmbwZF6adw4B6MuB9QIID_YqhGyedfjtc2ul5tacjpSR6mNWahPEuQjsJmpkYXQvihzqpzompjxKhbtUPls-ETo=w1224-h918-no)

It was my original intention to finish the model as the aircraft portrayed above being flown by Gwylim Lewis, co-signature of the picture with RL Childs Roberts but this picture on the 2016 Cross and Cockade calendar changed that thought. I liked the inset roundels and that large white 'G' and fuselage band. There are two photos in the SE5a Squadron book of this aircraft too.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/x1rmVY4MS0Ka4oO-N82q8igUkjuiAWBjISJqVojtK6WUXViDPu7gN4_eRSBjIw4nBaMH_gRASOIUA2I_WQHVZ2pZgCbZLXfTefAOAwXc6Ul5YttmAGyk4JM0EKT0O0HDq7XM2isI5BXXUlyV1UqB6x5V5bnKiQwrPLJzQhqobYcgMh984BVgBSEU7XRPbRr8nrEOzu6uL9I1VR_9y0GjEe1Mti0tkIi0_CGUhfSXaoqvOTQD6uJq1L4Rs74-NZdDYzv7MtekXl24pmVqmrYozlemCMWXfnz2osS8odihvrtmvKGqPHm1rvYEryGjLsg-kyFoshgFrHRGZl91lZ6S-JGlIwh9M9kMeNFk1vwWgmyBPjoMnXBqvbbhcXaOyWouNteS1sua7XmHcKKQQ_xcWiLZgbeR-5ltsyzx5FzECJynSh1_6e9fg2jOdFQ30P4gK3WqVC_7xybn4HJAcN_Asa5e2yP6DHt9NjH7F9NVVX38oKlpA9-mOOgE766gRBuZ5Z_a-JQwE725SEGWey2690TV5ZjGL5vQ3SE61PZmLkRYP3xKYfHOFLBzAfAqJ4LzfVpFIv70RejN9ZdCY5MDW2KSOnkW7BEZiH6VKOAkd3QZnOdd=w1224-h918-no)

Well that's it for a first post on a new subject guys - it's really nice to have something to say at last  :) - I'll be back with the next in due course.

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: rhwinter on November 04, 2016, 04:52:23 PM
Looking foreward to your build, Tug/Lad! I bought one only recently and either imagine it as a post war skywriter or a Viper-powered USAS machine (Rowan of Pheon Decals once mentioned he was designing a conversion set. But there's also one by Mastercasters.)
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 04, 2016, 05:16:39 PM
I have the same print in my collection and mainly for the fact that Captain Robert Leslie Chidlaw-Roberts MC AFC  has signed it.

Good luck with your build  :)

vB
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 04, 2016, 08:05:49 PM
Ah, so that's how his name is spelt Bob - it looks like 'Childs' on the print. Do you have the sister print, 'High Patrol'? That sits above me as I type this and was the first one we bought - must have been 1984/5. As great an aviation and maritime artist as Robert Taylor is I've always thought he never captured the Camel in that as well as he did the SE5's - still a great painting though  :)

Sounds like a nice variation you have in mind RHW but would I be right in thinking the Mastercasters set would be for the Roden kit? Given Lances adventures (?) with his Nieuport cockpit details I can't imagine it would be quite in the same league as the standard of the WnW kit. Though I've examined all the sprues through the bags on those kits bought so far the actual quality of the moulding is truly outstanding once seen close up. As an ex machinist I would just love to see the quality of engineering in the tooling - I was looking at the (very) small bent piping for the engine yesterday - barely a whisper of tooling halves on such a tiny part, machining at it's finest for sure

Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 04, 2016, 08:16:48 PM
Quote
Do you have the sister print, 'High Patrol'?

I do indeed! It's one of my favorites of Robert Taylor's work. My HP  hangs in the Man-Pit alongside some lovely works by Russell Smith.

vB    :)
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: lcarroll on November 05, 2016, 01:31:35 AM
Tug,
    Good luck with this project. The Kit is, in my experience, second only to their "Biff", simply outstanding quality and engineering throughout! I did 4891 as well, with the later "6" and modified cockpit "bubble" addition. I liked the Kit so much I immediately stashed a second to do later in standard layout, probably as another 56 Sqn. bird of Rhys-Davids or Burden's.
    I'll be looking over your shoulder closely on this one!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: GAJouette on November 05, 2016, 02:00:51 AM
  Tug,
This promises to be another Outstanding project my old friend. Looking forward to following along.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 06, 2016, 12:52:50 AM
Von B - It was not until I joined this site that I became aware of Russell's great paintings. My 'collection', at one time hung all about the house, now resides mainly up the loft  ??? so buying another would now seems a bit frivolous. The decision to reduce the display followed some major redecorating some time back and a desire to have things less cluttered. We still have the High Patrol, a McDonough, Wooten and Trudgian hung plus my favourite of all an FE2b by Joe Kotula. Joe did a lot of the cover paintings for an American model aircraft magazine in the fifties.

Lance - Your remarks are confirmed each time I look at the parts  ;) When you say 4891 'as well' - this will be 4893 as flown by McCudden with 56 sqn. Two planes same pilot, or ?

Gregory - Nice to hear from you - hope you are keeping well and still back at the bench.

Sailing packed up early today - really miserable wet and cold conditions - so I'm now off in the warm to do a bit more prepping  :)

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: lcarroll on November 06, 2016, 03:08:54 AM


Lance - Your remarks are confirmed each time I look at the parts  ;) When you say 4891 'as well' - this will be 4893 as flown by McCudden with 56 sqn. Two planes same pilot, or ?
Tug,
   You've got me confused now, do you mean his 4863, "G"? The Cross and Cockade painting is of 4891 prior to McCudden modifying the cockpit walls, removing the headrest, and adding the big red LVG spinner in Dec of 1917. I'd love to know if you have more info, I had a hard time sorting out the mods and markings when I did mine!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 06, 2016, 04:49:12 AM
Oops Lance :-[ That was a typo on my part. Yes indeed 4863 'G'. (Well I was close - just had the 6 upside down :D)

I had noticed the image of the aircraft fitted with the LGV spinner on the opposite page but had not paid much attention to the caption ::) which is 4891 - however the caption gives this as 4891 '6' (The actual marking is hidden from view in this specific image)

I confess I hadn't twigged the serial difference between the photos and the C&C painting to-date, just assumed that the painting was the same as 4863 'G' in the photos.  As you say though it's 4891 'G' in the painting.

I think this serves to prove that my interest is purely visual at times and not historical so you'll be pleased to realise that no, I don't have any new info scoured from some dusty archive - just my old grey cells doing their usual thing :D

I'll keep to 4863 'G' then  ;)

Still plodding on prepping

My Best Lance - Tug


Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: lcarroll on November 06, 2016, 07:48:23 AM
Tug,
    You'd have to work at it to beat the work my old grey cells do to add confusion to any issue! The publishers don't help either as they insist on adding typos to the mix; check the one on photo 56/6's caption where they've reversed the serial of 4863. Absolutely superb book overall though, and the Camel version is just as good.
   Enjoy the Build, it's an outstanding Kit, and I'll be following along here!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 06, 2016, 08:02:41 PM
Ha! I hadn't twigged the reversal Lance - just shows how much attention I pay at times  ::)

I don't have the Camel book just two of the Datafiles but intend to pop over to Hannants this week to get one of the Datafiles for the SE.

Thanks for your input  :)

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: TobyCoulson on November 06, 2016, 09:05:13 PM
As I have this kit l shall follow this build with great interest. Unlike you I'm not confident enough to start on a WNW kit just yet.
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on November 10, 2016, 07:35:58 AM
Tug,
Great to see you have started your build log! I am greatly looking forward to what you do with this one!! Just to muddy the waters I thought I would post this link to an old thread I started  ::)
RAGIII

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=4830.0
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 10, 2016, 08:54:39 AM
Hi Rick, Toby,

Don't expect too much - it's going to be a basic OOB with just a small bit of intervention on my behalf  :D

Rick - just taken a quick look at your link - that looks like some good interchange there. I'm just about to turn in but will have a real good read through tomorrow.

I just have a couple of pieces left to set up and a tweak or two on the fuse sides and I can get the primer on  ;)

Bought the Data-file today - excellent production and worth every penny. My, there's some rigging on this for such a small aircraft - still trying to decide whether to use mono filament (preferred for longevity) or elastic (ease (?) of use)  :-\

Regards - Tug


Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 23, 2016, 09:29:35 AM
Well, having read your link Rick - I've had to reappraise my thinking  :-\

Until I did so I had no idea that this particular SE5A had the fuselage modified around the cockpit. As I don't want to get into using the True Details conversion nor spend time modifying what is a very nicely moulded kit I shall take the easy route out - change the aircraft!

I have today begun the assembly here are a few pics of progress

New addition was this Datafile to go along with the Squadron book
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dxKZFRdpfFu4zqgYsjCjXPXdTTJvUG-5dfykz5-ocYhqathLLWGWhcnkPK7duIOb0A0_nHPbiWTMTCyriEZUWVDF-LPnQ60etraDMXl41g4CNAOO1vNogFLo5aQz-TsbmvQ5c3PNmx1CcGOnHVw2E7yxbIbA9Y2EzecYvTT-QiHjtjn7CFakgZ9FIecjK4gzj688Ev1oZp_SlahvT2v7KsQe1B51TaqRNhi681bSk10eyF7pCAS5Hn8nIDeaE0VgeLCKjRFHszbyLYI_wJZuo590k38Lx7txg25kFJ3r3kF8ZF29ad0xxz3GAkvACxwZmtdLC8DpKjSo0FJttyPvNCs0_khHS_KF2pwl-SDQxkXlB6xeUhjYzTHNuDsaELdbbp9e4bmdCfz3eA6Nu5tQyA2SCyd-H44fe6LQgNHsG7XspZfRjsSBe-FsZwnNZ3SAAvmy3VCu_KPk1-DKsogcBUsyHYsdZkofArVB4Kr0R3sapK0OKyEhdH667qwShAtgXKygFVxmWR9kNcareHmCaz-zIqgQLfZyXCU76_HvpJGEsqUttmR5kP_xrfxiB0mRrrQa4vnq5dQOuxn1uxu2bpQiYOc3-Xjkt7AlGL5ixrI6WrFH=w1224-h918-no)

I decided to go with the smooth sided as opposed to the wrinkled fuselage kit parts but masked off the uprights and scraped away between to give that sunken appearance. The fin had no indication of ribs as such so these were masked off too, the areas between also scraped for relief and the rib tapes simulated at a later stage using narrow strips of self adhesive vinyl sheet.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/AvaREE30rQtynfw5pixtS5x2tJHmwQKmzbjB8tErqNGWhsrmOF6pgAzTUpQbsQbQfPFrzYjgM0uxfb2DLKh5CvSG1cE57rKl0YFKHJCRi7ovxtv5buHwzt9ZwiUqb-9VfjWNMaNI8AUzJnoJn9P8SvQDWjjira-qrY49zIKW0R30NPnk3mouNWjwx72GPQanqbEmkTHVUTJ1gm1jYTwPE4Mnr7P5r6tv8ZhqGUTRzsaF6ysm3cHRKbYheAY4Ru_VsAseghVvJ3UZpyhI--ZxtuWAN4nuBYD4wt7GEYt1wmtChIKksEJC199F6M0UhqRSbI4lNSv9Y1tCT5MmlTZ6fupwTGzvUZCzbIJW4FuVDIlRyoLGdRO3h4Xp9_fU70mqgHDWtGCHDl0s020nzHyd8FwsBedsH5QZU18r-JtIhR1IOtgXIcy1W2c-Dde1PtRmFRWwIgEkoewfZt0dXe2AzaEkh-2egyPaVEigH2514lNJHUf_2csH49uJW2lCmSbzf9yiFYHFsDTc_lIOodJZ4saoS9RpJdPKWygZysuSlFuFnMHZgn74fjMksrspYQ2nVIVl99QAXpoqiobvyiYylMn2lD_-q3ESMpv0rOQOKKvOymUv=w1224-h918-no)

All but a few parts were prepped for priming in one go
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/txtqkUnvAyPAcuTxee40JsMtzaFev677F_78OXuFF4NXhZUseoOjCEzKCr4ZrATGQvL0IxmJYAXM7Nus8_ClNBKIy7BSooFGEFKLbxDTpCP_Vi2DJeLVrEXUaoH2L7APy7faapFTY1f_IwWfm_cPS_9ChCuWoKkMPOae7I4kpoiXASZNZCfXserjjadpRwnmetzCM5vJM9T31jYFWcI81AQYc1Fh_q65QTOgxUrv_ihxvfFJ8Q8eEvhK_BFTSAaFhXdnUGII_SE7pdk_1kPxzoxT9CVz7OB-Yx_62YFY8D4H6mqPOh8hTxJoUrq31o9ifSzR7x0nDPZ5DEvR_Ef1loSGaWT9kaV524YGjfULo1qXL6L0qMI5QtwR5hAtob9u1wnVtVG5a1VJWiigZ6h06e1Nr4jhpwTVOFIkTQ1-vgvZlYzCdVySqUlG4rK9HLq-ipzy27UHJxAuqPP4PIoARkC4hJibFWSNFwlu9BA87L-UsA5KWNuCgEe8COys1zq4Ax5e181-Y3W6BmxY-B43W61tWliZred5KbG5aX0edP0kblJ1seMe3jfHggA_J_XDdkZs8KV_WCXA1xHkukY1xMwTpyidIg2YLWdJ3xDxJJxwS9Z4=w1224-h918-no)

Incidentally, this is my spray area - the filter, made from padded lining material obtained at the local sewing shop hides a 6" extractor fan bought off Ebay for about 15 pounds- a cheap but very effective spray booth and filter.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uCWURW4erx6g1Bceza62fSTOAtd4HknEg4NDxRytaZ2AniOgJSnexlr9ekSxoz7Fz8A56WfT85Ll69zORcQ0jrz-bsBT_sv3FlX7Ko3YvPbFgwQjLjg8exXrATygE9oY4l_0I3-__vI71nXUJr27IUvIm7BRhhC2m3azpvL8V6ffHhkBIl0wB_xoLpa5-sAEZe517NLf4MfKSPtD4eJDvJhPww06SIgCDOzsegkLQMJaKuOwaD7uIMzCWobKnVBeSNlvmStYAjZ6xeELEKOXNYMohsOIMCUDexqxRBVRyrM9qG_Avcv1RSdaMpoGXA9tKnn22E0Wr8QYZDPVo3kX1mYO91waYhf0g1CXjYathbyKbyWI031zeg9VYKa7rbGZMdFz_Y8SCerM4xhuylU54IYjCJjrlm8HB1DMS1eKmTVfeF2ENFlMMlQDFKOoomPxY965-Y9uCl-F2fT9ZXJJIaCACZxxVnfUkfIuDbh3SPiBt9G7uZETaVypneZknK7gWDTDpn-TkzTU13g0r4vTPc7mYMqlHP9vQ_pcp45xZWZBw_4_GWcaaqt0NXkJL8BVKXMMZgRB78L75elICxq_88rI4bNi6ppE6dgQafj_nzELbQwM=w1224-h918-no)

Because the engine will be fully cowled no attempt was made to 'enhance' the frontal area other than a basic 'wood' colour  for background effect (if indeed it will be seen at all) The moulded on tensioners were scraped  off and replaced using Ushi Line.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/n3rG6MBpBcZ0Z28qletcfiLGibHCbjhim7mcm2KrPqsJ1ZRD2qsO7gCnWy-kv50DxwsOnwk8kLgqoPPENRMJZ_0Kv_wWmYoUOqmInlhllzvChmqEDVE1UN2qK-90TcFecR1Xw03cx_8jXbQmT9pq0zXdoLXyEb-2eiLUCUV8pO0iYOiDJRNQLTH5VTK-UVUH2IBmsWenPN8TjWuEsVsFY_Vb32MNy96H_qUmhjWivm2n5nkL-Fu_DhrMPX3ZfPZqupXvhk8W8vymybSPYQRth3vt9CGpW5814NFil0Px5RK7XxKHtx0xZVk-F26BCjxrh2b1lTHfMxC6kx2X9iNWJyv4ZvRCldWl9TtD3Fz-lDLNfnup3jMpGl_II23Taz81lmguawazlMHMnJEpDmlgT7I-yT9a_Lx_lL4MBIUcIEULLzbLkuvofi_Gy9nakv_iR7oK8abrlYkGxc0cZSGV-8Z6KGXbiAtZBegCn_IpBzDjp52kkVEGgSdpGU8mxFa30LgoaOZKrsKI9AAjZfhQqDMfndAMWsaHxJeJHPjJaNS1ijA6vDR_itimgLQoSLAwJuc6kMqGaJkTPWan26sEsRszAVa9nlH_RaLiiRNrlr6xeizi=w1224-h918-no)

No attempt to detail the engine - just as it comes as again, most of it will not be seen.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pg4letWV91u6HofNNrr2nCm6ZQMdMck_WEk5Lo8FVmY_gCDkwLcDL8YDiBB3aEBJyq-og1wNfIiAM02dxWeVFcqETAfASoyw07iBsFw5BRbcctnmmMgGnoNL88XFu1t8H1F_4HTsx-P9u88tZDFt_DU6FcmVk5jOFkMPHzCx6v209SbGtrPtkT_0E_UCR3cNlHVjOOaPUGNRqTyklH_PYG0UiFU4ZDi5PUq2JxA3eQiTRuhugrwWWt3gzEnfedxyJUmMjrTU71KgEF8V3x-SuB9-KNOms-RruIfdvWl2lx_Wgfnc1cbTP1hCCdMBBs-gUkXRGB-EHKlJycEr4eEe_RS6iMwCU7-vYjNxJmACeycI8cdUuS-HXgD_DsstNWO9lKZGFl7gxnsX8e9oZ8c8P6HkVD2WXjV5dfoQtXL4CNpR0456R45A04j2sUQzsnMGJwCV2k6H3Q9Adj6K_8ZslsKguj5rprPBII2AeryPI1FimhqIkpB0OIHJP7qxW68lbnxQ-Be1ondoXP8gVITozdWC1TAY27zTTsmx8MyEpN_zP_Ww4qox6WiWiUhcckaxd2ta_xBjYhY3Omdzd1TlmlbzUI2CT624xliumGZRbmk8EGqk=w1224-h918-no)

The main cockpit assembly. The wood was done using the Alkyd oils over acrylic which dried completely over night. Given that it was going to be well hidden inside it was not coated over with Tamiya clear tints but just a light mist of Kleer (Future)
The seat belts were well annealed in a lighter flame before bending, sprayed with Kleer first before priming as this adheres to brass much better and goes a long way to prevent flaking occurring -always a problem with brass and copper parts.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6Pk6xmAG0Y4BIgSpZjmuPqzl0wpuZZLS_2snyfZ-EyW8O70UxVIOZcUrQ-mvIl4Sdx8t7MdUFaCETLV75lHLya8P3SzXmwP9sj9eXwsmYRcJ1KlC_yph9Q1KVZ61GB3ON85qMbmo2AUJ2SiYp71TUS_Q4RnPjkRtBl7HLcI1z6SxVgH5xMQiMQ_3QChUMlmn9tfKNoz-b0cxir51D29Hfpy3VVpcF_3ooV07oF7SQWHiE5d4UnPM1CR1sh93gBj35zKNUb78AgGNB6lsOXAmkuhFlGltlEwIuD0mwqk7jLM6BjumhosGGl5S26PQMs4bHcMoUN1hWTNBFQ6LqiqhBqOcvCCaFRzWHEaovAA4TQzPvnRX2ZuWjVewszdxo_ZjBYQ4fnZSJpnwCMkoWZQZ_7LapqxNTGJ7ev2rsKYpo2V4WmPLOPLZlPJW-PiTF313mv-OWaN8189WtC2UXro8dAILkdPeTkt8uunbomF95ClYNL1TpDCzPXImjRhtX1zBzHaW-cVToFe4z0FLpIuziFfx9jV79G51IYCPpbFmpd7d4gBBGkRLZ7uGaEbt58DKzZqKwUIfGywSBg-qzuJqh2RNU8ODCNJp3IrJm_Y1_H9reNO0=w1224-h918-no)

