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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: WarrenD on September 25, 2016, 10:26:31 AM
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WNW had their Camel on display at the All Japan Model & Hobby Show. Here's the HLJ report:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFumR3EUp6w&feature=youtu.be
The WNW Camel coverage begins at 20:53
Just thought you large scale guys would like this.
OH, BTW, they also had some nice stuff from Copper State on display too.
FWIW,
Warren
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Nice one Warren!
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Thanks Warren
It''s a shame that when some of the new model cars, motor bikes etc are so beautifully presented, the WNW Camel looks rather forlorn with the front port interplane strut missing.
Nevertheless, the CSM 1/48 Caudron which comes at the end of the shoot looks magnificent.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Thanks Warren for the link, some really exciting looking models shown there but shame about the Wingnuts Camel, what a let down.
Des.
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Thank you for posting this! The Caudron G iV looks exciting :)!!!
Borsos
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OK, so it wasn't just me then, was it? Now, I know WNW isn't Tamiya, Hasegawa, etc. but there were some pretty small companies there putting their products forward in a very positive manner. (Like some of you, that Caudron was something I want, but in 1/72nd.)
It was almost like they decided to attend as an afterthought and just took an overnight bag.
I dunno,
Warren
PS: It looks to be a great time to be a ship modeler. When I was a kid, I dreamed of a 1/32 B-17. Now that they make one, I've got no room for it.
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Thanks Warren. Poor old Camel, must have been someone with heavy fingers! The Copper State items were spectacular. The Caudron.....must have, must have, must have.
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Not a great effort to showcase their first release (still pending) in such a long time. It appears rather "plain" to me as well, not the eye catching crisp detail we saw with similar coverage of the Snipe for example. :-\ I hope the final product comes off a little bit better. On the other hand Copper State looks great!
Cheers,
Lance
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Maybe we will see the Camel sometime in Nov . I say the 16 of Nov it will get released just in time for the Christmas season . I'm surprised that they didn't fix the strut :o Other then that she looks good . Cockpit is nicely detailed .
Terri
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Not a great effort to showcase their first release (still pending) in such a long time. It appears rather "plain" to me as well, not the eye catching crisp detail we saw with similar coverage of the Snipe for example. :-\ I hope the final product comes off a little bit better. On the other hand Copper State looks great!
Cheers,
Lance
A shame about the missing strut. Perhaps it was too broken in transit to replace or lost altogether. This si the same "Test" assembly that has been up on their site for a while. It sys Second Test Assembly and that the final product will differ.
RAGIII
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I thought by now they would have had a nicely built and painted model to display... A rather forlorn battered example instead.
What did excite me more was Copper States bits for the old venerable 1/28th kits, life in the old dogs yet. (like me... some days lol). Would be nice if they offered an upscaled one for the Merit Driedecker though too.
K
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I thought by now they would have had a nicely built and painted model to display... A rather forlorn battered example instead.
I wonder if perhaps there are few staff left to implement this. We know that Dave has been transferred over to Weta and the last corporate picture showed PJ with only three or four people. They've hinted in the past that most staff were on freelance contracts.
This would help explain the sometime/never release policy on the Camel.
BTW thanks Warren for the link, Copper State looks like the most dedicated wwi manufacturer now, very tempted to to revert to 1/48 for that Dolphin!
S
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BTW thanks Warren for the link, Copper State looks like the most dedicated wwi manufacturer now, very tempted to to revert to 1/48 for that Dolphin!
S
I agree, Sandy. Looks like Copper State is the new King of WWI aircraft models.
Thanks for posting this, Warren.
Cheers,
Bud
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As long as they don't produce full model kits in 1/32 I don't see that , 1/48 is too tiny for me.
But their Cauldon is really exciting to me , would like to see that in 1/32 from WnW.
So let's hope for WnW's anual Christmas special .......
Peter
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I agree, Sandy. Looks like Copper State is the new King of WWI aircraft models.
Thanks for posting this, Warren.
