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Title: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 05, 2015, 06:48:33 PM: I have decided to build a kit this time taking a break from scratch builds. The Macchi M.5 has been a favorite aircraft of mine ever since I first saw it, a truely beautiful looking aeroplane.

I have decided to build the engine first. The crank case is very well cast with pretty good details, apart from the casting block no other clean up was needed. The cylinders are also well done, some fine sanding was required but nothing major, the valve springs are well cast and don't need replacing.

A full build log can be found here; http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/page52.html

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OjSHL5gg7Cs/VZioQR6i-nI/AAAAAAAAR44/lHA_pXzh4mo/s800/macchi%252520x%25252010.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qOOmZ_i9Pt4/VZiodr1ez-I/AAAAAAAAR58/4yGm1WVrMV8/s800/macchi%252520x%25252011.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kw6lzrIidRE/VZioQfjcHCI/AAAAAAAAR48/kUku_weulAE/s800/macchi%252520x%25252012.jpg)

My first obstacle came when trying to fit the rocker assembly to the top of the cylinders, the main boxes did not align with the valve springs. To rectify this I cut off each of the boxes then drilled a 2.0mm hole through the centre of each one, I then inserted a length of 2.0mm brass rod. After sitting the assembly on top of the cylinders and aligning the boxes I fixed them with CA.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vhfXR7uS1Kw/VZioSmr3-xI/AAAAAAAAR5I/h2QDgRd8yqA/s800/macchi%252520x%25252013.jpg)

The PE set contains the three rocker arms, when bent to shape and fitted to the rocker assemble it did not look at all like the real engine, I will be modifying this totally to make it look more the part.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fB47RPYz3js/VZioS4AQGAI/AAAAAAAAR5M/AKgUHArEhQ4/s800/macchi%252520x%25252014.jpg)

I glued the cylinder bases and the cylinders onto the crank case, crank case has been painted with Humbrol No, 56 aluminium. I used 5 minute epoxy to fix these parts, it gave me those few minutes to make sure everything was sitting in their correct positions, slight adjustments were needed. The cylinder bases and the top of the cylinders have been painted with Mr Metal color Dark Iron while the water cooling jackets have been painted with a mix of Mr Metal color Brass and Stainless.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4luAgXMpkR8/VZioVzruWdI/AAAAAAAAR5c/6PINUNTbTdY/s800/macchi%252520x%25252015.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JhO8k7IpqQs/VZioVBHI3II/AAAAAAAAR5Y/PsFrdrNiIrU/s800/macchi%252520x%25252016.jpg)

These photos show the modified rocker arm assembly, I utilised some parts of the PE set but made the remainder from lengths of brass tube and 0.5mm resin bolts, these simulate the adjusting bolts. I painted the rockers with Stainless paint and when dry buffed them lightly. The exhaust pipes are the kit supplied resin parts held with CA.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TisJnRdExqI/VZiokRR3z_I/AAAAAAAAR6U/sB9iYWSIIAA/s800/macchi%252520x%25252022.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Nd9khcEcZRg/VZiokM3CfYI/AAAAAAAAR6Q/zGhOGvZYlI0/s800/macchi%252520x%25252020.jpg)

This will not be a fast build, I am still battling a severe chest infection so progress will only be when I am able to sit at my bench, but I have to admit, modeling is good medicine :) :)

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on July 05, 2015, 07:52:37 PM: Great work to the engine, Des.
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Pgtaylorart on July 05, 2015, 08:15:36 PM: Nice start, Des. The engine is looking great!

George
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: lcarroll on July 05, 2015, 11:28:50 PM: Great subject Des, simply a beautiful aircraft. I'm looking forward to watching this one come together, and nice work on the engine. In the interim get plenty of rest and use the bench time as a "bonus" course of therapy! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: ermeio on July 06, 2015, 02:29:11 AM: It is spectacular as ever, Des
All the best for this new project
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: coyotemagic on July 06, 2015, 03:17:58 AM: Brilliant work on the engine, Des! This is gonna be a fun build to follow! Hope your feeling better soon.

Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Alexis on July 06, 2015, 10:26:53 AM: Excellent details Des :)

Terri
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 06, 2015, 01:49:27 PM: i hope you start feeling better soon, it is miserable when you are sick. i am certain this will be a great model when you finish.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: andonio64 on July 06, 2015, 05:32:41 PM: Hoping to get you back to the working bench in full health I'll follow this build with much interest!

