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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Manni on May 17, 2016, 09:09:59 PM
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Hello world,
after showing you my ready done work, I will now start with a build report.
First I have to say, that I do not want to be 100% correct in history regards (hope that are the right words)
I mean it could be, that I show two planes in a single scene, that could never have met in reality, because the first was a British trainer and the other was a German fighter at the Westfront for example (I just look that the timespan is correct, so you don’t need to worry about Dinosaurs in my Dios)
But now, back to topic. I want to do a scene with an Eindecker and a Fe 2b in a dogfight (flying)
The groundwork will be a little bit like a canyon with some wild water, snow and ice knobbed Oaks (the reason why I choose winter is I don’t want to glue any leaves on a tree for the next time) and a tree trunk were some staghounds on the one side and some boars threaten each other. My intension in this is to show an allegory between the animals and the humans because you don’t know how will be the winner.
It will be called “Jäger und Gejagte?” that means “Hunter and Prey?”
It will be in the size of 70 by 110 cm ( 27.5 by 43.3 inch)
The upper 2/3rd will be framed in an old baroqe frame, which will fade into the winter landscape.
The background (sky) will be done in an oil paint-style (maybe dawn).
Now, enough words here is a first Photoshop sketch (without canyon and only one wolf and one boar, so this will be changed)
(http://abload.de/img/i6rs1w.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=i6rs1w.jpg)
Here the well known Fokker kit and it's content
(http://abload.de/img/1phs59.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=1phs59.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/2yksx9.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=2yksx9.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/3hksxy.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=3hksxy.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/4qdsy8.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=4qdsy8.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/546syn.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=546syn.jpg)
My preferred colour scheme
(http://abload.de/img/60ostj.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=60ostj.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/99jsb6.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=99jsb6.jpg)
the Pe-fret
(http://abload.de/img/10m1sep.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=10m1sep.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/12i2s3l.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=12i2s3l.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/13ggs5o.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=13ggs5o.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/14aisqa.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=14aisqa.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/1570sb1.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=1570sb1.jpg)
First colour (alclad aluminum)
(http://abload.de/img/16zysz2.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=16zysz2.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/17rss2j.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=17rss2j.jpg)
Here an easy method to make Wood:
Take an Artist ink pen (Farber) and paint some Wood grain on the surface.
Wait 2 or 3 minutes to let it dry and then rub with arubber or your finger over it to smear the ink a bit.
After that you kann go on with Tamiya clear yellow/orange.
In this case I didn't do it too accurate, because you won't see it anymore because the Pilot will be covering it.
(http://abload.de/img/18vls8e.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=18vls8e.jpg)
Here the Pilot from Wingcockpit figures (thanks to David Allan)
with the modified Pe-belt.
(http://abload.de/img/196oshk.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=196oshk.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/20jrs38.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20jrs38.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/2125shx.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=2125shx.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/23cxs33.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=23cxs33.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/24txsbe.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=24txsbe.jpg)
(http://abload.de/img/25jiswl.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=25jiswl.jpg)
See you,
Manni
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Good start, Manfred. That is going to be a big diorama, considering the
size of the Fe2! Nice start on the Eindecker, and I am pleased to see your choice
of markings. Interesting idea about the woodgrain. The figure looks great all
painted up. A big job, but you have shown with your others, that you are up to
the challenge. I look forward to following this one, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Neat idea, but...
.... how are you going to show the Umlaufmotor running? The propeller itself is a tough task, but the turning engine? And are you going to put some "glass" into the pilot's glasses/flying goggles?
Stefan
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I am definitely looking forward to this, Manni!
Chris
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Excellent start, Manfred! This will be fun to follow.
Cheers,
Bud
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Lovely start, this promises to be interesting!
You might want to make something up to cover the pilot's face, I can promise you he would not be flying with a bare face in winter!
Ian
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I am really looking forward to seeing how you bring one of your Masterful Dioramas to life! The pilot is beautiful. Terrific start!
RAGIII
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Interesting topic. Perhaps you should change the title from D.III into E.III :)
regards,
Ivo
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This will be a very interesting project that I will be following closely, looking forward to more updates.
Des.
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Hello.
Neat idea, but...
.... how are you going to show the Umlaufmotor running? The propeller itself is a tough task, but the turning engine? And are you going to put some "glass" into the pilot's glasses/flying goggles?
Stefan
Hello Stefan,
I will take some cutted parts of a propblur PE part and will glue them on the cylinder and the pusher rods.
The prop will be done with a PE part from Alliance Model Works. I did this before with the Gotha.
Lovely start, this promises to be interesting!
You might want to make something up to cover the pilot's face, I can promise you he would not be flying with a bare face in winter!
Ian
Hi, Ian,
good Point, I will do that. I will also put glasses into the goggles.
Dear gents,
thank you for your warm replies.
This is the reason, why I did not throw the EIII into the bin.
A couple of days ago, I glued a socket into the completed fuselage. And let it cure over night.
Next day the fuselage was bend in a 45° angle.(Yes, Sir! Glue can get hot, Sir! .Very hot,Sir, yes Sir! I'm an idiot, Sir >:() But after several evenings of cutting, sanding, gueing and fillingI am nearly satisfied again.
Only the underside is still not nice, but I will ignore that due to the reason the plane will be fixed in a way that makes it impossible to look under the fuselage.