Cheers,
Bud
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I'm sure WNW will do us proud.
We're incredibly lucky to have them IMHO. If it were not for Sir Peter's passion we would still be working with Roden's soft plastic, which although no bad thing, their kits cannot compare to what's coming out of New Zealand.
I'm a patient man. The Camel will arrive and others will follow.
Congrats must go to CSM. You guys are providing us with some great releases -- Well done!!
Von Nutter :) :)
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It must be a DR.1.....? ;D
von LivinginHope
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Please, Edgar, not another bl**dy Dr.I. We've got them in every possible scale from 1/144 to 1/8!
There were less than 400 of the real damn things and the Roden kit is perfectly good in 1/32 scale. The market must be super-saturated by now.
Please, please upscale your beautiful Dolphin to 1/32 and put me down for a couple. I'll sit them proudly beside my Roden tripes!
S
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If it's an Ilya Muromets in 1:32 scale you can put me down for one right now, what a superb, but big, model it would be.
Des.
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I'm underwhelmed.
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Let's try a little smaller and go with a Etrich Taube or a Hansa Brandenburg W20, or a Halberstadt CLII and and and....
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Let's try a little smaller and go with a Etrich Taube or a Hansa Brandenburg W20, or a Halberstadt CLII and and and....
Oh yes, Edgar, A Halberstadt Cl II or IV in 1/32 would be great! :) :) :)
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Please, Edgar, not another bl**dy Dr.I. We've got them in every possible scale from 1/144 to 1/8!
There were less than 400 of the real damn things and the Roden kit is perfectly good in 1/32 scale. The market must be super-saturated by now.
Please, please upscale your beautiful Dolphin to 1/32 and put me down for a couple. I'll sit them proudly beside my Roden tripes!
S
That would work for me although I think a Dolphin would be risky.It is mainstream enough WNW may do one someday.
RAGIII
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Thanks guys for 1/48 support)
and we are doing 1/32 scale kit, ;)
Well Edgar, you've opened the floodgates with that comment!! What exciting and encouraging news, and given the superb reviews of your recent 1:48 products I expect nothing short of great success for any 1:32 Kit you produce. This is just great news, I don't want to appear a "dreamer" with speculation about the possible subject of this project, but a Dolphin or a French subject would be welcome here!
Kudos to Copper State, your recent efforts have done much to stimulate the hobby, and this is "frosting on the cake"! :) :) :)
Cheers,
Lance
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Please, Edgar, not another bl**dy Dr.I. We've got them in every possible scale from 1/144 to 1/8!
There were less than 400 of the real damn things and the Roden kit is perfectly good in 1/32 scale. The market must be super-saturated by now.
Please, please upscale your beautiful Dolphin to 1/32 and put me down for a couple. I'll sit them proudly beside my Roden tripes!
S
That would work for me although I think a Dolphin would be risky.It is mainstream enough WNW may do one someday.
RAGIII
That is the reason to do the Dolphin in 1/28 as a companion to the 1/28 N. 28 you "previewed" to us not too long ago; and You already have a marvelous 1/28 Hisso engine !!!
ED
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Nieuport XI or XVII would be most welcome in 1/32 ;)
vB
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Nieuport XI or XVII would be most welcome in 1/32 ;)
vB
I am so terribly sorry for disagreeing in this single point with Bob, but there are the Special Hobby and A-Model kits. And because there are so many fascinating (especially) French subjects out there (Nieuport 12, Caudron G. 4, the Voisin bomber family from the III to the X, Farmans, Morane Saulnier BB, MS P, and and and) I think we wouldn't need another Nieuport 11/16 but something that isn't available as a kit at all.
Borsos
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That would work for me although I think a Dolphin would be risky.It is mainstream enough WNW may do one someday.
RAGIII
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That is the reason to do the Dolphin in 1/28 as a companion to the 1/28 N. 28 you "previewed" to us not too long ago; and You already have a marvelous 1/28 Hisso engine !!!