Antonio
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Ernie on July 06, 2015, 08:11:02 PM: Hope you are feeling better, Des. The engine on your new
build is coming along beautifully. I see you haven't totally given
up on the scratch building this time. ;) ;D Good work, my friend.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Verbeek on July 06, 2015, 09:09:21 PM: Get better, we want to see more! :)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Bluesfan on July 07, 2015, 01:06:50 AM: Great work on the engine, I'm already enjoying following this :)
I'm sure the end result will be gorgeous

Mark
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 07, 2015, 09:33:44 PM: I need to thank all these people for leaving such wonderful comments - Martin, George, Lance, Ermeio, Bud, Terri, Scott, Antonio, Ernie, Verbeek, Michael, Bo and Mark, your very kind comments are much appreciated.

I made and fitted the water pipes on one side of the engine, this will be connected to the radiator. I also fitted the inlet manifold, it does not line up very well with the inlet ports in the cylinders, I had to extend one of the pipe by 2mm. I also made and fitted the spark plugs and the ignition leads which run into the home made ignition lead tube. I have ordered Bo's magnetos as none are supplied with the kit, I still need to add more plumbing and throttle levers to the carbs. Even though the kit engine is quite nice it is missing a lot of essential elements.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WryOTEFdI7A/VZu2O0NO9ZI/AAAAAAAAR6s/YetaMJouq8o/s800/macchi%252520x%25252023.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HrsfZPi9dqk/VZu2PjMn_eI/AAAAAAAAR64/JUpEg_E9FXQ/s800/macchi%252520x%25252024.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YNOSTNL92YM/VZu2QEp0agI/AAAAAAAAR68/HvDKzMTavoM/s800/macchi%252520x%25252025.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on July 07, 2015, 11:43:16 PM: Outstanding engine, Des.
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Ronkootje on July 07, 2015, 11:47:25 PM: Quote from: Michael Scarborough on July 07, 2015, 10:57:03 PM
Great work, Des!

I'm sorry to hear about the short comings of the engine. As exposed as it is, that parts are not properly supplied with the kit seems pretty unforgivable.

Bo...you picking up on this?

I and my m8 drawing up an engine from factory scale drawings.

Ron
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: RAGIII on July 08, 2015, 12:53:54 AM: Your engine is looking outstanding... as always Des! Your additions are making a good engine into a piece of art!
RAGIII
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: PrzemoL on July 08, 2015, 06:17:00 AM: Spectacular work on the engine, Des! I will be watching this thread with great interest.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 08, 2015, 07:57:07 AM: Many thanks Michael, Martin, Ron, Rick and Przemol for all the very kind comments.

You are quite right Michael saying that the missing components for the engine is unforgiveable, the engine is fully exposed so must be appropriately detailed. Some of these aircraft flew without the radiator/engine fairing which exposed the engine even further. As you already know I enjoy detailing my engines so I will be doing my best to detail this particular engine to be as close to the original as possible.

Ron, looking forward to seeing your engine once you have it completed, should be a spectacular kit.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: mammut08 on July 09, 2015, 08:26:04 AM: Hi Des,

Have you tried placing the engine into the nacelle bottom? My engine is too deep and too wide. The result is that it does not mount as shown in the instructions and may need modification/reshaping. Just a heads up as you super detail yours.

Dave
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 09, 2015, 01:50:35 PM: Thanks Dave for the forewarning. I assembled the engine struts and the PE mounting plates, the struts are reinforced with stainless steel wire which is very hard to cut. As with your engine Dave, I also needed to file quite a bit off the bottom of the crank case to allow the engine to sit low enough to sit on the bearers, the width was spot on though. These photos show the engine and engine struts just sitting in position for photo purposes, even at this early stage the extremely attractive lines of this aeroplane are quite visible. I still need to add more details to the engine.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ms5Iedx_8-k/VZ3tpx8wJ6I/AAAAAAAAR7Y/6Wfof3N0DOU/s800/macchi%252520x%25252028.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XzMNdaLnMMk/VZ3tsMiEJSI/AAAAAAAAR7o/EUWRAG6-Q5o/s800/macchi%252520x%25252029.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WGNCU_PIA8A/VZ3tsN5zPTI/AAAAAAAAR7w/xvS8dwYcQDM/s800/macchi%252520x%25252031.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: KitRookie37 on July 09, 2015, 04:34:29 PM: Hello gentlemen,
Mmm, I like this flying boat and done by your hands, it will be amazing. A very very attractive work on this engine. Bravo Des !!
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on July 09, 2015, 07:23:30 PM: Looks very good Des.
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 09, 2015, 08:23:24 PM: Thank you for your very kind comments Alain and Martin.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: RAGIII on July 09, 2015, 09:39:26 PM: Des,
The engine is continuing to develop into a model in and of itself! It seems as though it is a good thing you guys like problem solving and overcoming difficulties in assembly!
RAGIII
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 11, 2015, 02:32:46 PM: that is coming along very nicely des
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 11, 2015, 06:20:58 PM: Another high quality build, Des ;)
Keep up the great work.