So here some pics
(https://abload.de/img/266pk45.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=266pk45.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/27x5kvs.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=27x5kvs.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/28c6kot.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=28c6kot.jpg)
Next to come up will be the preshading.
Cheers,
Manni
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It looks like you've made a much better recovery than I could have!
Well done,
Chris
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Well!
I'm glad all turned out for the good!!! I'll follow yor build closely: I'm sure i culd steal sube good ideas from you! ;)
ciao
edo
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Great recovery. I am looking forward to your progress on this project!
RAGIII
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Manni, you did a great job with the recovery of the fuselage. I love your diorama idea as well, mixing up baroque aspects of "telling a story or whisdom by using symbols" and modern diorama building; really a very good idea!
Remember the Fe 2b wasn't just "Fokker fodder" but could actually stand and fight against the German eindecker. The Fe 2b was one of those planes that ended the Fokker scourge. (Just a comment, nor a critique, of course there were enough successful Eindecker pilots over Fe 2bs...)
Best wishes
Borsos
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Thank you guys.
@Borsos: Thank for your reply. But as I wrote in my Project introducion there will be a questionmark behind " Hunter and Prey?" to Show that everything is open, like the fight between the boars and the Dogs.
But now,
I made some Progress.
I tried a new technique to preshade the Linnen covered Areas.
At first, I masked the Frame and strits following some plans I found. On the underside of the wings I used acrylic Artist pens (dark sepia) to preshade the ribs of the wings.
(https://abload.de/img/29e6jpc.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=29e6jpc.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/30d7jms.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=30d7jms.jpg)
Second step was to overspray everything with a layer of hairspray. After that I sprayed very uneven some highliy dilluted dark Brown over the wings and the fuselage.
(https://abload.de/img/31ukjgg.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=31ukjgg.jpg)
Third step was to take a moisted brush to remove the Brown between the ribs.
(https://abload.de/img/327pk5r.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=327pk5r.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/327pk5r.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=327pk5r.jpg)
In the end I sprayed Tamiyas XF60 with 50% Thinner over the whole mess.
...and I am very happy with the result....
(https://abload.de/img/34x6j5h.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=34x6j5h.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/35ikjbz.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=35ikjbz.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/361ok31.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=361ok31.jpg)
Next Phase was to get the Aluminium parts of the cowling done.
So I started with a AlcladII Aluminium base, that I polished with some AK true metal wax (great stuff)
(https://abload.de/img/37zyjw4.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=37zyjw4.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/3833kjz.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=3833kjz.jpg)
After that I took a 00 brush and Tamiya XF16 to paint the brush-finish of the aluminum parts.
(https://abload.de/img/39mfkfm.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=39mfkfm.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/404dkw8.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=404dkw8.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/41bfkfh.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=41bfkfh.jpg)
I hope you like it. More will come soon...
Cheers,
Manni
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Hi Manni!
great result indeed, very convincing.
May I ask you a question? Which is the difference between masking with Tamya tape and artistic pen? The risult should be the same: a lighter shade where the ribs are. Is it 'just' a more user friendly technique, or there is something more that I am missing?
thank you very much, and keep up the great job!
ciao
edo
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Outstanding pre shading and excellent results!
RAGIII
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Excellent results with your shading Manni, the technique you used is very effective.
Des.
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Agreeed. Your results look very convincing. Well done!
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Great work on the pre-shading, Manni! The cowling looks amazing as
well. Terrific update, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thank you Guys for your interest and your nice words,
@ Edo:
The pen I used only for the underside of the wing, were the ribs throw their shadow on.
Yesterday I have sprayed thee stripes and the White area for the Balkenkreuz on the fuselage.
(https://abload.de/img/42ryxa5.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=42ryxa5.jpg)
And added some stripes of a rotating prop from propblur on the Rotary engine to let it loo a bit like it is running.
(https://abload.de/img/437nzgs.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=437nzgs.jpg)
Bye,
Manni
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Got it! Thank you Manni!
By the way: your quirls looks terrific!!
ciao
Edo
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And added some stripes of a rotating prop from propblur on the Rotary engine to let it loo a bit like it is running.
(https://abload.de/img/437nzgs.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=437nzgs.jpg)
Bye,
Manni
Very good idea! Looks really convincing. I also like your preshading very much!
Best wishes
Borsos
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Manni - that's some pretty awesome attention to detail! Love that rotary effect ;)
Your weathering technique is noted with deep interest too - I shall unashamedly use that in the future - it looks very effective.
Keep it coming
Regards - Tug
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Continuing to look outstanding!
RAGIII
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I like your technique at creating the rotating effect on the engine, quite convincing.
Des.
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Hello,
last weeks were a bit exhausting at my regular work (they have fired 1000 Employees of 5000) but I have managed to survive.
Here is a small update of my work. I still have to rig that plane and add the MG and the undercarriage.
Weathering was done with some Oils and a Brown washing.
The Eiserne Kreuze have been cut out and are applied on airbrushed squares.
A bad idea was to equip the Pilot with a selfmade scarf (it Looks terrible now) I will replace the head. Now ist looking a bit abnormal, becaue I decided to paint the mask/scarf in green with hight green horizontal strpes, so the guy is now looking like having a smiling watermelon instead of a face.
(https://abload.de/img/44udz9f.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=44udz9f.jpg)
Bye,
Manni
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Don't worry, it's not that bad! Sounds like a bad week you had, best wishes for the future at your work!