Some of the metallic parts
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bXhT1Tj9qEYvCWECMM08XWjDVJAHHktHfJGKoiUrKnC2h-hK4DO4EsoTHV3gmMA0sqA4dJh3FELGgLycHN8QcQhy-UAARj-psjgMOtfc4qc86p9C13Q_h8pnRTBoVkNRUiNX8wvez8eMYAzMHD2f7OLXKh5OWSGs92LjmjEnWN4IEY4wABY0VmgfjKE1QUJWwKfOAvTzu6l3lDy-g_1Ff-ViPI18BKFilsXYfqPWjVospxDcFziwlmmm2_rjUR18-WWj9WvWlwr8M0Vw_iQXVbSMU3YQ42IaYfoVxSVt8pslCaBsNScNRdeBzZpNg-_TO9osUrY3_A1RUrEeAxoYOLCyxTdMLYtKklzAhmpd2VF7rhGjH4fjUaYqO2s8rLKC2h-9yYfToQmnc31aQDZ113_Jpgvz5IdV83O7RKMCE_-tdqCqS1JXj_fTtzstGutO5R8DSBdA8UpLy1JBPwsIeHRxZjvGLdoapTN_hcpXoxEEGjUK9GY8u4orRN9HYCTh97WvcUd6TdP8NOVI8F1OLRbCnsWRNK8W1gEGnfQXiW_p_jlP0X6OygXTwVuQf9MNWBx8lBrxdGoN98yUzmkpYLMQ72I3ET-hWDcMermXCF5bLVPG=w1224-h918-no)

The dials were all scraped off the dashboard to give a smooth surface for graining. The dials will be replaced using etch parts tomorrow with luck. The formers were just sprayed and the cockpit sill is still in the throes of painting
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IcYAntUAsV04XXgqF5A4_qIw8Gqu7pcfh3TAxH-GAqs9cMBrh65AZ4XE8pSgh-_FaSSOifNDJsYYjqUoUy0r29gEuQX0CEMm0y7Jri_I-J4nfbIfxZQ6CUYOO-5oARdAWtkzDSdspl1pTyLLN39tbbDekE81RDxgBtvgL1t3lTqeQYVtyp5XVPe9q007ESpDBzg5Ey-9F3rqebxUQqzjTpJ_G9WZKpfr0T1uEn96S5w7CcQ1WkDDalFrPjdYik7HsVjVM3nPR3wzyl03h3lClIPh6NdceJBe2p-OMKT9sBvKKSNiXNc4wtBbqDtWzfTXLA3A0Epx5g1lDCFXBQwNo-HX91jZdP0CGL_pfX2NH2BpErPXZqq-yotBx_1IWJGTTysExXBdogA8__FGAet1bmD3d0aiTqAUxmwpdUh5VAh64OJJ5yo_RQ8o73sZWEW0zMti3HNmurGPPyLqHk7WSKxslc_x7hhaq5bWV7olI0Mu2c4-Ptw5DyWsBaWN3QaK2vqup2r9K2L2FoARMNZX-D9noPCQsNGx3ZEREZOynog3ibAG8dRIZh4lnocyBqB5D6u5Fro5eZyTODprDsxA3zh7RlnmoxlFoz6Ih6_1Dtm8pF9I=w1224-h918-no)

And finally something is together. I had a 'near one' when applying some solvent on that joint twixt seat back and coaming - shaking hands flipped a brushful all over the left side :o  Fortunately my fingers, though holding it together, were missed so it was just left to evaporate off - a nice big, solvent induced, fingerprint at this stage would really have made my day  ::)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pl_7Qb_Y-u1U973wryHzD44fh_OtIpuEARKdPor8uIdRbH9X5fXrX2qPEAdR_JMB0kj2_CEyi3x_89IRx2eQUnpvxQH3J9FCsd9n52uXAQ3_xQTeC-gp5OzOFxTXeia8YJ-L9jay39fAzBI_7Tb0JVM0mlKhDmxxALf0wZVqUYItNgB9Lnjz7NylzDty0Ax2TwDMOj_Eb21sHLOzYf8IqKpdYY2O1xGoD_6Xf8Em5qOAMXew8ghMmRdcfyi73rLMYaYfNTnssMFH-tGiuk4YjOAaXoVJNPG1MgqqkJmWqUN2l6A3PzmV6eJIlDT9OgrQ7FeCWhC2wL13UfO_8GdjyrWkwbq9e4kgyHHW_aeWL5m33sTJzVoJlv5gwlJi6_iDZ1SvJQ7-WR8wplljvL4L2LarhLYy66ksMXEeqEH-YzCSOL1mP0auBATBhUdoaDMnQLuXyj1CRpxntJW-GIch1wAsVVC3dqRisrLC1K3_v0o2OkR7KxLgYTERwk5jIBay2bkdFLJkfhnEL9Krf3r_ulrumpOLBx_-1lQnJUDu-_ya6FjTq3eg-Qa--5UybEJJmxr16TouDliCTpidGYFEzjZUcSycCBUgviAFZjKK1sKqHTFV=w1224-h918-no)

All these pics bear testament to Lance's comments on camera Macro facilities and the ability to make things look far worse than the eye see's them - you'll have to take my word that it doesn't look too bad in the flesh.

That's it for now - pretty run of the mill stuff but I hope that has some interest value for someone

Regards - Tug


Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: coyotemagic on November 23, 2016, 09:47:35 AM
"... pretty run of the mill stuff..." Hardly!  Excellent update, Tug!  Brilliantly painted cockpit bits.  Makes me want to build one.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Juan on November 23, 2016, 11:39:15 AM
Outstanding start to what is sure to be a super build.  Looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: lcarroll on November 23, 2016, 01:35:20 PM
    Your Machro setting works much better then mine Tug, the cockpit looks great and the detail is exceptional even at this early stage! Looks like a real winner in the making, that lay off didn't hurt your skills at all!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Manni on November 23, 2016, 04:16:30 PM
Very nice start. The pilot's seat section looks great and I like the idea of scarping away some plastic to simulate a bit sunken fabric. Btw you have a great workbench. I wish I could manage to keep mine just half as clean/tidy as yours. My workbench looks alwasys like someone threw a granade into a sparebox with a lot of sprues, cans and paper ;D.
Cheers,manni
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: PrzemoL on November 23, 2016, 05:54:43 PM
Lovely! Very fine subtle cockpit. And the engine. I am watching with interest as SE.5a is high on my to-do list.
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: jeroen_R90S on November 23, 2016, 10:36:02 PM
Looking good! And I also envy your workbench, I have a small booth for airbrusing in the shed, and do the rest on the kitchen table :)
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on November 24, 2016, 12:13:15 AM
"... pretty run of the mill stuff..." Hardly!  Excellent update, Tug!  Brilliantly painted cockpit bits.  Makes me want to build one.
Cheers,
Bud

I agree with my Amigo with one exception. Makes me want to finish mine   8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 24, 2016, 08:02:42 AM
Hi guys

Thanks for looking in and for your encouragement and supportive comments - they are all much appreciated  :)

Managed to get the dashboard and sill near finished today, took some pics tonight but they really have turned out bad so will try again tomorrow, hopefully with them finished and ready to fit.

Jeroen - time was I built many a model on the kitchen table, particularly flying models. The balsa dust and smell of dope did not make for popular conversation  ;D

Manni - wait till it's been in use for a day, then you would see I'm just as bad  ::) By nature I am usually a very tidy person in my workshop but when I'm into something that virtue goes out of the window and 'stuff' just builds up all around until I reach the point that it just has to be put away start again to be able to continue (if that makes sense  :-\)

PrzemoL - The engine is just painted two basic colours Alclad steel and Tamiya Nato Black with the odd bit touched up with Vallejo Aluminium. The wash with oils was more out of habit than actually required as so little of it will be seen.

I must admit it's nice to be back at the bench without too many distractions and having something to say

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Alexis on November 24, 2016, 11:27:17 AM
I must say Tug , I really like your wood effect . Impressive





Terri
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 24, 2016, 06:15:51 PM
Thanks Terri,
It's nice to know how others see it as I'm still very much on a learning curve in this aspect. This time  I found using this Alkyd paint over Acrylic that the actual 'smooth' working time wasn't that long and the constant working appeared to increase this drying effect, the paint beginning to drag a little. It was especially noticeable when doing the propeller.  I think possibly a tad of linseed or poppy oil might help at the cost of slightly longer drying time. Another might be to wet the surface with white spirit first - I think I'll give that a try next time.

Thanks for looking in

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on November 24, 2016, 11:22:05 PM
Smashing work, Tug!

I still use "normal" oils for wood effect - I have to let it dry for a week but given how long it takes me to build, that's not an issue!
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: paulj,james on November 25, 2016, 07:08:46 PM
The speed you are going tug you will have it at the Christmas meeting  nice job so far .
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 26, 2016, 04:22:09 AM
Hi Ian - my impatience to get on led me to look for something faster! The wood work on the Camel was done with traditional oils and the wait before it was handleable felt like forever  ::) It's something I'd really like to master though so may have to curb that impatience a little.

Hi Paul, not very likely, perhaps the January one though.

Nothing done today guys - forgot that a trip to the Bury Xmas fair was on the cards  ::) Lots of 'traipsing' around hundreds of stalls has lead to a well worn out feeling - ah I'm getting too old for that kind of thing me thinks  :-\  It's sailing tomorrow so that's another day off  too - ooh, lifes a bugger at times eh?  ;D

Back soon
Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 28, 2016, 05:44:08 AM
Hi Guys - just another three pics as promised

The internals are more or less done and hopefully I can start on the outsides tomorrow

The dash, sill and top cover ready to fit.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/QDH4IjvOMk0sd1WdS5QOihX9OcrvPK4pUlW30Z7zus5CKDCD_4rV7L0mVzSUzLIw6m4mS9tqbZU8lIWH3rOVff9WzcR1558K-GTqrQzrNBycBJpbPk_kby383fT3ZI6gHkqVwa6efjAU6Nwo8FDUgxkX6pmKobTFZ66GWfHKwy3ZNqzYQocXPNqjdv4Y4c2jloiyBSuYI8zxzotJ0N8WrCdMl-EtUKD9jYj5ozi_vx8VAPVQ8nAS1Bhzn6EiCFNuXsrq7ZUhzWtURiNhWvsnUrTM3gbgty-8nhLAvp3j7iKvv51kuhDqy65mfHL65cfz93AJZYH1bWb40b0ZVej5EQ3aHXpYh34AROBXXcyxbi6BnTKBZ_RZ7CcYO7LFO8OMcyzcDPqZifRYK3Vm2t3UYqHXe59S5DxEIYeWVSrRxc2CxO9wbaQD-R_vtfA-U__57hwCAq65733wG56-7MSMinb0s2bbgHezxOmH9_QBsZkaLcv-k9Otaci4BHrE2bo50W1uvJVY09SrMKfle90Rv1A6PXTcz5q-KS4aqEEx8qZAa9YyGS-xjoSHAoJKxkOHkxhSLxjDPUGs-M0DMdNm7-leZr8b6zVJJhIXXJocgzvnT61_=w1224-h918-no)

The dash was built up using a combination of WnW and Airscale decals and various etched dials from Aeroscale. A little bit of copper wire for the plumbing and a petrol tap from plastic-card improved things ....
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/s0bockfRDX9yP-uf4wuGVdwp3VXTZOlQq4Mx__RwrGWpY5fHuLcqZeU-cbJMNVhxJN8BjmcOuyBfAhr_LKQrR8KVK4D5AYO0QRx2JL6OegRPlTTgz2J_HbRD9xeqRTCKAHx4y3yqFsN9iDgAvNs723PXobNUlpWdnRYrYX3zuwQAp86EVDgdxddvuRAwEBRosqh5DDOC5ULodOsrZQGfqKDwnB4S9fx9XU9ydnNmRdk1C2fDWw7LobMkmre2_sJYVBPMk1MyQ0u50sB6ytIpGdyDdopRav0v3GQ4swT5P0w9oXlj64GimqjV7FVbP_MYrJoFRKmtKOdSimUf6BtcEbViDarLGY9_FUPiS2jYaOo6Dr2KKo-iQaDmpKBA_Q636ihzr5IdDNo-DOT5ne3DeKDSebWlnMoXN8qRd7_-SFf-liHWzYTbCXOTfxxBeXjFhRYl0vMX2JgzEaquTX0pTuECUg4ai7WcVbcD0J3Yvzqp5sUBAVTBDqUf77obqDHPzFrUKLgx5gsrZ0Q36KXs3nQqfHj7ZiYV6jIL_toOItks_hwTO7MUVy-ADmil7TBuSmXnKv5jSexOnQixytzCzDmSSDIbwKhiL4d4atMHpdVN6HHy=w1224-h918-no)

... then right at the last minute it was noticed in the DataFile that the turn and bank indicator was missing from the kit details so one was added from the Aeroscale etch parts.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zhkdZoOQk0VIINfv0RtafEhpyFJ2ficNhJoZyBm57eUjpp3n8_Vyjxfv7EZsXQfgS0ykq84cPWsqL6R70IxnN__IyPQ_I04VMG9g95BkKz8Xmlc7V_B8EaotI54kNiuu3-w_WPSV31kWRvm4stfNUHp8HF340P48cxcJ90jiQRDSNhGL2EIdU2kltecpWZ_YBNBl5HoL6sY-H63h0SJfUAWC2oQSXnPcPoMVtX6vRj5t6DnfSZsuwS70M7994bPVbRIDWyfPgfHesZCbWaIRD_kaoiXWDQDzoMQN-YyDU5hsqt__AGljZzwTb8NUgZyNqNzygpMDWKruu-J_M4lIE18KkUSO6qBJ3NjD7VvFKvkDVYRYsYcFG5jnDCG7ynyFMdbUEgoGMHtTKCeC5zS8ZftBpoERgWMQlBUAaoFyIM8K97_gd9y60Z46UiXR_RhOvF51CAMd0-Bl-16J4FI98X1ILQ8UawqSIfUI8GrpAYSt3epil11JurlAjiJB8x5h7zb1iHRx2vf3uHeko5mzszh4keDiiLLSigHIBLveJjl7ek7IMWyJIHkoD1cpAmS4P--sCV0MsKJ1idriHqNu_BLOCcYJhsUiuDdAVHb_ofKooaf5=w1224-h918-no)

I have had a dry run with putting the top on which fits well with a satisfying click as it snaps in place. The cover over the gun however, fitting perfectly at the top centre line leaves a substantial gap at the bottom so this has been addressed with a sliver of 20 thou card glued to the fuse side

Hopefully, as said,  tomorrow will see the start of doing the outer surfaces  :)

Thanks for looking in

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Des on November 28, 2016, 05:50:29 AM
Brilliant work with the cockpit Tug, the wood colours are excellent and the instrument panel is exceptional.

Des.
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Juan on November 28, 2016, 06:44:28 AM
Very good looking office space.  Looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 28, 2016, 06:26:07 PM
Thanks for the endorsements Des and Juan - very much appreciated  :)

Hoping to get a good session today though it appears domestic duties are going to prevent an early start  :(

Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Nigel Jackson on November 28, 2016, 07:28:33 PM
This is all shaping up beautifully, Tug. I'm looking forward to your further updates.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on November 29, 2016, 01:23:23 AM
I am envious of just how clean and nice your interior looks! I am looking forward to your next post!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Borsos on November 29, 2016, 02:12:02 AM
This is definitely a very nice Se 5a coming along. Very nice work on the interior, I love it!
Borsos
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Monty on November 29, 2016, 05:56:06 AM
This is looking quite stunning, Tug! Some beautiful wood tones and great attention to detail make this a wonderful build to follow! I see a big Tammy F4U in the background there... that will simply steal your WW1 modelling time away!! Regards, Marc
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 29, 2016, 06:33:51 AM
Thanks Nigel, Rick and Borsos - 'nice to see you here'  :)

I'd hoped to start the surfaces today but decided to make absolutely sure the cowl fitted over the engine before painting. It soon became obvious that there was an issue with the cowl not sitting down far enough. Finally traced to the engine cylinders not sitting firmly down to the crankcase so the engine was broken apart and rebuilt more carefully (who forgot to scrape the paint off  :-[) The cylinders were just not quite sitting at the correct angle either. Once corrected a decision was made to fit it at this stage and carry out some fiddly masking rather than trying to get the cowl to fit after all the painting. With some minor tweaking of surfaces the cowl now fits much better height-wise and near perfect length-wise.  The oft quoted advice to ensure that locating surfaces on these kits are devoid of paint layers really becoming obvious today.

That said, despite some very careful fitting, the top cockpit cover fitted back in place with it's positive click still needing a smidgeon of filler along its lower edge on both sides
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/llnF1cQtvGgS1bzpVI56JteL6w9y1fHbZus3kEpwSHA28Fw_Hq9is4GW8EaD0lmhrYCn5tS_mjZapNrt5b12ufUG534bwHZpjj388EyEbZzr2ijqo4ixzIZajre_FeJuNrfKllra3cUF5mEwiio-zxZtVgrTeRZ5IcuZkxc-8L9GCYRglq9mttcnAA9sJdX_J9Z0zCdz1GDkAyS1w-c-Qk6TLEGYxsgJAZzEV1N8Z80LTxuXpVM_N1DBG1wLzYXPY56HwRjLaxvN8RZAEcX4Ekx9bY1TTo0zT27MY6-J1giK7PtCCFYKejlbVm24P0CaTvPMXtR4ZMC_wL8lDniBqTQU42Z0MDLuJabvmv63LbNG03kH5oOqVZpuVMURWLeVbvhUx29V5BylbQvR6ZyyIYu6e4GJTW0ukdodrBOLMV7FYGE2h1tgMM9-7soxvbgbaVzR5jNnK0PiKdQLKaha6aMhgstFs6IUK9UfUTNaxOiGGKNdKfBwFLwGOXTGYj6oNnDculi9UxeoZpRbEo52pr1lTasm5Xo_XHRP-kQ40uKEomgyK7MllDudSdGOaPTeIOgqnH9DoDsk7mK5-tYFCg_oanwBAiHc_XHl-5-q8ZsM23rf=w1224-h918-no)

The other side required a similar amount and the area on the rear fuse just behind the join was rather full so this was scraped to fair in with the cover.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gfuKEu5hi3nkN1yVg9LE8cnd71QFwtKoFQ05ZGw736Bhv5a-D-zdbCILXbwZhuQ2QbsbV4Yg1PL3B7zyfvZXWCmjfoQngawF0XbImaraB5TBGjvzESmDnBV_Fjk9Otwn3xPLt-z2qh8QvT57FQqp6WuV51cbV4XcwnH-nkT-xcEjF0X8y_wmy9dZHi_-iaYArNd6XNgNWgL9mQ8IUSDBDlY0mg-oICkCjXzPkrivD3JoAe1gK22gs1GeW0TpYx3PlHgTgLq78UsQqQ9rDe_bagTxZBFleV2CiNyc1iXWIPTVGxsK0JGKsBzlrNv8bAvTJoSadTZyEvA0dw86R7be4qwDnww2FHm3vWoDzUaLP4-Hcq2zmiL9mceJBmvaCy4_zYfFoP-Qqge5hay4ZmUx8Ez5wq8fAQAnbowWvecAQDY_HiNXhWWy60NurZuDn-d1GCxQl3BBtFNWf5ZDsSuQp1rJ279MhshYuqtrR-yqpqfDstFPkfcgR2Tak2Uw9ZsxJ3agdncJaTLLl-8wpI1Dk4lnOeNpGwHm7zWilmbAUzZVMOqWZWqe1Wy86b2gnizxemMl1boMtZmoPpCvousdcb58D2wtUJ0z69OOJJsXq-dEJC8G=w1224-h918-no)

As said previously the top join of the front coaming half fitted perfectly but a thin plasti card insert was required to fill quite a large gap on the lower edge.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tW9R_uMcLfoI91vP6eO9T2HPFtM1o1FjLwks89dl6QI733n7wsQ6Imp-K6HIMtrspfQaarcdODrViZOYNt5HnQeys-znvZSwUnxW7UkCM-a1Tldn1mcCn1QwOBKOJj9w3-QhyxJ8eQ--tqcGX3s7HSMcog2bOI11uvT8-Wsc1jCgMYHuy7k82Y4iNxmLzyt-87IGMubVW2hCO68oJ-ZfRskdMlkn-ZXqtQNfB4sPsSuMiJafelWAcOpfZfqpaONNi7iYBk63S-r4foiGCiaKdRCrQiAkZSJazJFOqiwFbquuyiuQN3p2olmX0Hrpt_uzc5dxItCPHD-4XKMPIIKSnwsD62qBeWWpckV4xrF1g_HYgpxD1MVjgbZTdzr-FHndBnksob3ZZPDa-llT0Q2cJ1a0FRhQ0zaGBJ2iL5r0GYgr6fexnlPRfbr0dzaf8voYPvOaau-4zgRwWbhm08uU-q9JmJGb4g-PySVIYq0QOZtQVmiBl-UFjOCHy2ft7D_PprDPFt6ZZfu133TTQYty_ENDIHL7AzjXoc3LKz1Q5dR4bAvobKQ7tDZgHiycPQ5T5o3UaiQwmDHrZLRLF3UbAWSmXZnZp3VNMb-xA106WbtdwGlb=w1224-h918-no)

I'm pretty sure this was not due to misalignment issues or lack of attention to fit's that caused this small amount of filling to be carried out but the rest of the fits have been superb - particularly the fuse to wing join - so it may have been something I did to cause that  :-\. I'm sure though, that once the paint is on, it will all look right enough.