BVB
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 11, 2015, 07:04:50 PM: Many thanks Rick, Scott and Bob for your very kind comments, they are very much appreciated.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Ernie on July 11, 2015, 07:30:45 PM: Beautiful work Des, and you are right about the lovely lines
of these aeroplanes. This will be gorgeous when you are done!
I hope your health is continuing to improve, my friend. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 11, 2015, 07:44:58 PM: Thanks very much Ernie for your very kind words.

My health is improving every day, it has been a long slow process though, thank you for asking.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 12, 2015, 10:56:50 AM: The tail has now been fitted, I used 0.5mm copper wire for the pins to hold the elevators and rudder, this allows for adjustment to the position of the elevators and rudder if needed. I also used pins to fix the tail plane to the bottom of the fin. I will now remove the rudder and paint it before final fitment.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jYdBxKvhdlA/VaG5Ff-jlFI/AAAAAAAAR8U/Hz-812bqNDA/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252033.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Cy1PijUA3yM/VaG5FJQn3vI/AAAAAAAAR8Q/Y9daV9r2ZQo/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252032.jpg)

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 12, 2015, 12:30:13 PM: Thanks Michael for your very kind words, they are very much appreciated.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: ermeio on July 12, 2015, 06:22:14 PM: It is turning into a masterpiece like the preceding models
Did you add details inside the cockpit?
A very nice model from the start.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 12, 2015, 06:41:01 PM: Thank you Ermeio for your very kind comments, I have not started the cockpit yet but when I do I will be adding as much detail as possible.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on July 12, 2015, 08:39:05 PM: Exellent work like your other builds, Des.
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: PrzemoL on July 13, 2015, 06:51:44 AM: It is a delight to behold, Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 13, 2015, 09:22:26 PM: Thanks Martin and Przemol for your very kind comments.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 15, 2015, 08:43:26 PM: While waiting for oil paints to dry I added a few more bits and pieces to the engine, all that is needed now are the two magnetos which are at the moment jetting their way from the states, hopefully I will have them by the end of the week.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oxXvogZEuUM/VaY4OIyuGsI/AAAAAAAASBE/qlAmnLcR0as/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252045.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u-oDZv4wK60/VaY0PVU2pUI/AAAAAAAASAY/ny5h8LjplwU/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252041.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b2TwmsowcOA/VaY0PkMUB0I/AAAAAAAASAg/1S2_n9l244A/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252040.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: boggie on July 15, 2015, 09:43:21 PM: Hi Des.

I've been looking forward to viewing close up pix of your enhanced engine.
I expected your results to be excellent, of course, :) but all those little extra details have elevated
the original to stardom. Very nice indeed!
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: First tee on July 15, 2015, 10:05:28 PM: Wow, that engine is beautiful!
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on July 15, 2015, 10:22:27 PM: Exellent engine, Des.
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Ernie on July 15, 2015, 10:31:00 PM: Amazing job of the engine, Des!
You really are a magician, my friend.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: RAGIII on July 15, 2015, 11:35:33 PM: Des,
That is one of the most incredible engines I can recall having seen! Just fantastic!
RAGIII
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: coyotemagic on July 16, 2015, 02:19:46 AM: That engine is truly spectacular, Des! Looks like I left a few bits off when I built mine.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 16, 2015, 07:27:34 AM: My many thanks to Boggie, First tee, Martin, Ernie, Michael, Rick and Bud for taking the time to have a look at my build and for leaving such wonderful comments.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: 15badcats on July 16, 2015, 12:18:49 PM: This is looking great The engine looks very nice Have you decided on markings? I can't wait to see this finished
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: AndrewS on July 16, 2015, 05:26:16 PM: Excellent work on the engine!

You wip will be very useful for my build :D

Andrew
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: KiwiZac on July 17, 2015, 12:29:12 PM: I'm not a Macchi fan but this is a treat to follow, Des. Great work on that engine.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 17, 2015, 03:36:21 PM: the engine looks really great des. but then i expected as such.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: tram1 on July 17, 2015, 06:59:11 PM: Great work Des,have you noticed the wing floats.Should they be solid wood as in the kit or hung from struts? I cant find any ref in the windsock datafile ?
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 17, 2015, 08:51:38 PM: Thanks very much guys for all the nice comments, they are much appreciated.