ED
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Ed, the model is ready, we are still thinking when to do it)) and should we, or not)
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I know it is a risk, but it would make a nice pair ( with your quality) and a follow-up to the old Revell kits and your details for them. Plus no competition .
Ed
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Please, Edgar, not another bl**dy Dr.I. We've got them in every possible scale from 1/144 to 1/8!
There were less than 400 of the real damn things and the Roden kit is perfectly good in 1/32 scale. The market must be super-saturated by now.
Please, please upscale your beautiful Dolphin to 1/32 and put me down for a couple. I'll sit them proudly beside my Roden tripes!
S
and not one of those kits are worth a crap.....Put me down for four good DR 1's I don't want any obscure french planes, and I wouldn't even think about a dolphin......
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Please, please upscale your beautiful Dolphin to 1/32 and put me down for a couple. I'll sit them proudly beside my Roden tripes!
S
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and not one of those kits are worth a crap.....Put me down for four good DR 1's I don't want any obscure french planes, and I wouldn't even think about a dolphin......
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Au contraire, there are a substantial number of aces ( US, AUST, Br, NZ, Can, Irish, SA) that flew the Dolphin and as per the Ospery book, lots of color schemes; and it was an airplane well respected by the Germans.
So for Edgar (as Rick has said it pretty mainstream and TVAL had a hand in restoring the one that is now in the RAF Museum) to do one in 1/32 is risky, but if you do one do it quick before the Big Gorilla does. Be First, be better, be cheaper or be the only one ( thus my reasoning on 1/28 and the existing 1/28 engine) Needless to say which ever scale Edgar chooses I'll line up to go beside my (his) 1/48.
As for the DR 1, WNW will eventually fulfill your desires
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Please, Edgar, not another bl**dy Dr.I. We've got them in every possible scale from 1/144 to 1/8!
There were less than 400 of the real damn things and the Roden kit is perfectly good in 1/32 scale. The market must be super-saturated by now.
Please, please upscale your beautiful Dolphin to 1/32 and put me down for a couple. I'll sit them proudly beside my Roden tripes!
S
and not one of those kits are worth a crap.....Put me down for four good DR 1's I don't want any obscure french planes, and I wouldn't even think about a dolphin......
We're singing from the same prayer sheet, my friend! Bring on a decent DR.1
Ripple Von Triple
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Morning,
Yes its a shame that HLJ/Beaver didn't fix the broken strut prior to it being displayed. Perhaps no one noticed it till it was to late?
The Camel that they had on display was the test shot that was on display at the NZ IPMS Nationals back in April. Back then that wasn't the final test shot, so there hasn't been any painted builds as of date.
I can assure you that the wait will be worth while for the Camel. Just remember how look it took to release the Fokker D.VII!
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Thank god for different tastes! We're all in love with WW1 planes but nevertheless there's so much diversity. It would be boring without that ;)
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Looking forward to the Camel plus any other surprise releases (plural)
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New interior picture on WNW website - for those that care.
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Here it is guys, the third test shot this time of the cockpit, very nice indeed.
Des.
Click picture for larger image
(https://s25.postimg.org/5o5rklqcf/wnw_camel.jpg)
Picture taken from the Wingnut Wings website.
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Well, at least they found their missing strut, and found time to slap some paint on the girl.
Warren
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That is going to be a beauty.
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That is going to be a beauty.
Sure. Like any other WNW kit :)
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As nice as it looks it is not a kit that I am going to purchase, if they release a BE.2 that will be a different story.
Des.
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Yes, it does look good but given the potential cost I'm going to take a rain check and have go at improving another Hobby craft version.
I'll keep my money for a Halberstadt should they bring one out :D.
Tug
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I built the Academy version of the Camel - http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/page32.html - and even though it need some work it turned out to be a really good looking model, I'm sure that your Hobby Craft kit will end up looking superb tug.
Des.