If you still like to replace the head I'd recommend a Copper State Models Head. Their Gotha crew for example is brilliantly cast, they wear the protection helmets (which were even higher recommended flying Eindeckers...) and already have scarfs slung around nose and mouth. Tell me, if I should send you photos!
Borsos
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What's wrong with a watermelon scarf? Looks good to me Manni, and at the very least it would be a very good conversation piece. :)
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Whatever you decide to do with your pilot, the Fokker looks terrific, Manni. Well done,
Chris
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OH LA LA!
Beautiful!
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An extremely nice looking E.III Manni, you have done an excellent job, looking forward to seeing the rigging fitted.
Des.
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An extremely nice looking E.III Manni, you have done an excellent job, looking forward to seeing the rigging fitted.
Des.
I agree with Des, Manni. I think the rigging is what makes the Eindeckers special. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Somehow I posted a response to this thread intended for another. Now that one is deleted. Your EIII is coming along beautifully as is the pilot.
RAGIII
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That's a great looking finish you've achieved Manni, the accents and shading are beautifully done and the "swirled" polish effect on the cowlings is excellent. Outstanding work so far and I'll be following your further progress with great interest.
Cheers,
Lance
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Thank you for all theese kind words. This is really pushing me.
I have done some work.
I added all turnbuckles, the undercarriage the MG and rigged the undderside of the Fokker.
The pilot got a new scarf made of magic sculp but still has to be painted new.
A first weathering with oils and AK oil, and grime has been done.
The deflection blade will get some treatement with oil and grime, too and later there will be some more weatering at the tyres with pastels.
The axle of the weels will be drilled out and the weel will be secured with a safety pin.
(https://abload.de/img/45d1jhr.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=45d1jhr.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/46wjk71.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=46wjk71.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/475rkcc.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=475rkcc.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/48kxkkm.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=48kxkkm.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/4961kpb.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=4961kpb.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/50wnjzm.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=50wnjzm.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/51ecjgk.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=51ecjgk.jpg)
I hope You like it
Cheers,
Manni
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Looking at the pilot's scarf you should make rotating propeller. ;)
Adam.
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Adam,
there will be a rotating prop by Alliance Model workhttp://www.am-works.com/products/air/aircraft-detailing-accessories/aw035-dynamic-propeller-1-32-fokker-dr-1/ (http://www.am-works.com/products/air/aircraft-detailing-accessories/aw035-dynamic-propeller-1-32-fokker-dr-1/)
But I won't install it till I completed the plane, because it is extremly fragil.
Manni
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Looking great! I really like the oil soaked left wing!
RAGIII
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Very well done. The pilot looks even better than without the sculpted scarf. Are you going to paint the new scarf red as well to create the impression of one large scarf or are you going to paint it in a different color as a second scarf?
Best regards
Borsos
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Great job of shading and weathering Manni, very convincing and the rigging is very nicely done as well. A very real looking and spectacular Model, excellent work!
Cheers,
Lance
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Marvelous weathering, Manni, and your pilot looks fantastic!
Cheers,
Bud
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Wow,
Now I can see that flying is really dangerous once you have just one machine gun..:)
great thread
regards
K
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Thank you gentlemen of your kind words.
Borsos:
The scarf will be blue I think. First I thought to paint it red like the other one, but then it would be a scarf with three ends.
The shading and weathering will be more increased in some spots (a bit over done) for the reason, that the planes will be attached to a canvas so the beholder won't be able to get so close to the model as if it would when it stands just on a base. I want to attract the viewer's eyes to the planes and the conflict between the dogs and the boars minor to the landscape (sadly this happened in my Gotha dio).
In future I would like to start a model and a diorama that looks complete like an oil paining. But I think I'm still far away of this project with my time and skills.
Cheers,
Manni
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Dear, gentlemen.
I have survived my three weeks of family vacation.
Now I can start again with this project and I have managed to finalize the Fokker (only the rotating prop could be changes against one of Propblur)
(https://abload.de/img/52btyav.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=52btyav.jpg)
Now the pilot without the watermellon face.
(https://abload.de/img/53d1y5e.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=53d1y5e.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/54qvxqu.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=54qvxqu.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/55vpla5.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=55vpla5.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/56p3y5b.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=56p3y5b.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/577nx80.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=577nx80.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/58qky3l.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=58qky3l.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/59ohxyc.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=59ohxyc.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/600pl65.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=600pl65.jpg)
I hope you like it. Next the Fee will come.
Yours, Manni
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Beautifully done Manni! The finish on this model is superb and with the prop and the way you've "streamed" the figure's scarfs it looks like it's moving, I'm really looking forward to seeing what you do with the Fee, keep up the terrific work!
Cheers,
Lance
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Very nice Fokker, Manni! Well done! These rotating props are really cool...
Borsos
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Thank you all for the nice words Icarroll and Borsos.
I will soon post some new pics of the progress of the fee. This time I will do the whole Wood with decals (I am working on it now) but I think it will be the last time I will do that. Oilsor an very easy acrylic-technique of a fellow modeller is more satisfying and a bit less "cheating".
Manni
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Manni, Your Eindecker looks great! Love the spinning prop representation.
RAGIII
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This is a magnificent eindecker, looking for the whole big diorama with great interest.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Thank you gents for your kind words, that keeps me on modeling.
Now I have started with the Fee.