Tram1 - I have seen many photos of the Macchi M.5 plus other versions of the same plane and the wing floats vary depending on the model. This classic photo shows a Macchi M.5 with the floats suspended on struts, but the majority of photos I have seen show the floats as being fixed directly to the wing, I will take another look at mine when I get to that stage and see what is involved in making modifications, I prefer the look of the suspended floats.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tas6lnL3vBw/Vajc1_Zj3JI/AAAAAAAASBY/cUYtugSLMi8/s750-Ic42/NaviI2691MacchiM5.jpg)
Title: Re: Wing Floats
Post by: mammut08 on July 18, 2015, 12:58:53 AM: Hi All,

If I remember correctly, the Windsock datafile on the M-5 does identify to serial number those airframes equipped with fixed floats. I believe it was limited to the first 50. Moreover, discussion of this kit over at Large Scale Planes suggests that both of the schemes provided in the HPH kit are for aircraft with suspended floats. I will have a look when I get home from work and see if I can sort this out. Me, I am going to finish mine as one of the first 50, so I can concentrate on a natural wood finish without a lot of markings.

Des, you engine is fantastic!

Best,

Dave
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Paperquest on July 18, 2015, 04:17:04 AM: Des, you are an amazing artist, there's just no other way to say it.

Your builds are just so precise. I've never seen close ups that still look real, I am amazed.

Mack
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: PrzemoL on July 18, 2015, 05:40:43 AM: Mammut is rigth, Des. "Suspended" floats are one of features of later version of M.5. The other change introduced after initial 50 boats was rearrangement of rib layout on lower wings. The early ones had the same "dense" pattern, as the upper wing. The later ones had the lower wing ribs with larger spacing. Indeed, the majority of fancy coloured M.5s were from the later batch.

And again, great work on your model, Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: pepperman42 on July 18, 2015, 09:45:51 AM: Fabulous miniature engineering!!!!

Steve
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 18, 2015, 03:48:26 PM: Thanks very much Dave, Mack, Przemol and Steve for you very kind comments.

I finished all the components for the cockpit interior, again it is very basic but little is seen once closed up. Now comes the issues, the cockpit is extremely confined, the seat sits hard up against the control column, the control column (machine gun triggers) sits hard up against the instrument panel, the machine guns sit too far forward, the butt and handles should be sitting inside the cockpit. I don't know what the problems are, is the cockpit too small or are all the components too large, even the thickness of the fuselage walls at the cockpit are different and the fuselage frames do not correspond with each side. I fitted the machine gun trigger cable and the rudder cables, can't be seen now. I am very disappointed with the kit so far, every thing I have touched needs extra work, I know that this is a limited run resin kit but it is looking more like a second rate attempt to make a kit of the beautiful Macchi M.5, the price of the kit is way too high for a poor quality product.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F7h4mCZqX_g/VanlUqYbmYI/AAAAAAAASCQ/86d1qyyK0kc/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252053.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sfzLyuDhbPk/VanlTJ0OHGI/AAAAAAAASCA/3lO18CkoplY/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252051.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 18, 2015, 08:25:36 PM: I have temporarily fitted the bottom wings onto 1.0mm pins that are fitted to the fuselage, I still need to adjust the dihedral which will be set at 3º. The wings will be removed so the fuselage can be painted.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GOq_F6zVhFc/VaoocE71P8I/AAAAAAAASDA/ocr0V4j4XMs/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252055.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bcboX0Z_VtA/VaooThJiYMI/AAAAAAAASCk/XdNi7HUufAM/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252057.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W-A5iiV1l7s/VaooV6lwsoI/AAAAAAAASC4/mDvpcPaS1oI/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252059.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on July 18, 2015, 09:09:30 PM: Sorry to hear that Des. But you make a very great build.
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: petrov27 on July 18, 2015, 10:29:52 PM: Also sorry to hear of the kits shortcomings.... but what you have done so far with it looks fantastic
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: lcarroll on July 18, 2015, 10:43:42 PM: Des,
Sorry to hear this Kit is so disappointing despite all your efforts and the expense. I'm not sure I'd have your patience with this one. It's short comings are no doubt worse then you represent them given your skills; as Petrov says it looks fantastic at first glance however the dimension problems are not easily, if at all, remedied. I definitely will be waiting for another brand of this subject; this one, even leaving the price out of the equation, looks like trouble! Struggling at every step definitely takes the fun out of the exercise!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: rowan broadbent on July 18, 2015, 11:39:52 PM: Des, (and anyone else who needs them)

here are 1/32nd scale drawings of the Macchi M5 floats used by the majority of production machines, the dimensions are taken from factory drawings. The struts should be constructed over-length and trimmed to an exact fit on the model. These were originally prepared for our 1/48th decals and the Blue Max kit.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h77/airbag2/Wing%20Float%20Drawings_zpsuchqvz6p.jpg)

