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WW1 Armour, Artillery, Vehicles, Ships => WW1 Armour, Artillery, Vehicles, dioramas, associated figures and Ships => Topic started by: Dave in Dubai on November 30, 2015, 02:30:27 AM
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A bit of a diversion from constructing WW1 "bird-cages".
This is the recently released Takom 21cm Mörser in 1/35 scale.
The paints were from the Mig Ammo set recommended in the paint chart and light weathering was applied with Mig pigments and washes.
There is some discussion over the accuracy of the dimensions particularly with regards to the tail of the gun on the "landships" forum. Note that they are now saying that the dimensions are accurate afterall, so top marks to Takom again.
At the end of the day, this was built mostly out of the box and just something a bit different.
Really would like to build another, the next one in the autumn colours of a surviving example in the Army Museum, Brussels.
Toodle-pip!
Dave :)
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Very nice! I can't wait to build mine, but I have to have some discipline and finish my current builds. :)
George
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Beautiful Dave, this is a very impressive model and one that I hope to build soon.
Des.
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She's beautiful Dave, great kit and stunning camo. I also love the Takom artillery kits, seeing yours finished like this is great inspiration.
Cheers
Otto
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Love it Dave, thanks for posting.
Warren
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Thanks for the comments chaps.
I didn't take too many construction photos, but here are a few to show the various stages.
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(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5ZQSelZBwtw/VlGMmXYC0-I/AAAAAAAAXss/HoijvQiHp0g/s2048-no/IMG_2410.JPG)
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Hope they are of some interest? :)
The only thing I wish Takom had done was if they could have made the wheel pads moveable....ie click on to the wheel rims.
Unfortunately they must be glued onto the wheels, but I suppose they could be drilled and pinned with thin brass wire if one really wanted to acheive this. When placed on display or in a diorama, it won't matter much in any case.
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Thanks for posting the in progress pics, Dave. They are very helpful. :)
George
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Thanks for the additional photos Dave.
Des.
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Nice one, Dave ;)
I like the look of that.
Cheers,
B
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Hey Dave!
Great build!
I have that too in my stash and I plan to start building early next year.
One question: how did you paint the thin black lines?
thank you for the info
ciao
Edo
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Dave,
Outstanding my old friend.Very impressive camouflage too. How did you do it?
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Hi Edo, and Gregory,
The Paintwork:
I deliberated over this paint scheme for a while purely because I wondered if I could paint the black lines!
In the end , I used a thin 000 brush, some matt black paint, thinned to the consistency of ink, and handpainted around the colour shapes. The colour shapes were painted freehand :, the green base airbrushed first, then the yellow and clay brown patches by brush.
It was slow work, and I could only do twenty minutes at a time. Don't try to do too much too quickly.
I tried to copy the paint chart supplied with the kit - the artwork has been done by Mig Jiminez of Mig Ammo.
His artwork looks great but the side elevations and top do not match up the colour shapes so you pretty much have to use a bit of artistic license to get everything to join up.
There are quite a few surviving Morsers around the world, if you take a look on google, it will show up a lot of images with different paint finishes.
The gun in Brussels is in it's original paint, although somewhat blackened. There are also images of this morser on the net if you do a search.
Lastly, the small support brackets , parts c21, and c22 are really fragile. Despite my best efforts, I still managed to break one.
I decided to use the lower mounting brackets of these parts, glue them onto the gun carriage, and then replaced the thin struts with short lengths of brass 0.5 mm wire,,superglued into small holes drilled into the mounting brackets moulded onto D7 and D8.
One last tip: I would recommend glueing the inside support struts parts C28, C29, onto the inside of the gunshield first.
You can then paint the whole caboodle off the gun, and then glue it on last, rather than risk misaligning the struts or accidentally breaking them, if you glue them onto the sides of the gun as the instructions suggest.
Anyway good luck with your builds everyone, it will be good to see some other interpretations of the morser on the site soon.
Steven- these Morser spoked wheels are somewhat more agricultural than the magical model micro-engineering you were producing!😉
Dave :)
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knowing that you did it all by hand painting makes the final result even more amazing!
I was thinking of a series of masks as I don't think I'll acheive such a smooth and continous line as yours...
As a side note I also jave the 305 mm Skoda gun in my stash, but I am not quite sure if it could be related to WWI.
I mean, the gun was produced between 1911-1916 but was modified and used also in WWII.