I decided to take on the following scheme, because it is not so common like the zanzibar scheme:
(https://abload.de/img/1wwb8p.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=1wwb8p.jpg)
Als usual I have started with the cockpit.
As all WNW Kit it is highly detailed and there are a lot of parts in the box, that are nearly all needed for the cockpit and the engine.
I also use here a PE set from HGW, but I can say only the seatbelts are required the rest is detailed enough or could be done with homemade details.
The weathering of the wood was done just with burned umbra oils. But i still have to do a lot of work on the weathering, the decals and some custom details.
(https://abload.de/img/2dzaqk.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=2dzaqk.jpg)
More to come soon...
Manni
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You have made a fantastic start on the Fee Mannie, what you have done so far looks excellent.
Des.
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Yes Manni, you are doing a great job.
To my eye the weathering of the floor is particularly well done!
ciao
Edo
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Lovely work on the interior, Manni! Your wood and metal work are truly remarkable!
Cheers,
Bud
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Very cool! Thanks for sharing your techniques.
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Great cockpit!
Giuseppe
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The cockpit floor is drop dead gorgeous! The whole assembly is outstanding!
RAGIII
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Awesome start on the Fe2, Manni! The Sheme is my favoured too (I prefer the modified landing gears) and your woodwork is extraordinary fine. Can you tell us more about that? Did you use wood decals or just oils?
Best wishes from the Northern Sea
Borsos
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Thank You all for theese kind words and your interest.
Borsos asked me to point out some details of my woodwork.
Here I have used the HGW decals on Alclad white primer, but I must say in future projects I will go on with my own technique of simulating wood.
I apply a base of decktan and take some burned sienna or umbra on a cardboard to get rid of the most oil. After that I take a brush and paint it in one direction on the surface, after that I take a toothpick and scratch a grain texture like pattern into the fresh oilpaint (You don't need to do the toothpick step when you would like to create very fine/knotless plywood).
Then I let it dry for 5 minutes. After that I take a nearly dry brush (white spirit) and brush it in one direction over the surface. I repeat this step (but always with cleaned brushes) until I like the grain.
After one day of drying I spray over it with some clear yellow or orange thinned down with some satin varnish as I like to generate different tones.
The now following step I have done also on the decals. I put some burned umbra on a cardboard and apply it on the ready decaled part with a Q-tip on the outer sections of a part and the edges were 2 parts join. Then I take complete dry brushes to rub the paint into the parts center (just 3-5 strokes and then a new clean, dry brush)
When I am happy with the result I make the apperance a bit more even with a Q-tip, that I rub over the nearly dry paint.
If there is too much paint on it, or you want to get rid of some colour at some edges I put some bul-tak or Uhu-Pattafix on a toothpick and rub overtheese points. This works like a rubber and takes the oilpaint away.
Hope that is a help for you.
Manni
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Hello ladies and gentlemen,
Such a beautiful paint !! BRAVO !!
Best regards.
Alain.
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Thank you for sharing your techniques! So these decals are the prefabricated ones especially for the Fe2b? Are they pre-cut?
Thank you!
Borsos
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Hello Borsos, you're welcome! ;D
The decals were espially for the Fee, but I just used them, because they were in the HGW Superset for the Fee that I have ordered long ago.
They are not pre-cut and have an overlap of 2mm. Very annoying was the decal for the cockpit I had to cut out every hole for the instruments.
If you want to go with decals you would be well advised to take Uschis or the standard HGW decals (the HGW decals are a bit brittle but have a better print resulution compared to the Uschi decals) instead of the Fee decals.
Grüße,
Manni
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Thanks again!
I like the HGW wood grain, but my method to "copy" panel after panel using masking tape and a sharp pencil does not work with them. However you reduce the sticking of the tape, it sticks too well on these HGW decals and lifts the decal from the backing paper. Therefore I prefer UvdR wood decals anyway. I would have tried these special HGW decals if they were precut and would perfectly fit - but now...
Best wishes
Borsos
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Thank you to all of you for your kind words.
slowly I make some progress on this pusher.
I hope you like it and I hope to make now faster progress on this build.
(https://abload.de/img/3cosa0.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=3cosa0.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/439sdg.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=439sdg.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/5kws9p.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=5kws9p.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/6zasjl.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=6zasjl.jpg)
Cheers,Manni
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Your interior looks awesome! I am certainly enjoying watching you bring these aircraft together!
RAGIII
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Gorgeous interior, Manni! You've convinced me to get the HGW set for mine. That seat looks so much more to scale than the kit seat.
Cheers,
Bud
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Wonderful nacelle, Manni, really nice! Can you tell me how much of the main fuel tank under the engine is visible once the engine is installed? I intend to convert mine into a Fe2d with a WNW Rolls Royce and that one seems to have had a rectagular main fuel tank instead of the round one. So it would be cool to know if the difference would be too visible...
Thank you!
Borsos
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Thank you for your encouraging words! This build is very extensive and it pushs me to my modeling limits.
I have started now with the engine with it's PE parts and wireing.
@ coyotemagic: please take a look to the set first. i think most things are not necessary because the kit parts are very good (maybe better).
-The interieur set is in my opinion completely needless, exept the great seat.
-The decal set is not precut, so you can better do it in the old but good oil-technique or cut out your own decals.
-The seatbelts are simply stunning and I can highly reccomend them.
