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Title: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 03, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
Imperial Russian armoured cars from YellowHouseModels.  A boutique WW1 model company with a small range of top quality resin kits from Ivan.  This is the Renault-Mgebrov 1915.


(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/Mgebrov-Renault_zpsrk3ixvtf.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/Mgebrov-Renault_zpsrk3ixvtf.jpg.html)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0390_zpsbnmpixw2.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0390_zpsbnmpixw2.jpg.html)


Here's my current work in progress, I have to add the little door handles next.

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0534_zps22nprbvy.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0534_zps22nprbvy.jpg.html)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0532_zpst1mtupuz.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0532_zpst1mtupuz.jpg.html)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0539_zps6uz7r1rl.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0539_zps6uz7r1rl.jpg.html)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0524_zpsq8pqqfxp.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0524_zpsq8pqqfxp.jpg.html)


And I also have the rest of Ivan's current cars in my stash:

-  Russo-Balt type C 1914
-  Fiat Omsky 1919 (twin gun)
-  Renault-Mgebrov 1915 (one turret)
- Fiat Omsky 1919 (one gun)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0587_zpsrrxzykxl.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0587_zpsrrxzykxl.jpg.html)

Would you like to see my collection (x4) of Russian artillery 1902?  These are great little kits and priced to sell, also sent from the Ukraine.
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 03, 2015, 02:38:12 PM
Very cool, and unusual, Steven!

Yes, please, show us your collection of early weird stuff! ;D

George

Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 03, 2015, 03:08:28 PM
Here you go George

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0485_zpsmkio3zu2.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0485_zpsmkio3zu2.jpg.html)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0486_zpsecglzsq4.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0486_zpsecglzsq4.jpg.html)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0487_zpsjgxpov6k.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0487_zpsjgxpov6k.jpg.html)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0488_zpslrq3sgwo.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0488_zpslrq3sgwo.jpg.html)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0489_zpszzrbp9gp.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0489_zpszzrbp9gp.jpg.html)

and don't forget that a couple of the new IBG (Poland) kits are also WW1.

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0494_zpsxzz2epqc.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0494_zpsxzz2epqc.jpg.html)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0493_zpsdbxo27w2.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0493_zpsdbxo27w2.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 03, 2015, 03:13:53 PM
If you're not careful, Steven, you're going to end up making a shed load of wooden spokes with thin metal tires (or tyres ;) ).  You'll have to change your forum avatar!

George
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 03, 2015, 03:24:25 PM
If you're not careful, Steven, you're going to end up making a shed load of wooden spokes with thin metal tires (or tyres ;) ).  You'll have to change your forum avatar!

George

George, I'll go for making a shed load of models from my stash to start with :).  I don't have time today but if you look in the Wiener Modellbau site you'll find submarines, a torpedo boat 1890's and a brand new WW1 Austro-Hungarian Morser kit.  When the morser arrives I might post the photos of my WW1 WMM collection.

I'm also going to build this one..

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Rolly%20Royce%20Armoured%20Car%201914/IMGP0556_zpsgdntofat.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Rolly%20Royce%20Armoured%20Car%201914/IMGP0556_zpsgdntofat.jpg.html)

Large pile of green Tommy stuff for the..

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Rolly%20Royce%20Armoured%20Car%201914/IMGP0555_zpsorvsi4ho.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Rolly%20Royce%20Armoured%20Car%201914/IMGP0555_zpsorvsi4ho.jpg.html)

Rolls Royce Armoured Car 1914 pattern.  I've also got the Resicast kit in 1/35 scale for this car.

Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: uncletony on December 03, 2015, 03:25:53 PM
Nice to see you about Otto... excellent work on the wheeled doorstop there...  8)
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 03, 2015, 03:37:30 PM
Nice to see you about Otto... excellent work on the wheeled doorstop there...  8)

Thanks Bo  :)
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 03, 2015, 03:57:09 PM
Des has really opened the flood gates to a whole new craziness. I hope he knows what he's gotten us into. No wings in site! ;D
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 03, 2015, 05:11:14 PM
Des has really opened the flood gates to a whole new craziness. I hope he knows what he's gotten us into. No wings in site! ;D

Hey George guess what I just found on the net while the Dough Boys are sleeping........:)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Rolly%20Royce%20Armoured%20Car%201914/12291155_408359089372646_5556626974878542591_o_zpsbfeogmr4.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Rolly%20Royce%20Armoured%20Car%201914/12291155_408359089372646_5556626974878542591_o_zpsbfeogmr4.jpg.html)

The little silhouette on the left represents Dave's morser, so Bertha is a great big box of fun.  :o
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: bobs_buckles on December 03, 2015, 05:14:24 PM
Lovely work, Steven.

Von B
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 03, 2015, 05:25:32 PM
I have the Mörser, which looks tiny now! I think I'll wait to build the Mörser before I consider this Big Bertha.