All the pictures I saw of a 305 during WWI show a very different gun from Takom's offer, but I also saw a nice build of that gun in a WWI setting in a site dedicated to Austo-Hungary army during WWI (unfortunately the site was in german and they did not reply to my mail...).
Sure if one has to modify the gut to bring it back to 1916 one has a lot of scratch building to do...
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Really nice work. Eventually I'll get to mine. Love the paint work on yours.
James
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Thanks again guys!
Here is the link to the Morser on display in Brussels.
http://www.passioncompassion1418.com/Canons/Eng_AfficheCanonGET.php?IdCanonAffiche=162 (http://www.passioncompassion1418.com/Canons/Eng_AfficheCanonGET.php?IdCanonAffiche=162)
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She's a lovely morser Dave. I'm a great fan of these Takom artillery kits. I think building this one will make me learn some new skills along the way. The wheels on your morser are, robust. :)
Steven
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Very beautiful work and painting, Dave.
Cheers
Martin
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I think building this one will make me learn some new skills along the way. The wheels on your morser are, robust. :)
Steven
These are my thoughts exactly, Steven. Armor and artillery kits offer an opportunity to practice a new way of painting and weathering. It looks very fun do do.
George
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I think building this one will make me learn some new skills along the way. The wheels on your morser are, robust. :)
Steven
These are my thoughts exactly, Steven. Armor and artillery kits offer an opportunity to practice a new way of painting and weathering. It looks very fun do do.
George
This is so true George. I ventured out recently into building an armoured car for a brief flirtation. This was great fun, I'm so hooked now that I'd even consider building a WW1 tank :) or six. Weathering scale models is a most interesting subject.
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0532_zpst1mtupuz.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Renault-Mgebrov%201915/IMGP0532_zpst1mtupuz.jpg.html)
Renault-Mgebrov armoured car 1915
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Whilst waiting for my resin base from Masterpiece Models to arrive, I decided to darken down the tone of my morser which I thought looked a bit too bright.
After airbrushing a couple of filter coats, the morser now looks like this:
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Really nice Dave, the filter added to the look.
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Very well done Dave.
Cheers
Martin
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Very nicely done Dave, the filter added the finishing touch to an already superb model.
Des.
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Very well done! Terrific painting and the final tone down looks awesome!
RAGIII
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Many thanks for the comments everyone!
Today my diorama base from Masterpiece Models arrived.
The casting is really good with no air bubbles.
Just need to source an artillery crew and a few morser rounds next....
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Beautiful work, Dave! The darkening with the filter was
just what it needed. Perfect! I look forward to seeing
what you do with the diorama base. Well done, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Hey Dave!
I like it very much! I can't wait to see how your base will turn out... not to mention what i could steal learn from you! ;)
ciao
edo
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The diorama base looks excellent , it will paint up beautifully and really set the scene.
Des.
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Thank you everyone!
Yes on the subject of painting, the resin base was washed and then given a spray coat of resin-primer.
Next the central pit area was airbrushed with Tamiya flat earth XF-52.
I then decided to try something different for the sides of the base. Rather than plain black sides which nevertheless would look good, the multi coloured German helmets of 1917, provided some inspiration.....
(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K76cMfpqYSU/VtwX25RYVlI/AAAAAAAAYhA/7ryiYhGxvsI/s1024-no/DSC03526.JPG)
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If anyone is interested in how / why the German helmets came to be painted in this style of camouflage there is an interesting article here:
https://alexanderandsonsrestorations.com/truth-camouflaged-helmets-great-war/ (https://alexanderandsonsrestorations.com/truth-camouflaged-helmets-great-war/)
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Dave,
As always Outstanding skill and craftsmanship my old friend. Very impressive works on the Moser and the base.Love the painting and the details.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Excellent work on the dio Dave, the base looks extremely good and a very clever idea to paint the side with the camo.
Des.
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that's really wonderful Dave!
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Lovely details in the base Dave, great stuff.
I enjoyed the article about the WW1 helmets.
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The Takom mörser also has the short barrel as an option with the kit.
Here it is fitted to the model and sitting on the base.
The barrels are a push fit so you can interchange them.
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"The barrels are a push fit so you can interchange them."
Ahhhh, now that's interesting, I didn't know about that. Beautiful presentation on this morser.
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That is a beautiful job on the Morser! The presentation is Fantastic and very cleverly done!
RAGIII
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It makes me wonder - how did they get the gun into that hole ??? ???
Des.
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Spectacular Mörser beautifully displayed, Dave. I love the camo.
Cheers,
Bud