-The engine fret looks better, but all theese things around the engine could be done by yourself (with skills like yours).
- If you decide to build the Fee with bombs, I can reccomend that set.
-The exterieur set seems to be ...let me say needless too, because the parts that you sand off are great right from the kit.
@Borsos
The fueltank is nearly 99% covered with the engine. I tried to see it and was not able to do so. Maybe with a torch and some artistic movements.
Cheers, Manni
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Manni, thank you very much for these very valuable hints! "valuable" in its true sense and economocally understood as I''ll spend my money probabely on the single seat belts set, but not on the whole detail set.
Good to know about the fuel tank! Then I'll drive back my research in this very point...
Borsos
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Thank you for your encouraging words! This build is very extensive and it pushs me to my modeling limits.
I have started now with the engine with it's PE parts and wireing.
@ coyotemagic: please take a look to the set first. i think most things are not necessary because the kit parts are very good (maybe better).
-The interieur set is in my opinion completely needless, exept the great seat.
-The decal set is not precut, so you can better do it in the old but good oil-technique or cut out your own decals.
-The seatbelts are simply stunning and I can highly reccomend them.
-The engine fret looks better, but all theese things around the engine could be done by yourself (with skills like yours).
- If you decide to build the Fee with bombs, I can reccomend that set.
-The exterieur set seems to be ...let me say needless too, because the parts that you sand off are great right from the kit.
Thanks for the insight, Manni! You've just saved me a ton of money. I'll just buy the seat belts and sand down the seat.
Cheers,
Bud
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@ Andreas and Bud,
it was a pleasure for me to save your money. Finally I throw about 50€ out the window for things I don't need. So if you save the money, you can spend it on an other kit, build it and show it on the forum so it's a win-win situation.
Manni
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So, gentelmen, I have finished the engine.
Thank you for all the kind comments. THANK YOU!!!
The engine is made of about 40 plastic and 50 PE parts. The fit was excellent but alot of masking was required to paint it properly.
The complete engine was brushed with Alclad and weathered with a brown wash to tone down the blingbling of the metall. After that some engine grime and fresh oil was applied.
(https://abload.de/img/7ebutm.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=7ebutm.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/8yzull.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=8yzull.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/91suw3.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=91suw3.jpg)
Manni
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Well MAnni,
you did acheive a great result with the engine!
I always find it a pity to seal the engine inside the fusolage... and in your case it is all the more so!
ciao
edo
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Breathtaking engine, Manni, very nice!
Borsos
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Superb job of the interior of the Fee, Manni, and the engine
is a work of art. The oil staining is terrific. Excellent progress,
my friend. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Lovely job on the engine, Manni, it's a tough one with all the copper components needing to be toned down, and you've done it beautifully! Also it is very visible once installed, I think you'll be very pleased with the results.
Cheers,
Lance
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Manni,
Your engine is an absolute stunner! Outstanding results!!
RAGIII
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Outstanding work on the engine!
Steve
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Wow, your comments are breath taking. Thank you so much. to each one of you!!!! I know we all build models for our selfs, but such comments are the "cherry on top"
Yesterday I started with the wings, I think now it will get a bit easier and faster.
Manni
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Great overall work and the engine is superb. Can I ask you what did you used for thr sark plugs cables?
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Manni, I'm going to shamelessly use your engine as a reference for when I build mine. It's so realistic, it's better than looking at the real thing.
Cheers,
Bud
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Your interior is divine, Manni, but that engine leaves me speechless! Some beautiful work, well thought out tones and amazing realistic weathering... Love it! Marc
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Great overall work and the engine is superb. Can I ask you what did you used for thr sark plugs cables?
Ciao
Giuseppe
Non c'è di che! Giuseppe! I have used the HGW detailset. But the cables can easy be done with thin copper or lead wire (plusmodel). But I can reccoment the detailset in regards of the complexivity of the grease pipe routing I think this can only be done by a brain surgeon or Bertl ;)
Manni, I'm going to shamelessly use your engine as a reference for when I build mine. It's so realistic, it's better than looking at the real thing.
Cheers,
Bud
Feel free my friend. It's agreat honor for me.
Here I want to point out again, that everything, that I post here or elswere can be copied or reused, also if someone likes to know one of my humble techniques, can ask me and I will help.
Your interior is divine, Manni, but that engine leaves me speechless! Some beautiful work, well thought out tones and amazing realistic weathering... Love it! Marc
Thank you Marc, Your comments are always appreciated.
Manni
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Danke Manni, I'm always on trouble with thin metals, both wire and etchings and their tendency to bend in my hands. I'm trying to replicate cables with EZ line, stiffened with white glue and acrilic colour.
As soon I have an advance inbuilding my Albatros, I will post pictures with these details.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Beautiful paint work Manni :)
Terri
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Hello Guys and Gals,
Thank you for your interest and your very kind words.
Now, I have managed to make some progress.
First I erased all details from the wings' surfaces, because they will be replaced by the HGW photoetch parts (Can't recomment them, because the kits details are simply great and they forgot to add the surface details of the complete tail section)
After that I have primed everything with the Alclad II white primer and masked the uppersides of the wings with 1mm tape.
(https://abload.de/img/11fgsn0.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=11fgsn0.jpg)
On the underside of the wing, I painted the ribs with dark sepia.
(https://abload.de/img/10exsjq.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=10exsjq.jpg)
Afterwards everything was covered with hairspray and after drying, I brushed a layer of Vallejo brown over all.