George
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Des on December 03, 2015, 05:47:12 PM
Love your collection Steven, appears you are really getting into WW1 armour and artillery. I'm very excited about Big Bertha, I will have to track it down and order one.

Des.
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 03, 2015, 07:52:45 PM
Love your collection Steven, appears you are really getting into WW1 armour and artillery. I'm very excited about Big Bertha, I will have to track it down and order one.

Des.

Hey George, yes, Big Bertha makes the original morser look small.

Thanks Nobby :)

Des if you want a Big Bertha you'll have to go the pre-order pathway.  I just put a pre-order into BNA models in Oz that way you avoid the Forex issues and keep the shipping costs down.  My Bertha cost a couple of bucks under $100 including the shipping.  I'd expect delivery mid Jan 2016, it's a bit hard to tell.  I've got a few of these Takom kits, they're lovely quality and priced correctly.  It's a rare thing to find quality products at a sensible price. 

I've also got some Armo WW1 armoured cars but haven't photographed them yet.   
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: RAGIII on December 03, 2015, 09:18:09 PM
That is quite a Stash to say the least! Lovely work on the Armored car! Looking terrific!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: GAJouette on December 04, 2015, 03:16:51 PM
 Steve,
Fantastic collection of Armored Cars and Artillery my old friend. The Renault-Mgebrov is new to me,did the French also use the same vehicle? Not a clue as to why but I've developed a thing for Renault vehicles. Wouldn't mine building more of them.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 04, 2015, 05:50:04 PM
Steve,
Fantastic collection of Armored Cars and Artillery my old friend. The Renault-Mgebrov is new to me,did the French also use the same vehicle? Not a clue as to why but I've developed a thing for Renault vehicles. Wouldn't mine building more of them.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette

Hi Gregory

Thanks for liking my little Renault-Mgebrov armoured car model.  I love early armoured cars, they are a very interesting subject.

Yes please, build, build, build more Renaults :)

Firstly, much of what the Russians got up to in both the first and second world wars is not well understood in the west.  There is a significant language barrier here before we even start to untangle the historical records.  Additionally, lets not forget that most of us are also Cold War babies, that is to say, post 1945 our Russian buddies didn’t really get much good press in the mainstream media and this is still the case today.  So there’s a lot of documentation in the East that has not really seen the light of day because of complex, politico-historical reasons.
 
The main thrust of the story with these early armoured cars is…..(and you can also find this in the tank forums)..

Tsarist Russia at the turn of the Twentieth Century was a very under-developed country and she did not have a sophisticated automotive industry.  Uncle Nicolas went on a pre-conflict buying spree and purchased a lot of armoured cars, including regular car and light truck chassis from his European neighbours ( the French, British & Italians).  He also got some Ford light trucks from the Yanks.  A Russian officer (surname Mgebrov) was tasked with turning the Renault 1914 chassis into an armoured car.

Mgebrov’s great insight was to slope the armour on the front of the car and the improved ballistic properties enabled a decrease in the thickness of the armoured steel plate.  Decreasing the overall weight of the car improved its performance and an AFV legend was born.  This makes the Renault-Mgeborv armoured car historically significant.  Modellers who also love the early Russian tanks (circa WW2) may recognise the significance of sloped armour on the front of the legendary T-34 tank and make a connection back to the development of the Renault-Mgebrov.

If you’re interested in this subject, there’s a lovely book by James Kinnear (2000) Russian Armored Cars 1930-2000, Darlington Publications, Maryland.  The introduction of this book describes the development of these early Russian AFVs.

They were hybrid vehicles, Russian innovations applied to imported car and truck chassis.

Also, don’t forget, Ivan from Yellow House Models, he's a lovely bloke with a young family.  Ivan's is a small, cottage industry, modelling concern and most worthy of support.  Ivan has a wealth of knowledge in this area and he is easily found with a quick Google or Facebook search.  I reckon he won’t mind if I include a couple of inspirational photos for the WW1 forum modellers.

The photo of the Russo-Balt armoured car is from a model made by Alexandar Rogozin and they don’t get much better than that.

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/WW1%20Artillery/U_1KD6-BLW4_zpsxmgcizwu.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/WW1%20Artillery/U_1KD6-BLW4_zpsxmgcizwu.jpg.html)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/WW1%20Artillery/12144892_1663296867248007_2867266097782864660_n_zpsadx4huuy.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/WW1%20Artillery/12144892_1663296867248007_2867266097782864660_n_zpsadx4huuy.jpg.html)

This is lovely weathering on the canon.
I tried to have a conversation about weathering models with this young fellow but he just wasn't interested
:)


(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/WW1%20Artillery/12088539_1663297090581318_4786564408495356787_n_zpsnq5slizl.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/WW1%20Artillery/12088539_1663297090581318_4786564408495356787_n_zpsnq5slizl.jpg.html)

That's BS about the conversation, I got the photos off FB from a group of European re-enactors.
You have to admire dedication like this.



