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Title: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: KrzysiekK on December 27, 2015, 01:19:26 AM: Hello,

I have decided to go with the flow and take last Karaya kit from my stash. For the long time I wanted to do some plane with hexagonal KuK’s camouflage and bought Karaya Aviatik Berg D.II with such a intention but the technique of laying them on the scale replica always gave me the headache. More I tried to read and get the knowledge of the pattern and colors more reluctant I became. Then I said stop, Let us do it! So here comes new story
First the engine. Karaya’s Austro-Daimler is quite good but some improvements were necessary. Those resin springs imitations were not the good idea, so decided to do them on my own.

(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_1.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_2.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_3.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_4.JPG)
regards
K
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: Des on December 27, 2015, 07:04:31 AM: Great to see that you have made a start with this kit, I will be following along with interest.

Des.
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: radio on December 27, 2015, 10:42:01 PM: Great as ever your beginning K.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: RAGIII on December 28, 2015, 02:45:03 AM: Great start on the engine improvements! I am looking forward to following this one.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: KrzysiekK on December 30, 2015, 02:18:37 AM: ok. The engine is almost done and ready for final painting
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_7.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_9.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_17.JPG)
regards
K
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: Des on December 30, 2015, 07:50:12 AM: A very attractive looking engine K.

Des.
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: KrzysiekK on December 30, 2015, 10:50:55 PM: Thanks Des,
Some additional work on the prop. This time I have used the aquarelle coloured pencils
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_11.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_12.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_13.JPG)
and after first oil layer
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_14.JPG)
I am quite close to final work before fuselage closure
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_15.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_16.JPG)
regards
K
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: RAGIII on December 30, 2015, 11:47:06 PM: Very nicely done interior work and prop! Also thanks for showing both sides of the prop, if enough of you continue to do so I may yet get a feeling for what the overall pattern looks like ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: radio on December 31, 2015, 03:30:13 AM: Very beautiful work and painting.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: KrzysiekK on January 03, 2016, 12:14:18 AM: Welcome in 2016!
I have done control panel, which was done on sandwich method :D
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_19.JPG)
and before the final join
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_20.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_21.JPG)
I have also started to work on the lower wings part, which should be left in natural canvas color
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_18.JPG)
regards
K
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: Des on January 03, 2016, 07:00:50 AM: Great work on the propeller and the instrument panel K, and the interior is looking really good, well done so far.

Des.
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: radio on January 03, 2016, 07:36:44 AM: Outstanding progress K.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: PrzemoL on January 04, 2016, 07:50:55 PM: Great to see you working on another interesting model. Fine start.
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: xmald on January 09, 2016, 06:42:04 AM: Great job Krzysiek! Your production rate lately is trully stunning ;)
Everything apart the prop looks great! The latter isn`t your best one I think.
Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: coyotemagic on January 09, 2016, 07:22:36 AM: Gorgeous project, K! Everything from the engine to the cockpit to the wings is truly brilliant. Love the subject, too!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: dr 1 ace on January 09, 2016, 07:39:52 AM: Eagerly await more pics !

Ed
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: Alexis on January 09, 2016, 11:13:11 AM: Quote from: dr 1 ace on January 09, 2016, 07:39:52 AM
Eagerly await more pics !

Ed

Second this ..

Terri
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: RAGIII on January 10, 2016, 12:24:48 AM: Quote from: coyotemagic on January 09, 2016, 07:22:36 AM
Gorgeous project, K! Everything from the engine to the cockpit to the wings is truly brilliant. Love the subject, too!
Cheers,
Bud

Got to agree with my Amigo! Terrific work to date in all regards!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: KrzysiekK on January 10, 2016, 04:58:49 AM: Thanks for being here!
Now the most interesting part: hexagons and the methodology of applying.
To sum up that topic is rather unsolved and unveiled, so I will focus on simplifying the apply as long as possible in terms of pattern and color used.
First approach: decals. Only one, which I know are produced by PrintScale and looks rather pale, but who knows how did they look like After first trial it seems they are useless and react just like Roden’s ones. See the picture. So: mission was not accomplished
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_25.JPG)
Second approach: masks. Not available on the market so I had to order. Waiting for delivery I have prepared 2 base colors, on which the hexagons will be applied
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_23.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_24.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_26.JPG)
regards
K
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on January 11, 2016, 07:34:04 AM: i have enjoyed your build so far. below i have a link to louis's berg build. i followed this build as it happened. he did extensive study on the colors and mixed paint and used frisket film masks. it is an aviatik d.1 though. i dont remember seeing any aviatik d.11 with hex camo, which plane will you model?

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal9/8401-8500/gal8429-Aviatik-Berg-D1-Huberlu/00.shtm

http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35666

http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35183

also doug baumans scratch built 1/36 scale berg d.1:
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50548
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: KrzysiekK on January 11, 2016, 05:12:57 PM: Hello,

Thanks for the links I have been looking into that build already.
I am going to do 39.08 and you can see fuselage hex on wings palette: http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww1/f/176/175/4#34
I assume the draft was based on Japo.
BTW. I have altered 'light grey" base as added to much blue color. Now it is the mixture of white, little black and just small drop of azul blue. Pics soon
regards
K
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: RAGIII on January 11, 2016, 10:54:15 PM: Excellent progress. I am looking forward to seeing you use the masks!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: Des on January 12, 2016, 06:42:02 AM: This build is taking shape nicely and I look forward to seeing your next updates.

