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Title: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on August 08, 2012, 08:15:23 AM
This will be my second scratch build, this time the Jeannin Taube in 1:32 scale. I have started by building the entire fuselage frame, I used 0.9mm Evergreen round stock to simulate the tubing used in the real aircraft. To attach the rigging I needed to make small gussets which were fitted to the frame, a 0.3mm hole provides the attachment point for the rigging. I rigged the frame using 0.12mm Maxima Chameleon mono, once it was fitted I painted it with Mr Metal Color Stainless then buffed it lightly.
I have used a green backing for these three photos to allow the white to stand out against the background.

Des.

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2025.jpg)

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2026.jpg)

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2027.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on August 08, 2012, 08:20:19 AM
These photos show the fuselage frame rigging just about done, still need to do a little bit around the engine bay. The evergreen round stock is pretty good but is fairly weak, the rigging certainly strengthens the entire frame and makes it a solid unit. All the frame pieces were glued with plastic glue while the rigging is secured with CA.
The close-up photo shows the little gussets which needed to be fitted to support the rigging wires, very tedious and time consuming work making and fitting them.

Des.

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2028.jpg)

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2030.jpg)

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2036.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 08, 2012, 08:20:35 AM
You’re doing your usual spectacular work on this model Des, just as I would expect. I honestly don’t know how you execute such intricate detail but it’s always a treat to see it. Having just visited your web site, I know your aim is to make it as authentic as possible, but I didn’t think it would extend to the hidden framework. Is there a structural reason why you’re doing it, or is it strictly for authenticity? Whatever the case, it’ll be a pity to see it covered up.

Keep up the good work!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on August 08, 2012, 09:09:18 AM
Thanks Chris for your comments.

There is no particular reason for me doing the entire fuselage frame and rigging, I just like doing it. I realise that most of it will be hidden from view once the fuselage covering is fitted but it doesn't matter, I had fun doing it.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: IanB on August 08, 2012, 09:32:01 AM
Absolutely gorgeous as usual Des.
I'm a little curious as to why you rigged it before painting it, although I know there will be a very good reason....

Ian
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on August 08, 2012, 10:07:31 AM
Yay!  Really glad you finally started on your dream machine!  As usual, you're of to an extraordinary start.  I can't wait to see your wings.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on August 08, 2012, 10:43:44 AM
Thanks Ian for your comments - the frame on the restored original aircraft is white, and the evergreen round rod is already white, so no painting needed, also, to allow the fuselage covering to adhere well to the frame work I didn't want any paint to interfer with the bonding. The only part of the fuselage frame that will be seen is in the cockpit and the observers pit, if painting needs to be done it will be a fairly simple matter.

Thanks Bud for your comments, I haven't even thought about the wings yet, I'm still working out how to convert my Mercedes D.III into a D.I engine.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Jose Chaica on August 08, 2012, 11:03:02 AM
Your work is true inspiration!  :)
I only wish I had the time to get back to my scratchbuilding tools... :-[
Anyway, I´m sure that this is going to be another masterpiece... and even if the airframe ends up hidden, we will always have the pictures.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on August 08, 2012, 12:02:33 PM
Thanks Bud for your comments, I haven't even thought about the wings yet, I'm still working out how to convert my Mercedes D.III into a D.I engine.

Des.
Taurus has one in 1/48 scale.  Maybe these images will help you see what needs to be done.
http://www.taurusmodels.pl/images%2006%20Mercedes.htm
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Whiteknuckles on August 08, 2012, 12:29:26 PM
Great work so far Des - the frame looks nice and tight and up to your usual stratospheric standards!!

Andrew
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on August 08, 2012, 02:01:45 PM
Thanks Bud, I have the Taurus 1:48 scale Mercedes D.I engine in my hot little hands, so it will be used as a reference guide.

Thanks for your comments Andrew and Jose, much appreciated.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on August 08, 2012, 02:17:05 PM
Thanks Bud, I have the Taurus 1:48 scale Mercedes D.I engine in my hot little hands, so it will be used as a reference guide.

Thanks for your comments Andrew and Jose, much appreciated.

Des.
8)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: GAJouette on August 08, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
   Des,
Just one word my old friend, AWESOME.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: lcarroll on August 09, 2012, 12:06:18 AM
And............. he's off and running again!! Des, you are truly a Modeler's modeler, stunning work already, brilliant improvisation (better word then "scratching") and going to be a wonderful spectator experience and we are all, I'm certain, awaiting the next updates with great anticipation.
Great (and unique) subject, great execution, and only the tip of the iceberg I'm sure. Certainly has my attention.....keep it coming!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: bobs_buckles on August 09, 2012, 04:16:18 AM
Lovely work on the frame and rigging, Des  ;)
Keep it coming!

BVB
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Rizzo on August 09, 2012, 05:44:55 PM
That's a great start- I'm looking foward to seeing this one come together :)

Wonderful work Des,  mind-boggling actually.

Wondering what the covering will be? I suppose the original was slightly translucent CDL -- if so, have you thought about mimicking that somehow?

That's what I first thought when I saw all that nice frame detail- would be very cool to be able to see its shadow through the covering.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on August 10, 2012, 03:20:51 AM
Excellent work as usual Des. Your complete  frame work may come to benefit the paint job, as light passing through the covering will pick up the structure.

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 10, 2012, 01:23:20 PM
excited to see this one beginning my friend, i'm sure it will be a stunner.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: specialops on August 11, 2012, 02:24:48 AM
WOW first class job Des

tonyb
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Old Man on August 11, 2012, 12:17:07 PM
Wonderful start, Sir. Though I have never taken  run at one (not even my Pegasus kit), I treasure my old 'Dove of War' monograph, and am very fond of these machines. It will be a pleasure to see you put one together.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on August 11, 2012, 10:12:25 PM
Thanks guys for all your wonderful comments, I just hope that I can live up to your expectations and build something that resembles a Taube.  :-\

I have made the seat (not painted yet), the control column is made and painted, fuel tank is made but not painted, rudder bar is made and I am now in the process of wood graining the two bulkheads, these will take a few days to dry. In the mean time, I will make the three instruments and the switches, also the throttle quadrant. Once I finish all these items and fit them to the fuselage I will have some more photos to show (hopefully).  :)

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on August 15, 2012, 10:13:31 AM
Just a small update. Most of the internal fittings are now made and painted, still need to make the throttle quadrant and add a few control cables, the control column will be fitted next.

Des.

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2038.jpg)

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2042.jpg)

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2041.jpg)

Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: lcarroll on August 15, 2012, 10:32:46 AM
Sweet Des......clean, crisp, and beautifully done. I"m repeating myself I know but these builds are incredible to follow.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on August 15, 2012, 11:31:51 AM
Truly superb craftsmanship, Des.  I think your scratchbuilds are your best models yet.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Whiteknuckles on August 15, 2012, 12:50:26 PM
Superb and beautiful Des.

Andrew
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 16, 2012, 03:14:27 AM
Simply superb.

Cheers,

Chris

Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: OzkanT on August 16, 2012, 04:16:12 AM
Des
Your magnificent works pushes me for new scratch projects .. Go on..  :D

Ozkan
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on August 16, 2012, 10:45:39 AM
Very sharp. I look forward to every update.

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on August 19, 2012, 08:50:47 PM
A small update on progress. I have completed the interior of the cockpit and observers pit, a small shelf was added to the bulkhead in the observers compartment, the fuel tank is fitted and the observers seat cushion is fitted to the top of the fuel tank. Control column is now glued in position and the associated rigging attached.

Des.

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2044.jpg)

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2046.jpg)

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2048.jpg)

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2045.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on August 19, 2012, 10:07:40 PM
Excellent work - as usual!!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Jose Chaica on August 19, 2012, 11:20:17 PM
... and these scratchbuilding "things" just keep getting better, everyday...  :)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on August 20, 2012, 04:01:00 AM
Phenomenal work, Des.  This cockpit is fantastic.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: GAJouette on August 20, 2012, 07:47:06 AM
   Des,
WOW now that's some outstanding progress my old friend. Absolutely beautiful design and craftsmanship.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Dave W on August 20, 2012, 08:50:29 AM
Amazing work Des. Your models deserve to be placed in a high profile aviation museum as they are world class quality.

This one is going to be a worthy companion to the Voisin.

Kind regards

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Whiteknuckles on August 20, 2012, 09:24:35 AM
Lovely work Des - the guys above have got it spot on ;)

Andrew
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: xmald on August 24, 2012, 07:55:29 AM
Des I`m your fan your the scratchbuilding rockstar and I wanna be your groupie  ;) Amazing work mate!
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 24, 2012, 09:02:54 AM
Everything is so pristine and precise. Just beautiful my friend!!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 02, 2012, 04:45:19 PM
Here is a very small update. I have been working on the engine, I am converting a Mercedes D.III to a D.I which involves quite a few modifications. The bottom of the crank case has been reshaped, I did this using an epoxy putty. The three paired cylinders have been made and the manifold flanges added, both inlet and exhaust. I trial fitted the inlet manifold and it fits perfectly not only with height but distance between flanges, I got lucky with this one. I need to add the spark plugs and priming taps, a bit of paint then some plumbing and wiring. The following photos show the uncompleted engine still with plenty of work needed, but it is starting to look a little like a Mercedes D.I engine. The cylinders are not fixed to the crank case at this stage, just sitting there for the photos.