Then I scraped most of the colour with a stiff brush and warm water off.
(https://abload.de/img/138lsmp.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=138lsmp.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/12r5spq.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=12r5spq.jpg)
Then the wings were painted with high dilluted Tamiya deck tan and they were highlighted with a strong lightened up deck tan between the ribs.
(https://abload.de/img/14h2s5f.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=14h2s5f.jpg)
After that I brushed the cockaded on the upperside of the upper wing and the underside of the lower wing.
(https://abload.de/img/1531spq.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=1531spq.jpg)
here the show through ( ::)hope thats the right word) of the cockade on the underside of the upper wing.
(https://abload.de/img/16o3sgc.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=16o3sgc.jpg)
Now the wings were attached to the fuselage.
The fuselage was undergoing a very extensive washing, pin wash and an oilpaint fading.
(https://abload.de/img/17evsu8.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=17evsu8.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/18tls21.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=18tls21.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/194as0m.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=194as0m.jpg)
Hope, you like it, I am very satisfied with the ersult up to now.
Next step will be the struts and the final rigging and some touch ups.
Regards,
Manni
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Beautiful build, M!
Keep up the great modelling!!!
von B ;)
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Thank you, Bob. 8)
Manni
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Manni,
Absolutely beautiful work on the pre shading, washes, and see through of the roundel. The fuselage looks magnificent all painted and with that gorgeous engine installed!
RAGIII
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Great work on the wing shading and highlighting Manni, just simply beautiful! You are doing an absolutely exceptional job on this Build, it's a real pleasure to follow your progress and see the great results of your talents.
Well done!
Cheers,
Lance
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Absolutely great! This Fe2d is going to be a real jewel!
Borsos
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Thank you,
Rick, Lance and Andreas for your warm comments. :D
Smiling Manni
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wow manni! the look throug is perfect! really beautiful!
my compliments!
ciao
edo
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Thank you Edo for the nice words.
Here it goes slowly forward.
I have added the struts and buckles and fit them to the lower wing.
(https://abload.de/img/20xfo5v.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=20xfo5v.jpg)
The frame was painted with deck tan and burned sienna oils got a coat of clear yellow.
(https://abload.de/img/214rrg8.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=214rrg8.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/223zq2z.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=223zq2z.jpg)
The Lewis MG got some new details , a new nuzzle from brass tube and a Norman vane sight.
(https://abload.de/img/23n1oay.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=23n1oay.jpg)
I hope you like it new pictures of the progress will come soon.
Cheers,
Manni
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Outstanding work, looking forward to your progress.
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Brilliant progress. You show us how to upgrade a kit's MG to an extend,
that makes aftermarket products superfluous. And I really love your overall work on the Fe2b, the PC shade, the warm wooden tones on the struts and the accentuation of all the beautiful details.
Borsos
Edit: Oh well, I see now you used aftermarket parts :)
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Superb work! I am thoroughly enjoying seeing things take shape.
Steve
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Manni,
You continue to impress, Sir! That frame portion is incredibly well done, great wood tone and grain and superb detailing of the metal fittings put it into a class of it's own. This Thread is a pleasure to follow, outstanding work!
Cheers,
Lance
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Nery nice work, Manni. Is that Norman vane sight an after market kit, or is it scratch built? I'm building a Lewis gun for my RE.8 and would love to add that detail.
Thanks,
George
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Thank you all for your kind and warm words, they mean a lot to me. THANK YOU!
George, the Norman vane sights are from an upgrage set from HGW.
You can take them for the early planes, the mid and late guns have had a normal sight, because the vane sight tendet to rotate to the left when the pilot flew a hard right curve and viceversa, so the gunner had to aim behind the enemy plane.
Manni
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Superb work Manni - this one's coming along very well indeed!
Cheers,
Gary
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Manni,
Now that's outstanding my old friend. I love the wood work on the tail of the FE2b! Keep up the Master Level works.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Gorgeous painting on the struts and booms! The MG is looking awesome!
RAGIII
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Loving the weathered linen Manni,
Cracking job,
Guy
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Nice work Manni, and it is a pleasure to see you are brave enough to add some crew into the models too.
This helps to add some context and scale to the finished models although it is difficult to make figures in miniature to look convincing. You have succeeded with your Eindecker.
Is your Lewis gun sourced from Eduard- hence the extra p/e sights?
Looking forward to seeing your completed project.
Best wishes,
Dave
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Thank You all for your kind comments. They keep me going on with that project. The rigging of the Fee brings me to the max of my skill and beyond.
Dave, the Lewis MGs are OOB with HGW details and 0.3mm brass tube as muzzle.
Here the pics:
The MGs were sprayed with AlcladII Black Primer, since this covers very nicely and thin.
The rifles were rubbed with Gunmetal powder.
The handles were painted with Revell leather brown and aged with Burned Sienna oil paint.
(https://abload.de/img/24kiup8.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=24kiup8.jpg)
The top wing has now taken its final spot and all wires were attached. These must now only be connected to the turnbuckles.
(https://abload.de/img/258auum.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=258auum.jpg)
the camera was attached to the starboard side....
(https://abload.de/img/260ousa.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=260ousa.jpg)
....and the Klaxon to the portside. The klaxon still needs some wiring.