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It that shit on my nice new uniform!

This is a very interesting photo, please note: the lovely green paint job on this reproduction car and the chains on the wheels to cope with a very wet and muddy field.  I have some idiosyncratic ideas about weathering armoured vehicles but I'm still an armoured vehicle modelling virgin, so if you won't respect me in the morning, I just can't kiss and tell my new weathering technique at this stage.

Cheers Big Ears
Otto from Blotto
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 04, 2015, 06:02:09 PM
Renault! Yes, that is what I'm going to build for the French GB. A Renault FT-17 Light Tank. A very innovative company in its day. :)

George
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 04, 2015, 06:24:05 PM
Renault! Yes, that is what I'm going to build for the French GB. A Renault FT-17 Light Tank. A very innovative company in its day. :)

George

Now that's a beautiful tank George.  Both the Meng and Takom kits are excellent for the FT-17; both the Russians and Japanese used this tank as well.  It says a lot about the underlying design characteristics of the vehicle when a tank like the FT-17 was used in both world wars.

Viva George's FT-17
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Des on December 04, 2015, 06:40:41 PM
I pre-ordered the Takom Big Bertha today Steven, as you said it was a few dollars short of $100AUD including shipping, but being quite a hefty model the shipping was only $10. I have been looking forward to the release of this model for some time so hopefully by mid January I will have one.

Des.
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 04, 2015, 06:47:54 PM
I pre-ordered the Takom Big Bertha today Steven, as you said it was a few dollars short of $100AUD including shipping, but being quite a hefty model the shipping was only $10. I have been looking forward to the release of this model for some time so hopefully by mid January I will have one.

Des.

That's great news Des.

I reckon strike while the iron's hot.  You'll do a magnificent build log on Big Bertha?
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 09, 2015, 10:30:22 AM
I'm calling this one finished.

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/DSC00006_zpspsvkmiks.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/DSC00006_zpspsvkmiks.jpg.html)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/DSC00007_zps1dkwcook.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/DSC00007_zps1dkwcook.jpg.html)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/DSC00008_zpsdexzuqyo.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/DSC00008_zpsdexzuqyo.jpg.html)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/DSC00009_zpsisym82iy.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/DSC00009_zpsisym82iy.jpg.html)

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(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/DSC00011_zpshad3ld2i.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/DSC00011_zpshad3ld2i.jpg.html)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/DSC00012_zpsbw7kppdb.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/DSC00012_zpsbw7kppdb.jpg.html)











Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 09, 2015, 10:54:14 AM
Looks great, Steven! I'm sure it's nice to build something that goes together so quickly! :)

George
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: uncletony on December 09, 2015, 12:47:57 PM
Really like the paintwork Steven. Well done.
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 09, 2015, 02:00:13 PM
Really like the paintwork Steven. Well done.

Thanks George and Bo!

I keep forgetting to document finishes from one model to the next.  It's a bit naughty really because sometimes I can't remember how to do some stuff.

This Renault-Mgebrov is Fat Otto's first WW1 armour build and his paint job, sort-of, followed the following sequence:

- spray all parts, matt black enamel, one thin undercoat, burnish the painted surfaces with a square brush by rubbing-in Conte a Paris powder (black).  I do this because I can't paint for shit and the Conte burnishing smooths down a furry paint job.

- next, hand paint floor polish onto all surfaces to fix the Conte and protect the enamel paint (use lovely new brushes for floor polish, no rough stuff here & no dust bunnies)

- now drink beer (it's hot)

- next spray matt forest green paint, one coat, burnish when cured with some green Conte rubbed-in (slightly different green powder for mottling is good).

Fat Otto's Tip: mix different Conte powders to achieve a colour tone shift, one up and one down from your base coat

- hand paint floor polish again to fix the green Conte and protect the surface

- don't drink beer during the next step

- now SAND BLAST the lovely green surface.  This is my most high risk and exciting weathering technique for WW1 modelling. It's very easy to stuff things up at this stage especially if you cut too far into the painted layers

- now drink more beer (regardless of the blasted results) any overdone blasting is easily fixed with a little green touch-up spray and some more Conte (now you're mottling with Otto on the Australian team :) )

- next is to spray a matt varnish (Testors) over all surfaces, let this cure and..

- finish with a hand painted floor polish.

In summary:  hand painted floor polish over a sprayed matt varnish gives our models a lovely semi-gloss finish.  You can now work some details (additional finishes) into this semi-gloss presentation by burnishing some surfaces up (for gloss) or gently down for matt with a (dry) 1200 Carbide paper.  Fatso reckons this approach will give your model an overall mottled, weathered, semi-gloss finish with a few additional (gloss & matt) highlights ready for the photo shoot.