Rowan
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: RAGIII on July 18, 2015, 11:50:31 PM: Des, it is a bummer that the kit is so lacking in basic quality! On the other hand your skills are certainly making the Model look great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: coyotemagic on July 19, 2015, 04:23:32 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on July 18, 2015, 11:50:31 PM
Des, it is a bummer that the kit is so lacking in basic quality! On the other hand your skills are certainly making the Model look great!
RAGIII
I agree with my amigo, Des! You're bringing your usual high level of craftsmanship to this disappointing kit, just as you did with that Omega kit. High price does not always translate to high quality.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on July 19, 2015, 04:34:41 AM: It would be nice if Ray reprinted the Datafile for this plane.
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Ernie on July 19, 2015, 08:50:14 PM: Des, I totally agree with Bud and Rick. Despite the many problems
with the kit, your talents are shining through. To me it looks wonderful!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: macsporran on July 20, 2015, 12:22:19 AM: I have been swithering over buying this kit since it's release but have been put off by the high price. This sort of money for a single seater really begs a quality of the order of WNW or similar, as far as I am concerned.
Can I express a personal thanks to you Des for your frank appraisal of the kit's shortcomings. Also my continuing unbounded admiration for your skill in turning this particular sow's ear into a silk purse!
Sandy
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: pepperman42 on July 20, 2015, 03:05:22 AM: You've still made a silk purse though. Attention Mr Aviattic..........

Steve
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Ronkootje on July 20, 2015, 03:22:33 AM: Trust me guys the one we are making is up to standard, Des is doing a great job though.

Keep in mind that the datafile drawings are also not correct!

Ron
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 20, 2015, 07:37:38 AM: Many thanks to the following people who have taken the time to look at my model and to leave very kind messages, Martin, Petrov, Lance, Rowan, Rick, Bud, Ernie, Sandy, Steve and Ron.

Rowan - thank you for posting the picture of the suspended floats, this will be excellent if I decide to change mine.

Ron, I look forward so much to the release of your kit, it will be a beauty. Thank you for your comments on my current build, I have never let a kit beat me and I am not going to let this one be the first.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: 15badcats on July 20, 2015, 11:52:00 AM: I think your build looks great so far The harder the build the more proud you'll be of the finished kit I've always found and so far you have a lot to be proud of
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Ssasho0 on July 20, 2015, 04:28:12 PM: a real pity that the kit is giving you so much trouble, I know the feeling. On the other hand, a modeller like you is 100% able to turn it into showstopper. Still, sometimes we just want a relaxing build, without oo much hassle and when the build appeared soemthing completely different, the frustration is really there.
What can i Say of the build itself - it is forming really beautifully and th eengine itself is just WOW!

best regards,
Sasho
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: mammut08 on July 21, 2015, 12:30:04 AM: Hi Des,

You build is looking great! I hope to make some progress on mine this week. One observation on your engine supports. There should be cross braces between all three uprights as shown in this photo.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q707/mammut08/macchi_zpsc6qo9djn.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/mammut08/media/macchi_zpsc6qo9djn.jpg.html)

Best,

Dave
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 21, 2015, 07:32:18 AM: Thanks Dave for the info on the braces between the struts, I already have the front one fitted but have not as yet got around to fitting the centre and rear braces, I also have to fit all the eyelets for the engine support rigging, I will not rig it until it is fitted to the aeroplane. I painted the base coat then oil paint to simulate the timber fuselage, it is now in my heat box and will take a day or two to dry thoroughly.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: stefanbuss on July 21, 2015, 07:06:32 PM: How disappointing to hear of all those deficiencies the kit as shown so far - nevertheless i still can not decide what impresses me more: The level of detail you are able to achieve, despite all those problems, or the skill you show with your photos.

Keep pressing one, please!