Des.

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2055.jpg)

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2056.jpg)

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2057.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Ronkootje on September 02, 2012, 11:57:22 PM
Nice work!

If you dont paint the parts yet and dont gleu the sub asemblys together. Then send them to me i can cast molds to make the engine in Resin iam sure there are more people that can use this engine, just a idea ofcourse.

Ron
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 03, 2012, 11:11:51 AM
Thanks for the offer to make resin casts of the engine Ron, but last night I painted the engine and added some plumbing, I have also started to add the valve springs and rocker assembly.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Dal Gavan on September 03, 2012, 04:48:55 PM
That's impressive work, Des, this is really coming along very nicely indeed.  I admire the fuselage framing, mate, that's impressive.   

Dal.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 03, 2012, 10:48:57 PM
I'll be watching this engine conversion with great interest. It's nothing I would ever hope to attempt myself, but it sure is interesting to see how you do it.

Geesh, who knew a guy was supposed to actually mark out where various components go!  :o  So much for my 'Mark I Eyeball' approach to modelling.  ;D

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on September 05, 2012, 02:37:52 AM
Outstanding job on the engine, Des.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: GAJouette on September 05, 2012, 07:37:36 AM
  Des,
As always hyper impressive works from your most talented bench my old friend. It's always a grand treat to see another outstanding update has appeared. Looking forward to seeing her engine all decked out in the finest of details.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 07, 2012, 03:55:38 PM
I've been plodding along modifying the engine. The three banks of paired cylinders are now fixed to the crank case, the crank case has had new engine mounts fitted and new nuts and bolts around the joint line. Spark plugs are in and so is  the ignition lead tube. The crank case is painted with Humbrol 27001 Aluminium while the cylinders are painted with Hobby Color H77 Tire Black. Because of the modifications to the carburettor I had to extend the length of the intake manifol pipes, they are painted with a mixture of Gunze metal color paints.

Des.

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2062.jpg)

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2064.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Whiteknuckles on September 08, 2012, 03:36:37 PM
Another outstanding engine in the making Des.
Your upping the ante again aren't you? ;D

Andrew
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 10, 2012, 07:07:05 AM
Just the one photo to show you where I am up to. The other side of the engine needs plugs and leads and some plumbing. I will be adding the throttle linkages to the top of the carburettor plus a bit more plumbing, the water pumps still need to be fixed to the rear of the crank case. It is nearly starting to look like a Mercedes D.I engine, the conversion has been quite involved.

Des.

(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/taube%20x%2067.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 10, 2012, 04:37:41 PM
Wunderbar!
Keep up the great work, Des!

BVB  ;)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on September 11, 2012, 12:38:13 AM
Another gem!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 11, 2012, 12:40:24 AM
As always, when I see wiring like this, I get soooo envious!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Old Man on September 11, 2012, 01:09:01 AM
Marvelous work, Sir!

You are a gentleman and a scholar....
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 12, 2012, 05:02:11 PM
Just a very small update, I have added the throttle linkages and a pipe from the carby, also the water pump and rear engine plate, I also completed the ignition leads on the exhaust side of the engine, I'm waiting on some small plastic tube so I can fitt the water pipes.

Des.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Et4a1-eYcaw/UE_6hx4r7YI/AAAAAAAABJY/xnT1KPNIxk0/s800/taube%2520x%252070.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1Q-PoUvDTOE/UE_6hyRtqTI/AAAAAAAABJc/1NRNk5Z2Nu4/s800/taube%2520x%252071.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9Ctbjoptvfs/UE_6h1V5EAI/AAAAAAAABJg/OTwJNuogKis/s800/taube%2520x%252072.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Dekenba on September 12, 2012, 06:36:30 PM
Bloody hells bells Des, that is simply amazing stuff.

You should seriously think about commercialising this somehow - perhaps building some sort of a kit for others to buy?
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on September 13, 2012, 12:19:10 AM
Wow, Des!  You've done a phenomenal job copying the Taurus engine.  In fact, yours looks even better!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 13, 2012, 01:16:27 PM
I added the two small Mercedes badges to either side of the engine, they are fitted in the front engine mounts. These are made from 0.18mm copper wire, the outer circle is 2.0mm in diameter and the star is made from short lengths of the same size wire, it is all held together with very tiny drops of CA, I painted them with Humbrol 27002 polished aluminium.

Des.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wSTgISPPRsg/UFFLPMNOmzI/AAAAAAAABKQ/t3eTTcegI5s/s800/taube%2520x%252074.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PhrK1jBNgtQ/UFFLPFU-0TI/AAAAAAAABKM/11leffndIBs/s800/taube%2520x%252075.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 14, 2012, 10:09:01 AM
I have made and added the engine bearers, also the bracing supports. This is a trial fit of the engine to see if it fits, it does  :)

Des.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-eIVlV-vT63k/UFJ0fP-yG_I/AAAAAAAABMU/HqT-GSexhZ8/s800/taube%2520x%252076.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lGWNLw8aBLc/UFJ0fJ01kZI/AAAAAAAABMQ/-lAPqArp4t4/s800/taube%2520x%252078.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bNmq3D8q6IQ/UFJ0gqJWZBI/AAAAAAAABMo/vWYxTcJcwfA/s800/taube%2520x%252081.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: IanB on September 14, 2012, 12:13:14 PM
Love it! You get us all gawping at your wonderful details - and then just add more!

Ian
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: RAGIII on September 14, 2012, 02:13:38 PM
Des,
 Sorry for my late entry in commenting on your build :-[  To say your work is Stunning is a shortcoming! Beautifuly done and detailed as we all have come to expect from you!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 14, 2012, 10:15:15 PM
I have started to add the fuselage covering by starting with the cockpit areas. I am using 10 thou Evergreen plastic card which is very easy to work with, the cockpit and observers openings still need the padding added.

Des.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NC6qZLOLZ68/UFMeTsjK4QI/AAAAAAAABNQ/F1sZwkL5yTc/s800/taube%2520x%252082.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YR52_8Wvtsk/UFMeTq7Pr5I/AAAAAAAABNU/ADx_epeCltk/s800/taube%2520x%252083.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NksrLy3t1Fs/UFMeUk-h7DI/AAAAAAAABNc/a9-3WPdmOFs/s800/taube%2520x%252085.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 14, 2012, 11:45:45 PM
Spectacular as always Des. I'll freely admit to being envious of your skill and precision. I look forward to seeing the next installment.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on September 15, 2012, 01:12:41 AM
Des, all I can say is that I'm truly and utterly gobsmacked, mate.  She's as clean and tight and detailed as any WNW kit.  Maybe more so.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: LindsayT on September 15, 2012, 02:31:07 AM
Beautiful work thus far, Des. Definitely deserving of all the superlatives, and I love the Mercedes symbol!

Question: how do you cut out curved lines like the cockpit openings so cleanly? I imagine for straight lines you're cutting along a straight-edge, but those curved lines look flawless. Pray tell?

Lindsay
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 15, 2012, 06:43:50 AM
Thanks Chris, Bud and Lindsay for your kind comments.

Lindsay - Using the 1:32 scale plans I have, I cut out the section involving the cockpit, I then remove the centre section (the hole) from the plan using a sharp scalpel blade, this is then placed on the sheet of plastic and marked with a fine tip marker. I cut the 'holes' using a very sharp scalpel blade (No.22) following the drawn line, this cutting is done free hand, one pass will do a good clean cut as the material is only 0.25mm thick. I think the main ingredient here would be a keen eye and steady hand.

Because of the small size of the Mercedes symbol I was going to forget about it, but after a little bit of experimenting I realised it was not that difficult to make, I'm glad I did go to the little bit of extra effort.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on September 15, 2012, 01:49:11 PM
very,very nice des. hell you just as well cover the thing with tissue/silkspan like a balsa model. you would get that authentic light passing thru effect. fabulous work though really. impressive stuff.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 16, 2012, 09:48:37 AM
Most of the fuselage frame is now covered, it went on very easy. The padding around the cockpit and observers openings are done with 0.9mm plastic tube, CA holds it in place. The inside of the 'fabric' is painted with Gunze Radome H318.