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The Wingnuts Camel looks outstanding but my concern is how much ( or how little) of that detail will be visible when you join the fuselage and put the top wing on. Externally the Camel is a fairly ordinary design, the detail is all inside. Fingers still crossed they do a Camel night fighter with the two Lewis guns over the top wing and the re-designed fuselage.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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The Wingnuts Camel looks outstanding but my concern is how much ( or how little) of that detail will be visible when you join the fuselage and put the top wing on. Externally the Camel is a fairly ordinary design, the detail is all inside. Fingers still crossed they do a Camel night fighter with the two Lewis guns over the top wing and the re-designed fuselage.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
That's a good bet considering their track record with the Alb and D VII.
And yes it is a bit difficult to see into the Camel cockpit.
Ed
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I'd like one...
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No negativity from me, will definitely get this.
One of them at least - there have got to be several boxings, surely?
But maybe, as with the D.VII, they won't all be available at once.; I (naively) hope they'll give us some idea about future variations when the first Camel is released.
Another reason not to jump in straightaway is that I very much hope Pheon have some fab alternative decals lined up(?).
Mark
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I'm in for one. Be rude not too!
von B
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No negativity from me, will definitely get this.
One of them at least - there have got to be several boxings, surely?
But maybe, as with the D.VII, they won't all be available at once.; I (naively) hope they'll give us some idea about future variations when the first Camel is released.
Another reason not to jump in straightaway is that I very much hope Pheon have some fab alternative decals lined up(?).
Mark
I am with you on the decals! I will buy a couple of Camels. One for 43 squadron and one for the 185th USAS. Just need decals for the specific unit and personal markings and serial numbers.
RAGIII
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No negativity from me, will definitely get this.
One of them at least - there have got to be several boxings, surely?
But maybe, as with the D.VII, they won't all be available at once.; I (naively) hope they'll give us some idea about future variations when the first Camel is released.
Another reason not to jump in straightaway is that I very much hope Pheon have some fab alternative decals lined up(?).
Mark
I am with you on the decals! I will buy a couple of Camels. One for 43 squadron and one for the 185th USAS. Just need decals for the specific unit and personal markings and serial numbers.
RAGIII
Yess, USAS versions too, please!
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Now posted on the Wingnuts website regarding the Camel release - Still expected in late 2016, very late 2016.
Des.
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Hopefully with enough time for Santa to deliver ;)
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Now posted on the Wingnuts website regarding the Camel release - Still expected in late 2016, very late 2016.
Des.
So lets say mid-summer 2017 then? ;)
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Hmmn. Trying hard to get excited about the Camel here - I likely will buy one to support the cause and I do hope they sell a million of them to fund other release though.
Still hoping for maybe a surprise release for the holidays or at least some small news from them about their future releases - any news at all would be so appreciated - the news for the last year seems only about price increases and shipping costs which is not terribly encouraging....
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It will come out for Christmas but too late get get delivered under the Tree.
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Hmmm , I‘m slowly but continously getting tired of looking every few days on their website if there is something new.
This is what I did since the last new release in November 2015 with the Albatros BII that I ordered the same day.
I have really tried to get excited by the Camel , but having the Snipe early in stash ( beside 20 other WNW kits ) it seems to me nothing I really need. Maybe I buy one just because it's WNW to support them.
But I guess it would be very disappointing to me if there is nothing more interesting to come from them in the whole year 2016.
So maybe it's time after having build only WNW kits the last 2 years ( 12 of them in that time , including the great Felixstowe kit ) to look for something different. Maybe WW2 again , Tamiya have some nice kits in 1/32 and they are playing in the same quality and price range as WNW.
Peter
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Switch to Roden for some good interim-builds? I do.
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Switch to Roden for some good interim-builds? I do.
Me too! Their Kits are pretty good, IMO certainly the best overall after the "untouchable" Wingnut Wings offerings. I enjoy them, as well as some of the others (Hobby Craft for example) for the opportunity to add some scratch built features, and get back to a little basic modelling. Not the least of reasons to venture away from Wingnuts on occasion is the unique subjects offered elsewhere, like the Siemens Schuckert or Nieuport 28. The WWI 1:32 field offers a pretty impressive inventory of subjects presently, years of building, and anything new is pure gravy! :)
Cheers,
Lance
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Switch to Roden for some good interim-builds? I do.
