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WW1 Armour, Artillery, Vehicles, Ships => WW1 Armour, Artillery, Vehicles, dioramas, associated figures and Ships => Topic started by: Steven Robson on January 20, 2016, 05:22:50 PM
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WIP
Reckon I'll give this one a go. Garford-Putilov 1917 Russian armoured car.
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/Putilov-Garford-1915-russia_zpsviyryqte.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/Putilov-Garford-1915-russia_zpsviyryqte.jpg.html)
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/DSC00017_zpsbv32hvah.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/DSC00017_zpsbv32hvah.jpg.html)
This is an Armo kit (Jadar Models) in 1/35 scale from Poland.
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/DSC00018_zpsjtywtay7.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/DSC00018_zpsjtywtay7.jpg.html)
Oh, there's also two sheets of photo etch.
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/Garford-Putilov_armored_car_1918_zps8qgqunzl.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/Garford-Putilov_armored_car_1918_zps8qgqunzl.jpg.html)
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Did 'Lenny Peters' designed that lump of discombobulated machine?
Good luck old sprout!
vB ;)
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Did 'Lenny Peters' designed that lump of discombobulated machine?
Good luck old sprout!
vB ;)
I don't know who designed the kit Nobby, I do know it played a significant role in the Russian Revolution in St Petersburg 1917. The kit will be a great challenge. The upper parts are solid resin and very heavy, I'll have to re-enforce the suspension.
This kit will respond well to Uncle Otto's sandblasting at about 70psi with the aluminium oxide.
It's so ugly only it's mother could love it. :)
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Good luck Steven, what a most unusual vehicle you are attempting to build, but I will be following along closely as I really like the weird and unusual :)
Des.
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I'm not so sure that "car" is quite the right word - "small bus" would seem more appropriate!
Ian
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I'm not so sure that "car" is quite the right word - "small bus" would seem more appropriate!
Ian
Yes, Uncle Ian, it's a bus!
a very ugly bus and
the sort of bus that get's it's own way. :)
I have a few photos of the ugly bus, hope my Photobucket stops playing-up. The chassis is from an American Garford Truck, Imperial Russia bought a few from the Dough Boys and sent them to the Putilov factory for conversions. So, yes, armoured car is a little misleading. I'll share the photos soon.
Cheers
Fat Otto
[photo removed by Otto]
Fat Otto celebrating the start of a new kit.
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Thanks, man! My eyes burn! I can't un-see that! :o
George
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Thanks, man! My eyes burn! I can't un-see that! :o
George
Here's a nice little photo or two for you George.
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/680491_293546124098539_677977224_o_zpsc6lolr26.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/680491_293546124098539_677977224_o_zpsc6lolr26.jpg.html)
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/Putilov_Garford_1_zpssru8pdv5.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/Putilov_Garford_1_zpssru8pdv5.jpg.html)
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A bit better. By comparison to the last photo, that "bus" isn't so strange looking.
George
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If you go to landships.com and the landships forum you will find more information on this armored car and its use.
Also see the osprey books on Russian civil war armor.
While ugly looking this vehicle could and did have the ability to kill tanks.
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While ugly looking this vehicle could and did have the ability to kill tanks.
An ugly, tank killing, WW1, Russian, armoured car/bus..
it must be love, love, love
nothing more, nothing less
Garford-Putilov love is the best :)
James these hybrid Russian vehicles are fascinating. Oh how I'd love to get up close an personal with one of these little Putilovs (and suppress a few insurrectionists in the streets of St Petersburg). The stuff of modellers dreams.
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I must point out the Armored car units in the Petrograd area went over to the revolutionaries rather quickly during the Feb/mar 1917 revolution.
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In looking through the osprey book on Red Russian Civil war armor. 2 of the above armored cars are in the Red army:
Cokov
II Falcon II saw service on the Petrograd front 1918-19 before engaging the Poles in 1920 as part of the 1st armored car detachment
Ypavell Uralets fought on the Polish front until being captured in 1920
I hope this is some use
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In looking through the osprey book on Red Russian Civil war armor. 2 of the above armored cars are in the Red army:
Cokov
II Falcon II saw service on the Petrograd front 1918-19 before engaging the Poles in 1920 as part of the 1st armored car detachment
Ypavell Uralets fought on the Polish front until being captured in 1920
I hope this is some use
Thanks James, yes, that's very useful information. I'm still preparing the parts for this model and it's slowly getting there. I expect the main components will come together fairly quickly once I get some days off. I like the way the period photos and your information combine to make this historical vehicle come alive.
My next big job is to hollow out a couple of the bigger blocks of solid resin to decrease the weight.
Cheers
Steven
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I'm looking forward to seeing your first build photos on this project Steven, it is a really interesting subject.
Des.
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Glad to be of help. one thing you might want to add to any Red Army dioramas is a Commissar figure wearing a leather coat and armed with a mauser C96 pistol. Chekists also ran around in leather coats. Besides making you look tough it helped that lice didn't live in them like wool coats.
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(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/jp.DSC00066%204_zpssz2bhkb6.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/jp.DSC00066%204_zpssz2bhkb6.jpg.html)
Some small progress on the people's-tank-eating-comrade-truck and still removing the lice from this kit.
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/jp.DSC00066%201%201_zpsramjeu51.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/jp.DSC00066%201%201_zpsramjeu51.jpg.html)
Here's a close-up of the R) side machine gun thingo. I think it's called a machine gun turret but don't quote me on this. I'm going to do some root canal work on this part of the kit and drill them out with dental tools.
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This is the Comrade Stalin Tool
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/DSC00082_zpsyiopwhzw.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/DSC00082_zpsyiopwhzw.jpg.html)
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/DSC00074_zpspkegnemb.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/DSC00074_zpspkegnemb.jpg.html)
Resistance is futile. The Comrade Stalin Tool is my new best friend; no model, piece of cheese, solid block of concrete and or nasty little prostate gland can resist the Comrade Stalin Tool.
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/DSC00068_zpsi5iddsu3.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Garford-Putilov%20Armoured%20Car%201917/DSC00068_zpsi5iddsu3.jpg.html)
I have to take the top off the middle compartment to get to the machine gun turrets for a re-build. While I was there, I decided that I didn't like (all of) the rivets. These will have to be re-done for the whole kit after it's been re-skinned with brass plate. Removal of the rivets and surface details are done with a different tool but I can't show you this one.
you're such a rivet counter
Oh, and the chassis is all buckled and screwed-up so I'm going to cut that bit off and re-build it. The model can then come together as two sub assemblies.
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"The Comrade Stalin Tool is my new best friend; no model, piece of cheese, solid block of concrete and or nasty little prostate gland can resist the Comrade Stalin Tool."
Gee Steven.
That does look painfull! ;D But so was stalin! >:(
And you are removing all the rivits and rebuilding the chassis!
And re-skin!
Well, If I had any doubts I don't now. You are certifiable! ;D
But very much looking forward to following your progress.
I reckon this is going to be a bit a lot special. 8)
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Thanks Mr boogie-woogie :)
I'm fond of the People's Truck. It's a difficult build for me; I reckon she'll clean-up with a little love and some make-up. Oh, and a re-build on the rear gun turret, it's wrong.
Ivan tells me that it's a very old and difficult kit. I'm hoping to get some more information from him soon.
Cheers Otto