Des.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bHa247kCWSg/UFUDlCLo1RI/AAAAAAAABOE/ePHGobJ1ZYA/s800/taube%2520x%252086.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6_P9GSv0sqg/UFUDlIKGGhI/AAAAAAAABOM/HvKDcSNar_o/s800/taube%2520x%252087.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8SYxAgjtnQI/UFUDlHVPYrI/AAAAAAAABOI/ZzeYG0Dm1Jg/s800/taube%2520x%252088.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on September 16, 2012, 10:58:48 AM
This is very impressive. You make it look so easy - and I know its not!!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 17, 2012, 09:48:29 PM
Thanks Steve for your comments.

Another quickie update. I have added the upper mast, I still need to add the rigging connection plate and a small tank between the mast.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8DtGOGEPDxg/UFcMPB3zzSI/AAAAAAAABO8/csf67DeuvH4/s800/taube%2520x%252092.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cdwSvNsGi0E/UFcMPKUt-lI/AAAAAAAABPA/1XD3ADb6t6M/s800/taube%2520x%252090.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 17, 2012, 11:22:18 PM
I cut the 'holes' using a very sharp scalpel blade (No.22) following the drawn line, this cutting is done free hand, one pass will do a good clean cut as the material is only 0.3mm thick. I think the main ingredient here would be a keen eye and steady hand.

Oh drat. I'm seriously challenged in both of those regards.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on September 18, 2012, 12:44:41 AM
Its interesting looking at the most recent photo then going back to page 1 and scrolling to picture one...four little quarter rounds of plastic. Beautiful work Des!!

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Whiteknuckles on September 18, 2012, 03:56:29 PM
Lovely work Des, you truly make it look easy. The Mercedes symbol on the engine is a very nice touch and really sets off your magnificent engine conversion.

As a matter of interest, do you work on other projects whilst waiting for things to dry, etc, or do you stay on task with the one project?

Andrew
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 18, 2012, 05:05:29 PM
I only ever work on one model at a time Andrew, I stick to it until it's finished then on to the next project, just my way of doing things.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Whiteknuckles on September 18, 2012, 05:20:45 PM
Thanks Des ;)

Andrew
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Edo on September 18, 2012, 05:30:08 PM
Hi Des!
you work is really super!
Nevertheless, I had thought you'd come out with some sort of tricks of yours to cover the fusolage so to let the rigging somewhat visible...

Since I am planning something similar for my Morane Saluvier L, can you suggest something?

Thank you
Ciao
Edo

p.s.
of course any suggestion from everyone is most welcome!  :)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: GHE on September 20, 2012, 02:54:57 AM
Dear Des !

This kind of artwork is first class !
I always liked looking at models, discovering details and the feeling that it makes me fall to my knees
caused by the beauty of it.
Excellent  engineering!
Klasse!

viele Grüße, Gunther
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 20, 2012, 08:11:19 AM
Hi Edo, I didn't have any 'tricks' up my sleeve to give the see through look for the fuselage, this particular aircraft did not have that appearance. Apparently it was covered with balloon fabric and was painted, so the transparency was not obvious. All the photos I have of the Taube do not show any see through effect.

I have added some more plumbing to the engine, this time the water pipe that runs over the top of the engine, it will have two pipes connected at the rear end that go to the radiators, the two white plastic tubes are where the pipes will connect, these will be painted black. I also added the water pipes which are at the base of each set of paired cylinders, I need to add the hose clamps. I made and fitted the rigging attachment plate to the top of the mast, this was made from thin brass sheet with eight 0.3mm holes drilled for the attachment points, I used brass for strength as the rigging will be tensioned to hold the wings.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q3FAOqW-Eow/UFo-teG3AmI/AAAAAAAABg8/ykiAjYF5kQw/s800/taube%2520x%252095.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BRJ3rJH5dZ0/UFo-tYzQY3I/AAAAAAAABhE/LDsFnsAZ8N4/s800/taube%2520x%252096.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Z-WHjyRV30k/UFo-tbyM01I/AAAAAAAABhA/_50wiopvzhQ/s785/taube%2520x%252097.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-r6G7xCs8JHs/UFo-unPlmmI/AAAAAAAABhI/IIoFnjYFFmk/s800/taube%2520x%252098.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on September 20, 2012, 10:44:37 AM
Lovely stuff!!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on September 20, 2012, 02:16:47 PM
Truly brilliant, Des.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on September 20, 2012, 10:20:26 PM
Simply stunning work again Des, you are a master craftsman.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: lcarroll on September 21, 2012, 12:09:16 AM
Des,
   Magnificent. A sheer joy to follow along, this one should be the ultimate "show stopper"!
   Keep those progress posts coming.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Checkers67 on September 21, 2012, 06:06:52 AM
Will it fly off the table? It looks that good!
 ;)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 21, 2012, 02:03:52 PM
The exhaust pipes are made from 1.5mm brass tube, to get the correct shape they were bent around a piece of 14mm brass rod then cut to size. As there was very little to locate the pipes to the cylinders (there are no stays or cross members) I used 5 minute epoxy resin, once dry I added extra security by running CA around each joint. I will leave them for 24 hours to cure fully before painting.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y_xYsnM57n8/UFvkNHonWeI/AAAAAAAABkY/4xwQ0F5udxA/s800/taube%2520x%2520102.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-x_QsQFR0SHw/UFvkNLFJnwI/AAAAAAAABkc/CmesDUwk8cY/s800/taube%2520x%2520103.jpg)

Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Vladimir Ziska on September 21, 2012, 08:22:36 PM
Hi Des,

superb, superb, superb... master of scratch.

Cheers,

Vladimir
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: miecio52 on September 21, 2012, 10:33:29 PM
Des,Anyone who builds a model from scratch is a great hobby, congratulations.
Mietek
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 21, 2012, 11:55:25 PM
The exhaust pipes look superb Des. Did you insert a piece of brass or copper wire inside the tubes when you made the bends, to prevent them from deforming?

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on September 22, 2012, 12:18:39 AM
As I have mentioned on UT's project, work like this is so good its almost a shame to paint it!!

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 22, 2012, 07:10:35 AM
Thanks very much for all the nice comments.

Chris - The radius of the bend was large enough not to cause the brass tube to deform, so they were left hollow. I did experiment first just to make sure, no heat was required either.

Steve - Sometimes I really don't want to add paint, it hides a lot of the really fine details, but it is a necessary evil.

UncleTony - Getting the same shape into each pipe was quite simple, but fixing them in position was a bit of a pain. I used 5 minute epoxy and had to hold each pipe in position for 5 minutes while the glue set, five minutes is a long time when you are hold something very still. Once the glue started to grab it gave me time to reposition the pipes to get them all at the same angle

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Whiteknuckles on September 22, 2012, 10:54:16 AM
That looks superb Des, did you position them to the correct angle by eye?

Andrew
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Checkers67 on September 22, 2012, 11:56:26 AM
Amazing. So you wrapped the tube around a rod. It sounds so simple. Being sort of novice here, how were you able to bend the pipe without crushing it? How much force and tool do you use for this result? Your skills leave me awe struck.

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 22, 2012, 12:02:12 PM
Hi Andrew - yes, they were positioned by eye, once the 5 minute epoxy had started to set, enough to hold the exhaust pipe in place but still flexible enough to reposition them, that is when I did the final adjustments. Once the first one was in place it was a simple matter to align each one to it just by sighting along the top, the side and from above. After 24 hours the 5 minute epoxy becomes rock hard and hold the pipes extremely well.

Hi Steve - The brass tube is 1.5mm and is reasonably soft, I bent it at 90 degrees around a 14mm brass rod, this was done just with my fingers, very little force was needed and no tools required. Because of the fairly large radius it did not crush or deform the tube.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 26, 2012, 01:01:30 PM
I have managed to shape the nose section, this was done firstly by adding strips of 0.3mm plastic card then getting the final shape by using Humbrol putty and a lot of sanding. I found that the Humbrol Putty, which comes in a tube, dries way too quick, so I dispensed the entire tube contents into a jar and added lacquer thinners, I mixed it well and added more thinners until I had a nice thick creamy mixture, this makes the product very useable and slows the drying time, it still dries within minutes to a very hard easy sandable putty. The first photo shows the nose shaping under way, the other two photos shows a coat of Gunze yellow base coat just to see if there are any irregularities, the prop is there just for show but is the one that will be used. The engine bay opening is large enough to allow me to fit and remove the engine, a little tricky but can be done without breaking anything.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ws-hGo6kLKg/UGA4S_Dj47I/AAAAAAAABpQ/ClWMpLJhsGE/s800/taube%2520x%2520107.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--adlI73XB8s/UGJspfDC4cI/AAAAAAAABqQ/JMJnVUGE-zY/s800/taube%2520x%2520109.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FOL7koVrT44/UGJspYv_MYI/AAAAAAAABqM/Ui9qPJf1tqA/s800/taube%2520x%2520110.jpg)

Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 26, 2012, 04:35:51 PM
I have splashed a bit of Humbrol Polished aluminium on the nose section, I still need to do the swirls (???????) I have also started to do the tail, the two fins have been added, not much progress but progress all the same.