Your post came up as I was typing this Marc - thanks for your comments. Yes, the F4U was bought in a moment of weakness I'm afraid - great plane with stunning character but I'm definitely more a jet man so it could be quite a while before that one sees the top of the bench ::)

That's it for today - thanks for looking in

Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on November 30, 2016, 12:57:13 AM
Tug,
Your SE is really coming together quickly and looks terrific! Soon you will be beyond where I am on my build so I can follow your lead  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: coyotemagic on November 30, 2016, 01:51:17 AM
Beautiful work all 'round, Tug!  I'm envious of your pace!  My builds are becoming glacial by comparison.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: GAJouette on November 30, 2016, 04:51:10 AM
 Tug,
Outstanding update my old friend. Can't wait to see more. Keep up the excellence!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 30, 2016, 09:01:33 AM
Hi guys - thanks as always for your kind comments  :)

Rick - you've overlooked one small factor - you're building three at the same time :o

Bud - I just try to get onto it as often as I can but it is an easy kit to put together so it's progress is not due to any particular rush to get it done. It is nice though when you can get a few days of continuity in the w'shop to see things grow quickly.

Gregory - nice to see you look in - I hope you are keeping well and still managing to get some time at the work bench.

No pics today and only got some time on it this afternoon. Masked off the engine - dumping half a new bottle of Humbrol masking fluid over the bench as a small distraction  ::) (Fortunately not over any parts -phew! ) Everything is now in primer and ready for some colour tomorrow.

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 07, 2016, 08:41:07 AM
Hi Guys - managed to have a good day on it today  :) - but most of it spent masking  ::)

I've done some pre painting before the PC10 is applied. This is mainly to hopefully show through the paint as it is weathered. I have decided to do it as a 56 squadron B flight 'H' - only one image I can find and that's of it crashed. I have no idea of how soon it crashed after being built but I'm going to do it as one that has seen some 'exposure'

First though was to get the CDL on the lower surfaces. I used Tamiya Deck Tan as a basis pre shading and post shading with Nato Black.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/DtBzcp0Aas9RxjCXqpaSuwHJQ4YPkp19pnhv91ivwCoOdcrMvaE1wbXHks0aD5Cucic0TkUkaQPXhmHdyPtPkl83UHaP-QlVtNYkaEu7HGWkHX36KIJc95vMzN_b_GJo55_yQRoJkJ4L4_tbHoBSfLvD3nertJy3y_RcZwIxIHU7cqASR5i7VPneSXW31OqETdWkII9DatuS06oAy1bfT66RyBieLpw1__PgS0OCziBQ5n9YtDk_edEimiYr53VdNZdykMwF100A7mqlceLVGOBpQBpHpcZ3IJ8CjxQspj6zKJZPqJ4WZm8gjoLEWJaGUXAwDB9nT-q2tBgW6d91VlnMTYIgfxMZ-plu018kqWKF8Z7nnhkPKx_NaUdvjWKecKVVALypuTZ1uKHe_ULvfRQs98OUdL4lDHxkEaGIFKlKuo45XDKuGF4ach3yQ9_umwuh4shaUesn9MG_QHe2wztYy3wsNjSl0C4QUy9epF9bauIhx2r2DwRAbYyK03VrsfqYNSiSfMtcCVmOk_UsQDFuV3bQ4AEDYiqsdx5trMjRc6H1Pz4kF1lKiCv1gm0b9tbBVMdu2I13-9X1q4zfKtf1tB7uvvYficllfG8JDXRKcpV5WvMt=w1224-h918-no)

I'm not sure of the centre panel - is that an aluminium cover or plywood - I opted for the latter
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pJ0SgWUPOO8eYEmjhX2WoJ2lzTjtf7WSeAHPCeJUVgNciibQEV3BXV9gk7smb5ebeQvupp50H3_VE-Rf7knyieaSitTDhIXRMLWYQvLA9XIMvmNijeURHOEjXiCXz9i3kDOU7aL6tyJ2UlkDIYK5okChT9iHE8Z4iSv7aOqjP8pwmo7RxJhXZ_5rkA892xeuTuSSGKL0ESHMblb2HszA0E76ZB-PMioXjw4PkgmTD1LFaZd1MfS_P1qKBpq-ZYGnLIK8fDwVLPqySOSsPrxgR5UDaCK58CVCdMGnG82jCwQmIJO6xFQHPc7LuDuaIvxGCQfP3wjTujGgksj5dJhzmfj-G-QRZ2wTtSeqF2KQ7l4Jc2LCr2x7QWkJSQkFD0PGWSPVoIKgUQN0vvTRZXFUssgl_e9bh99fE687DNI8Yr-4Zi8DqhivSdw0luZ1dMP3nYEQP2cU3JiQVgXSbD2OvuSeBfQiTZTRXYSqi28Rv7RbAwNut_hhMonS0EQemlxIe0YaJc5rSFF393MLM9nzVuaCifM5nsP9gLKBYi2wvQg_C8wDRALMWvcSrg8qTUxXDvYD1kBpIDPkMDObSCyP2QZS7WNXyZw4B3WP4mfFaec4t90mIMKS=w1224-h918-no)

Roundels were masked and sprayed using basic Tamiya Flat Red, White and Blue the blue being darkened slightly with some Royal Blue. The 'H' was a cut mask and is the same size as for the top surface. I don't know if the clipped leg is true but it was either that or narrow the letter or reduce it's height.  Once its on its base it's not going to be too obvious  ;)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/l5Mqum5xKuDd1jhIIu7VC0__mtoUJPWVKNhjP3UvzI9K0H23HCxdAtnt7MRqR0oSre-GD6hpU1i1_1yycqE7f6q1Q_Tmg6nXFKM9HJYl4z78aouEgQMbDq1Clg3s8fpE7z67Ta-Og-KQIlmRxli6kiwsI7cNypSTXW8EkPucvChrHS-pyxfP1rjG47hw3wZlVRbBj0zOqe6mDp-V9bH932yiWLYmqZFxeVPFvxyyXbEf5btFNWyg_VcWqu7qelVsrS1EejTQ7nnRwwnuTnRvExGc0h9h0Vaa9B1qAb8pDRoscARcq9o8fOVMLmWyMiYfxyDiSyBO1w6jSdCqnJG_1pNEdeGDIhe7AnWKl_jsFOv-ab2TvQp-iWNjtLhuPIqhC8SKm3TCljPTBhAOzoh_XF3pXiOp8PGBxtW5flWU-NEF5fwqwY7pxALEEEBXvpl2otjJmJcGTSIw0CNt4r3fiQMjYkwcYMsOBXSiXQGhIvzm_YrYmu5w-xx1ycRaFstPLq3YzJkLxOzsZL2JxLLnVnPbQ3PJ3a9FL2EJDbA2XUBZOiD8AoF6wJc8M01KG0u1ei0uw_wetxmdj3AG8_AiLCKyZxhCGrgI4QP5duMsGcz_4GBtJwB7=w1224-h918-no)

With the engine masked off the various panels were blocked in
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/M1HgBrf7hhTiHRHkR1-r9U8xY_KAc7L4oWwykVabHCD0BLbfZdZJaaCrUPSBmzeUNtTRilnrtmK63KqWC08fZC3qg6NyOVtmFYXp2SzP7COl0H6Xohz-9yjr5sSyA3uf7ilnlAAM-FcUdWcwPdkA8cLvBEhRN3OW6EKulgvuCcv6u8RDpoZRD8mFsWz_Nu3aYYXMq5xz4BAenYr7iR26hk1J_nVg0cT3apebXZkZNDk3rtxaAg89yfR4L8NyJLtpPRtA33rMiQFAWA1EoECQHUZL0lvBHSyrBeLq5vopFWMq_orbhPq0t1yBCRGiONRBXF8gTx3OBrpXr4oF_cq-pk2zJiXwJYMx14giM3uiaT2C0ttKfaKNZ9XpathcyuqwaJMLlqkAW2m49Cbhkk05l7sKPobO7vkOEksp2vS3N6fbMS9uX1nhYGxSELiAdWcpBbeSu7Mwa0ayEaV1lCwBRlPjLxdEwbriF2qSjb4qAqEyhxKu5rl-GRgf5L7vFF9VPU4jPPg3A99hRaRoW-TH0u9AUTREsQikYISrgaCF-yU0gXQ_eM_FK8kt0Yykg4-A4D6UugCYnkDFlFHRGm2COfOpTg0JZyuIZAZPIUp2XR4v6RSbFWU-=w1224-h918-no)

As said masking took a while but is always worth the effort in the long run
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/DNyFTbG5oXof8Wy88LOR2m8k2NOUY5WCnmFR-5EpRJIia_5juaX8VlQQjhxYUJ3VdpPAMAZUpn_zp55t5tuwdRHRoXGO8z9Oc2OOlT4NdLsqm19mcEAsAlTDOuJA1bvqBRkVMqfjk-m7YxuRcSdNoAqGaZ6UcFchbAY_gua5gzTdRR31230jP-3AuE3-42oLeKMS6uuM63skBb-zpCK8yuKo8ZSvl9COcqAfXzPsPsx4bJiwvlfX0PJ6Kc64lnsgCl_AFXR1X9ethxHU0gMGqb9futld5SRX9x5Js7Oo0yVYFI1ER3JOm6h7erFVsPfnTrmR_GASoR_8Lx8K7LCXuY87AbU4hoO1waALv4u_POi8Vm7_w10OsWacbxyBGkYddjX5tu33NOyR62I2l2igwQLCER9Uf1935ISwtPXVx0ElRbFR1VNhIm81zoixI9aE3kHwOASV4SFe_WMWzdyUXc6DiNzoEY2PqbtUtJYhAFidWgxLw0qSsG60iAhNr6aO_wJO_7RLQBHvaZS9hcYOQYtGt9xf4i5WgxXQNGRJMt-24oaos2GKm8L5FyqUdQzkzI87kZunvtSZoRm0VbtIdW-_IAuGj33dcFMKucWN0VLv6LObA290=w1224-h918-no)

The lower surfaces were masked off to give the border edging
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IuDoM_zSEKH3SVHKyYBaV6dxhJ3tawT0OcOLofEdO_MExE4DK8y04KQLzpkI4z321M-SKcyWP4H9tPz629bBhBP6LSFJZ79QOk53dM4QdG2Blayk3_PSVkxTg3L7SH78HD0iUmdbDHV1d6u3uyqSwcl57B5o1jZdn38c2tMErPj-113_IBZU-OHKKAA49ogtkfDpTbgE_8A6q6sOEyDpALvQApuBEJwmthy2xrM8pzrms9KXdHWDr4fkVwKTo1-P-VT2woVECVp4fGLBAq5zL145GgdWUIQxekyZHmdgVmGTUDYkuSQWWutDNB5Jlu-CbKo-DZR7R-vEX4hmySqZjUzPa47buw79I0wPC-7kT0_YQ-eCxeh9U10hBROurSEdjhATm43_YmG9hPDhZVdVQlWd-ojK4nxqEr1nlzcBXghfSnfjPL9fSZjYKOHwRy70PElzGAosBDsUKV4bMDYpwQN1S2km1JV8iOla16NHAf5Qq3SGfjIqPHxrHxgc_8CRbYo3Wl7ngfsb8NdP_-6BQeEGwMsN4lnvejboq0JSKtlE0qpnWo8EEo09EPLePzzoAG7c1X910gDsSCzcz6aXjEJ3UW6B2DoRnTM8H07f1S6pWl4R_S87=w1224-h918-no)

Some heavy pre-shading with Nato Black
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ulOgWsaG1PvXI1xDNp9wMXgRCpfpd8aTNDQvZKqQ9AZVwNySk83FcKPK5vexryxzk2vVx1kQ7IhMYBiUvOoWkaA2VU1DL9G4LPyOTrlcSjQ4ZjPIIve_CnGu55we7FXtfSP50yyx4hTBlB_KkUQhn_O0RtSkH4F0yTOO9aUxZtagw32j6OWQkuBNpSZwjSvIA9pIE2G_DGaAQZye0o3ZnsChKlcEXGFaSsTPf2fGqjGrsDBpxlfHvUfVc2kc0WuzLRDVUfbRsyJw7ziTiCLu-BuBt-XCLfVdu5SPPFV4dS-fUn0abRHWFJ5I2GvZ_JFAzo878tFDNTwpbVrIRH51wgMTkkRJEYh2g2q7bKnHK4bwY18Wv5GrVW9WgAHNDDGula-6WLuLNAIiOlsvogURfxMgTzrGdDqgpolciaVEt9Goa52kSz0xOYOBG8kM884ejwE150L8pV7tfJl-o9AAaN_HLe938hLzWLli9GBQUsT3gigdhBGEvjlpsii4fusnuG5Y22OJG2cBZ0mc7kySoktgWgE7GAy3djE62NpgULZ3DDCLZxAFM4jkL4CWtvQDoTQz2ziiI1Pf0x5bqiMw-i6ROjSB_iBFhiys2dwqEgkRjIHpphax=w1224-h918-no)

And finally tonight the masking was removed ready for the top coat of PC10 tomorrow
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SapJe1emwB39-2L5pmaR09wEMDD9-JaiGW4fR7ngTAq2yLWK2Y-11Pempq1dgBZDZU1VaLmrSQcgzg-dSwF2ztO6tu82neXX9mfX_ccsEOrW6LHc0ab4siPOhCpw60Q9RdUsoatQK-o4UzDLA1sO5gTNhkexfX2lTNx_pP47kJkCnX72PYiSDnpZ9AsPvnvG0t3vCN8x4zT8CH8r0r_aPBTpTiJx1RVA__2PRv8nFnbYEZTgW_Zv4RREKkMhhmUrpFpFJQSKxiwwQY1O1AfAcq8i6O_OKBEkDgwPgcc-TsaTRQREQ1bv_Hx9G_lPlaB7eNGFQiqb5-Lrf_Rsvzle-eqJRwt5Nbdvsn6fIx7ucVCteIaS1hkRlyWTKupUH6J-QCvOZVXeKInIs5aWiJMtXCGnz591rcAaaAne9g8TfuhDfIASsqIm9qeOf1SM9IXm_5TEOBHQq8yZ_shubXyJWcAJpxiBG5R3Y1vTrl4lWlLSOD5eKVjKpisEbP1GplMdfCtXg4OT93xc8r5HI8uVHFYwEKMWsHYNzMa8P80k9rDqox4aB51G0rHOAG8XqbBr2C8BKyXsT9mmA-qXuQifOY2-pVaYpVpsw1P8J5Y2OZrBF1YIFC7e=w1224-h918-no)

Hope to get another good day on it tomorrow - thanks for looking in, hope it's of interest

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: lcarroll on December 07, 2016, 09:53:23 AM
   Super update Tug, you've made a tremendous amount of progress and she's looking very good! I'll be checking after tomorrow, that's some serious pre-shading you've done and I think it'll pay off really well!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Borsos on December 07, 2016, 02:53:28 PM
Wonderfull progress! Your paint job is first rate. Are you going to make some chipping on the metal surfaces or did you just want to have a differently looking base for the PC 10 when you painted the wooden parts and the metal parts so carefully?
Borsos
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 07, 2016, 08:41:01 PM
Hi Lance and Borsos,

Yes Lance it does look a bit dark doesn't it - I may have overdone it a bit but I'll stick with it now and see how it develops.

Borsos - a bit of both really. I am hoping that the metal and wood areas will have a slight difference to the fabric areas and yes it is mainly for weathering and exposing the surface beneath. Again, it's a matter of seeing if it works.

I've been leaf gathering this morning - I'm plagued with endless oak leaves  at this time of year so it's a matter of keeping on top of them and getting them composted but now I'm off to break open that jar of PC10 ;)

Thanks for looking in and your encouraging comments

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on December 08, 2016, 12:19:07 AM
Your undersurface painting and decaling have really turned out to be perfect, IMHO! I envy those of you with the patience for pre shading and I am really looking forward to seeing the results on the uppers.  Sorry if I missed this but are you using a WNW suggestion for your CDL and PC10?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Juan on December 08, 2016, 01:01:31 AM
I am sure your hard work will be rewarded.  Looking really good.  Looking forward to seeing the next coat go down.
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Borsos on December 08, 2016, 02:33:03 AM
Borsos - a bit of both really. I am hoping that the metal and wood areas will have a slight difference to the fabric areas and yes it is mainly for weathering and exposing the surface beneath. Again, it's a matter of seeing if it works.

Regards - Tug

You are really taking care and you are prepairing a lovely finish!
Borsos
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: coyotemagic on December 08, 2016, 03:19:22 AM
Your preshading is truly brilliant, Tug!  She's sure to be a real stunner.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 08, 2016, 04:36:16 AM
Hi Guys - the top coats haven't come out too bad (not finished as yet and no pics at this stage) so thanks for your interest.

Rick - I usually preshade on every model so don't conciously think about it now, it just seems part of the process  - the 'base' PC10 is a 50/50 mix of Tamiya Khaki Drab and Olive Drab. I sprayed this on as mixed but felt it could have a slightly greener tinge so went over it with that mix plus some Tamiya olive green. Putting it next to the Camel which was done with the former colours it just about has the greener shade  in contrast which I was aiming for. Once it's had some oil wash over it it should look just right - to my eye that is  ;) I have a feeling it was either you or George who put me in that direction. BTW, the roundels and code are not decals but masked and sprayed  - or was that a generic term?