(https://abload.de/img/279hu5a.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=279hu5a.jpg)
The wheels got their final look with some decktan, oversprayer with hairspray. After applying PC10 and a light chipping, I applied some pigments and burned sienna oils.
(https://abload.de/img/28vrug7.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=28vrug7.jpg)
The rear is ready rigged and is waiting to join the other half of the plane.
(https://abload.de/img/29gbuxu.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=29gbuxu.jpg)
Hope you like it, but I have still alot to do till it is ready for inspection.
Cheers,
Manni
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Outstanding work Manni. love what you have done so far. Looking forward to your progress.
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Wow, Manni, what a great progress again, very very nice. The Fe 2b is actually one of my most favored planes and you definitely do her justice. I especially love how you did the wheels, they look awesome! The chipping effects are extremely realistic. What are you using? Do you use a special Chipping fluid or classic hairspray?
I can't wait to see your in-flight dio finished!
Andreas
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Outstanding work on the chipping, MGs, and Overall scheme. I am really looking forward to seeing this one rigged! Your in flight dio is going to be a stunner for sure!
RAGIII
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Thank you Rick, Andresa and Juan. Your comments are very appeciated.
Borsos: Above I mentioned, that I took hairspray for the chipping, but that is wrong. I remember now, that I took a small sponge and dipped it in Humbrol liquid masking fluid and speckled it on the tyres. After applying the PC10 I just rubbed it off.
Cheers,
Manni
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I do agree with the others: the wheel is just outstanding, you acheived a very realistic effect!
ciao
edo
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Manni,
Just superb detailing, and the finish and wear on the wheels is indeed outstanding , keep up the terrific work!
Cheers,
Lance
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Very inspirational! :)
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moving along nicely !
Ed
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Geez, Manni...I missed this sucker. Fan-tas-tic!
Dan
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Thank you, Edo, Lance, Jeroen, Ed and Dan for your feedback. This makes me going on with this bird. I sometimes thougth about to stop this project (for a while)and start something new, but now I can see the finish line.
Danke,
Manni
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What a terrific work. The ageing and weathering is absolute convincing.
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Top notch Manni,
Perfection I reckon...
Guy
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Amazing, I'm waiting for finished rigging and I'm keep my fingers crossed.
Adam.
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Just caught up with this - these are mind blowing! A wonderful pair of models in the making - I am really looking forward to seeing them completed.
Stephen.
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Incredible work on your Fe2b Manni - truly outstanding detail and weathering. Great to follow your progress.
Cheers,
Gary
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Also only just caught up with this. Incredible work all round. Love what you achieved with the engine and wings - lots of good things to learn there.
Thanks for sharing,
Alistair
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Great job, Manni, I especially like the delicate details on the tail booms, very impressive!
Cheers
Ondra
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Hello folks
thank you for your warm replies. This means much to me.
The rigging of this Fee is quiet time consuming and push me to the edge of my personal skills and patience.
I didn't like the PE Part for the distributor(?) compared to the Gaspatch turnbuckles, so I decided to build them by myself.
(https://abload.de/img/30meu70.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=30meu70.jpg)
So I took 5 British turnbuckles in 1/48th scale and glued them together and attached a PE part out of my scrapbox.
(https://abload.de/img/31zqu2m.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=31zqu2m.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/32anu91.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=32anu91.jpg)
Here some pics of the status. there is still some rigging missing, some Decals have to be attached and some of the wires still have to be painted with AK's true Metal and polished with Q-Tips.
(https://abload.de/img/33fiu79.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=33fiu79.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/344duwa.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=344duwa.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/356muvv.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=356muvv.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/36b3uw9.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=36b3uw9.jpg)
See you soon,
Manni
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Nice upgrade with the distributor-thingy! Whole thing looks great!
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Simply awesome, Manni! This one will be my next project (in fact, this kit is the main reason for me having switched from 1/48 to 1/32 scale) and I will use your exciting build log as my first reference. I really love your Fe 2b (as I love your Fokker E III) and I can hardly wait to see this diorama project finished!
Herzliche Grüße
Andreas
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hey manny! great work indeed! i don't like pe turnbuckles either, and your choice looks perfect!
ciao
edo
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That's great work on the turnbuckles; I tried to do the same on mine but didn't get the results you did, and reverted back to the Kit PE ones. Yours look much better, well done! 8)
Cheers,
Lance
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You are right, your construction using the turnbuckles are much more detailed (and better looking) than the original part supplied. Your rigging is to be commended also, you must have the patience of a saint. Looking forward to your progress.
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Brilliant work on the rigging, Manni! Truly stunning model you've got going there, my friend!
Cheers,
Bud
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It's been a while since I last stopped by buy I am so pleased I have, your work on the Fee is incredible with great attention to detail, excellent weathering and the rigging has turned out a real treat. I commend you on your exceptional modeling skills which are shinning through on both of these models, well done.
Des.
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Thanks you all above! :)
Your comments keep me going on trying to improve my skills.
The next post will be the last on the Fee.
But then the fun part starts, the diorama. I have nearly all parts together and I am very excited in starting this project.
There will be lots of terrain, snow, fighting animals and so on.
Bye,
Manni
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Brilliant work on the rigging, Manni! Truly stunning model you've got going there, my friend!
Cheers,
Bud
As always I agree 100% with my Amigo!
RAGIII
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Brilliant work on the rigging, Manni! Truly stunning model you've got going there, my friend!