Des.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-prs8UTY8WJ8/UGKgxSLp4_I/AAAAAAAABq0/VGfiZBeLptA/s800/taube%2520x%2520111.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rtjOpXECy6Y/UGKgytb2IiI/AAAAAAAABrA/38JgBMfVxQg/s800/taube%2520x%2520114.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4jM8ayrBXVY/UGKgyhpU3eI/AAAAAAAABrE/5jAlZ9JqIvc/s800/taube%2520x%2520115.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kvNTmULNTLs/UGKgxfbyIqI/AAAAAAAABqw/ftgBvyzmbFU/s800/taube%2520x%2520113.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yESAK4ccLp0/UGKgxXPYCuI/AAAAAAAABqs/FOSDCqt50ts/s800/taube%2520x%2520112.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Whiteknuckles on September 26, 2012, 05:47:46 PM
Mr Rimell has replied in his thread on the new WNW E.III exactly how he did the sworls on the aluminium cowling....could be useful?

Andrew
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Rizzo on September 26, 2012, 07:11:17 PM
I've not seen this progress on this one for a while, so it's surprising to see how much it's come on so quickly!
Looks fantastic, the extra work that went into the engine really shows
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on September 26, 2012, 10:37:11 PM
This is shaping up nicely. The subtle diffferences in the side nose panels are noted. Great work!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on September 28, 2012, 12:44:12 PM
This is a trial fit of the undercarriage, I fitted pins to the top of each undercarriage leg and inserted them into holes drilled into the bottom of the fuselage, this makes for a very solid assembly which supports the airframe well.

Des.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IXwx5wuy7FQ/UGTKhow-xYI/AAAAAAAABzE/V0GQWcYWgyI/s800/taube%2520x%2520121.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bKDUdEp6cl8/UGTKf2Z3b6I/AAAAAAAABys/Ad2KDYB_Dz0/s800/taube%2520x%2520116.jpg)

I also made and fitted the top pulley to take the elevator cable, the pulley is made from small brass washers with a 0.25mm copper wire axle, it fits neatly into the brass tube fin and rudder support, CA holds it very well.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-THGMhhYZzQs/UGTKg8qIYNI/AAAAAAAABy4/7Wm_CFlw5b4/s800/taube%2520x%2520119.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Jamo on September 28, 2012, 07:24:01 PM
Hi Des
When you get around to doing the swirls on the engine panels, check out the 'How to Do' guide that Wingnut Wings have just published on their website as par of their 'Duelists' release. They make it look easy!

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/1FD5C6BA51C282213D3735F5E420694C

Cheers
James
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 01, 2012, 07:41:18 AM
I painted the swirls on the front end, they turned out looking very similar to photos I have of the original aircraft, anyway, it's the best I can do so it will have to do. I added the four steps to the bottom of the fuselage, two at the front and two behind the cockpit, I also made and fitted the wing mounting brackets. The two rudders have been made and painted with the final colour, the colour is close to what I have in photo reference, but the aircraft is a restored example so I don't know if it is the correct colour, again, it will do.

Des.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--0_-EGgQ3BE/UGi6Q7r0tQI/AAAAAAAABzs/Mb2ANStS1Hk/s800/taube%2520x%2520123.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7CGwJwT_ffs/UGi6Q-nOdyI/AAAAAAAABz0/7HnVOJKjHO8/s800/taube%2520x%2520124.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-LadHOKZvGCI/UGi6SRIWMKI/AAAAAAAAB0A/IVqG8RCLA20/s800/taube%2520x%2520126.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-DAA8K9ZxyGM/UGi6S95uBGI/AAAAAAAAB0E/ks2WbsD-qyw/s800/taube%2520x%2520127.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on October 01, 2012, 07:46:05 AM
Brilliant update, Des.  This is really fun to follow.  Like following a really hot woman on the beach in a bikini.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 01, 2012, 09:57:08 PM
I have applied some colour to the fuselage, this is a pretty close match to what is shown in the photos I have. This is Humbrol enamel No.154 Insignia Yellow, I added a touch of Ferrari Red to give me the orange colour, then I added a tad of black to darken it then I finished off with some white to give it the correct balance. The cockpit padding is painted with Gunze Chocolate Brown.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LWA0i_3CoM8/UGmCezgikeI/AAAAAAAAB2g/cfpS-f_wXeU/s800/taube%2520x%2520133.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-toCdiFX3wp8/UGmCe1e90tI/AAAAAAAAB2k/hEzPlYnX-W8/s800/taube%2520x%2520135.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OxPVbyKtHPw/UGmCffActdI/AAAAAAAAB24/DUn1C8gaeH4/s800/taube%2520x%2520136.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UOHLhAAFU34/UGmCf1fsWII/AAAAAAAAB28/49UhyBZ8Lew/s800/taube%2520x%2520137.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on October 01, 2012, 10:38:45 PM
You're really making great headway with this build Des. Superb craftsmanship as always, with absolutely no imperfections that I can see. I'm amazed as always.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on October 02, 2012, 02:47:05 AM
Des, I've erected a shrine with photos of your builds, votive candles, garland and a goblet of wine in the corner of my modeling room.  Super-human modeling, mate!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Adam on October 02, 2012, 03:16:16 AM
Fuselage is superb.
Adam.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: LindsayT on October 02, 2012, 04:47:46 AM
Beautiful work, Des. Not sure what other superlatives I can add that the others haven't used. That's pretty much the main reason why I reserve comment until your final unveil!  ;)

I wouldn't mind asking a question though, if it's not too mundane or general. Just seems a propos to ask it here. It's in regards to how you mix the paints that you used in this case for the yellow (Insignia Yellow with a mix of orange, red, black, and white). Specifically:

1.What do you use to decant from the paint tin to the palette / airbrush "hopper" (don't know the actual name)?
2. How does the method you use from Q#1 get you any precision?

I can just see a situation where you need to go back and paint a section of the fuselage again, and presumably you'd want the paint to match, and match fairly precisely at that. That leads me to believe that you have a pretty exact paint ratio to give you the colour that you want, which further leads me to believe that you have a tool to measure the paint volume fairly precisely, too. Or do you just mix up a big batch, eyeballing the colour and put it in a jar for later use?

Thanks for putting up with the rookie question...

Lindsay
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 02, 2012, 07:31:51 AM
Thank you for all the kind comments, they are much appreciated.

Lindsay - Exactly what Tony said, I use a pipette to transfer the paint from one container to another. For this particular build I will need quite a bit of paint so I initially poured a full tin of the Insignia Yellow into a larger container (I prefer glass jars with a screw cap). I started by adding the red, one drop at a time and mixing between drops, I keep doing this until I reached the desired colour, I then did the same with the black paint, then the white. Each time I make an adjustment I keep a record of the paint ratio just in case I need it for future reference, but because I have made quite a lot of paint for this build I will not need to mix any more, so I didn't need to keep a record. This is quite a large amount of paint so I will have enough to complete the entire model and have some left over.

As Tony said, the pipettes can be cleaned quite easily and lacquer thinner does a great job.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: LindsayT on October 02, 2012, 11:45:37 AM
That's excellent, thanks for taking time to answer that, UncleTony and Des. Much appreciated.  :)

Back to the build...

LT
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on October 03, 2012, 08:49:41 AM
for years every time i buy a new humbrol paint i purchase a $1 glass jar and stir and transfer to the new jar. i then label the jar with a sharpie and paint the lid so i can easily from above see the paint color. i also have many extra and larger glass jars to make custom mixs that i will use many times in the future. things like a ger mauve mix a pc-10 mix. several cdl mixs for diff applications etc.

on the taube,brilliant work des. i cant wait to see what you do with the flying surfaces and rigging. that thing has some wires on it.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 03, 2012, 09:20:41 PM
Here is a quickie update. The undercarriage is now painted and fixed in position, the auxiliary fuel tank with tap and feed pipe are fitted and the reinforcing fabric patches are added to the fuselage, I also added the hand hold on the left side just behind the cockpit.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5TYWTATtePc/UGuY8XvqctI/AAAAAAAAB3s/EQgjWnX15dc/s800/taube%2520x%2520142.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gf19-xM-sTY/UGuY7OISQBI/AAAAAAAAB3c/nJ6mObOX11M/s800/taube%2520x%2520138.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on October 04, 2012, 08:36:58 AM
Beautiful....and the necessary evil painting is fantastic.

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: modelmaker on October 04, 2012, 10:30:54 PM
Beautiful work DES what more can I say that hasn't already been said!

Sean
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Whiteknuckles on October 05, 2012, 12:10:21 PM
Wonderful work Des, she's looking very nice indeed. The cowling work is excellent.
Looking forward to seeing how you construct her wings.

Andrew
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on October 06, 2012, 01:56:17 AM
That cowling is amazing, Des.  Looks just like the photos of the real thing.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Dal Gavan on October 06, 2012, 05:17:48 PM
Des, you're a master.  Beautiful work, mate, truly impressive.