I'll try and get some pics after dinner if not, tomorrow

Thanks again for looking in

Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 08, 2016, 09:09:27 AM
I took these this evening - still some tweaking on highlights here and there to do but these show the current state

This was using flash which has bleached it out some - it's a much darker colour
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/l813Ex-EvKpQc0U520y6XuHl1HES6NsfzIVnfGJtDH2YIdcmCbzSX-0WFLFmdY8wVH_Mpcjs0qQ2RWS7aFCd4OO-CTvfwsUS2ZMfuzP8285QpuGzQaJK96y0yoRKNhqKYNyNafbJpaQ_NKxiNiQk5S4luNq9VP0GnoOa37qeV1PN75iOTxAV-2IHP15pU_p25m14AmfJxqWpdQ6L8zci6yQsKgKGZzczaiboKLqgJ0Ud5ZorGUjOYu45a_cVIIi0-fMuZlmzOKlWKlu4GvJhjaJH5Y41CUoOTCrvoyXMMTDFmtT7kTvhDcEKYWWNKjobtkxvD1oSlIE8dd5ivmPPm561-QyrpyMR4MUL6Z5NPD3SIcr6tr4TKs0EsU0JgtDPIcav4AcbjGIqmrBzu9EjUG2lV5I7wnk5Y5HF-2mb-EpiuMUQzI7OnHZmGVf3gULrNCsoyE28T6bZGIeyFxWqIGZNJpuklmHavEfipb6f4zFZxn-5t_wAqo79bn-8D87-G6rKv6Yf8gs4OmdPt7f8AQktKZV16YOPhPTcuE2Arpl6XXj4yDE-SFFwvSPZneHeh6mhfAFaV82D8iGlO2dR8tMaJIEnIul0sbMCZpDjPXVYZH7VhLdQ=w1224-h918-no)

This is just using the workshop fluorescent lighting and is more indicative
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YBfAkiwF-vaE7CICWnGIAnsGvwwahxpi3iUzy93Qo-mx-UPFRprqo5-XKhvNF9UkBKkgGJpCg1RgGNCqYkhvkafgdSk6kj4CakvhKpnq-DOhuddLOTubMkkR2hXm6rqYrTwowwXUJzb7OWEelwSI7JwGmwbTkoZTwo0R7lRCF4TNhm8PDOztTNviglqtIOfxykQiqaBBm4w9aiaMEU4gawxNaHjFA9LlNY3qo_IM6G-aOGC9xkTZfHo8hMQql4qLGI1jdYQSGofEKKToiMMxAO8MvhP0TTcjy0JbCIWrRodrPsWzmIyuhAc7vqRwSDcyKDiFBg5XRSpVSLky6gBjvWfYV8kckwEuVU-RXXHIZ3c12ZGyALyWJ2ym-s1L4WrA24YcAB7DG5fs_ZA6Y3lhsk1h4wHxWpxHd5pGSAEd76kekeZ0qu86o1nQ057iYdDQALWCLI7Fcph3yNoArZc5Dkm7uXuv9TARgVmiBe4ouY2Mlyt11RixgeUGE9-DchCcFSUDFEktMNaUO95SXKFJlgj5BEAEvCN17AQOIBbWmHKvcJdP3x8W_gAnroy4waOiyBRcmVTx4WvO8ckdtAjZHP6gNwDCBjzoieC8dBd5_2eE6qiVhCll=w1224-h918-no)

All the fabric covered areas have had a fine mist of Kleer to seal them - you can just see a hint of the slight sheen that that creates here. The 'metal' areas have been painted with a slightly differing hue of the basic 'PC10' with a drop of Tamiya gloss Clear added to give a different sheen.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/x-lK1adcyZBelJ89QxeI2A_SbiTEU29K10AWpSWvEKDdmgzSLGbrxi6CtklIdoVvm3Ta2sVRp96ncYryO17R90GlkNc0ZrlgvsC6tZsSGMYe_wTbI1u_LJUbn49rG35Yd21j24M3bbUP8tjD6YdaAHFFQCFSqLpivnMQqXyv3SX8Fu3z0MeP4cfcgkYU7XLEKKbk-WcBR6hujZT3iO4vlxF3DwU6HKlwEh7WCQ9kMwLFoQOGqEhEKESCw-i7Qh2EjaKNRG05_99JWVhPtBWNGD7Pq_wPUMTGSL_vz_tE10ilYRfvbvkPXmR1UaHIyLfoGVG4FplAZx9HGeWUsq9I1Hus1IZWBtYDZ0rQrl87YrNq_0ClGiMLN9ChLsaBeEbu8Fog8FVIiyuqCU_tKGShkE0RnGNx5WCjIj8Krw09eX_AMCY9FNDx_Z_Cv8NP4Hbq6te7frQVLb63sEDyruFgeqYZ7VP8Hu0ktc5S3Y31nBMaqr0XsPBETNMat5gE7ss2nnTTKocA2VudCz5Lep5B0VhjHBEzF0IbnXX2gYpabmrlWgPWJQMHWY07YHwEaM32khD9513NIPF7TlpXnRJMQpW-TFCHpNEex0ggAVPVYKCcxeBEa1ld=w1224-h918-no)

The difference is more readily seen in this pic - the cowl and other metal areas will be lightly wet polished with micro mesh 6000 to expose the ali paint below.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qKSYDQHSJKWz4YkgfgLKZg9g_fFpHZUGQbo2xsNGz1CkCoc72PuXLQhVT-nlG4ofTqd4zxJv9eCyM8ouS8Vp09F-20C99fLpbmAketg99G7xQ16P22N3-R2Aqq4KriZv1fPWzSBI8n_RN8cROiHXb18XilLUMcgIf3IiTyaBIm2nhd_NTbiIu4J8iwjPt3zoUNdApEM3aGdA6hif5WRXCfs9H7ajHHKy_VJfdudmU68aIUGbhigdHhIeYKnrRBuP7duYlXtsRELqu9EHp06FHqtwzhXdVpYphwsaKpg96DnodmOItzRGHVJdXCjHJ6TOYbRoI1F6td3PXg8FmDQau2dL3cO19yblaqrGboNavVR2tzOBX4Lfnb0ewud96zLkY-0-riGpSIob-wTy47l0QPvWcskwHnyqXvMiDQjbeeopuqMXhML7CuTcynRWebFZUpcXofMlUmWETk59ST91U7OTX5I8Of9kPVSFm0SC5YohlbOPVP49pxaDnkhGI7tJjy2PL8jznX3cbMCA4eNJ8_o8ccpQ8Ad4BCC5RmaxOAq7qPmEWynh70aY7ZzOMaqxQaLXI9U5iJFdlq6fWpwMwllbmO5vtqoihr6acJRyqZeSoHfXHNkj=w1224-h918-no)

So far I'm pleased with the outcome - it appears to be going in the right direction

Hope to get those top markings on tomorrow

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Juan on December 08, 2016, 09:52:37 AM
Love the contrast you spoke of (and is visible).  This a technique I will have to emulate.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Alexis on December 08, 2016, 10:21:29 AM
Hello Tug ,

I have been playing with this method for some time now , not on every subject . But , I  do like the results of it once the finally colours are apply .
So I'm looking forward on the results of the highlights , marvelous work so far  :)



Terri
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: lcarroll on December 08, 2016, 01:20:30 PM
Nice contrast effect metal to fabric Tug, you've more then reproduced that particular characteristic. It's looking very very nice so far, I'm looking forward to more! Wingnut Wings really produced a winner with this Kit and you are doing it tremendous justice on this thread!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on December 09, 2016, 12:24:35 AM
PC 10 in this case stands for Perfect Color 10  8) Lovely variances in the fabric and metal/wood ares! Beautiful work and well worth all of your effort!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 09, 2016, 08:40:29 AM
Juan, Terri, Lance and Rick - thanks for looking in and very pleased to hear your comments on how it's going. Seeing it sit in front of you and thinking it looks okay is one thing but hearing that your peers feel the same is encouraging - thanks guys :)

Very little today - it really has been one of those days. First the shower went into self destruct followed by a very frustrating time trying to work out why I couldn't get on line. After the usual time wasting phone call attempts to the provider - "please contact us online for help" type messages nothing left for this 'thicko where computers are concerned' but a trip to the shop - Windows 10 upgrade last night probably the culprit - Oh no it wasn't - finally traced to a malfunctioning router - Aaaagh >:(.

So - just managed to start painting the fuse roundel - hopefully all will be well tomorrow

Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: aliluke on December 09, 2016, 03:33:10 PM
Stunning work, inspirational - I have so much to learn.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: boggie on December 09, 2016, 05:17:36 PM
Greetings Tug.

Your model is progressing wonderfully!  8)

I am enjoying following your journey very much.

regards  :)
 
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 10, 2016, 05:47:51 AM
Hi Boggie  Greetings to you too - thanks for looking in and following along.

Alistair - nice to see you here as well. Bear in mind I'm also still learning - this 1/32 WWI is a new genre for me too but the trick is not to allow thoughts of so much to learn put you off trying. 'One step at a time' and try to make an improvement each time is a good practice I try to adopt :)

Well after the day spent fixing a new shower head and frustrating myself on this thing I've had a very quite and pleasant day ensconced in the warmth of the workshop ;D

This morning I masked and sprayed the fuselage markings and this afternoon got those top wing roundels in place

This is the Code letter going on - in hindsight I think it could have been a bit thicker in form but when I drew it out and did a paper cut out to try it seemed okay - have to live with it now.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sq5XvAl8fzHYAb5ajM-62yPxWkkFe2vIobfi2T6Jx4ih1YdGo8uiB7DXbKAc63Uo0AXpY6uqVSmM41NbvuahTENI4GWciHoP3sLmgxZZ7AOL5bXwNmlAP5R_OsBWVW4qLn8Hiplp67kh-BXH-Ea63PzeJq5Ar_WuOYtHcU0j8a5aDFsguqaEdUDCCMYP0nUTD5JQ3L5YlqDdZ0IMhYCcbYKRgPUOadXGRnEgdIeBWHbQc9j9YzdCUA1y0z_P0PWx48gj7a8fdvDsc9uKMPNZD8ptshtjBwpMXY3K2usHvDjWIiYjXc_WUQ-Vvx4tMQfYQkHskha14Jk2VIs4sdEMf3_KT_SxlPz-HhxwCUxI23fKf5soz5y1iS_dk_yGhX7JYDdU8NssPdUjZwrc4Gc8LMaEJj5TnFDRJn0ZOUQIwOZ_aWwfjabyV1L5RlCb-sBB6zNup3wudlg6om503N-yxLFhb2QSo0J2b0m8D8O6nFW_YFoB-IOns5vJsN1BebIdFKzc8Y6Dvsu6Nd8I2KjKsh3w3jVIQV-HYKI0dGxVPiOm_o8oncFjrI9LuA48CkYZXVvTHGH4ubTcJWUJOLpKERaD1mdOoVKXhgv-R6ejbTU5BAjOP5gp=w1224-h918-no)

It's also a bit too distant from the roundel according to the one image I have but again - it's a bit finite at this stage::)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0P30BsQCIsPxRgE6L7aWDjBF4pR1wLN8Oq50dUsOijuWzWaRm_7pG3tIF9dQBY8SW6L70Tz3K_PlDqwxFJQ1mCMhyzR6gcaru3v4LaK0yt10nm-NeWKAGLn137Ep1BY5f1y3W0NWc8O4BqPkIVd0ebQ6zzNvRrG1e_QbgSE2Qe5JTYaxeo8-YBPhZWYj0iNgjek4fREn0jm2UZ8-1LDvIoxoVoNF9t6jHnu2H-XfikYLCeGfWRx_tEDcZP_FVdZ93cUlYvdWny24LEXmHdiT4NeMEMN1DJ4zyJB5ZkvrNdMj7yX23RwpwsJlXF6hRbnhGT9pJ1dQwG6k3Poj2ew3etQR6RP-u5UiCG4vbO0q8Ooill7eHW37J1zETqgPe4lqqdVggXctzKt8s9dHoeGJxbB6GbnnxPUjvGi2JwVYIJGIULMSm_YCkCKMYcOocaFcQy9Gp8wlCTNalSKDmO-zIvJGd07Pn8odkmudXPN2UxMwW5-1Kp-cKCgpV0JSocAABPr2vcdVm1P0Rwcq_4a3oSgbm4xAVRScLJJxLvMXxEQqZ561kT4xBhTiim_9LLwh6DHv7m7d2S_sjVcBXQql6VIx1taJxLOg5sESzLHOaDAZEkL10aNj=w1224-h918-no)

Or maybe the roundel is a bit to far forwards  :-\ - it's made the same size as the kit decals but could only just fit there without an overlap on the lacing
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/h1wlSB0dcvEzyrzEg9Ej6IyTVeM_2NQ3uzE31sKqFapN1TWieL6i1NmeqvAW0PCBk4nUIqJ5un9zoe_qGyMIBkoUqnCOrDIZ9t_BXYA_Sd-ciVMDrjUTjTHoQ4K3n0n2gGVFC3OsQJQa9yLhlD1EzanfmazyuBqTlbbaOLEXJK5TTFzFpxee-EVUnSiiCQC6p773EZ2aRIUUjL9HhPxZtp9S-Sy3DcolPOmcdoUg_wRI6Wyk1iiUYmKptnGkiMLSIj-Db61tm1Fp-96gMf2f3zI-Mi4N6Mu6HcpACkCIj5wqpjhN6NltwaKLaa0ftpnirlhDuzbGEA3ZVhQ9Y0-lHLyls7wsFPkmWZgZVlXvP1-qpS84-kObfQdUWr2ZWvkvnG8P3DtS_q3XK36vesWMOMz-m_GgMsVoui7OF6Fut38PiO52rFzY9AD9_aK_VnDUTRPdvUJolHf4y72mGjimZ5e8xcVF9GtoHa5NbBmx44SJlPME7oT4TS2ugfyvFoSlCBZFdK2RUlcaohOdrQJr0BM0eQtDCn0cThCMJ4yI6dUGIkEeWbEqW2szQFU6BHSmywVhx6ez34CHFSVvBqUrTZl08889bpqvNhtkwsdBTh-adfdpRgXe=w1224-h918-no)

The top wing first masking removal - always an anxious moment
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/v8reedsd6fxX-3bwmGCbRrE1nekOVqFjAycfS-AoB0fOC_cEhkLcuOQbeHWCi_bttGHUtPOickD6RwXUSnSyxKuTbG45fmnpUXE6rivjBwGpmXyADCx_DemDCidXWn6d0iMUIJ_-TPNps1QFp-fGn4jpTB2Q2PWjqvJHtlgeIbxv4W2x9U3T08uPRndWVRNkt37_6VUV8AZPJNRz1y5tSM0PhSP4NYR0WLcdD_0J9Z3ijnfe8c2zAeqhjcObT6y3xikFRuhY8c1Lufby7jW3p0cGERmTffho-MWDfM-vHPEABhmNAXr4BX3KNrs_WJbWle-gfxatFBwrSIEkvkU6orE4ueSDNXwwe9yIk035lb2xF3mf2vrMkKePs52vezxnM2jOcwQZboEezjB2QQtd_6DLKAjdWp1yHqWOTjjKEnI3hdeqGvtHjJd3MYYA-p36jEnEP_RcZwhiPrhqTnfJoZGnDGzSeWN1bmFRRsB-GWeTpX9y1L0FMj5tKyrfs3pjjaXRwCCgliRhD-SM0IumUkholJDRACs6yEC5sZRXWIIDASkquoSYIbNyY0HDM212pdXrOdcOyNDGKz1ugbenFOndvK8WNF0mQQhsAKNDi7CYrbQG50pj=w1224-h918-no)

Just need to swipe some micro mesh 6000 over these and pop the 'H' code on then tone everything down a tad to take that stark whiteness out but that won't be before Sunday at the earliest.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WivMNSWKFfu4Pp74HDw0C5RDtubX2nC5rYZ6pYGZtXOLjxGBvcSgWc0OMM0c7TMur6P2x5Xy0RUGjlmjJXHn3ytdffoTu8HGdCgNTLNAfO8FtJgKtWQFUFRGIJhS8cwkRsCI2PuB2A01MZ5ib9gLE4cshax7OL6bL4FFOHV5Zfwnf1HbqPQchC-FnumL_iKHCDAxlyRCyf7U5iB3k1lWDl-_dwEaAjrnz517WHbeuLcthz1GHek7YcOle9C93fjJwct6WLFHUHzK2yV5z8aJX_e2gmXA62Q3iid5VuR8SjYMr0sZ4VvbqVb1sU2QKAFGMqtdjMDhsKmgPqpyFuikRzFrNHQmxOXdkF6qqOwlwrWESAl-r3ffoOgMxST9vbba8fG2UZnGJQG1WohORQVKC_1o0YOUm5iDjWKbgHBOQOkNj5Dv_pd8Cdx1XxWPJPMOv26kjA1cnxUzISJH8v4dF1RyTKGlerVInXrkMXZSX3fsvODpv5CtI9yUWgDvarOSSSq3vMUsPimlpaEnrOkxPteCJXxi1eneyad-_gB7PhsrrYoKw_j53sk7qe4cqv5EcxL1vuzHI7p55X9CXRPQR0ZVLTAxAxNHg6dQzZjbRpehzWUgZhz5=w1224-h918-no)

Well that's another step forward on this particular journey - a very enjoyable kit to put together.

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: lcarroll on December 10, 2016, 06:16:29 AM
    Coming along in spectacular fashion Tug! I really like the subtle chipping effect on the panels and the masked markings, an art form I avoid in deep fear of failing, are beautifully done. This is going to be a real beauty!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Borsos on December 10, 2016, 07:03:11 AM
it's going to be a real beauty. your paintjob is absolute first class!
Borsos
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on December 10, 2016, 09:55:49 AM
looks perfect to me!

where do you get your roundel masks from?
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Alexis on December 10, 2016, 10:04:20 AM
Excellent results Tug , looking very sharp indeed . Yes , Roundels are forward just a bit . Should be just behind the cockpit open , but it is perfect just the way it is . I don't think they where perfectly place every time any way .

Do you re-use the tin foil after the painting and unmasking stage ? I kind like this idea and the tape should peel off so the foil can be used again .




Terri
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on December 10, 2016, 07:58:29 PM
Tug,
I m in awe of your painting and masking skills! Lovely results.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 11, 2016, 04:42:11 AM
Hi guys, thanks for all your kind comments  :)

I think I'm rushing this a little though definitely not intentionally but these little errors are beginning to niggle. A little bit more thought and especially some better attention to the one image I have my have helped. Whatever it's going to have to stay as it is now.

Lance - I've always preferred to do an 'under painting' to 'expose' rather than apply it afterwards though that often has to happen if you go too far  ::) Given your lovely work on your Nieuport cowling I know you can do too  ;)

Ian - the masks are cut on a small vinyl cutter that I have a 25% share in. Four of us clubbed together and bought a Graphtec 'Robo-Cut' It will do basic shapes from it's own drawing function though that is a bit limited but it will get 'outlines' from scans and self plot. It will also import dxf files from a drawing package.  It is very accurate though I notice of late roundels are not quite as true as they used to be in the smaller sizes. - The serial No on the fin was done using the text function at 5mm high but I have done them as small as 2.5. It will go much smaller but the problem is that the very small pieces of masking material get plucked off the backing sheet. The nice thing is that once you have a design in the file you can quickly scale it to any dimension. To give you an idea of the accuracy I once traced word FORD (as in auto) in pencil on A4  and scanned it and converted to 'outline'. I did a trial plot (you can use a pen instead of the cutter) and could not for the life of me work out why it was going round the outline twice. Finally the penny dropped - once outside the pencil line and once inside :o. Easily cured by filling in the letters with a felt pen.

Terri - I do recycle the foil but usually cut Tamiya 40mm wide tape into 6-8 mm wide strips and apply a piece across one end or edge of the foil pre-cut pieces. As it comes off the model I leave the tape in situ - by the time the sticky begins to fail the foil just about needs replacing anyway. Foil is a great masking material and I've used it for a long time. Not my idea but from a well known American control line model builder way back. Far far easier to use than any paper particularly when it can be moulded around varying awkward shapes.

Though we packed up sailing early today I still haven't got into the workshop - an afternoon nap got in the way   :D

Back soon - Tug

Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: gedmundson on December 11, 2016, 05:44:49 AM
Hi Tug,
brilliant work - great to follow along. A lesson for me contained in each one of your updates! Painting roundels and other such markings is something I really need to learn.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 11, 2016, 09:15:29 PM
Hello Gary, my thanks for your comments - coming from such a fine modeller as yourself leaves me feeling very honoured.

I've been painting markings since doing a SU27 Flanker early on and finding the decals were difficult to weather to fit in with the worn and faded scheme chosen. It's not a difficult process but can be testing at times - the most tedious is getting the mask off the backing paper without distortion and ensuring it is in the correct position as unlike a decal it can't be moved around. I find the result is usually worth the extra effort though.

Regards  - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: jeroen_R90S on December 12, 2016, 12:44:12 AM
Looking good -bookmarked for when I (ever) get to mine! :)
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 22, 2016, 09:44:04 AM
Thanks for looking in Jeroen - good luck with it when you do - it's a nice kit that's for sure :)


Well guys I've been slowly getting to grips with things so here are a few pics to bring you up to date on progress so far.