Cheers,
Bud
As always I agree 100% with my Amigo!
RAGIII
And the 3rd Amigo now joins the chorus !!
Ed
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Mind blowing work. I love it!
Steve
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Hey, my friends!
One year has passed up to now.
First I have to thank you for your kind and welcome comments.
I decided to do a change on the diorama, because it will be much too big for transportation and for display at home.
So I ordered two canvas covered frames with printed clouds and sky on it to make it possible to show the planes in their "natural habit"
Here the result:
(https://abload.de/img/62bos6s.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=62bos6s.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/61l0snc.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=61l0snc.jpg)
The Fe2b will follow soon.
Bye,
Manni
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That looks great Manni. Where did you get the cloud prints?
Bill
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That is really nice, I don't think I have seen that done before
Richard
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Thank you, Bill and Richard,
thank you for your kind comments. :D
@Bill: The cloud print is done by an online print shop. I just searched via Google pictures a picture of clouds in very high resolution and let it print. Costs are around 20€.
Bye,
Manni
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hei Manni!
I like the effect very much! how did you hang the Fokker to the clouds? did you inserted a rod in the tail?
indeed seing a plane in the sky almost transforms it
ciao
edo
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Very clever idea and a great presentation for your beautiful model!
RAGIII
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Very clever idea and a great presentation for your beautiful model!
RAGIII
I agree totally.
Des.
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Wild aeroplanes in their natural environment: brilliant!
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Very nice indeed. Can you give us some information how to install the plane on the printed screen? Did you set up the canvas screen straight?
Best wishes
Andreas
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Very cool way to display your airplane/mini masterpiece.
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hei Manni!
I like the effect very much! how did you hang the Fokker to the clouds? did you inserted a rod in the tail?
indeed seing a plane in the sky almost transforms it
ciao
edo
+1 -I'm very curious as well!
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How do I keep missing this? That is a truly novel idea to mount the aircraft against a cloud background. Imagination used at its best! This will be a wonderful pair of models and set up in a unique way too.
Stephen.
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Hi guys,
Thank you for the kind words!
I will make some more photos to show you how to let it fly.
Bye,
Manni
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Excellent idea Manni, it really looks great!
Please show us how you attached it to the cloud :)
best regards,
Sasho
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Hello my friends,
now I will try to show you how I attached the planes to the clouds.
It is quiet simple.
First take a rod of brass 3mm outer diameter, that fits exact into a brass tube with 3mm inner diameter (cut the brass tube so long that it fits in the fuselage and extends 5 to 10 mm out of the fuselage). Then take a 0.7mm drill and drill a hole through both brass parts. The hole is needed to secure the plane later with the cloud picture by a thin wire.
Now take the assembled fuselage and glue the brass tube into the desired angle into the fuselage. I take 2 component glue for this purpose. But be careful most 2 component glues get hot! I nearly ruined the fuselage of the Fokker.
(https://abload.de/img/82hks9x.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=82hks9x.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/81obsgq.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=81obsgq.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/69xqsct.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=69xqsct.jpg)
Here are some more photos of the Fokker:
(https://abload.de/img/63jvs5g.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=63jvs5g.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/64b8ss1.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=64b8ss1.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/66qfs9x.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=66qfs9x.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/67g0s5x.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=67g0s5x.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/68wdsy5.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=68wdsy5.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/71p3svy.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=71p3svy.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/738cs1b.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=738cs1b.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/759osfc.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=759osfc.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/76x1s6a.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=76x1s6a.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/78c7szj.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=78c7szj.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/85qzsk5.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=85qzsk5.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/86dxsim.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=86dxsim.jpg)
and finaly the Fee:
(https://abload.de/img/50cjs15.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=50cjs15.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/49wws1h.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=49wws1h.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/47jdsl1.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=47jdsl1.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/45iasim.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=45iasim.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/442vsxn.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=442vsxn.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/37kts7r.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=37kts7r.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/397jsiv.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=397jsiv.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/401ks05.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=401ks05.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/43btscl.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=43btscl.jpg)
That's it my friends. Time again for my abandoned W29.
Bye,
Manni
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Wow Manni that is a wonderful way to display your models. Thank you for showing your technique.
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Manni, that is absolutely incredible! You are a master modeler and a truly innovative artist!
Cheers,
Bud
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Genius Manni!
Guy
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Manni, that is absolutely incredible! You are a master modeler and a truly innovative artist!
Cheers,
Bud
Bud has said it all!
Ed
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Genius Manni!
Guy
... and Guy has been able to expand my above comment !!!!!
Ed
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Manni, that is absolutely incredible! You are a master modeler and a truly innovative artist!
Cheers,
Bud
Bud has said it all!
Ed
Total Agreement from the third Amigo!
RAGIII
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Holy smokes! That is cool!
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Manni,
On your Eindecker, did you just cut down the circular Alliance Modelworks prop blur PE, or did you use a different manufacturer's PE for the prop blur effect?
Bill
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Thank you for your nice comments, my friends.
Bill, theese prop blur are from propblur.com.
See here: http://www.propblur.com/store/c1/Featured_Products.html (http://www.propblur.com/store/c1/Featured_Products.html)
Bye,
Manni
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What a great idea, mounting these models on a panel.
One of the things holding me back from 1/32 has been space concerns, but this opens up a whole realm of possibilities.
Thanks for sharing. This thread has been much fun to read.