Dal.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on October 07, 2012, 03:13:03 PM
Stunnnn-Innggggggg... :o :o :o :o :o

Don't know what else to say!  Well done, Des.

Dan
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 08, 2012, 08:42:00 PM
I have taken a few more small steps. The entire model has been sprayed with Humbrol satin clear and the engine is now fixed in position. I made the decals to fit the two rudders and for the sides of the fuselage. The tail plane is also fixed and is ready for rigging.

Des.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--PoYEmrnlFA/UHKru_Pq_AI/AAAAAAAACBw/5T7yBcjwXpc/s800/taube%2520x%2520146.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qHlHzPdUwkc/UHKru8trXzI/AAAAAAAACBs/yZGjSBgh6LU/s800/taube%2520x%2520145.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FghPE6jj3g4/UHKru_Y5IuI/AAAAAAAACB0/02qrHcSLVnE/s800/taube%2520x%2520144.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on October 08, 2012, 08:57:23 PM
She's really looking like a Taube now, mate!  Truly breath-taking.  Just rigging that tail will be a major undertaking, but I know you'll love every minute of it.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on October 08, 2012, 11:12:18 PM
That's quite a tail!

In looking at them, one would think that your decals were professionally made. They look that good. Come to think of it, they are professionally done as is everything else about this scratchbuilt model!

Well done, and I'm looking forward to seeing what comes next.

I have to go now and scrape the errant blobs of glue and paint from my latest 'creation' . . .  :o :( ;D

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 09, 2012, 10:48:43 AM
Thanks Bud and Chris, your comments are always most welcomed. For the very small contact area the tail has with the fuselage the bond is excellent and has made a very strong assembly, I used plastic glue initially then reinforced it with a small drop of CA at each of the contact points, four each side. Your right Chris, it is quite a tail, when you look at the size of the tail and then compare it with the tiny fins and rudders it looks out of proportion, but it must have worked well. The massive big lump of steel and aluminium up front, the engine, dominates the entire look of the plane, for such a huge engine to deliver only 100hp seems unbelieveable, it's easy to understand why these early aircraft were battling to get off the ground let alone stay aloft.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on October 09, 2012, 02:33:16 PM
wow des. i cant wait to see her with wings.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: dirk on October 09, 2012, 05:00:13 PM
Hi Des,

I just have noticed your project this morning and followed your built through the whole process. I am deeply impressed by your abilities, especially the frame and the engine are masterpieces in itself. Building those Wingnut Kits is one thing and quite challenging, but scratchbuilding such an tiny airplane needs so much more...

By the way: Can you give me some details about the camera and the arrangement (i. e. lights) that you are using?

Formidable, stunning work, Des!!!

Dirk
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 11, 2012, 09:36:06 AM
Thanks Scott and Dirk for our kind comments. This project scared me at the start but now that I have settled in I am enjoying every aspect of the build. I have started to do the rigging on the tail, I'm using 0.12mm mono with 0.5mm brass tube turnbuckles and 0.13mm twisted copper wire eyelets, CA holds everything together well.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ujpHkrInqDc/UHYEbDykNiI/AAAAAAAACLs/wvhgzpUaILw/s800/taube%2520x%2520153.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-tYEMLFVoSNs/UHYEcDMqr4I/AAAAAAAACL0/r8gOJRLHY10/s800/taube%2520x%2520151.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: IanB on October 11, 2012, 12:40:45 PM
That's the easy bit done... ;)

Ian
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on October 11, 2012, 01:16:53 PM
This project scared me at the start but now that I have settled in I am enjoying every aspect of the build.
Des.
Des, I have the Copper State and the Flashback 1/48 scale Taubes and was a bit scared to start them, as well.  Watching this amazing project progress has taken away all (well, most) trepidation.  Thank you so much for blazing the trail so brilliantly.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 12, 2012, 10:59:00 AM
The tail end rigging is now completed, not as hard as I first thought it would be. The biggest issues were the eight lines running to the elevator, as each line was tensioned the two either side slackened, so it was a matter of continuing to tension until all lines were equally taut, time consuming but not difficult. As can be seen, there is a turnbuckle on each line, the small triangle where all the cables join was made from two pieces of thin brass sheet, the lines were sandwiched between the two plates and super glued.

Des.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ax9pAiIA7_w/UHdo5bMVV9I/AAAAAAAACRk/voO8m_GCQ7U/s800/taube%2520x%2520155.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BRIgeiCq4Xo/UHdo5fxNvrI/AAAAAAAACRo/gAcZSBYgrOk/s800/taube%2520x%2520156.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UN6rNcO6ApM/UHdo5ZbpstI/AAAAAAAACRs/BHU6oAJ6UAE/s800/taube%2520x%2520157.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_Kj8yvGLNgk/UHdo6lSfqPI/AAAAAAAACR8/QE9_qyOrtKw/s800/taube%2520x%2520159.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on October 12, 2012, 11:30:26 AM
She's a beaut!!!


Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on October 12, 2012, 11:43:05 AM
Gorgeous rigging, Des! 
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Whiteknuckles on October 12, 2012, 02:48:04 PM
Now that looks fiddly in the extreme but so very much worth it. Excellent Des ;)

Andrew
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Jamo on October 12, 2012, 04:13:13 PM
Hi Des
The Jeannin Stahltaube is the perfect canvas for your superlative rigging. Wahoo! Really gets the viewers attention.
Eye candy indeed
Cheers
James
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on October 12, 2012, 04:43:14 PM
Superb Des... Excellent build all round.  Looking forward to the wings.!!!
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on October 13, 2012, 01:04:00 AM
Truly lovely, Des!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on October 13, 2012, 01:51:29 AM
Simply awesome Des. Your rigging looks immaculate as always. The profile view is the one that caused my jaw to drop as it gives me a glimpse of how difficult it must have been to get everything squared up and properly tensioned. A mere mortal like me would never even consider attempting anything so demanding. I tip my hat to you . . . again!  ;D

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: modelmaker on October 13, 2012, 09:58:51 AM
Des your passion and dedication for your hobby really shows in your work there would only be a handful of people on this planet who can achieve this level of detail at this scale and all from scratch, amazing work, what more can be said!

Sean
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: drdave on October 13, 2012, 06:25:09 PM
I verify your goodness, Des ;D
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: lcarroll on October 14, 2012, 08:14:47 AM
I'll never "quack" again about how tough a rigging session was; simply incredibly magnificent work Des, what a beauty indeed!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 14, 2012, 10:41:00 AM
Thank you very much for all the lovely comments, they are much appreciated.

I have a small update. I made the first radiator which I have already mounted on the left side of the fuselage, I used 0.4mm brass coated copper wire for the radiator core, this was purchased from a craft/beading shop. I will spend today making the other radiator.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LhfGsl2ig_g/UHlO4_G2UJI/AAAAAAAACSk/EpyFKr99rHs/s800/taube%2520x%2520161.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Y3kAlkrpMco/UHlO46IU8UI/AAAAAAAACSg/1j6QfvFHmCw/s800/taube%2520x%2520162.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: lcarroll on October 14, 2012, 11:31:16 AM
Brilliant!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on October 14, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
Gulp. Wow.
Yep.  Me, too.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: IanB on October 15, 2012, 12:39:30 AM
Absolutely gorgeous Des.
 It's certainly got me starting to think of ways to do that tail rigging in 1:72 and I'm looking forward to seeing how you handle the wings... I have 2 Tauben - a Pegasus Etrich and a Choroszy Rumpler, waiting in the stash...after seeing this build, they may not stay there too much longer, I feel a need coming on... ;)

Ian
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: N.C.S.E on October 16, 2012, 10:23:19 PM
Those radiators are amazing. Period. I love them, you need to go into business selling just those radiators Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 17, 2012, 11:11:49 AM
This is my first ever attempt at making a spoked wheel. I used 0.1mm invisible thread for the spokes, centre hub is a short length of 1.5mm brass tube with a small plastic washer on either end. Naturally, it needs a tyre which I will work on next. You will also notice that I have made and fitted the lower wing rigging mast which also incorporates the 'brake', a very crude braking system but it must have worked.

Des.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cc18ilvppKw/UH4EOtug5sI/AAAAAAAACaY/XjKLmbZQr7I/s800/taube%2520x%2520168.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pCHlFyCk9IQ/UH4EOv2mTnI/AAAAAAAACac/raiNKsk53qY/s800/taube%2520x%2520170.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: modelmaker on October 17, 2012, 06:29:49 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D Lol !!! Sorry Des I'm not laughing at your beautiful work just the technology of the era !
Love the wheels, superb work!

Sean
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Steven Robson on October 17, 2012, 07:11:04 PM
I’m very, very pleased with your Spoked Wheel Des!

Please promise me that you will never-ever enter your Taube in the October Scale Model Competition in South Australia.

Damn, why did I let you have that spoked wheel tutorial!