Another one of the wing before painting the code on
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/voblrPm2Dmjwp_J3L-KmZa_b2PT2zTLwr3L1ZjadwzaCOj3B7z8Lq3mzSCZrb6tRcDT8Ky1qapmzAnvq1nQdr6nVbDHovhhx9trpS1tvAjBd5gFoCqJjUP1Gy0vFdrA25TORSTChoG79yOwxZN95HYc8bXws0pxUtl4I0ezuhJ67SdV2Mri6dXVrPnXC8KtAhdQl9FMo1q6rCAIDPp6lUVFS5GlpkOCHdpP9Lr1A5_PCuYOFazoKCEIB2K4CEsYAYfZm1NKP2tY2rUPFWO7M1u1zcDV6nAml8UfStUzPTCP0qwcdIV9JBKfkAmtWHfIdz2cYBjXXpezi4c9a7mM3Mdp_CVc_Ao6an2lny7i4SdLQmTZTLFRQXs2lKyVcHcV2O06yeUiHmGUq_0iW1W0KtPNa3X3OYEFcFOAlw6pwymqKnGMiwUl5F2XbdKlk6EuJNaV4wFEXKcOyqX3BoDKTtHwqVqhpQmJ8rICgzKa3Q0KTZmfbUkrvpPH92SHUZZJkwPDp39cxmo8ch6feUFJt4EADDdLQBJwDU4oV-aB3a9j6X3KBpI54ia5bxlicpAAlscH0YkMqFxVBhxxXkf3G2WNLM1NmHySrAuFSvj6zqp5f0Xatn4U6=w1224-h918-no)

The masking of that went okay
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/S35PPweXNOP4lDatVPOeKHx8NQfkFmrnkIhCED1FfXFOhAWaayCFEk6wUNkt_UbuU3MjOyX3GAvhvVBq4RFHohSnTCjroU_-8T5a_8fiFlMIbpeQJn9cYg6J4Foy1DWZfMgTqhPYVjfc2x8AvTAqpVnX3u3cJjCF1pUcUaZk7x_oEjeqf4_zCe27L689u3anxm-Z65cdaUmEO-Bn851yOimNysxrwwGdRtLZGY-_yVnt9EQPIJabG58olOOFXMy6RxqaXNhP4Osl36Sh1_cfvyGGF9q6I2z_NTngxOnfOMb5ixRMs27Y-c_hU3RTgdYTJTEryC8EI4ADwxxLrSYYgB9Qui-IL2QHcWmkcg6-rHy_naiROkdu43zDfXHZ3NHp0zi0Jkf7R8hmma1SbQ_3XyFb9jUeYlccX4QxeWjAA71C2j_M9_1XZvXIUpfHyPQs2SD-JgHPpI5EC40WQRBKgswvJWSDNIOIq0GCugbOdZ-Hp__SKS9afQlCBkixUP7CncZaHUTIIJ-8OjF6vdSm6_cRS5BAJtO3dD1rHhg8GqwzhqKuKRLBPdYIyibmyGlWUFL9DE9SFDRyASSEoTz0_63xxEZDwMhbZRFnGSYrWErV4M_Ltsry=w1224-h918-no)

And after a slight toning down with a mist of 'PC10' and another of Nato Black
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pfjCcBaqc3xdk75kqnBXcyTGbZ-mbcI4mzhvIT5Hs4xQLTm_OkPaMx5iKrEAwMN9ifNnaTrr0cRTbaB-Kic-OiC5XuSQ4Zt7a7uApGcXyCirVw5-wsAyKe2dZxDh43rMvopY6TSbzNw-wSIQ3MrZf3HoP1tmgSt8ytZATjwNgAOHnzi7izgfvwh9f7uZSO2VBN9sURmntMq4-jJKrBY5X7W0siFFk4914Vhx8OH38pA6_9qmWu9awGBPmffQTCZr2zgd3vdmWYNIJ2Hh7-V-EpWuaHlLBojM-lNKWiomx9Fe_oa8vFhX6r7eLSFSME_lnIMwG6Dap65YTYMeZ_zqAEgQ6YMbTAnZeKP3FbWKUsgnsht583KhzV20PmbZScHv_srZM4GV-OtL2dMxQpxd1lPY0kJJDSEzC6zeg6_gy85dC0FAQBDj_JlXmvUwyXqYd67prNOlhEoKr3DeeKSax5LzW7D8q7r5lOh5pZg-hR_xbubIo3beyUevU-Awv2IyjbsoA_Pgztfw_WSjhWydZO4HDC0kbITbMBNZcLPQ_3N8qhjMqIBsc8t_gUQ9mSjAQ01TIjlKh1pKhwpyDSnkYzYMIydnDVmQNCVvb-kbwl7kzPhYsKFJ=w1224-h918-no)

I used the same to tone down the fuse and it was at this point I realised a mistake  ::) The angle of the bar of the 'H' was reversed to that in the image!
After checking the initial drawings for the mask I had actually got it right but must have inverted the mask and put it on the wrong side on application - easily done with my fading cells ::)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/mIEg2u8EzPGze0u94ffxkhzG1VikFyvQPHYo3Ch30p8wCqS5zTK0vsshWkA1OiO-_NrrBjH_yEEM1zzLyamefFPP_YfRLjyAb2exmg_cTGFM3EwvUH2Nv8fD7kYOJG737bZq_S22flIYWCgn5BQ-JT9MIQ0KThNgwZt6EXk19bJVP1FuUSo4MaC1Sq3Ve8NJNc2R6aak1dS0xoZ-OLI6STQyBPAcCtymCE67MGGSRBnLyB7LMhRfeR-MoqySHK_ap7KQtt9D6Ijv3dQidM2yi4m7i_L7DQ1_SCfKV9p3nK48yFwfF632iDIMkNt4EZMYj3bIrb70t1QnAAm0nhojaRZo8anDXacmMOvxog-In2zR208JAcK0TrjNLud8D9tonnd4A7sutfkZLBqUjRw5dh0TMPx-WfD0yGYzfWWQZUhcss2DdKDpIyRIrXJKEfl8z279gW0El8F9H81dFl29ROs2t584F_OnfL94dX9sevjar8Oc6pSIv-k5aF0EvzAPCjyFCN5ldMG2V23euIxd3aYzZ6Osc3Pw7DEiN9ODSsIrS6_Uqu9jk6wWGOo_Ky3zx-dZ7rAn0BzSwyiQbnv1VPlHTe8_wnIjipKeRuTYSd4Y_0YmLQaj=w1224-h918-no)

Once realised I knew it had to go so I took the opportunity to increase the thickness of the letter at the same time. It now matches the one image I have on the port side at least. I did the starboard side a mirror image which of course reverses the bar as you look at the letter. Didn't notice that at the time but this time it's staying! Besides I haven't seen any image of the other side of this aircraft ;) I'm also beginning to dirty things up a bit on the fuselage at this stage with varying oil washes. On that front I'm not sure how long this specific aircraft flew before young Mr Truscott had his hard arrival with Terra Firma but for me I wanted this one to be dirty!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nmNqoLQHcbJPLLBKmREjeiulz12OA3DNu8eHj0aee1hoU8n6Xm-RaEvw0CYgHpHqp9Q0fi9yfwWxT_vlsMmRyeoZPMeLvCcII3zdU2cfZ8kXPgpnu-eH9YhrSJaTzCjfBgbZ5ORNK7v26Bafw5ysMmk5O9k3TbMJBazlNyo6INDKmyYSszAzN6wAXZMwsy-To0ivXnMBdnUaCz9Xa0q2D0wKa3KOdP4jRhRBrefcy7FvDbZBAyDo7eFoc8Ln1SbjLS0blQVxdXtM3dKs27s6eqRa1N9aDzagGDknrsEWqYWtmZVFXOz8EIWG9IDNxX773y1iRpdU0sETZtRrKoizu5mwF2J_wEULCoVE8DkxYLEx-JV4xZEu4Gf6td6NSEF5p6ehPbbMXQdH5FRs3ozEyQgOnVetGie-MkBTVoiWN-WNRK_SWRlV9HVGLeAyB90C0cadN3dq2oKs8kIZTmF6VpYUxpLf9CeXfBlxrNviNI33eXBfz6SjnOON12NQwthb1KvSwoUdNh4_rVhHakc8tJaY_kZfRm-Ii9ci2xfEu5qG5dTf_n37zk5kQIgzfWPCwzHV9jWqO5s6vcFYsDuP8nE9uAEic_n1irJeQZoyoDIjKedBV29-=w1224-h918-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/QANrB0UFj72KP6MpQTPyspUBLK2Fj4gh1ZOc3TkiEwtR491m5V-naRl2jFas1Bhii-SxjXVq-zdJ3m1znrP-cP1lqhiyXBcGsqfoSTlJFYpYF1gRu0rMq8RK2KsM1nz6VfxPqWMuDtM-utLeYdHP9ny2riO0PHghwOKDfCpymRi2cyIa-Wa6xeP7PFkhtH_THJoO-nyQaac0FTXdmp_Q0Bsrlhfc5idjAw0X9fQZbZiPxWZy_Mxx6NjqZXrxJgEtPGF0Y-ts3pEpKlX55hWr3R-eHXIpR8WboPUjmeC4zn6vGTloiaK5DwRqZqJNMrN9i_ju8GF5cI_HQjF0p2CMdV8TSoNIfCNK4fqO6oj-6yc0dBqkCeKz42ZLFdMmxT26h3hlek776TtySdJJrzXnVZ0YBPw5iDhdF6tlDYACPeY62G0Dtg6hX_S2bBsgzsbB0gSMp4M6U_ny1fa5QPfA2Pl_ZwNa9s3sRx968DYDr3jxhnjdh8RK18rxMVM7vTcSWUUgyBarbt-gS4kKskX16VSUyqKTSj8atmpsQAwdylfNgXWhya4xBv9OFxevJedUuKvGY3EixPe3-19UbHoKu4R7XdklBQ3IP2Xp9IEMMMZ_s3WqGB2V=w1224-h918-no)

There's still a way to go with that process and the tail has yet to be tackled but only after it comes out of this fixture
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8g6EoULoEzydmLpm9pGQhCuzGb3O6b8gbeLxleuj0i_E9lMuJOQrbEvDm35soNb5bb14x_0ZMjlWhKclQRIL0lDXCz8IfRcIATQ_iwfmkxyCpLNkvz7u2qpbYIpLfdjMbOcxqEuuaH7p-ZaNXi7QEEEUlhc_-VP2FQSGTgFQLC8sUawhuUadXf5ccfoVjW-pU9N8qyridqKxzHWY9KFYpuv7tp5BkIHhDuJ7WRSC5puZSLwIYH7dgNrI-0-Jfo1ae4DMwm-mLeegpve6yPd2MKEbpDPOC2QC-B5k86bdXub1v6yAepAhP2sa32caOzwOOvnrunaRvdcs2XFuVtFYjUZ8rxT8mLKoXwD92ZIvwHI63QrZCIR53YVr9QXcUlm5WkkiDhVj4Ul-iySKqy6tNr_hUeWxtD3rc5W2clzxexmfDpnBiA20kpUgTHUQ53aVI4hDrUOXu4fW9ZUGJWg0AmIT4dgD1pMu6TmwF4dVVTFHNX3CggmdQoJHv3yzKLOVhlOxxONl0NXVz-vCz9r6fdZJWthLcTtNbJ9fqHBUeFvkImCEv0nAlTkNqcAzFTK1BtAw4xhtalg-1JTXnGbaysbGZ_wAVosI5Wv6T1QIKabeHqXfOlMx=w1224-h918-no)

It's uncanny how the camera accentuates things - that cordite stain really shows white-ish here but looks rather under done on the model  :-\ The cockpit padding was done with the Alkyd oils and was totally dry overnight.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pUP_ybcJBL120QpvV71CS94kzjg8RrKxieX7M6P_FSjkX8HglqxA2ED4NuCGXhiezMIvKke_yl2NfayTIyArkrqb4KR0Shb3KSx7uQGIPtZFfKNS2HFWtnDjz6BK_7sfiIJExS2A3eKNq7I46J-vPaB5pbIjjXmjbL1xc0Kl5sl4QlS_Xjo1-OUEBQkg_-T1j_I_GKSIRda0iHLrgZKM2LvyVKfmliisC5W60-pNv-bHL-BZOkjvP7MXKWnNxNE7v2ORUcpxRynrrQ5rsl9OquGNCsRSKmpMpelMsYMq1F-OPIl1THyKD581nazCzG0hh5jUffYeiU6KW1pxtX_u9OBNQQgPkiqM_-beCQXLHSMNpjR_cybScbPRLddHzLBi96PuvOx-lS8_gpOG9v6WgBrtoHt282-pfux2C9h-luwXj6BK-l0NYEF0Y7hWixUqZOPxjGkCIFrtKyz4MadNV3qtm-iaCocKZ0_vmz1H2EcAF8hWDJEIrTOyqW4Tax3iyT7XH_k_W_Ru5BzkkE13YscnnHNRyd136SMrKR3EnlfAvf8ftb-ZZ2oiMhITXffwkc_wRzT3gYf88d5-zPIpVpFxSy7zp9YXtQw-2ARAc1BMLWq6P7hN=w1224-h918-no)

Also began dirtying the underside - had several attempts to create a 'spray' of spots blowing across a paintbrush with the airbrush but could not master the technique in a narrow band for the wheel spray - can anyone enlighten me on using this method? After several attempts on scrap paper I resorted to doing it by hand with a paintbrush and pigments in white spirit
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/awclTLBr0E8Z4f0Hg5rGHv24OWJtFDrPl4o3LPW9U7iYIx_ky01yFEQpJNSx4OiV-PgWKeCW-nx8Uu_NW6MyeujmvUb6KNQGtkClfCRdFG6nYkWKFMXF0-ySwy36KMo_7tSlADQNjrqfmKuN4ugz7vsVe5a7tEnN4YtM_unXtvvyAsMZass-fEuoSmNaYkP7QadsTY84spYRmNnnD9kiTVasZywkk33ZCQT4mJj06IH-D2xQFd04FtrPZnG192IPBhzNxpGuhypOFC4gJpHUYlLUX_sMufqNK-fLEfjcClVRGxjtR3ys3dds4XZoA8LYgo_WlGU7UTliyyqNGMeFwvLiCssZOep2HReSuk4_CIJ4nrlV0GSi3LuW0jxc2xyqc-cJHwvDdbKhV-w7sf5YFqUQu8qwE_JoWHoJAwAlT0Vulgt0JoZxhDBvCg9WtR0pVgnTAlTwESSV9D3wujAf-6-tmkFH6w4S350kp0NIT441fATLgaONI68o-jSFmaGPrntlsfH_niba7V8olWXsOYQvkFF8JbeJ_M00cu8PhptZnUncP9FLpgbDZygNOQghVjI5FRbSF3aKLrrnwxT1n5c9F4NvCNxEIsqmd3iejcvojoxxxChV=w1224-h918-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Q1bYfGmQk6vpad4cL_6OSXFbV6oQJ-6_us5MZopq7H0fI0vZkmDHLdWeP2EcxJYkMuHvR0B3dxWv-tjsPxFkjwH-fARfUd5bXUlwWn2J1jaNUY7P8Y6QodHGV-KYPggXowFwbe9_PGszLPAtBKynKgjrpTnTed8eSsrgAOffPiArVYsRtjoAwvDwpxbc6eUuqxS__1relr2YJqJFkbHJdcWopXqD0wlv160dg9dGWHOwk7x11j8aUSsB35zeDHusj1mga8tbPobG595HIRFrdSdqaPSm5Yc0HK5a_ZMSsNBlYlcJkpz7YOeoQm9q8nQbRCjER-UTdBnK-2WQj7DI-MRLufwOaDcdTKRjhkDr87Ft-ZVNIDTtY0ZZbchaFtKs38QI6JBgkEBrfrKELYm2vmEQlNJbcfMFzNUwWs4BMCs9GgZ313WqOZAa9TLjwrFrwNEEOVELBNr5_HW_aYjZNYhtXB47XQZYJXE02nvcRwNcBFnpz_c6KXkgy4GGwWuP0mzUv3PhStoSrzuFru6dG08L0IUWE8LdQDFa1Af2yTTQRE1EeG4qShJpo6O-dgGwOUTRjY6lcX8WaOn09ngLnBTA-a_E7-6qJm1p-vZ-WRn2O3PP4eBD=w1224-h918-no)


And finally some 'bits and pieces'

I 'wrapped' the cabanes using strips cut from the gummed area of cigarette papers and gently teased it around with a paintbrush and saliva.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/oSbCt3q066UYNN61JvY_hBXu1BZYe8VTt-aP4tOWeATgof01V_uJCdrlVn9KmSyHQpRBncjhwzmCmVDw7aaE0rr5U0Xefk1VmbXG5GBQW9ktLY27xJOcJbB9l_rNuNCZMrC-tXqWMWO3ZCcyrtf5Mxce1uPh9XBrzaxhXYRLKpuxOcLNc36A4-jVF12bf_MbgatQnPzbFEIARZMnwXhk9OmQO9hOwek6F32g8gwE7RI04V_EXDPUrQPz0iVfEgf4TezRNAmDUNR47raGxusbNetH-9PAAa_jChWieGrF6Q9iiqjFaRQnzw_fDEqfcs4p6fIz41FY7jGfgM5Cqi-WfgTiGOOOwkfOQ6EI85UL-LOpwti6X-W1u2qBrEx0-Th7LWzvPKdSkbOhiNvFdo98BsdawnblBtjlXXUdoJda6wBGHecaYgOyA7AkqST0795Jd-TeXK9f7qb7gijXNEvP7-cDQ1X9zBz-XBl-Hu9fgSrL4GeVh7vJ-BPSFMrvUNADYLeSweO8cWgN5jrSQ8Ovz1H4tXAqAT_b9fnAYC0-KYLP3VK6bfCKmfdPL5XRQfysn9qXDsFsVSLWlcBssjyvHmuDT0FMM_sWLXyaVyQ_Pgg9aLN6PgPr=w1224-h918-no)

Once painted the effect is quite noticeable
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/s_6753X738mLapbFo0lPFfYn4Z2fdR4qaJmduiUQ7t0RJgvhHNS_PrLRcRMrygSMr-osXDHRyt2Kd2dRki2bQMG7CJqYNC30P_eQRputO_M0Df_DTkMp4reuDzEiCde4mQtv58MYr4vCsLk1TaDpX3cVM841u_ThsRRr_7kFkfzCOeU1wqYJyxzxvtL-uV9ZejFcQiK-t8wfskBwjuizZnr0rWQMeg9CGim-unehA2Cp1QQrrAmdHlLmUY0Zq9pt-E7R0Azc_rwd6TccfFH-T5Y32imd2_RfCwS1FH5DTo6hxVCiF6n9xj_X_GIMarDQVFqzRamLkqPsDOyZDBOq07aazoYQFTUk0RzE3qre7NFdVFgJBRV0x7p3Rk8WbXNF0eGSU4hEpzKmlEEaaQbkVbmaJoqZ63tfs4f6y-qZzzUHyNEOP0AY26cybuJb_qYveitlUU-LUbfCmBkF4XeY3LYxoMHeEqQ1ACN0MYM04i4gR0HDKhxTHo6IHwe5YX0Uto_q0Lr4-e3W4UhUZ6eFKIGBf64mkRafPbWc5cdpyFKa1ywQdb-97yQCCVUrnYCkzDQVWbHjdIywWXC2uA36lkyAo5mJ1CL3KaauJd9CSthVaA59jDcn=w1224-h918-no)

The undercarriage parts are pre weathered. The tire 'Palmer' decals were  fixed in place with Kleer (Future) then abraded slowly and gently with 1200 grit wet and dry paper to tone them down some
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/mHmJf5wj_zT_MhC0EXIM5b9epz4M2m2qVfbrt9sxe4PClxjY55pypUkuJOky4Ic3pcshLfHvG70ZivwisvTBnw6CNIW-6CjVMRTQq25F3buXVNiUzOLv9LEvhEAuzHF6Xrm8I__6PYCol-YeI-tK2rQfJi6pWlmIJ4IsX-5q8rooiZoBhBp6HYI_aYmGsIDzOuZgcdeLzoOAjbvx9joA7Xg4zUmTOzxPEj45zHVKkR34gqTeJ1ehO2xCpOh_jAuMpY3Z4hTPzr9cz3HxaIhGxHndX6BOPyilruwk0MZDGJrcclhofR0od4M8rDQWTjYwQ_uY8leQe1WsyvBHcC3Sq7u6lKi2Bt1IKUn9ZNFCigCy_i-XeiZLsDIBWJV8aB5gd6c9j4KHYK4NVpgjbApm17x1WjRMXMe8BLzTBWNN_xUZOytZjViYMVw3IctxzAzXeIfcXyTibdPIFJiFOuUVEKsl8mreuVWQeNvPntUt7nbrYE0FfJj11oEXveZrkKRTnIBbUx1dDJ9WyQd7d7mQFxOjR1fDM-SZ7yBQm8pvmpb5owcHxTYn21cb2thpz3HjXWC9Ysj72nFrqK3Ap_uomHdtbYTH3SVFNKS6XVez0rokLvjEsX3E=w1224-h918-no)