     
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Des on December 09, 2015, 02:15:44 PM
An excellent looking model Steven, and as others have said the paint work is superb.

Des.
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 09, 2015, 02:23:40 PM
I can figure out the beer part, but sandblasting? Where do you get that kind or setup for a scale model?

George
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 09, 2015, 02:52:06 PM
I can figure out the beer part, but sandblasting? Where do you get that kind or setup for a scale model?

George

Hmmmm, George, do you really, really promise to keep a secret?
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 09, 2015, 04:06:43 PM
Naw, I can't be trusted... I'll just take my kit to the beach on a windy day.

Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 09, 2015, 05:38:44 PM
Naw, I can't be trusted... I'll just take my kit to the beach on a windy day.

Hey George!

Here's a photo of you and me having an intimate cyber-moment as I gently blow your L) ear :) with a Badger Mini-Sandblaster

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0593_zpspyhqovua.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0593_zpspyhqovua.jpg.html)

You need a thing with a what's-it to make it work properly, hmmm, that would be a compressor with a regulator a deft touch and a great big bag of Aluminium Oxide.  I've also used regular baking soda with good effect.

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Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: bobs_buckles on December 09, 2015, 05:39:57 PM
Lovely Rubbery wheels, Van Otto  ;)
The paint has a glowing depth that I find rather nice. Well done ;-)

Come join my wee group on FB. We go by the name The WingNutters. Link is in my siggy below.
Bring your PA with you, Otto  ;D

Von NutJob
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 09, 2015, 07:43:04 PM
Thanks for the info, Steven, but I'm a little creeped out! :o ;D

George
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Gisbod on December 09, 2015, 07:48:12 PM
Ooh lovely green!

I can't see the sand blasting making any mess - do you do it at the kitchen table?

Guy
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 09, 2015, 08:46:46 PM
Sandblasting is best achieved on the drive way with all the safety goggles and respirator stuff in situ.

Don't try this at home without parental supervision; if you're heavy handed with the Badger all your hard earned paint will strip off.

 
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: boggie on December 09, 2015, 09:37:27 PM
Hi Otto 
Long time no fun speak  ;D. Thanks for your tutorial on the sandblasting. I'm gunna try it. 
I also really like your green thingy! Pretty sure I've seen it's relatives in my garden! (smirk, hahaha)
Although it's a bit against my principles to agree with Bob, I miss your slinky PA too!   ;)

cheers, regards and best Christmas greetings.  :)
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: uncletony on December 09, 2015, 11:48:28 PM
Please do heed Uncle Otto's safety warnings if you do try this.  You do not want to breath the abrasive! (Or the crap it takes off). I've done a lot of bead blasting, I've got a blasting cabinet out in the shop... never thought of blasting my models though!
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: bobs_buckles on December 10, 2015, 01:14:48 AM
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Although it's a bit against my principles to agree with Bob, I miss your slinky PA too!   

I hate stepping on principles. Please let me know where I'm going wrong so I can make adjustments to my life accordingly.

vB
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Des on December 10, 2015, 06:07:41 AM
Like Bo, I have done a lot of sand blasting in the past when I restored vintage motorcycles, but I think the gun I have would blow the model to bits instead of just chipping away at the paint  ???

Des.
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on December 12, 2015, 05:02:25 AM
The photo of the Renault-Mgebov was taken in Petrograd right after the Feb/Mar 1917 revolution some of the men are wearing armbands with CM on them indicating "City Militia" which replaced the regular police who fled during the revolution.
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: Steven Robson on December 12, 2015, 12:52:27 PM
The photo of the Renault-Mgebov was taken in Petrograd right after the Feb/Mar 1917 revolution some of the men are wearing armbands with CM on them indicating "City Militia" which replaced the regular police who fled during the revolution.

Ahhhh, that's great info on the photo James.  So this little armoured car had a part to play in the Russian revolution.  It would have projected an  intimidating presence on the streets with the two machine guns.  The car's so ugly, I think it's beautiful. :)

I'm on my motorbike every day for the commute to work, some days I wish I was travelling in a fully armed Renault-Mgebrov to deal with the traffic.   

Thanks for the info
Otto
Title: Re: Renault-Mgebrov Armoured Car 1915
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on December 15, 2015, 04:26:14 AM
glad to be of help from what little I know about this vehicle only 11 or 12 were built in the 1916-17 period. The Germans captured one in March 1918. The Megbrov-Renault did see some combat with both the Red and White armies during the Russian Civil war and the Red army retired it's last one in 1930. That's according my google searching . The Osprey books on Russian Civil war armor don't mention them at all. So it would seem they saw little use in this conflict. There is a book in Russian on Russian armored cars of the WW I period but it's in Russian only. There is also a book on German armored cars of the WW I period that is in German only. If I find more information I will post it here.