Seriously though, you’ve done a great job Des.  I think the washers at each end of the hub make a big difference.

I take-my-hat-off to your wonderful scratch-build Taube.

The more spoked wheels on WW1, the better (I hope you're all listening kit-makers).

Very impressed
Regards
Steven Robson
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 17, 2012, 07:44:55 PM
Wheel-Tastic spoking, Des  ;)

Cheers,
BVB  :)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: N.C.S.E on October 17, 2012, 10:23:01 PM
Hmm... Taube for carrier operations...? With a brake like that it just might work...
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on October 17, 2012, 10:27:31 PM
This just gets better with every stage Des... Not only the excellent quality of your build and the finish, but also the speed you work at.  I guess you are not rushing, more that you do what you do naturally, and you do it very well indeed!
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on October 18, 2012, 08:48:51 AM
Inspiring to say the very least Des! Mechanically challenged as always, I still have to figure out how you can use thread for the spokes.  :o With that arresting hook, the Taube would've been right at home on a carrier deck.  ;D

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on October 18, 2012, 03:08:39 PM
RB that is a bit of everyday science I didnt even think about!!! Very cool. Des the spoked wheels rads etc look amazing. Those wings are on the horizon....

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 18, 2012, 03:44:16 PM
Shhh Steve, I'm trying to forget about the wings, but I'm running out of other things to do. I will have to bite the bullet soon and start thinking seriously about how to tackle the wings, a very scary prospect.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on October 18, 2012, 10:52:24 PM
Don't forget things don't sit on spoked wheels, they hang in them - all the weight is bourne by the upper spokes under tension, the lower spokes don't carry any weight at all.

Forget?? I didn't even know they worked this way!  :o  but now that you mention it, it makes sense. That being the case though, how do you maintain the illusion of even tension on the spokes when there's more tension on the upper ones than lower ones? Des' wheel sure looks like there's even tension all around as I see no apparent sagging.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 19, 2012, 06:23:29 AM
There is a great deal of tension on the spokes Chris, I could play a tune on these strings because they are pretty tight. Like RB said, all the weight of the aircraft is trying to push the centre hub down, this is stopped by the upper spokes which take all the weight, if tensioned equally there is no fear of the bottom spokes becoming slack.

I did not use the spoked wheel tutorial Steven Robson so kindly posted on our forum, I devised my own system which required me to plan a lacing pattern for the size wheel I was building, then I made my own jig which had 20 small hooks on either side (40 in total), these held each of the spokes in place. I have now made the second wheel which also includes the valve stem. As with most new ideas the first build is always the hardest, the second wheel was much easier and quicker. I have fitted a tyre to the first wheel, I used an o-ring of appropriate size, I flattened the inside of the tyre by sanding it, it then sat nice and flat on the rim.

Since completing the second wheel I have thought of a few modifications to my jig which would make life a lot easier when making the wheels, I will work on this next time i have to make a set of spoked wheels.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: dirk on October 19, 2012, 07:00:15 AM
Hi Des,

your wheels are really impressing. I was trying to make some wheels for my brisfit but they were not convincing to my eyes. Overall great progress on your UNBELIEVABLE scratch project.

Dirk
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 19, 2012, 03:30:46 PM
When I get the time I will show the method I used to make my spoked wheels, my jig is only a basic prototype but I needed something to start with so don't expect to see a world class spoked wheel making tool. I promise I will post the photos soon but for the time being I have more pressing issues which need to be addressed.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 19, 2012, 03:39:50 PM
I completed the spoked wheels today, I added the tyre which is a simple o-ring. I ground the inside of the o-ring flat using my Dremel, this allows the tyre to sit flat on the rim. The tyre is a reasonably tight fit on the rim so no glue was needed, I also fitted a valve stem to each wheel using a length of 0.3mm brass tube, I sprayed the rims/spokes/hub with a Gunze grey before fitting the tyre. These wheel are not perfect but they suit my needs.

Des.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6e7pTzhlpDE/UIDlzm4rPyI/AAAAAAAACc0/0yEa9w1ktCs/s800/taube%2520x%2520171.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ocopcv0XSb4/UIDlzpAixwI/AAAAAAAACcs/TjK3kIWvan8/s800/taube%2520x%2520173.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hfkKfqg78w8/UIDlznLVumI/AAAAAAAACcw/eks1nY1GMFA/s800/taube%2520x%2520172.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on October 19, 2012, 04:51:51 PM
What's not perfect about those wheels?!!
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on October 20, 2012, 12:08:50 AM
Excellent wheels, Des!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: GAJouette on October 20, 2012, 01:06:11 AM
   Des,
Absolutely gorgeous works my old friend. Master Level project from start to present.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 20, 2012, 06:41:25 AM
I have had a few guys ask me for a size comparison of the Taube compared to another common aircraft, here it is beside the Albatros D.V. As you can see, the size of the two aircraft are fairly comparable apart from the extra long tail on the Taube. The front end of the Taube is dominated by the huge engine while the Albatros engine is more enclosed, it is interesting to see the changes in aircraft design for such a short period of time.

Des.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cHA55qS0KJg/UIG5AHxyTEI/AAAAAAAACe4/evxFHkpOqrU/s800/taube%2520x%2520176.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Wbcz1Os6754/UIG5AKgN6UI/AAAAAAAACe8/e6W0sWnWydE/s800/taube%2520x%2520178.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-G7Sl2kAEFpM/UIG5BPaHhrI/AAAAAAAACfA/CVoSy6t264c/s800/taube%2520x%2520179.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-E47pV7E6wEY/UIG5ALrquDI/AAAAAAAACe0/XPKRMgt3ae8/s800/taube%2520x%2520177.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on October 20, 2012, 07:57:06 AM
Its THAT TAIL that makes it look so much bigger.

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on October 24, 2012, 10:45:51 AM
Those wings are gonna REALLY make it look bigger.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 24, 2012, 10:56:36 AM
Thanks for reminding me Tony, I new there was something missing  ??? ???

I have actually started work on the wings but I have been battling an eye infection for three days now, the drops I am using are starting to do their job but it makes it difficult to model when one eye is a constant blur. Work will resume hopefully in a few days once I can see properly again.

The wings are not as long as I first imagined, but they are very wide, the wingspan will be 44cm and the width at the widest point will be 9.5cm, so it will be quite a large wing area.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 27, 2012, 10:01:36 AM
My eye infection has all cleared so it's now back to work. I have nearly completed one wing, I ran out of materials for the second wing so new stocks arrived yesterday. The wing is made from 3.0mm styrene sheet cut to shape then sanded to the correct thickness, the bend (airfoil shape) was achieved using the boiling water method. The ribs are 0.75mm x 0.5mm Evergreen strips. The ailerons still need to be added. The cross is only printed on paper to check the dimensions, these will be printed on water slide decal paper. I also fitted HGW seat belts and the radiator over flow pipe. Photos show wing just sitting in position.

Des

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fy4wgtWrJYg/UIsHxM2zc4I/AAAAAAAACmw/WSgUdPrNgPg/s800/taube%2520x%2520181.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VhpNyQsNS3w/UIsHxBHfZBI/AAAAAAAACm4/C9FA5lonwRU/s800/taube%2520x%2520182.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J6Q52_qoVag/UIsHxHWLS8I/AAAAAAAACm0/mNpsdHUxRA0/s800/taube%2520x%2520183.jpg)


Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on October 27, 2012, 10:29:28 AM
Thats a big jump!!! Nice!!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on October 27, 2012, 03:20:37 PM
wow,the wings, what makes a taube look like a taube. one questions, you said you have to add the aileron? did this version(jeannin) have them? i thought they were all wing warpers like a m.s. type n or eindecker. i know ive seen other taubes with more traditional tail feathers,the rumpler taube comes to mind. this build is really turning out fantastic des. your skills never seem to stand still ,always getting better and better and better. when are you gnna start scratching full size replicas?
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 27, 2012, 04:23:48 PM
Thanks guys for your nice comments.