The exhausts were treated with rust pigments before sealing with a light mist of Kleer
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/07E2AffczcThs6FH9aBmOZc2pk8drcEGuI5ReOaM1ECF54NkhLFLSlVWyS7OfnI-OuAnN_87WwOH6tvMqrDymf6-SQxJOqyqDcp6szvVgon4hs-flPpyDSZBSNe0saK3HZNuiaRxeFFEPeSs9ivet_GK_4R4uVhZIoChVs1zPyBJIcPfv_7hofOeNrkGsf5YNxhqm0cZZ0yUasAzX6R1L0bs7sTlxqFe52H8qvTjoAkcD1sOc5zBYXs4D4uAvhE8kyqwywOCak1c027Lv75WyZfEpEkTmdEZrVsKkX3QX2-i930kp-dATNjRp06jF1QeMySh42ko2IUT8CVQ6QRyjt7pWe4OeTTd73B543IjhtNcEO2KfKIajEnXpCKnKFDhRlo2KIDJd3yjNZ5NUhXLA3bkNGZB5V2VC2dfs79GkZ3aBPbxbCTnAUbG-gPx-DcmHsQIEn_ySUS00xcvi_Ig6J02eivCHGMlGMYq4xU_viXK4Y29lu6398akIaVVr2G1pCKweUQV8y4BTXmgglxMIqzfxMxNnUD9ixh4CcPKNmv2f3W2TgTY55u9zQRYLAi5aUF6r9wXNuin2NTKW1eW4wHMV9J6ezqQBHgU1RxBYPA_1GWyjP4x=w1224-h918-no)

And finally today the prop got it's grey tips and a light weather with an oil wash
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TuwlLIWR8c8m6u6SM4At1FTtZ4wbOlGpSS4xZpUitppZnvqryM0GKiDdgEiP3GROolXI7X491VmvfM43f-llA5shawFIWIjtZikA2NvMPAkdWk7nQiAdEvxPVzPb82nakIOorO4HpulJg_kRFB27kGnqBbFKDuxnDOlIEBAOvrjPsTOZQk0MoJZjUqzT73Rbh8vq5mV4wsUQsWu3PaQmdmtUhPLJCMKWRbMh6USJej7G_gnedxRT-NmCFsiJAVrnxgugBvkSRVPfvdPkQcH-3vyirKNc5zZtWSfW0jaUX-KtoqXAJ2tAG4UgMa-s470rMR0bs7s4qPgRugGjWJUp92RHq8Sgatw_FyPklfPMdiai4jVKMrks2F5AVxAj53IdSoTOkxqWGWY7wJwX9W7EBy0yA5LrttBrPUaiwPA63Fm70N1bDfYssUtGLdzDtF-m9jNfPtwjnKda5oNl8xd0pgnod6b19F6XnfKBsvPs0bCghiZsQHsuKAFtXbqiUjWeVUPkNaNKivH50FuQ-FXZhBWp_tY-qjI-bgQFhe39UDREJ7MW8y7Xd4wMzX1UxPmA2RuWNVGCSPOkGvDMnopA8oRrLrw-9vQE9dZx2DzlvRuf9WgMv8XZ=w1224-h918-no)


Well that's it for a while I guess. There are still a few parts to add to the fuselage before it comes out of this fixture but I certainly hope to be able to get on to it here and there over the Xmas break so with luck the top wing will be on before too long.

Have a good Xmas break guys and get that plastic ready for a Camel (or two  :D) for a New Year pressie to your self  ;)

Regards - Tug

Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Alexis on December 22, 2016, 10:32:29 AM
Beautiful job on the weathering Tug  :) Really love how the exhaust turned out .




Terri
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on December 22, 2016, 10:50:15 AM
Wonderful stuff Tug!

For wheel splattering, I flicked a just-wet thin paintbrush with my finger a few cm away from the model.  The liquid was Klear/Future (I think, could have been water but Klear sticks).  This makes a fine mist leaving tiny droplets on the model surface.  I had already prepared powdered pastels - but you can of course use proprietary weathering powder - and blew this dust onto the model before the droplets had dried.  Then by blowing the spare dust away gently, the splattering appears.  Once dried, the effect doesn't even need sealing.  I will try and dig out a reference to this if I can find it!

Edit.. Here is my DVII with wheel splatters.  The top one was unfortunately over brushed with clear before the splatter had properly dried so has streaked, but the lower wheel is just splatter.

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj621/ianfromdoncaster/Fok%20Alb/finished/finished7_zps71275f15.jpg)


I also did mud splats on the base of the rudder, rear of the fuselage by flicking paint off a brush with my finger.

My example may not have the best results in accuracy of the splattering pattern, but the technique works, plus you can vary the dust colour for further effect..  As always, this can be easily practised on spare plastic beforehand..

I think I read about this method for weathering mud onto tank and armoured vehicle modelling...

I don't have the SE5a, but your log is seriously making me want to get one!
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Juan on December 22, 2016, 10:56:40 AM
Outstanding, she is going to be one good looking bird.
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: boggie on December 22, 2016, 11:23:32 AM
Absolutely marvellous Tug!  8)

More please  ;D

Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: lcarroll on December 22, 2016, 12:18:10 PM
Tug,
    Great update, the finish is superb and your weathering is really well done! Very enjoyable to follow your progress and this one is going to be a spectacular model, keep up the exceptional work!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: steveb on December 22, 2016, 01:42:26 PM
Very nice! I love the subtleties of the weathering. Just right!

Steve
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Borsos on December 22, 2016, 03:58:19 PM
Very impressive progress. All Parts look fantastic and I love the way you wrapped the cabane struts. Very clever!
Borsos
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Manni on December 22, 2016, 05:16:29 PM
Wow, Tug,
you make this IMHO rather "boring" looking plane becoming a real stunner.
Such an outstanding detail paintjob! Thank you for showing.
Bye,Manni
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 22, 2016, 09:24:26 PM
Hi 'Guys' - As always, thank you all for your interest and input  :).

I confess I do like weathered subjects   ::) but I know it's not everyone's cup of tea and I guess I do tend to over do things but I'm glad you like it.

Ian - many thanks for describing your method.  I have done similar with flicking paint off a brush onto armour subjects as well but of course the area is far more open than the semi defined area of wheel spray under a wing. It's controlling that area that I found difficult. The Kleer 'spotting' followed by pigment is new one on me though so will certainly try it out. Thanks indeed for the tip. That's some nice shading/highlighting on that DVII BTW particularly on the fuse  :)

Having a good clean up this morning- Ha, been reading Anthony Beevor's book on the Ardennes offensive and have been sidetracked looking into a couple of armour kits  :o

Thanks again,

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: uncletony on December 23, 2016, 12:32:09 AM
She's lovely Tug.

for the spattering -- tried a toothbrush? Cut all but one row down flush with the base. Load with paint, flick with thumb by ruffling. Practice on scrap. Works for me!
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: bobs_buckles on December 23, 2016, 12:39:57 AM
Superb work, Tug! She is really coming together now.  ;)

vB
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 23, 2016, 04:42:38 AM
Thanks Bo - nice one.

Yep I've used a bristle brush in that fashion before but no, never ever crossed my mind to take out all the bristles save a row  ::) Now that is lateral thinking  :D. I will try this out forthwith.

Strange you and Von B think of the aircraft as a 'she' - I thought that was reserved for ships - it's usually an 'it' for myself

Thanks for looking in

regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Monty on December 23, 2016, 05:46:57 AM
Wow! Some wonderful weathering and dirt effects there, Tug! Very enjoyable to watch the progress on this!Some great inspiration! Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 26, 2016, 06:18:39 AM
Hello Marc - nice to hear from you  :).

Nope guys, I haven't managed to escape today but I did get this far yesterday. All the parts on now save the struts which just require finish painting before the top wing goes on.

This is always a worrying moment though it always seems to work out okay, A heavy wash of white spirit and a ouch of Lamp Black and Burnt Umber (Alkyd) oil paint has just been applied.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/hZ6pA7Oc28xeRgXVeq-NSQPHNmhX-LJe79gsCMR-0y9PFTde9PICA9b-xE-2iHYiQjI1TpGEzb6txcsKa9c_lapu5SnTj4c3xtCIMeNXFqvwuIKLjQr5em8AXfZHPWRmBfR_De0UrtzUZwrEgHdBFH8XIKlfVJT-Q_4JBJPczperyZ8vFWp0kDnhLM0RzFnQqer87P5_41K-uGLfXSiZoorD1U9Cin6kb73XjfzBw04bIO-aOckl_9MhPH4E9NXLpF8CWaAfaVB9ciZx1SkLIRM8xNIJ0sUL-UWhLKfs3T8WQoxatH6O9XG3pIs3rm9uYhsOMU5ci3EEXh30r17Cb34z__SplsCvRwDAZytUcb7zOe4gtnToEgb491s3Xg6RBMfr7aaHaraGZZ6lxssJWQe8HRjjMe89NGGMwPdEbA4vQjt8V3b3XlZBn8Al3RRbZcnteA5IgPwWLnZoNPs3n8-l4lbLIKYDr_1hgjjd_Jw5PTOGcHWsLi7gGrkEqASDuPJR_ih_38yAewTFoNBYZVv1mDdrp46ReN7dUYytl1-6RHEGlOMAMCwCUugaYrwYRf6d36KMnvebd85Tc8Qcm2ht_m3UPF-uwXakf5jacv0BUeeGsQ79=w1224-h918-no)

Ten minutes later with the spirit evaporated off a wide flat brush was used to smooth the residue out
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CRGXcOOa9XRVGsTmVDz5jwfCDiJuOhozSddQiMFV7bZLXbPpsivw3vhbbi-eHolXseKsroX9j2qu_niA8FMJJtgcKo9XBXB6zMTFjIrW3XKhZEhk1Wq72vOkdpGWGm3pECOcPqdYQo1j61h6haxEFK_XACpEkZgkiYgKJnOaQDRGuAl1nlxEODbI0ab6y5GH2__lpDmEfvBrRJr-QHqFrzeejCWmcGsYvgC2oKQ7iQDPB87A4eiykUxO2mkEGbU5b0VTd24cGI7pBV3cTq3BFLiee9HzORx4GxEXLJgLievT58XFRBKShWYgEnjWFtus2USyEWtpRuueFoqADSnnrhU3cafNO02Cn4dkvwXBdyW55DSagz8_y3IRkZwxbsbOF-ijUltwnN132YIT_DK7a8dd019fBC79yXU-b8Yf4ILE0gx5uSQuwJe0F3mVkM_ctc6ICar1rqsTNo2TTxVTOWm8cCvOAj-SUmMvoXeL0f05nXxJXFLT4a26eSq6LBgawX0O3P01uMZU97k5V3sAZ7cq2llpp5D0ZOh6FVHdkur78kDfLgWEr0XN_6Q8FVM-O9dFk_56ZikUkUsnSv5gTrR5YUlMfUZsqewylwOCvhak6fKt24LR=w1224-h918-no)

I had to have two goes at gluing the cabanes in as two of them didn't take the liquid cement well. Revell Contacta proved a much better bet. Rigging is Ushi Standard line. The rigging on the U/C is mono filament in the hope that this will help strengthen the rather flimsy structure. There's one or two small areas that  require touching up but this week should see it come together.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/d7C2tmRv3DSWBgMNicRGtdJ3yt2r1o93177eLwOGnK-ydThQVDor8cKsBUY_NmBdnlGGfZiGrL4vfMtm0zqRG0tcCeF1e_R4rDAR3xMzXNAe7jWR17x59v3DTiww1i49_DabYQf6teOJwMnlHA5XsRj2DflMww-E_TH5pgOHn9goI6D-oVyZliXiCiO4ku64B3CalTxFcppWqlHH0FvlEJni0yCFzkBQYikHU7s_GAP2L1CqBmM5f8X3aVzT39yLLqXGEdGllWYsw3w4D6ZSnW5c1ddnafaBbzgld-jEROsQsZ2ywXrGUmvzLLVThznLWUW5ipvi_nWXYqBqrAorv9IshOd-O6lw8m27u6brdgi0KcavvuJziv6sOZPVXeqX_lylDvD2OIpX2aFQdykevdvzMOM-su7NNVTk2h4-DnOXCPHnA-QYGxVY4QEiJbqOlBbjayNQ3YwI_r20gleCwhLsVXOThYbsexFH1TDq303joHYLnm-6M7tfkwYYPp_ePmpM-ZX4IEOtOHX-uePbZJwTm52cYdIIAHH3ThWFmrLzkPFabytKDLsOgjXQuE7e_lxAWXt2sZxDh-p_iIzugrABtdytoGaOp3He37Yczj77Foy_OuEe=w1224-h918-no)

That's it for today, hope you've had an enjoyable day as I have had, I'm now going to put my feet up with a large malt and watch the box for the rest of the evening

Merry Xmas to you all - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Juan on December 26, 2016, 06:53:38 AM
Great looking bird, Merry Christmas and enjoy your adult refreshment, you've earned it!!!    ;D
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on December 26, 2016, 09:18:59 AM
Absolutely stunning results Tug! Your re do on the letters worked great and the washes/filters re terrific.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Des on December 26, 2016, 09:45:45 AM
This is looking better and better with each update, excellent work Tug and a merry Christmas to you as well.

Des.
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: aliluke on December 26, 2016, 11:27:58 AM
Looking better all the time...still so much for me to learn!

How does the white spirit wash work? Sounds a bit scary. Does it just add another layer of washing/weathering?

Thanks
Alistair
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 26, 2016, 08:38:16 PM
Hi Rick, Des and Alistair - my thanks as usual   :)

Alistair - It works by providing a very thin layer of the diluted paint evenly over the surface. Once the thinner has evaporated it leaves residue of the oil usually in any engraved line or accumulating at prominent edges. On Flat Tamiya paint it will also have an effect of staining it slightly which helps even things out - a bit like a glaze on a painting. As you can hopefully see from the first image it is mostly thinner with very little colour. Using it over acrylic, if it does appear slightly overdone, it can be reduced some by a wiping over with clean thinner on a wide flat brush though if it has 'stained' a light colour too deeply this does not have much effect. Despite doing it for many models now I always have reservations just before I apply it but it always seems to come out okay.

The model can be clear coated beforehand which will prevent the staining but then the effect is not the same.

Hope this is of help

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 27, 2016, 09:21:11 AM
Hi Bertl,
Thanks for looking in - your comments are much appreciated  :)

All the small parts remaining are now finish painted and ready to fit so it's just the rigging lines to attach to the top wing and the struts to the lower and it can come together at last. Need to begin thinking about a base now as well.

Back soon - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: ondra on December 27, 2016, 06:08:23 PM
Great job, Tug, your build is an excellent inspiration for me!

Thanks for sharing the pictures.

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: aliluke on December 27, 2016, 06:17:50 PM
Thanks Tug for the explanation - I think I'll wait a while to try but the effect is definitely convincing. I'll take the ladder one rung at a time. I come from the very forgiving world of wood modelling. Plastic terrifies me!

Your SE5a is utterly brilliant- I guess you have seen this or similar - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVx4C4VDBVU

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 31, 2016, 08:23:59 AM
Hi Ondra and Alistair - thanks for looking in. It's nice to hear from you. I confess to having not had time to take a look at what others are doing myself which I do feel a bit mean about but bear with me guys I'll get there eventually  :-[

I haven't done a great deal but I do have a bit of a 'grin on'  :) It's also amazing just how long it takes sometimes for the 'brain to get in gear ::)

I bought this assembly fixture off my friend Paul.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/UZiD4OMV3U0M9z-jrKEOJI-GLPBSWrR9M5UC_emhBoyjEG7buB4FMo7Dn-VeeFdUyRr2-YejAHDu4xKpxjp6xlvHZIx_r0Kxs8HMxqL1KEvrKgvXtzkli72iQ9DAVn56XLUcU24xCTg7t2DThN_MukowEHhw6mjJAnPN49e4Vs3cPT-_zIBnI4hYNTgfLhKaGEG1Mvq2sIouPAKCmhaPmfUCcekRVxCONkXwxFHEggO-atRXK6bJ0b7K4DVa2pQawIqOawIb_hInpkIM-71zMj3l1SKdj0RrwJaZSt_6-DgfhesQyuzuKpPWYdfIxMw641WYcA_kT74mAHVOxy7VktxvBE1dEnFtAvntwhbTs_yCFgwLtmqTB3T10U2u2avaRZYmtIDcQ8w0KyRZ1zrHSBA40kaK2lKUvG2gAXEugqoca6x-NCTyPyGefvoquE7YdEpTI4URpoyHfI7uv_dIDXpaC-wga4woa76wMKZEkH0Cw94yhjCiYgGgSCYCcGMgUpNgCN_Tp96VbIBBEE3-OEwKwAnVXeMvfe3YxThBFh2m2uAzVYCnVY5CGETmCwik3WFttVP2eqjnALJtwj6U1etPwTVruVO4xAJREoheO8oxd4u_Xr9y=w1224-h918-no)

In the process of assembling this fixture I felt that holding the wings in a firm fixed position laterally could prove a problem so reverted back to using my original balsa fixture that was used on the Camel build.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0nVhq2MJrqrAW6R-ot8eE9fdz5UXqW7UBMxaX5SfXEA90Vc9167-ypaOA5tt7feXlEH7s0nVcSoj5y19s3bllB63Y8OKoVHKQQawRDDcdgMNIl5H8F8ClqZz_zoQd_NoL3Hc8h3Ar7B9l9HJRsRVYWt8ZslCvnKCF7Ua8FQd0ztn03VbvpJukNtqY36xTA3aeHjoo41zcyCtCC-gu_hEw6k4ZyAoQkED1dSAmLSN85W_lDdGYyu6uCuLsOTl-pEHSDbzH-6ucuGOdz6AvhD3lFbpRvv5T2_j5EjomtLP7gSleGsrDeXRiLXT6bfldeV-fkix0HBsEQtqld52n_gAHY7CTuhU6WQAvKMrM2SeqP-rOarGa-p7hCfFV1KmgrFeE3b550twTyl-5rmntaorkseW7IwzfqXr9aDyNynOqivD8hWExS77V7H7LOtGWYH9-9XR3ooVuP-inFOwpCmwhQ9Hcjn8fseg_RAElciS_98EUhyDeCKiJNSDmDe9Ep8f6JFjZGs1e_irQF687oSQTqmwoKmtQ4KjKTDjmE6X4q7aEIF0M1TplB2F6DkQDB05GhHyp6s8w_A8axJ-DAi_Gj8aA3RFdX7-zqy8BiDGDWicR1W2v0CO=w1224-h918-no)

The problem experienced with this was its low level to the bench and the difficulty in holding it at varying angles. I could only use a vise to hold it vertically
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gtyuyFks5TMKU8ah3M2TJt7vUBHmamXHspEMwQgYsLICZiKTAXGlftPejY-yzxK9s4vEmIJzvlN5Mo6dvXI2NteFA-eFUQSh-K67eHR6Oemhdth0mY5wi40rNMidv8609wpcHB7xrB5IsNdhU2Izkpr-68hwhskU3lsmba6nPHh9sd5zHKxff0eAYyD_hII6aaY_csBeS8F9p3R_xT755qkmnwXx3Liy2cSc7FCi-03QAqsa7_j3wlnsHibDJt1P6mxF1LrVfRVqMei21zy0ZOl8lU7WbLdiQrn3n2l04i7tGS1HZDac9E3dQNRSYgaRvxfmpvZo55h9hs0QUOSFQADPuy-AVQsiMYdV395I6466_HBnVu_g3awdp7fK0L-qt965gAIXS6JCOfmmej1Irm_MhUllpAVxUiazVDE2xXNw4pEkbAHZ3oGL6T9xytTg_exkC1YfHnWysnQTGVyIHmdmiUhpJeHknsgUGtFNq9L2w96UDMDR9KO1QmW8_U6yFJanMepRugStaCDP1ZZ2tEF9q4DrzSVJxjaRkZ3Wgk3-pPqTnIvCf1eL-HKBlkN3xXpKXLriX-aI1CYvSpmZavm2LLGSCBmB0IUXtO3K2r__06vZq4Qh=w1224-h918-no)