Stefan
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 24, 2015, 02:29:05 PM: I have added the 'wood' to the fuselage, for this I first base coated with Gunze H85 Sail Colour then Burnt Sienna oil paints, once it was all dry I sprayed a few light coats of clear yellow. I have also fitted the two magnetos, these are the ones designed by Bo and made by Shapeways, a brilliant product and very easy to assemble and paint, I had to modify the rear of the engine to accommodate the magnetos but I'm pleased that I did as they are a very essential part of the engine, I can't believe that HpH did not included them with the kit.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5w9skDtiM8A/VbG8omITY3I/AAAAAAAASEs/GT1DcqvdmrQ/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252069.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5cfggE-CcxI/VbG8rcKElMI/AAAAAAAASFA/rjE3zuDq_oo/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252070.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hx1rdcdyNR4/VbG8tna-n9I/AAAAAAAASFc/1Hm-Em7Vv-c/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252073.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4GpLIEjHTFE/VbG8uNXpDeI/AAAAAAAASFg/AezOF_5t-Rg/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252074.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H9p1DU6co4s/VbG8rbE6SLI/AAAAAAAASFI/CZEmi2qEN48/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252071.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Pgtaylorart on July 24, 2015, 02:54:27 PM: Brilliant work all around, Des! That engine looks terrific!

George
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 24, 2015, 03:31:29 PM: Thanks very much George for your very kind comments. The engine built OOB is quite basic but with a little extra work it turns out to be an acceptable engine, the magnetos really finish it off beautifully.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on July 24, 2015, 09:22:36 PM: Beautiful update Des.
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 24, 2015, 09:50:13 PM: Thank you Martin and Bo for your very nice comments, they are much appreciated.

Bo, the magnetos are excellent and are so easy to assemble and paint, I will be buying more to keep as spares for my scratch builds.

I painted the top forward fuselage, I used Gunze H1 full gloss white which sprayed beautifully, the lower hull will be done the same colour.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i0jX53-uZig/VbHQKILh5mI/AAAAAAAASGI/FezZ5X3zSt4/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252077.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HaDAC4tsnKw/VbHQIdPNhjI/AAAAAAAASF8/E7Mxiv-_5yk/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252078.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Ernie on July 24, 2015, 09:58:17 PM: Des, the engine is absolutely wonderful! Bo's magnetos are a great addition.
The Gunze white looks mirror perfect. Was it primed at all? What an attractive
model this is shaping up to, my friend. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: RAGIII on July 25, 2015, 12:17:11 AM: I have to add my voice to the choir, Excellent wood finish! The white looks terrific! Another Stunner in process!
RAGIII
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: GAJouette on July 25, 2015, 02:33:10 AM: Des,
You've out done yourself again my old friend. You truly do rate Master Level. I read through your scratch built section on the home page last evening. I've never seen such a grand collection , each a Magnum Opus.

Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on July 25, 2015, 05:16:01 AM: It comes up fantastic.
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 25, 2015, 01:59:10 PM: My many thanks to Ernie, Michael, Rick, Gregory and Martin for all your very kind comments, they are very much appreciated.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: ermeio on July 25, 2015, 04:56:50 PM: superlative, Des !
The engine is a model in itself
Pay attention to the cross braces between the uprights - they have a tensioning buckle in their middle
You can represent it with putty or a blob of color - it is a shapeless protuberance
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: KitRookie37 on July 25, 2015, 05:14:05 PM: Hello gentlemen and ladies,
Yeah, paint is coming, in a beautiful way. It looks like a racer.
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 26, 2015, 04:01:53 PM: Thank you Ermeio and Alain for your much appreciated comments.

I painted the lower part of the hull using the same Gunze Full Gloss White as I did on the top. I have also noticed that the engine is sitting too far aft, the propeller does not pass through the hollowed out section in the fuselage, in real life this would cause huge issues, bits of wood would be flying everywhere ??? ??? but on the model the propeller can be position in such a way as not to be noticed. I have also clear coated the wood and painted surfaces with a clear gloss ready for decals.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k2bhmUvUjmY/VbR2X9zSA-I/AAAAAAAASKc/RrUqOZfuSxs/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252083.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fs-QAh2bV9k/VbR2YYiyPMI/AAAAAAAASKk/-DnGLnTyhi0/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252084.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on July 26, 2015, 08:15:45 PM: Your painting looks very great, Des.
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: ermeio on July 26, 2015, 09:16:00 PM: It is terrific Des!
Please remember that these circular holes ahead of the cockpit are portholes to let some light shine through upon the guns.
Someone (wrongly) interpreted them as fuel caps - they are covered with cellon.
There is a fuel cap behind the cockpit, do not forget it, else it becomes difficult to position after the top wing is in place.
I appreciate this model
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Ernie on July 26, 2015, 11:52:44 PM: Lovely paintwork on the hull, Des. The propeller being a bit too far
back really doesn't distract from the model at all. Excellent progress,
my friend.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: ermeio on July 27, 2015, 06:33:21 AM: Quote from: ermeio on July 26, 2015, 09:16:00 PM
It is terrific Des!
Please remember that these circular holes ahead of the cockpit are portholes to let some light shine through upon the guns.
Someone (wrongly) interpreted them as fuel caps - they are covered with cellon.
There is a fuel cap behind the cockpit, do not forget it, else it becomes difficult to position after the top wing is in place.
It is on the right hand of the pilot
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipN5mTZ-vM7-9wsKqlrrHzSeU-DA4JBTKFHgAIfB (https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipN5mTZ-vM7-9wsKqlrrHzSeU-DA4JBTKFHgAIfB)