Me too! Their Kits are pretty good, IMO certainly the best overall after the "untouchable" Wingnut Wings offerings. I enjoy them, as well as some of the others (Hobby Craft for example) for the opportunity to add some scratch built features, and get back to a little basic modelling. Not the least of reasons to venture away from Wingnuts on occasion is the unique subjects offered elsewhere, like the Siemens Schuckert or Nieuport 28. The WWI 1:32 field offers a pretty impressive inventory of subjects presently, years of building, and anything new is pure gravy! :)
Cheers,
Lance
I agree fully with what has been said here, I have built all of the Roden 1:32 scale WW1 aircraft kits and found them to be pretty good, some were a challenge but isn't that what modeling is all about. Academy, Hobbycraft, Special Hobby, Avis, Battle Axe and more all offer WW1 kits. For a cheaper alternative and a kit that needs a bit of TLC all these other kits are a great stop-gap for those who are hanging out waiting for a new Wingnuts release.
Des.
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Des, you're right. I'm looking forward to the Camel because it's a significant aircraft in the history of WWI. But I have dredged up my Roden Nieuport 27 simply to have a little fun figuring out the eccentricities of the kit. I also needed an incentive to get my "mojo" back. I appreciate the work which WNW puts into their product but if I wait around I won't get anything done. What makes Roden kits a bit more challenging are the instructions, which can be sometimes hard to figure out. Well, the Nieuport has been fun so far!
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The Camel's history now online on WnW's Website:
http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3150
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Some really interesting archive photos there! I especially like the camel salvage yard!
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Was at their site earlier and wondered if there are going to be more than one boxing (hopefully and based on the history provided by WNW on the Camel, this would lead you to believe this true). :)
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C'mon 2.F1!!
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Now WNW say the kit will be available in late 2016,very late 2016
http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3150 (http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3150)
Manni
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This is a bit like the RFC pilots on the Western Front waiting for the arrival of the fabled Bristol Monoplane. Much rumoured, much anticipated, the few "test shots" tried by those "in the know" promised sky-high results, but of course it never did materialise where it was most needed!
S
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The archive photos are very interesting.
Funnily enough, I recognise the 3rd one in - the checkerboard. It's from No. 222 squadron RAF, ex No.1 Fighter Squadron, RNAS, at Mudros airfield in the Aegean. Taken just post war.
Some of you may remember I have a DFC medal group to Capt. J.A. Yonge - He served in 220 & 222 squadron in the Aegean and this photo was with the ephemera.
Would be a nice scheme!
Guy
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New pictures of completed model at WNW site. "Still expected in late 2016, very late 2016."
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Being not the biggest fan of the Camel I must say that I really like this scheme... :)
... and don't forget: the advertisement and the slow release process is just to detract us from the other surprise releases before X-mas - the Be 2c, the Morane Saulnier BB, the Halberstadt Cl. II and ... and ... and ... ::)
Borsos
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Being not the biggest fan of the Camel I must say that I really like this scheme... :)
... and don't forget: the advertisement and the slow release process is just to detract us from the other surprise releases before X-mas - the Be 2c, the Morane Saulnier BB, the Halberstadt Cl. II and ... and ... and ... ::)
Borsos
Hooray! Yessss, please!!!
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Yep, I'm hoping for a Duellist boxing with something more interesting in it :)
First let me say that the built up scheme is certainly colorful and should spark some interest in those that want more than PC 10. Even the MGs are painted blue 8)
Next I agree completely with the "Wish" for a duelist kit with something else more interesting. But what? Remember that almost all, if not all, of the OOP German kits would line up as a possible duelist with the Camel. So a new release like a DR1 would be great but so would an Albatros DV, Fokker DVII, etc. JMHO,
RAGIII