It was pressed into use on the Nieuport build with a similar degree of restriction so as the time approached to get that top wing on I began to think about modifying it to allow more movement. I thought about buying one of those 360 degree stands that Lance has but as usual the last minute casting about in the workshop led to a 'I really ought to buy a swivelling vice' kind of thought (something often considered when the need arises but a way is usually found around things and the moment is lost) Then the penny dropped.
Long before the Camel build I bought a piece of kit for the engineering workshop 'because it was cheap' (twenty quid) and looked purposeful. No, that's right I've never used it todate! Bingo! the lights came on. Two drilled holes later and my little balsa fixture is transformed :D

Modified to take the SE5's wider wing and a new fuse support first
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WmN7sZkZ7VvNQ6Y1ruTiLdNMPxEKdGbESiaLs_HRa2_-QMYEo8_hEb4dZXB5CuluLzYbj_thwkglagquYI8yY2LYaeH32DA3YICX6eLI0H5D6Ifh3POsYvmr9Cmjkm_AjXaDPEcpug65kweHwN8IDlgB8LAg-lSuE46dtZQ1j1hpNZYQyVyznfplvXYCv61TudMIAKDc0rM6xdN8bBwh1HZobOr9UawAsRuMO6NmEuWO-qC_NLJE2daat8pCv_qC5825xgSnR0NCtpVao704Pskyn7qOmlI7Xq2BWaRzeu0W4EvbO-g8MvaCkhsehqtPpDHeISxGwrD5BwwIgERw3jm2rjso7wcndwmdSa90KehBrbKMmuUYZY0g_aILdj4hlgjJieSVEayy3PFowUVrSwCgvndK9BaKibRJhAmqW8k68ZYjxda1xSgpM7Q9E7YO5RQStaCVjs3K0XvjQdR_h8r5WxUOOpDlrIDEb0VWSGpWKp17fbJutTlvx9c1wc--WTlSgYpF3tH7EXkRNqDLwJicZwuSGjAjpGaL3xOI5kzV4FDMuAYSXoxrLpB5HYZ6wg6mbBPYv0xHVlqX0JTqTMd7AAvSpYV1ch3HyjjT7D_AyiOnxyjE=w1224-h918-no)

It was bolted to a 360 degree swivelling table that can rotate through 90 degrees.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aCbk3lSmMs-fvYLshtDrqtIXoyVTX6a0aL-w-3mVenINPor5dRRXW2VEZYWGE6SisNa6-MclLB5uHhdG__lZt7v2ub3HZojzlwN5gO6CN56ZKVgQRi_MZe1Zw6wpbTfD6SeQeKMshJsUBbVZ9CW8W-bnPEMTxHWyggjNPhv_doteH4KGZxZGjigHk3gz5ZFa6HNWaFo9OtAoWEq3bCvBALb9bNWVVlWEXZrCMELh8dntgx0QPc4ze7AisYd7PnpLzmv5CKzk8Ae0qSvud5Mr74bC8AdS1KjjCbLnIHWwMjb-FahErw_nmADfvA5lo_5M_7F4PMM5vcPRllUzU3bZmfByqoWatfrGdPVVNKH118YW0wBBI86XLHXU-XRharVbpaxwOyy4MXK13uBQwZU6x4PjdXPz1NKNm6wOJa9PGTek8fm39NykvwpKV3Jz6wsBgSDD98mDtivH7L_enJVQRplvLB2G2JZ3hZzq1Ml3zrUPNADaVs6QNuabYjcH6oCxVrB4TvL9AGFxwl6iYrOYerkgSH4WUFXE_91td4CzqzxEesCKemPqeQEltpdecMKbOs8hPnxscXudwgeEp-YHQNHpeCxOr_Cak6ywh8H-UlQBKLCbiquV=w1224-h918-no)

It must have been a very expensive kit in it's day as it is precision made with both movements having a drag associated with very close tolerance fits. It has no apparent means of adjusting those fits.  It presents a firm but gentle resistance to movement but stays firmly where left. There are two very small locks to hold it but in this use are simply not necessary. There is no makers name but I would imagine that it was designed either for inspection work or more probably for use on a surface grinding machine.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ggx6vfOxciZi_ihIvWGm0JGbqh0-TyF-s23WqxRRrynX6_hTqWfMSZ0aFX7qcBBVoSV9C6SdfuvshsMTh4FJZc1duB6DAUBV2QBRGcAFc9o0Hs2Nh-mCR3VOuaT5GaB06o0w45H7snxPdjKwX8cwSGly2tUmT6NspkAOrDbTqtZoKXlPWnIF3N8CFGIVQE4fDGXKvdXHxmlKuzL9SV_F7r6Ysk2SSRYvTvJsN-n92jKj8aLWX_-wTwKHupYDnPM5kY0LnLhHftMb40-Nd7iY6QDCu7Arw85AN0N7QKSUEIjmMPcDFzqg86AY7oV6BqQYpm44rJFHNDWaqXZzlNXFpm0xKJg0U4IE1JWE0_rlxpF8bqBdDJ3tQeOIglijkMhG4NNL_pLh2MejsJSsuE2HfYDsXnFZHv07M31DngQvbRH_x0lN0JVP7CSf1xHh2qCGyafO9BmuSSR6bSezzuPRCgltexnkJGyFGZeNooPmaJYEV_209kiSlziQu1XVuEzJtkiRrfdc3MhzboVg8JuSGxPAwrypow-CtLwYLKZQzVSAfoKv-W7z0GVGB_pd6K5ntih_pVGSRxfzjH5ZwyzYgIvX_RMmZ7UoRWxQt1ibqGqhRjIj3ySJ=w1224-h918-no)

As you can imagine it's rather heavy but that too is a bonus as on a piece of non slip mat it's not swanning off across the bench
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tBMGQhyc2gtArtQHUosgVl2Qq11lYojte2wZLtEBxprK64xbFizrGmNvSdb-_Ly0u014WZs-XIYfHPxcAGYdaI-zRiFi1_uqh9-7P3hHeMjlpA9uKZmf0wPEgnJUyuWZ4ZwhuZDBTsIXfmJ1zVx2RYrWLJNOXH0gAgIwdFoHwNgVcxBQmDeWXs3576-QUZ_V4uR7XWyyAk0_ubSaV3jjnX1Jk-Zm6L_vIL_yuOJu-8atw0_mBxElEOggq45JO7tx5-u3rVG9makBJkW77FaGglS84Z-NMvLxxl9NRA7R_Toqh54cSO56rq1YsQUxDKsU9xOPeuriwGS0N21NGPreSLj4nmu3nOl64LqT4GXqu1yXBGV5w32j0l7pPNCPUffTKsRkVsVBaCDekg5QM7Bac-j2bdp5Pz3lYG9qcb1YZzRhBOwR_GCnnWQ5X-RriFLCApMErmsCYXTVisqSo-W2J4jNWCYuE0t_vel4i8Sx08t-iVDasv4rhBQr8VM4yJQ_JyehPPgp-rZZABv9gqD2jv2bFKHN_3MH7cWbAtIq8EZsJvJI5zTyU3rWQFAJMhFcRpJzLed2j00emGyXgYtiN96-Qrsw1lYmISNE-Bi4dL4zJp8byzP5=w1224-h918-no)

It's been fully field tested - well the tail-plane is rigged so far  ;) but the initial impression is I'm bloody chuffed. To think it sat under the bench without a thought through the previous two builds - well that's gotta be an age thing ::)

Nothing left for it now - that top wing is next!

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: lcarroll on December 31, 2016, 09:51:27 AM
Brilliant Tug, same principle as my "Third Hand" however a much more attractive price!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 31, 2016, 05:46:42 PM
Hi Lance, It could be considered a mite overkill I guess but as you say at the right price - at least it's found a use  :D

I'm off to the pond now for a bit of (chilly) sailing - hope to be back on this tomorrow

Happy New Year to you and all those looking in  :)

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on December 31, 2016, 10:32:18 PM
Your innovation on using that piece of equipment to make a rotating jig is Brilliant! The SE is looking gorgeous to say the least. What I can see of the tail rigging looks perfect.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on January 02, 2017, 08:21:31 PM
Hi RB, Rick, Thanks for looking in.  Yep, have to say again, a bit overkill but such a boon - it really has made things so much easier.

I used a mixture of rigging material - monofilament for the landing wires and Model Kasten for the double flying wires.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VRBfSPvrwK-GirCrl_rblxHRLuTlhsi5dHgkSatc2rWPBFdCYPJ4cHbaVNMOvtdWpk8QlkyUqQlHosVD8gw4avutbwQ5_5W5aKDbQlDKxY3bgxHinte-6_aEHKwqT3_jHGQi0PhN8oRm7YbutmOUr33hYIT7ZBUF6So3Cz4U7ueaz1Rrnr8Y5dF2NqeOrlETopHWPLNEeiSIBqItFU18qA0RzclY5r6I1CPOLf90DHYZjv9w_DtjAyPtb_Ujw8BuKPObcckFHZYf8zM33ops3dps2jMFj_3i9_PPy5EqYwuNEghbFnu3yIuVuB8jiYBNHRW7WcAhx1XAA9Ut3wou8LrW-vCvmMXvzH10HCD-k2n9I5LFwP7P7W_BJvH4HAW5Z3GANMuveNFvFdyH1JTbNehcWOUWyzL4FRdBrdpMZGo7zG5nwdFnUH1TVz1IMHLPhQpsX-eZLpyU2Y907irKtmINWCp38vvwgZnqMQnH3objnUt85y8Tp7qpn92Y-E5ZE02I6oIu2RNFnrRHf0hahkTSmdIm6_QT4pfRlaJ9uirSaaK_iP5X1IXny4lgEZcWLKzZJbA_otuA9uRB6I7iuoeIMCGZqx3vQrnxbrmp_vb_S-kWteM5=w1224-h918-no) 

I did try to fit the wing with it still in the fixture but that really did prove difficult to get all the struts in the right place at the right time .....
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rvc8a5eEz1sL289ygb3niA61e4hbrn92Nr72_QXlb0GOBqcu9eZJqnXFp9BJhq_mrRFrO4ObFNYuYxaeV24jD9hBYudwxwt9KhUZREpqJRmFzOIirN61uqB6_grC0A1TjAx6pNwGaqSL7nSWV_H7ZnsJ8LCt1Q1r7lb_CCP5GvS1Vr2ZsS6MxzuoiLG8DfK9vwznsuzzcJw5riMEoxy8TGjd8az5LucnAYRSqKva4yRim-UrowRA8AjGHHUZpFSAr2di4OIqv7gCQ5-tF_48SaVQrBSvLYeLDOlnG3GS5BQADAzxioed6COwCHbxmglA2Xw5rlz06UVPBzcCG55177Zxbm2rNE6haWvmYKWiZdWuVGN9isCZOtK-0DugDrDD1Z1IwvyvGelgl4Jprvws7mf1uszFYwUI45swZwLPIvqQRx9QFkfZtzosaqmVmDLJHY3zHSHCtR64udwHuPYwPvSUtnlba2Bev997iS5JXPj-OSYH6QUphmjoC3ilTzU-5cISuLbvgZw_g9cdiclokQAPFBw_jKssPLIXtC9POmfGEBYJfLbCEYO50hiaXqf6AapKC4wRl64_1WzecTEAHJF5gvqAoQu4bDHUDQuOWSKb8djR95Y=w1224-h918-no)

.... so in the end I resorted to turning it upside down on the bench with the centre section supported with a small block which made the task very straightforward
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vcjjR3X46gCIJxAOzoaAiN8XtR-razE4adki1s6uCicR1_3vNJZtT5tPG0vwhetKcvPm5el5BMLVK1PNf9kuuIcd22rscTqTUMz1QlJrfSWx1X98BCLo9y6rP1Dt09hcW2mK4zOwPTYwNSMzCak4LQpx0cF0zGPmK3uNydKmOSktAsDHL-xq7E7zJjxPF5I_Zefw39rKUZDWPKe89SvtQCk5aYKsK3uEKQEPzRzdLupO3wpQOZOznQs0wRp91A2k2YeWjQ90WD-HRLdGP62LBpbyOdeK6EY0F2MCWn_BrgvCZmqoezvcw64Fl1oFN1yBBezz7m0xFbbnsSOsW3Ik8LXnBAZuVNAGZXyhdNBYmaXqb66YkCAuo3VYbQ25jj89t-uc-8m4Y4LETtP0XVfwIt2amiuJHeO58Z03tZeU8zxymrDaIl9GjvpkqERxDUlTBfFZP6IPeT4fIyhZmcwaEMn-DfTsYZ-tJHkft0q1pO6lz6LgggKyS6UVNll0UitMNUzqLBhvq01pZw5Y8oOElbQXWW4VzJ9DIBpNQVFc7IqDDsP8TEP15G6LWI4GAwUMcDrLaQvrHqF29KfAk9LXM0OUFQLx0AwLzggT6FoMH-GqaiLFnLfy=w1224-h918-no)

I had previously came to the conclusion why the Camel wires slacked so badly. I did not have the landing wires in enough tension (I brought them through the wing and just hung a small weight on and glued them in situ.) Once the top wing went on and everything settled down after a few days, the weight of the top wing had pushed the lower wing downwards, slackening off the double flying wires - even tightening them by heating them has not improved that. So, how to get those landing wires tighter? I did the following on the Nieuport but wanted to see if it would work before saying anything. They are still as tight as could be wished for so I tried it again on this build ...

The rigging line was brought through the wing (0.3mm hole)  and then returned leaving a loop under the wing. On the end of a piece of  of 0.2mm copper wire (I used a very thin Trumpeter saw blade) a 'U' is formed and nipped up close then this is looped over the mono filament loop under the wing
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8gleYnQnLd8OUhKIU2LH5nSXsDiBm_06wspYckiQQOWJ4SwYxM1XnVEenXebJUyfIKv5Se4kFuUBT-aGRjyT0ypYXm0UouGFOrglVjfLJ33BFwCH9vsGiGsYjKvcucTVVlbev4bE911MLIJN3YD78H25QCrcn-a0J4uZOTZ0Fs05SytPjZPaSxXy91WFWEs9Pu8TbwWGON_s3gq3TBBWfDkTz5ZMbp0rUeoXDrTYZCo0e2osh2mZTGDgkK89ogI6VzOKqMamTe7gVppsxBFGlPkfgacThchHXUtvEzdtlv0o-NUu_HpoI681tNR1TaiyVNJQZZDCFJ75Cx2cW8JoXGB1XQFo88I_-kqHejLxcFYk0DU02i733HUEjy-MnBDvSWnFys1dzkL0SF3dCbGqWByd49gKbslcDud3tf7Z4y7hXETrbRFMWylSdFhec8br-vY4BX8AoK1PXx-4y1_EURhurjGzennWQDn4NrJIpx54awcdHxFIh_rdlTMr7GR-5goImTwdF3k3RcSpEWgnFZ9n7C1xtsWxKtjk6h9QeLtnXciwW8MBnZggznlhTh8vA3PDW4m_2nS7giF-3yEf4C421iW7to_mlGfTEBCT3An56mngTDax=w1224-h918-no)

By pulling on the copper wire against the monofilament being pulled in the opposite direction this kept the rigging line tight as required until finally pulling the wire loop tightly into the hole and so locking off the line. It was then consolidated with a small drop of CA either side.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/RqO3w9aC-sMx_E_AmFuUEWM3-zK3qm9yIXBcsCKo_Awbc3NGe2EW4Ta-2Y6Am3L9Mr6B1TmCuBhupuqBuQndcKyq1Sk0RY4SAVAmeRRZ2bphioycGdqIBIDAhena41-waNgjbwMXcXyU1V2ip1mYEDUZUmZHDzOiei-o44JsqaREBWD2KZD6OkyMoB8wqlTo-DqMH6UPa8PV9mgh1ROXkHqpxtw9ccD6DBTcxApgCoUHVDFCi-LygQYHbUrC3hKkXSoYjSI2M1D83NE_WCxq9HFEo2ETRjZv12WbzXBAKkDBDhudXxevfFhChsbnMKxCx8StA-vJhRfrVzLnPy_1iwlGzN95aAT2glcwKvNlSNoCq4dPZn5LmLCDORlLDYW96x0xq-f_Zz2_oE1ZyI6ktlLhIKg4SG0_uKmWRTBOAoj3wuUtA2QRL-vr6HTRVTQ_wIRZgvDYBRcW8b0TJ6jaWGYNWFIGLBQT8Cfhpls77P2yOiTcmxevh3_cRyE-5t_hzafQq26u-bTevIq6rKeUulvCya9XJ6EvS7x47CtBtpIp1IRoHyhjI0Z_DESTEJjHHlu0MCsy7ZsdcOjJ4y_NuHN1ZUd5V7-pQx8ncqmbPZ70kQ0Aetmx=w1224-h918-no)

I decided that doing double wires like this might cause a problem in one being tighter than the other so used Model Kasten 0.2mm line for the flying wires. Just '2 thou' difference but it looks a lot to my eye but they do have to be painted as yet so that may be where it can be disguised a little. I have not put any tubes on to represent the tensioning devices but this will be done using paint as used on the Nieuport.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/g8Arf2lyBmH5CZPmCEHV1dP48erYhUGoXElDuzK6TIp66F3HnggjyaXopr2jvEqEGHxDYILR_JpHKo34wZl62chrUXZ_nXk755qdKIJLPufkUc7Pm6bUsw88cn3yL9tz9X3Vv8wI6TRvbcRY8XWqW-buKHCTFhA6dDcWBwa-O7rpb4Eit9tunbYYTvTbMTvEAZMfITP_6mO8PtwvghtDs-r1_3hcT_tBHwnDYEbppQZu61IanTuLRAJrKBfwh9SqvkhNbuMCDZOOlSj8cUZu65A-nsLen2YjGh4xhTeB3uQsyTLOt3BxIw64fJ2CFAhpkRzAsppkZZkKjs8tQ_pZCdECRLelzuFQPy-SRofw8I-qTbth8y44-XFRa4cCISFz4sS6CWk0boz9JQiZGwLHDoKNKLiJpaPUgzdqBYyHw_4yvPQqJxOxCn9afGeHraA9iDmTG2S0zr7SKx2I-QvYLB60oZ6ZpjC888wMegJSkuIsM1g2UOATdRT2rL9qjigAyn22zSlngnut586Iqzpes-JrACq_R7WBC2VhK8msZFzjzyvp1nQsjXR7jx8YlGKpZXZI5TnIL2gDnj8LgB60Il8HD8566QdAqxUe2XA93WFwB7t5djeJ=w1224-h918-no)

Well that's it - I usually post last thing at night but I was whacked last night so now I'm off to make a start on the base and hopefully finish off the rigging

Regards - Tug


Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Borsos on January 02, 2017, 09:17:51 PM
Oh what a lovely Se5a! This model became really a masterpiece. I really like your way of subtle weathering, exceptional!
I am also used to post at night when I finished my building session, just to see minor or maior flaws in the morning ... not the case here!
Best wishes
Borsos
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Manni on January 02, 2017, 09:44:44 PM
Brilliant work!
 I love the subtile weathering that brings so much depth into the plane. Great!
Manni
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: TobyCoulson on January 02, 2017, 10:17:31 PM
Great work Tug. Another masterpiece in the making. I do like your bespoke model holder. The rigging looks excellent.
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on January 04, 2017, 07:51:49 PM
Hi Borsos, Manni and Toby - thanks for looking in and those encouraging remarks  :)

No pics I'm afraid but I have had a bit of a set back.

I more or less finished the rigging yesterday - just the strut cross wires to do - and the more I looked at it the more I felt the model Kasten 0.2 mm line looked overscale. I'm convinced it was growing in thickness as I looked at it  :o

In the end I thought maybe it would look better if I painted it. I used a silver marker to deposit a drop of the ink on the bench top, picked some up with a brush and applied it. Oh bloody dear  :( It made it look even worse. I quickly got some Isopropyl  Alchohol on a brush to remove it which worked fine until I 'pinged' the line and deposited faint silver spots on the wing - Aaaarrrrghhh!!!

Stopped at that point - came in for dinner and had a long think. Went out and snipped the offending lines off back to their attachment points. It immediately looked better but how to re- rig it? Intention is to re-drill those points and fit mono filament. One thing it proved though is just how good the attachment was in the top wing - I couldn't pull those out even with small pliers before the rigging broke. My approach to get sufficient tension in will require drilling through the top wing now - just hope I can disguise the offending exit points well enough.

Ah well what will be will be - at least I haven't broke it (though it did come close to a flight test!)