I hope that this image will help.
There is also a small hole to let the wires pass through on each side of the fuselage.
A great rendition of the wood!
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 27, 2015, 08:00:05 AM: With help from Ermeio the issue with the engine sitting too far rearward has been solved. I have checked a lot of reference material and found that on this model the engine support frame is in the incorrect position, it should be 5mm further forward, this would allow the propeller to sit in the correct position over the fuselage. It is too late for me to make corrections to my model but if anyone else is building this kit it would be highly advisable to make the alterations early in the build.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 27, 2015, 09:33:04 PM: It took quite a bit of detective work but I found the location of the fuel filler cap, photos of this area are extremely hard to come by but with help from Ermeio and some searching by me we came across two photos which show the location, not clear photos but good enough. I have now added the fuel filler cap, the fuel tank sits directly behind the pilot.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iV1whH206m8/VbYVj7KfYVI/AAAAAAAASLY/-gMDoYOWHGg/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252085.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: RAGIII on July 27, 2015, 11:15:17 PM: Des,
Your build is continuing to look awesome in spite of the kit shortcomings! I see you have begun applying markings! Looks terrific!
RAGIII
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: lcarroll on July 28, 2015, 01:27:27 AM: Beautiful Des, simply just beautiful!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on July 28, 2015, 06:36:30 AM: Wonderful, Des.
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 29, 2015, 08:02:09 AM: Thanks to Rick, Lance and Martin for your very kind comments.

Rick, I have added the markings to the front of the aircraft but the roundels are translucent showing the wood colour through and then a distinct line with the white. I cut and added another circle of white decal paper and placed it over the roundel but there is still a slight difference between the wood and the white showing through. If I had known that this decal was so translucent I would have applied a solid white circle first then the decal, we live and learn.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: mammut08 on July 29, 2015, 08:09:21 AM: Hi Des,

You are making some great progress. I wish I had your detailing skips. That engine is outstanding and I love the fuel filler cap. Good to know about the decals. I have been debating decals vs masks, but it looks like it's time to fire up my silhouette portrait and cut some roundels.

Best,

Dave
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: PrzemoL on July 29, 2015, 07:47:51 PM: Fantastic progress on this lovely flying boat, Des. It will surely turn into another of your masterpieces.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Ernie on July 29, 2015, 08:14:47 PM: Quote from: PrzemoL on July 29, 2015, 07:47:51 PM
Fantastic progress on this lovely flying boat, Des. It will surely turn into another of your masterpieces.

Just what I was thinking! Lovely lines on this aeroplane and with
your talents, Des it will be a jewel! Nice start on the markings., my friend.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 29, 2015, 09:00:55 PM: Thanks very much for your very kind compliments Dave, Przemol and Ernie.

The engine support frame and engine are now fixed in place, the support frame rigging is also completed. I also made and added the small vent pipe for the fuel filler cap. The decals have now been applied, the repairs to the roundel are not too bad.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-098B-1UFOrc/VbiietqOf9I/AAAAAAAASMI/iUUyjVaDLls/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252086.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LlMkW8K3rbc/Vbiv-OkBJXI/AAAAAAAASMw/AxqcUA7LZ5c/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252091.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sqUj1w4p1hw/Vbiv8LfWFmI/AAAAAAAASMc/QuMAO9EU9VM/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252088.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fvWTrSfwDUU/VbiifeGAw6I/AAAAAAAASMM/rP1yyWxTwnE/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252087.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PKwaoRhpd-M/Vbiv-PdNeqI/AAAAAAAASM0/Ycstu2sbyAc/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252090.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yq88oP--0vY/Vbiv80WPGPI/AAAAAAAASMk/DYeq-etNiqY/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252089.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: First tee on July 29, 2015, 09:37:27 PM: That plane is amazingly cool looking. Like a mahogany hulled Chris Craft.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on July 29, 2015, 10:12:32 PM: What a wonderful work and paint, Des.
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: RAGIII on July 29, 2015, 11:45:25 PM: Gorgeous paint job and decaling Des!
RAGIII
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Pgtaylorart on July 30, 2015, 01:34:40 AM: You are really doing justice to this incredibly beautiful air/water craft, Des! As First Tee said, it looks like a wooden Chris Craft boat. Also, I can't see any evidence of repairs to the roundels. Perfection!