Des.
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: radio on January 12, 2016, 06:46:28 AM: Very beautiful painting.
Cherrs
Martin
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: KrzysiekK on January 18, 2016, 05:44:18 PM: Hello,
Finally masks were received so started to implement first hexagons. Used Vallejo French Blue with just little bit of red
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_27.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_28.JPG)
regards
K
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: RAGIII on January 19, 2016, 12:29:31 AM: Looks as though the masks are working out quite nicely!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: KrzysiekK on January 19, 2016, 07:01:08 AM: Hello,
..still doing that tedious work.
In comparison with Japo I can see now that my lighter hex should rather go just behind the pilot’s seat. I am half hex ahead of that line..well seems to be some kind of mistake with criteria taken, but I am not going to finish PhD in hex camo:), so keep on doing my work.
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_29.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_30.JPG)
regards
K
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: GAJouette on January 19, 2016, 12:43:14 PM: Krzysiek,
Wow that's going to be one bright and colorful kite my old friend. I've sun shades ready for the next outstanding update. Well Done!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: Des on January 19, 2016, 01:00:00 PM: You are doing a brilliant job with the hexagon painting and like what Gregory said, she is going to one very colourful bird.

Des.
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: RAGIII on January 19, 2016, 08:26:00 PM: You are making great progress and the Hex is turning out terrific.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: dragonlanceHR on January 19, 2016, 10:30:00 PM: Quote from: KrzysiekK on January 19, 2016, 07:01:08 AM

In comparison with Japo I can see now that my lighter hex should rather go just behind the pilot’s seat. I am half hex ahead of that line..well seems to be some kind of mistake with criteria taken, but I am not going to finish PhD in hex camo:)
K

That's because the Karaya kit has the cockpit 3-4 mm too far back, compared to all available drawings.

Vedran
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: KrzysiekK on January 25, 2016, 06:10:20 PM: Quote from: dragonlanceHR on January 19, 2016, 10:30:00 PM
That's because the Karaya kit has the cockpit 3-4 mm too far back, compared to all available drawings.

Vedran
Yes, that must be the reason.
There are slight spaces between hex colours due to improper mask implementation, but those are easy to fix
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_31.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_34.JPG)
Still do not have slightest idea how to finish the top of the fuselage...but for sure I must keep symmetry at least
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_35.JPG)
regards
K
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: RAGIII on January 26, 2016, 12:06:46 AM: Really looking great! I am sure you will work out the upper fuselage although it seems to me you already have?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: coyotemagic on January 26, 2016, 05:37:54 AM: Lovely!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: Alexis on January 26, 2016, 11:53:48 AM: Looking very sharp so far :)

Terri
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: KrzysiekK on February 06, 2016, 02:49:35 AM: Hi,

I just started harder part of painting- upper wings as here comes 4 colours for lighter scheme of camouflage. I have used K.u.K Luftfahrtruppe Tarnstoff 1917-1918 by Dr. Glen K. Merrill as the main source for the pattern. Unfortunately I have not prepared first base colour in right tone so had significant problems with achieving the acceptable level of work done.

(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_36.JPG)

regards
K
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: radio on February 07, 2016, 04:29:44 AM: Outstanding painting K.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: RAGIII on February 07, 2016, 04:55:20 AM: Excellent results to date! I admire your masking skills and the patience you have to actually do this!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: Des on February 07, 2016, 06:15:52 AM: Superb painting and masking skills.

Des.
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: KrzysiekK on February 08, 2016, 04:55:21 AM: Hi,

Thanks but the picture above depicts fixing of unwanted colour spaces between hexs. For the first approach I use pattern consisting of 6x6 hexs, later once needed I use 1 hex pattern for corrections.
Uhhh…work is almost done
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_37.JPG)
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_38.JPG)
regards
K
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: slateman on February 09, 2016, 02:35:23 PM: Very nicely done. Which masks did you use for the lozenge/hexagons?
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: xmald on February 11, 2016, 06:28:35 PM: Splendid job Krzysiek! IT looks extremely good and I think it wasn't the easiest one to paint. Seems like one of the most aesthetically pleasing camouflages ever. those K.u.k. guys had a sense for such things; take Brumowski's camo as an example - looks like pyjamas; ))) that's one of the reasons why the k.u.k.aircrafts are so interesting for the modelling purposes.
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: Borsos on February 11, 2016, 09:16:10 PM: incredible work! Awesome!
I never cared about k. u. k. airplanes. But seeing your progress I definitely have to rethink that...
Best wishes
Borsos
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: RAGIII on February 12, 2016, 12:55:47 AM: This continues to be an outstanding masking and painting job! Beautiful results!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: Des on February 12, 2016, 06:51:09 AM: No other word but brilliant describes what you have achieved, well done.

Des.
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: KrzysiekK on February 14, 2016, 08:14:51 AM: Hi,

Little progress with final assembly and work on the tail
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_39.JPG)
BTW.It looks like V1 german rocket, isn't it:)?
(http://rebe83.waw.pl/pub/krzysiek/warsztat/AviatikBergDII/ABDII_40.JPG)
regards
K
Title: Re: Aviatik Berg D.II - Karaya/1:48 (39.08)
Post by: Des on February 14, 2016, 08:30:33 AM: This is certainly looking spectacular K, looking forward to more updates.

Des.