Back soon with an update - improved or wrecked remains to be seen

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Manni on January 04, 2017, 08:37:31 PM
Oh Tug, that sounds really bad :o
For my taste the rigging looked quiet good, but at least it should fit your taste.
I think, you will manage this issue but drilling will require to repaint the upperwing (hope, I'm wrong). That is the reason why I always take Gaspatch turnbuckles., so I don't need to drill through the wings.
Fingers crossed,
Manni
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on January 05, 2017, 07:40:25 AM
Hi Manni - thanks for the concern  :)

I've been mostly distracted by working on the base today but I did manage to successfully drill out all the existing rigging line holes and get the rear flying wires re-rigged though I still have to tension and glue them in the top wing. I had to drill through the wing as said but I think I should be able to disguise the four very small areas without too much problem and with having to re-paint the wing.

It's getting close to the end now - back soon

Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on January 05, 2017, 09:41:35 AM
Tug,
I am happy to hear that you sorted out the rigging!! Your SE5 is a real beauty!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: boggie on January 05, 2017, 10:15:37 AM
Pleased to hear you have overcome your annoying little hiccup Tug.

Great work!

As we knew you would.  :)


Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: lcarroll on January 05, 2017, 02:24:28 PM
Tug,
I am happy to hear that you sorted out the rigging!! Your SE5 is a real beauty!
RAGIII

+1 Tug, nice recovery and great work!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on January 07, 2017, 03:48:40 AM
Hi Boggie, Rick and Lance,   Thanks for looking in - good to hear from you  :)

Well Manni, the re-rigging, despite being a bit fraught at times, has been successful and the model is now completely rigged. Drilling holes through the top wing did not prove as disfiguring as I anticipated and on the PC10 areas is virtually undetectable unless you look directly at it. The other holes are in the roundel so I have to match the blue as yet but I'm hopeful.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/t-Z0NTDflT5CUhoj1TU9wlYiPhOf6fxj_npmwzGAIIKQTMUyZYYnpjKzPFr3p0S_7Y1oVcRqjsPFXIJlIMjimA3gpb78ji6caVPKI89qfWpur6m0hkYmAg0-nts-pBiQWvRCbNZOpDdnCtrh8n6jsMqrwa6uMncQ1jxTXdULS2o957QlYU0pFQRUKiBftvRHvFBeuHBjtmHKpGa8t9tkK01cJ_8QLy_E6ikh3zvaWGmk2degHX0IP245F1taQFjbDiufQ76DTVPHdREJQZeXS8RjUcTyGCKduoD7PRRfO29hWv15ePvmg8Mgrq3eMtShUsza7PNBKu6EozIJkrPyTi00uc7jywBm5OBa_uu9Cy4sMtbgIdV1qwcZrSLlKJOVsqCgxpjRQGRZRP5EmNM0ivx_fRv0RRHxS1VWQsM-1rF3uvtNMsmWeJl8Fj4E8KuK5V600vCFfQvoE45ztID3wCGVGdxj_7ItPKgCaKnNOE7Qp20Kv4IfXKOzP9jRcgnagW8--w4R0Qn98gdLu504J0JrP9JSzRVc2FANwru8Um6gEUu129ONT0hC442JgPoYYClDLNiBUQsXnhpIJ72FVEkQeHpp5cXEmBklY-pmFYr3vH_b3HGu=w1224-h918-no)

The lines, pulled tight, were CA'd then pegged with pared down cocktail sticks, again CA'd after pushing in the hole.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nU1-92cgngofYhnph0oHLAV9KtSShin9BHK9JsMvGuGlBmPueTSGT_qvnrTjT3pRFbCwKN_IjaOU6uXQw8dN05l4Pvn40mHLWyDKE4Hmi_sMJ6OIQYboL6jVTAuyzg0sDC4gxsXkXaKJlcRwFQvXf1YSCheOokxttGAmngn0B8p4oW7H88WEQ7OB0kI_4lBfsuTjQvg3o2C4z2zEdtQePNeUY4_oNe-k9MU6U97vlE8go8_i0r-Y4xbeYCDfzCwz9j9CbQfR2M2_IdaGUUNdbhZrwQZvz_7BwyKQo-0NfKBR2M5mxMx7YmS7Kw_VlfxdwLdx4IYDhhrkX5mdaSQDHoAlg-Rmnzk-QWp5s16RfeTLW3DpxNWFwtEoQQQqz_kLMdl3o8F9NxsTKJQ2Zt9ULzeM2nUG7a8wX3FOp7BC8GIYfEmziJZ0tj9rtlk5K-ufMzMz-DBrPrPn6lgP6YJB2ODQ7N-3Pqwg9Dh7VvHlyGbi52eIy3z_JQ1KOcx7WbzO46MUFv3uZualTLX-aktGEfapLQI65n17ZGb3t1CDUGa3tAC5qjGUO08SoS3SHGXGin3qTZxNQ7WgLZwqfOOb3-PhnNqnkjWl-rq3M10B_5x90p2xUYTt=w1224-h918-no)

Once all were in they were reinforced underneath with CA before snipping flush on top. Here's a sneak preview - apart from the top Lewis M/G and the Vickers front sight it's finished.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/g1EcghxU-MQKd5nTeOUxPECJqer9hfkwARHxrxMKIT4SnhRlfmqLsWAT3i4LCPw-kyayoqY7UF1ZufDrWBi-5LPNfHICCgZuAG25MwuSH1bIDBr5ORoTENNtaZfM_S7rpv5s6J3CE4mxEtCqwujLkk9rUnlJflbtXs0Re-ceJ9Kamg8I5q2de7dyI2-P3MXU9CUSA21q3oB7FCuA5d8dBrcny3652AJHBRVhxxcN6FyFcvU7OmHRMWxBfRSqk6EN0rIlXTyPZ8B_IMDQQO9-N0kEplwa1Avj96TtGTcJ9PYXdvq1fgfoBOKUNUIRNA4l2xxli0buvy7CLJoswbQ6fPmbmG9TC1wYUt_LiUVHWCGFqPn0UJ0Fmjz_g5L_LxZbvteoaR7LEducROE-TcUMC7jBFzgvn_LIcJ0IJMHR226C9edWDOaLVnNKVGdJXCzEj22UW4LEqvvF2GyA1omQr6Eay7HYzlRxW2bIDZ3EsZF89Xw4PrgQDUY_yF0l0B-lvD3dh3x7Yhjx_-gF7a89Gvwx-3ct1CLKmZkF7xxNS0oKrgODLyORsMFFMUvW96YejyAQ2mzVvn_gHE7KBD2w4V4DDNF2lLGLiTMBzl5g3op9K01HMA06=w1224-h918-no)

The base is near done and awaiting some more grass tufts as I ran out with just a inch or so to do so, unless they turn up tomorrow, I guess it will be Monday before it's finalised.

Off to a model engineer meeting tonight but I shall have a nice'plastic' smile on  ;)

Regards - Tug


Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: boggie on January 07, 2017, 08:32:28 PM
Tug, you certainly deserve to have a happy smile on!  ;D

Very cleverly "fixed".  :)

Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Alexis on January 07, 2017, 10:18:55 PM
Hi Tug  :)


Missed the last few up-dates on your build , love the finish Tug  :) Really looking forward on seeing her on the base all finalized  :)



Terri
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: jeroen_R90S on January 08, 2017, 12:24:16 AM
Nice save -looks good! :)
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on January 08, 2017, 09:36:20 AM
Simply outstanding rigging, especially considering what you had to do to change the diameter!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on January 10, 2017, 04:08:29 AM
Hi Guys - thanks as usual  ;)

Well it's fundamentally finished - last piece went on this afternoon but I still have the wheels to weather to gel with the base and some pint tweaking on the rigging terminations. The tufts for the base arrived today but unfortunately the wrong ones had been sent so more are on their way so it will be later this week before it's on it's base.

In the meantime three pics - a bit dark, the lighting in my workshop is not great for this sort of pic but you can at least see what it looks like. I'll get the photo lights down from the loft which will improve things a tad but not till it's completely finished.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/x3LP723RGlQ_4MnnhH9qr60WjBcfG1Ep5bdAdWYP82Y670TPGVxvUQtol17MPCkYcX4wriCU6DQDsocvUcQe89m-cU4Q4VhiRkUTxhZ2SIJwGxjETDKhqgFl4XWPUEb7nOFlUZqYYvzx4kCCuK6AfnEVJjrK3qjSV0w9kFH0Lxpc6EHLrjQwMLuYt-qoreYeFq7WBrOFAW9WWNOyQ4nzsLPHwq-M-ZOhkhV2RspFQ0-1iIBTt9RYJxWLkDsjK17MN09kBz-OEFZBWAaiDOvrYoi_-9gmQsKbtV38UCXRQWRhVTEXBKXeXYp39NNiEHqxQNCWG0q5MXSbZw0TI-J9BRUh4GpxETeQthoJt-6GkF5Hn1ygkrUtlzhk1NULWwdjdDQy1k9ombVMph4zu9Q1R6JhfBLDYJGoqQ5wVNev04O4ShTAmJzahLV447sotEjEIBL6WWiRE7etsdyWu6MDoy6adqpKgkgWLrDq45U-MbfBUYYrVUZk-hMw4lFptzgqsGoEL_DP6B3xnZm9TFnFhio1OoQX-sVbCVuTYl-wcQmb0IlHp1fqdWVlqGMi7xlfr1qxFJKcU8Pc9FC7R3MOi9qR1fUcbOU1K-MINGmo_9SUAwsxbMuH=w1224-h918-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CGgSceNg8Q96-n5FQleqFgQJcqvKI6XHDpC-7YxqkdtSN3nCGLD0W9Bkmv4p-X9TmsjvK3oQwpsc3DhmKz2GHmLzbmsOemv57FFsX6oYt9AQw7Ji-yqPPKS6mx8yqhsfzRuZ4DGpU3JJEoKSmQyv0nYD6y2fOexAqMh4DJL6kohF4fQO-T3WL7RyqGQ7B6SO7m5xkMBxDsH9zy9YCFIr1YJeKIWnc0O6P9IVTMaPR5nf0ctkilK-HW-KtxfKM1h9aOcMTUYXSbTaOOrelCOSiNRDjERUIcIA4CRVVgf7L2JatP8kizw2Q6o8Tk1yBINcPGU-oHQNYCfAvXa904X3NbEp77V2cKBGzeafz1SCvALSZ4Tc6EFmFVKnC0eduZ5NIBR6t0FBebiKphxbaDQyW_L8TtLZUdPyUs4XqaOS9bfQ8rx-ozmZ_NcbinBuvxr5ZZNzgO2OqyoBLGux6rVJvAx--4VWCTfnt7ylQoziUkrZ3SYoWKv14MHAZkLxzjmC7nCitELWmraW0Du_AINJ6srf69k3H8nOos26cfaAQPDJx0-LG1MbwheKzZW3NNOAWXPnDrKjr_SNuimQ5KiMBdeffiNMvC9SdXHfyEnZlMgzQMhDzyK4=w1224-h918-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/PFRhz-7lFgrppDmK74OF16SoFGEryWtlryL1n5Bs4Y6Gs_p7uuFO3iGDG9HP93SBjiplK1C8SFz7GXWmIWJmu-v7NzNICgkmGkYvM927OZ8aHfwqZitHhvIFpgVeLYqW9Us22gTCPD7lvMkg2gHiE6MDBGQCe1j9IDkkbXV-g14bhfTnPvJ8RSY2jpgeoaWrAVqsjLpY_Qw39CrFhDNfzwwfJQ0C03h075aLbobYCKtDzXOY2DD4VopHFOxuJMKMflX89Zm_S_KuOSb597R0V6UfaxkbYEzr4qONl0zhIkfK4AXIQvlmZq2gFHP0fXNx2Mb595gwj6-JToAORNjhbZc2HIoFet-3Hzfuh60NPhx8utQnlcbA2-tX0b3oozvpDmSu1bHq2QFUEbZBmawO8bPDOqqSiVemHioXSkh2x5c-IkDn1TPfKq-c6HdI_ARjez7sXEG-3Qrpo7AyvOkux-TVTxsqeWEj_Z0nlBlemfZVeNpz-QDxxWvr543sWPHwIXukruG7u-5WtCh2fUgZYRdl-akfae8VTsKvKjA-3_ch_kRcxMmAefvyCoV8UK_xQAp65iRYmcsXrD8--1CdIaTP8pm5klhrCRUCGnVu2agaRcr2SiCb=w1224-h918-no)

It's probably time to call this thread at an end as construction per se has finished so I'll post finished pics on 'Finished Models'

Just like to say a big thanks to all who looked in and offered good advice to ensure I got things right, and to those who looked in whether commenting or not - thanks for your interest too. I found this, my first Wingnut Wings model, to be very pleasurable to build but have to say the end result is not quite as satisfying as the Special Hobby Nieuport as that required a much higher degree of modelling input

Regards to all - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: lcarroll on January 10, 2017, 05:07:12 AM
   Absolutely lovely finish Tug, looking forward to the detail shots in Completed Models. I've got another of these as my first one was heavily modified to McCudden's B4891 with the "bubbled" cockpit, heavier landing gear etc. and I want to do one like yours in standard configuration. It's been an education and a pleasure to follow your Build here.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Borsos on January 10, 2017, 05:09:28 AM
Fantastically built kit, Tug. Very very nice! You are a master of subtle weathering!
I see it is time to get back to the book shelf and do some research for the Ni 27 as you need some fresh fodder  ;)?
Best wishes
Borsos
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Nigel Jackson on January 10, 2017, 05:12:42 AM
This is a very classy piece of work, Tug. I love what you've done here. Can you just remind me what product you've used for the rigging?

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: jknaus on January 10, 2017, 05:55:41 AM
Fantastic work there. Really enjoyed looking through this build and seeing some new ideas.
James
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on January 10, 2017, 06:23:24 AM
Superb results on your SE5 Tug! Your weathering techniques were educational to say the least!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Juan on January 10, 2017, 06:55:05 AM
Wow, that is a gorgeous build.   :D
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Manni on January 10, 2017, 03:48:46 PM
Beautiful done, Tug.
A Masterpiece of modeling.
Chapeau,
Manni
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on January 12, 2017, 04:30:18 AM
Hi Guys - Thanks for all these kind remarks  :).

Just to say I've had a couple of days having a real good clear up while waiting for these grass tufts for the base. They've still not arrived and I'm out tomorrow so it'll be a day or so yet

Nigel - I have used black 6 thou diameter mono filament 'invisible' sewing thread. It worked well now that I have figured out how to tension it and anchor it securely. Having done it I don't like the black however. Comparing it with the clear, pre coloured with a silver pen, mono filament on the Nieuport it appears too 'prominent'. Pity this material isn't available in a silver/grey colour but at least I now know the direction I'll go in on this part of a build in future.

Smaller lines - inside the cockpit and the strut cross wires, were model Kasten 0.06 mm line.

Thanks again - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on January 14, 2017, 04:20:48 AM
Before I pop some pics up on the 'Finished' thread I guess I ought to finish this one off with the base.

As usual it's on the ever diminishing supply of Fire Retardant MDF (hence the pinkish colour) with the base made as for the Nieuport.
A surround of 3mm square balsa tacked to masking tape, back filled with Poly Filla first then once  set covered randomly with PVA glue before spreading various grit sizes into the glue. Spray painted with acrylics then darkening oil washes before a dry brushing of the highlights. The grass tufts, though having a self adhesive backing, are stuck in place with PVA. Possibly a tad overscale the tufts average 4mm high which would  make them about 4-5" in full size - "The grass needs cutting Sergeant"

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Qv-y5G8sEEdGzLPK8QNTEii4XfzHStz3RG7cKzNqfdbdYQ5IodhESopiFURUTTcjnWPdss-4cdFoEfkjvjw3zfQ7ydOrSkEZGQ2vvH1HlYjGyfNyDxSFG1UMIEkQbCgr_br2tQLAk5o3dB9Z3HtFzDov6lHpzEomzND7Dg4V_IFCXm99n9QG5IBJnMJKXokgZwDth8fScsKBGRUV59wPysecGbXwepY4fbxE1kpFfVgYre1JhSEqdpqQ6yoRllHepTrRi9GzPb11Ybe2YVzDl4k69R1fzTcXDJ6U2Te9sDfEDmbnwWuyChPFIQ6q4YvA1cnnLLEWRZ_hpKxMWDk7x4DN1aO3pfYGDgBiS3CfUfJZZFK4KEFZANsE9b2QWFEkF1svv7ZeKVtMo1-QNPeIX8A6wggpFQ1BcFJg2r6j7VJBEkASTWTzpD9CZB3TkaFMk_wHuk1TfKC_mEKb9JCyyrrO7lKfKu7JepWoIXyCn1UptC8busXNzxKlKwxGSxRmBMnP9NqU8B_yk6Nv6BzRJOI9_PRx6GepbHQ0aVyvJ8J1CZ110F93ckzoJ88pAGfo42WUNPlBafYXaTKZzh34QYZLrjD_S0-tPSauV7vAanGXmSfdv2hX=w1224-h918-no)

The stones seem out of character with an airfield but studying the images some of the fields were very stony indeed but they just add another dimension to the base.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TnVwu8ePfHQPbXjM0l8XRPDL7s8_Ag-Q6wiTYzopGPe7U-CNx0ErU290gmgmurwebBqXamd87RAiTAtjiPwdi62iaKOFWW2MTrYu-tXFd_YvL2b8TJklN5SqKfPJnYZV7vR9ui71IoxYEIsydvKnLW7VbJR6g6m0_ZZBtjPd7QpmkfmwyNtXbF2nfHeGwRIN5Zo8d33N2fexEnfi-vEwudn8KirbyEGT5_mnUsDujzed5ZdeERiqL0ZX59J5DETVZipWqjgjl7CTgoCGBxD-vSbYVd4h3hEK8xIJ6MF8iD_lHHR1MhQ-H4oDWpg_d8Alf5tHF9PxPV2uZwnBsC_iJJTm8l7ukJBBTQD7YcIx5JR1G1bFqMzx48HcYKs4Q8-k9fRPDoKfI05nen5NE0rX10vq1QTp1pbykmeTcMTkBLYVmfsuduBEuKXIq09vJ_ge2MKN3zKZOmN5gfltQoutEPzPOJxiLNni0CZzAaufO2N8ICnXMoWSND6xL6A4lsNPRf8CgVz7llXOlpaHLg7ZVvNeAUk8I2r_aioYI91bU3KrEfJR2NP-l_DAVeHk1tc5FjZfub7mb0ktQh5Cxb-AvHPN4D-nmnvvVmHmi6e2_TxVtlCR=w1224-h918-no)


The tufts used were these - highly recommended (with the usual disclaimer)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/L2iwLBfpkxJ2N19VlPVlN-ZEkhyqVwsZd3KJ6jbkAOB2NZMuja2hbvoRBcQH1akwQCLT792qVC1kJhIE80jFWuTEUURvzCOJibtLsPsIVYeegmQspCdxXjctrJU2IK9t6GPpvnZNra6sS3lACuliCaiQw00U_LOYWahGN8RZF4f_eVh7bZH5fqooQE7eiFwoNyEYTrRmO9vWjj7S3GO1dB7og9uVZLU8B1uv1OzzLfSKHnbk97HG3JTo4fZg8OCPC81BANgXGAjO6_1s8iVsZYDy7-_xJ5TVHMNq0kNnRkqGuCn5Bi5d6vO-s1q20dTAvLa1o9xBG66yQ4Ytm7GyuEHiy3yCcahGQXa1ZAnUovghpZ8FSH7UHN33w-J3fX9-js_e6ySMY5qNU_kJf6XMJJUt4Aj1l6zpThRiQz1Ti782D05Z4zPfqYZ3QlGrmB6xiiN8RuoO8suBI8mVF9tipZNHOE9N7F-Q1XSraGiGwXQF4MzdH2Luvb9FSE4Ueq_EvQeQcGQqfe7THk5hL8fT6DgIWjIFNqVp8i-Xzb2MePWersAteSxc6WhYfajW0nKKT9vu67qv74UpRs53fQ1joxmJaYpvF4tqNEbQA29f6JYVp30B=w1224-h918-no)

Evening meal calls - I'll pop the finished pics up later.

That's it for this one folks - thanks for looking in

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Another Wingnut Wings SE5a
Post by: Suffolk Lad on January 14, 2017, 07:47:24 AM
Thanks Steve - pics of finished model have now been posted

Tug