Scott - when I said the word ailerons I used the term loosely, they will be part of the wing as per the original aircraft and will be the warping type, I found it easier to do this part of the build in two parts. Once I make the 'ailerons' they will be attached to the wings and will appear to be as one, I hope. As you know, the warping part of the wings were made of bamboo, they were bound to the wing ribs so there was a difference in thickness between the ribs and the bamboo giving a step, I hope to replicate this.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on October 27, 2012, 11:53:24 PM
Having now seen this one wing, I'm beginning to see the attraction of this design. It really does look more like a bird than any other aircraft design I've seen yet. Nice work Des!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on October 29, 2012, 06:23:53 PM
The second wing is now completed, next step is to make and fit the warping ailerons.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R5aoTPCy2kw/UI47nSCHv7I/AAAAAAAACsU/K6NqzyGMPgA/s800/taube%2520x%2520185.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-adt_IVyQ_68/UI47oQhjqHI/AAAAAAAACsc/wDb7WNNvfR4/s809/taube%2520x%2520187.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Jose Chaica on October 29, 2012, 08:53:53 PM
Marvellous...  :)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on October 29, 2012, 11:31:36 PM
She's turning into a real work of art Des. Superb workmanship!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on October 30, 2012, 02:34:41 AM
Excellent work on the wings, Des.  I like the technique.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on October 30, 2012, 09:14:50 AM
Amazing work. The wings now make this a large bird!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Whiteknuckles on October 30, 2012, 11:11:45 AM
Amazing Des, she's a good looking bird. Excellent job so far :D

Andrew
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: lcarroll on October 31, 2012, 12:48:00 AM
A beauty to behold, nicely done on the wings, Des.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on October 31, 2012, 10:51:17 AM
i see what you mean des, i think the underside of this part of the wing was uncovered too, so as the rib extensions were exposed.what a stunning looking model this is becoming.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on November 01, 2012, 09:01:14 PM
Thanks guys for all your kind words.

Scott - All the photo reference and datafile plans I have for this particular plane I am building do not show any part of the underside of the wing as being uncovered. Other variants of the Taube may have had this feature but my Jeannin Taube 180/14 did not. The only section of the wing which has no covering is a small area next the the fuselage, this was left open to give the pilot and observer better visibility.

When I think about it, if a section of the wing was left uncovered that part of the wing would not have aerodynamic properties, drag would be increased and performance reduced, I can't see any benefit for leaving parts of a wing uncovered, it defeats the whole concept of a wing.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: dirk on November 02, 2012, 07:52:48 AM
Hi Des,

amazing work and incdedible craftmanship. Being so impressed of your work I have searched my photo library and posted some pics of the Jeannin Stahltaube at the "Deutsches Technik Museum", Berlin.

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=1006.msg14959#msg14959

Enjoy
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on November 02, 2012, 06:27:27 PM
Thanks Dirk for posting the photos of the Taube, I have been using reference photos from the museum for my build. The example on show is a restored machine and is fairly close to what the original was like, I was lucky enough to have Jamo, one of our members, lend me a book which covers the restoration of that particular aircraft, it came in extremely useful. I also followed Datafile 104 which is full of period photos and plans, without this information the project would not have got off the ground.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on November 02, 2012, 08:19:29 PM
I have one wing nearly completed, I added the warping section of the wing. These photos show the beautiful shape of the wing which makes the Taube really stand out, one photo shows the washout I built into the warping section. I made this section of the wing using two layers of 0.5mm styrene sheet, they were cut to shape then glued together, while the glue was still wet I formed the washout, then allowed the glue to set, once dry the wing retained it's shape. I then added the ribs and scallops. The wing has had only one light coat of paint to highlight any flaws which might exist. I still need to add all the rigging to the wing, this will be done once both wings are fixed to the fuselage.

Des.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P7oObxcZvCo/UJOcDqi2GtI/AAAAAAAACuo/Dc-xItzz_V4/s800/taube%2520x%2520190.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3A9G_hfxr7M/UJOcDqJXw-I/AAAAAAAACuk/U7LrRGulPx0/s800/taube%2520x%2520191.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZvbzbTXwytA/UJOcDv_CZRI/AAAAAAAACus/RoatijcLW3M/s800/taube%2520x%2520192.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-juG8h612xjc/UJOcEyBVAOI/AAAAAAAACu8/LFco52wk2aE/s800/taube%2520x%2520194.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on November 02, 2012, 11:06:10 PM
The addition of that warping section of the wing certainly adds real beauty to this bird Des. It's going to be spectacular looking when you get both wings installed and fully rigged. I'm looking forward to seeing the rigging, so keep your nose to the grindstone, and get 'er done!  ;D

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: GAJouette on November 02, 2012, 11:19:30 PM
  Des,
As always my old friend absolute Master Level work. I'm looking forward to seeing those awesome wing fully rigged and expect it to be something to behold.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette

Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 02, 2012, 11:20:30 PM
A thing of beauty, Des... and it isn't even finished yet!

The light at the end of the tunnel will soon be upon you!
Cheers,
BVB   ;)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on November 02, 2012, 11:35:22 PM
.....mmmmmmmnaaaah Ive seen better....I'd start over..... ;D Really beautiful and truly the bird form man has always tried to recreate.

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on November 03, 2012, 01:39:25 AM
Now, that's beautiful, Des.  Outstanding job on the washout.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: mgunns on November 06, 2012, 12:27:23 AM
Hello Des:

You do amazing work!  That's all I know.  The Taube is certainly a milestone a/c and  you are certainly doing milestone work with it.   Truly inspirational.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on November 06, 2012, 08:57:04 AM
Thanks guys for your wonderful comments.

Both wings are now completed and ready for decals. I needed to think up a way to hold the wings to the fuselage which was going to add strength to the assembly. I used a length of 2.0mm chrome plated steel rod which runs through the fuselage in the observers pit as far towards the rear bulkhead as possible, the rod protrudes 12.0mm past the sides of the fuselage and into each wing, and as can be seen by the photos the wings are supported by this rod and are held level with no other external support, there is no glue used at this stage either. The section on the wing where the rod is inserted is 3.0mm thick, so drilling the 12.0mm deep hole 2.0mm in diameter was not a problem. Decals and rigging and it will be done.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CsFmdnqnJJg/UJc5wE3HcrI/AAAAAAAACv8/_6j2IK2nrR0/s800/taube%2520x%2520197.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Tk_Zz5BbPJE/UJc5xL0RNTI/AAAAAAAACwM/UNkLGdwUpMw/s800/taube%2520x%2520200.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0xNBLQvpGss/UJc5wBA75xI/AAAAAAAACwE/wSuKN6hhpxY/s800/taube%2520x%2520198.jpg)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on November 06, 2012, 09:04:46 AM
Des, with each project I keep saying, "This is your best yet".  Well, mate, this just may be your best yet.  Your skills just keep growing.  The wings look fantastic.  This project has been brilliantly engineered and executed.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on November 06, 2012, 09:47:27 AM
Superb! I can't believe just how quickly you've executed this project. With her graceful lines, I can see why she's your favourite aircraft type.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: rhallinger on November 06, 2012, 12:07:21 PM
Simply AMAZING Des!  :D  Your fine craftsmanship and thoughtful approach is an inspiration to us all. . .plus we get to enjoy your beautiful birds!  Thanks for sharing this work of art with us.

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Whiteknuckles on November 07, 2012, 02:37:33 PM
Wow Des, that really is a fantastic looking bird.
You have certainly done it justice so far and truly inspired us all!!

Andrew
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Adam on November 07, 2012, 11:20:36 PM
Great job Des.

Adam.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on November 08, 2012, 12:54:52 AM
What a great looking machine. Sounds like the strength is there for a long lasting model. I know this is a favourite of yours so you must be very proud of her.

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on November 09, 2012, 03:19:06 PM
what you shouldve done is make molds to cast in resin the parts as you scratched them. then you would have a 1/32 taube kit that i'm sure would sell like hotcakes. i'd sure pay $100 for the parts.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Dave W on November 12, 2012, 10:04:51 AM
Your Taube is a masterpiece Des. It is world class and an inspiration to us lesser souls. The fact you have scratchbuilt the model is that much more awe-inspiring. We who struggle with injection moulded kits salute you!

kind regards

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on November 13, 2012, 06:35:08 AM
I would like to thank everyone who has left very nice comments, it is much appreciated, and thanks also to all those who took the time to stop by and have a look.

Here are the photos of the completed model, the rigging was not difficult, just that there was a lot of it. It ended up being quite a large model but it fits in well with my other WW1 models. I hope you have enjoyed this build log as much as I have enjoyed presenting it.

Des.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Qs7vooAIBwo/UKFZ_6-XVSI/AAAAAAAAC3Y/Y4u6Z7ntE0k/s800/taube%2520x%2520201.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-26cNelV-pcY/UKFaGV_uaDI/AAAAAAAAC3g/_mMgjDEos1s/s800/taube%2520x%2520207.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mkfE1BsyN5Q/UKFZ0copvyI/AAAAAAAAC2U/4SclRRPcPgM/s800/taube%2520x%2520202.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MFgDySAxgBA/UKFZ0fNOwyI/AAAAAAAAC2Q/X1heMh3c16k/s800/taube%2520x%2520203.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_m-Kc86oJcI/UKFZ0RxNL9I/AAAAAAAAC2Y/O0_t-0y30yQ/s800/taube%2520x%2520204.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OPf2GRFMBKo/UKFZ1kliJPI/AAAAAAAAC2c/NsyifSElt3s/s800/taube%2520x%2520205.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-b6nxsngtNO8/UKFZ2E6492I/AAAAAAAAC2k/UR06dv3_vuM/s800/taube%2520x%2520208.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Pc93OA42Teo/UKFZ2HNc88I/AAAAAAAAC2o/LViVWo7HGLw/s800/taube%2520x%2520209.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t3Aj3qjoj_E/UKFZ20cJUsI/AAAAAAAAC20/Z2aDRwZKfk4/s800/taube%2520x%2520210.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vJLQWoLWddE/UKFZ3o6c_wI/AAAAAAAAC28/U6OJNLm7DOM/s800/taube%2520x%2520211.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dV9zZxQzEOU/UKFaNZeWpOI/AAAAAAAAC3o/o9-qprboJwQ/s800/taube%2520x%2520206.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-i_qwASgrt8s/UKFZ3jdNPSI/AAAAAAAAC3A/jJbQvPescro/s800/taube%2520x%2520212.jpg)

And finally, a comparison shot with the Albatros just to give an indication of the size of this aeroplane.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3nJ0eJMJX7g/UKFi6xCCakI/AAAAAAAAC4A/8NzAXz2lVLE/s800/taube%2520x%2520213.jpg)



Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: IanB on November 13, 2012, 06:41:04 AM
Absolutely stunning Des, hats off! I will certainly be using this log as a guide when I come to do mine.
Thanks for posting it,

Ian
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Dave W on November 13, 2012, 06:53:33 AM
Des, The completed model only confirms my belief of it being a world class masterpiece.

You can be buoyed too by the knowledge this is a unique model, individually made by you and not a mass-produced kit, thus it is an even bigger inspiration to us all.

It deserves a home in a world class aviation museum as it represents aircraft modelling at its finest. Thank you for sharing the inspiration with us all.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: coyotemagic on November 13, 2012, 07:28:21 AM
Des, I must have spent at least the last 15 minutes just staring at each individual photo.  This has to be the greatest modeling accomplishment that I'm aware of.  I know how long you've wanted a Tuabe, mate, and now you've got one.  And it's scratch built.  The Taube has to be one of the most challenging models to build out of a kit and you scratch built one.  I'm in awe.  Congratulations, Des.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 13, 2012, 07:50:50 AM
Des,
 A masterpiece and no mistake  :o
Thanks for sharing your prodigious talent with us.

BVB  ;)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on November 13, 2012, 08:57:09 AM
what can i say that hasnt already been said , thank you.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Chris Johnson on November 13, 2012, 09:41:09 AM
Words fail me. This is an incredibly beautiful model Des. Your rigging and wire wheels are immaculate and they 'make' the model in my humble opinion. It should be displayed prominently in a museum.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: pepperman42 on November 13, 2012, 09:55:41 AM
Well done Des. Projects of this quality make this site a great value to anyone interested in WWI aviation and how to model it.

Steve
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: LindsayT on November 13, 2012, 11:38:40 AM
Now that must be satisfying! Congratulations on your achievement.

Lindsay
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: rhallinger on November 13, 2012, 12:00:35 PM
Ditto!  Now . . . what will The Master do for an encore?   ;)  Where does one go from the pinnacle?  The world is now your oyster, Des!

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: lcarroll on November 13, 2012, 12:35:21 PM
Des,
   I'm away for only 8 days and you are done...........with a quality of work I couldn't even approach given 1000 days! What an absolutely impressive and beautiful example of the modeller's art! I agree with the previous comment, MUSEUM and world class work tip to tail. Well done!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Dal Gavan on November 13, 2012, 05:06:48 PM
Des, all the superlatives have been used and I agree with them.

Beautiful work, mate.

Dal.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on November 13, 2012, 06:01:09 PM
Wow...

I'm speechless!!!

What's next Des?
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Jose Chaica on November 13, 2012, 07:54:51 PM
What's next Des?

I can see only one way to go... multiple engines aircraft!  :)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 14, 2012, 01:40:30 AM
Wow...

I'm speechless!!!

What's next Des?

A straight Jacket!  ;D

 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: GAJouette on November 14, 2012, 01:46:07 AM
   Des,
My old friend she's absolutely stunning and such an amazing beauty to behold. I'd happily refer to her as your latest Opus but I know full well after following your projects the next Opus will soon begin. So here's to another Opus in an ever growing line of Opus' . Congratulations my old friend and Well Done. What's the next project ?

Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on November 14, 2012, 06:30:24 AM
I would like to thank everyone for the very kind comments, they are much appreciated.

I will be taking a break from scratch building for a little while and getting back to kit building, the next one will be the new 1:32 scale Bristol M1c in resin, my first resin build. It will be about two weeks before I recieve the kit so it will be a good chance for me to clean up my work area plus catch up on some yard work.

I'm going through all my WW1 aircraft information and trying to decide which scratch build to do next, there are so many wonderful aircraft that are not availabe as a kit, so my choice is virtually endless. I might even go with Jose's idea and do a twin engine beast.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on November 14, 2012, 06:52:02 AM
Are you going to build the latest WNW releases?
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on November 14, 2012, 07:05:09 AM
My modeling philosophy is to build one model of each type, I have already built the Roden DH.2, the Battle Axe Eindecker and the Roden Sopwith Triplane, so I will wait to see what Wingnuts release next. As you know I only build 1:32 scale so my options are limited as far as kits go, that's why i was very excited to see the Alley Cat  Bristol M1c be released. I scratch built the Voisin III and the Jeannin Taube because I got a bit tired of waiting for manufacturers to produce a kit in 1:32 scale, there is a market out there for these two aircraft but for some reason the kit manufacturers are reluctant to make a move.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Whiteknuckles on November 14, 2012, 01:04:09 PM
Another beautiful bird from your hands Des, I wholeheartedly echo all the above comments on this build, superb!
With the quality of your work Des, you could start your own company with those two superlative scratchbuilds!!
I don't know why the AWM and other museums haven't knocked down your door for your services :D ;)

Andrew
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Vladimir Ziska on November 16, 2012, 03:19:48 AM
Des,

I have no words, your work is very, very, very superb. This is a gift from God. Perfect work and another great model.

Cheers,

Vladimir
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on November 17, 2012, 07:07:16 PM
Thank you Andrew and Vladimir, your kind words are very much appreciated.

I have been thinking about my next scratch build and I'm leaning towards a 1:32 scale Caudron GIII, quite a unique and unusual looking aeroplane but another one that is not available in 1:32 scale. I will do some more searching to see if I can find enough information to build a model, a good set of plans would be beneficial  ;) ;) ;)

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Jamo on November 17, 2012, 07:41:25 PM
Hi Des
It has been a real treat to watch your build in progress and appreciate your craftmanship. The finished model looks just like the real thing! I hope it will spur someone to produce a kit in 1/32 - I certainly couldn't do what you have done. Marvellous!
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Vladimir Ziska on November 20, 2012, 04:00:28 AM
Hi Des,

I have idea, Roland C.II or D.II or Hannover Cl.IIIa.

Cheers,

Vladimir
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: dirk on November 22, 2012, 04:47:40 PM
Hi Des,

congratulations to your finished Taube. This was the project that impresses me most during the last months and makes me feel that this forum is the ideal place for learning and sharing experiences. While havings seen the taube in Berlin I am really impressed about your skills. Great work on the tubing inside the nascelle,  the engine, cooler ... and especially on the rigging!!!

Cheers, Dirk
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: youngtiger1 on August 13, 2013, 04:28:26 PM
DES, it's been few days since I've been back here and I can see what I missed. You have done amazing job. I don't think I can ever build a complete kit from scratch like yourself and several others here. Only thing I can hope for is WnW or another party to build it into a 1/32 kit because it's awesome flying machine. I can see it being a center piece of your collection. Thanks foe sharing it.  ;)

Mike
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Juan on February 02, 2017, 12:39:29 PM
Beautiful build, we probably owe it to Des for the new WNW announcement  ;).  All kidding aside, incredible modeling Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on February 02, 2017, 01:41:11 PM
Thanks Bo for bringing my scratch built Taube back to life, incredible to think that I did this way back in 2012, I am so pleased to see Wingnuts are following suit by producing a kit of this amazing aeroplane.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: KiwiZac on February 04, 2017, 12:36:32 PM
Hear hear, Bo. Awesome work Des. I hope you tackle the WNW kit - it'd be great to see the two together.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Borsos on February 04, 2017, 05:34:33 PM
Wow, this is definitely a wonderful model of this bird. Congratulations, even if they arrive 5 years after finishing it ..
Borsos
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Monty on February 14, 2017, 04:00:27 AM
Wow Des! I didn't know about this build... simply superb and a magnificent result! Well done! Marc
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Des on February 14, 2017, 06:17:52 AM
My many thanks to Juan, KiwiZac, Borsos and Monty for your much appreciated comments.

Des.
Title: Re: Jeannin Taube - 1:32 scale
Post by: Dirigible-Al on March 25, 2017, 04:13:39 AM
Hi Des
Any Taube build is worthy of praise in my opinion. I agree with Krow113 about setting the bar on this one though. Yet another masterpiece in your enviable collection.
Alan.