George
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: coyotemagic on July 30, 2015, 04:05:11 AM: Simply gorgeous, Des! She's shaping up so beautifully.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on July 30, 2015, 08:11:19 AM: My many thanks to First Tee, Martin, Rick, George and Bud for your very kind words.

Even with all of its misgivings this kit is starting to shape up as a very nice looking model, the Macchi has always been one of my favorite WW1 aircraft and the more I work on this model the more I can see why, it is a gorgeous shape, so perfectly proportioned, just a beautiful looking aeroplane.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 30, 2015, 04:39:11 PM: Shaping up beautifully, Des ;)

vB
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 01, 2015, 09:09:10 PM: Thanks Bob for looking in and leaving very kind comments.

I have decided to add the suspended wing floats and thanks to Rowan I was able to use his 1:32 scale drawings of the floats as a template, they printed out in exact 1:32 scale. I made the floats from styrene sheet then made the brackets from 0.5mm copper wire, the floats will be painted the same wood colour as the hull and the brackets will be black. The tail and wings have been painted with Hobby Color H313 Yellow then coated with a low sheen clear. I also added the two stays under the tail plane, these are made from 1.0mm brass tube. The rudder colours have been painted using a combination of Gunze and Humbrol paints.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K0niVIwYYS4/VbygWpZfHII/AAAAAAAASPE/K5aWFURqUko/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520103.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lq6GVDPOEFY/VbygU8LgGgI/AAAAAAAASO4/j9x0l7Cakag/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520102.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-276K-QNLezI/VbygUxtIwgI/AAAAAAAASO0/fCghRrcZtI0/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520101.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r7Nm2_tEEPM/VbygXEWTAeI/AAAAAAAASPI/Dcr4xWAhIxI/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%25252099.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kDUDtaHCGrk/VbygUrJ7GeI/AAAAAAAASOw/9MFy_cqL88w/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520100.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: RAGIII on August 01, 2015, 09:28:28 PM: A truly STUNNING build ! Lovely work on those floats and rudder colors!
RAGIII
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 01, 2015, 09:45:18 PM: Thanks Rick for your kind words, they are much appreciated.

I have now set the 3º dihedral on the bottom wings, I will glue the wings on tomorrow to retain the dihedral.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: ermeio on August 01, 2015, 09:53:36 PM: It is perfect and the colour scheme is one of the most attractive ever seen on an aircraft
The perfect mix of natural materials and painted areas.
really an eyecatching subject.
It will became a showstopper
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on August 01, 2015, 11:40:32 PM: Your build comes very nicely together, Des.
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: lcarroll on August 02, 2015, 12:19:47 AM: It's really come together nicely Des. I'll borrow Rick's word; stunning!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 02, 2015, 08:12:16 AM: Many thanks to Ermeio, Martin and Lance for your wonderful compliments, they are greatly appreciated.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Ernie on August 02, 2015, 06:34:22 PM: Quote from: lcarroll on August 02, 2015, 12:19:47 AM
It's really come together nicely Des. I'll borrow Rick's word; stunning!
Cheers,
Lance

Me too, Lance. Des this model is an absolute dream. What a wonderful looking
aeroplane! Carry on astounding, my friend. ;) :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: pepperman42 on August 02, 2015, 11:38:58 PM: Just catching up again. Beautiful!!!!!!

Steve
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on August 03, 2015, 02:57:08 AM: That's got to be one of the most beautiful planes EVER. I love your painting skills and that engine is amazing.

Late to the show...Dan
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 03, 2015, 07:55:35 AM: Thanks very much Ernie, Steve and Dan for your very kind comments.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: pietro on August 03, 2015, 09:27:02 AM: Des, those are some sweet castings, but of course, in your skilled hands this will be a masterwork! Please, Des, stay healthy...

Pietro
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 03, 2015, 10:18:03 AM: You compliments are always greatly appreciated Pietro.

It is now a waiting game, I oil painted the floats, the wing struts and the propeller, all parts are in my heat box drying, it is cold weather here today so I will leave the heat box running for two days. I also painted the top wing and applied the decals and I am in the process of putting together the beaching trolley and the two stands.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: RAGIII on August 03, 2015, 11:34:41 AM: I am looking forward to the photos!
RAGIII
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 03, 2015, 07:23:25 PM: Here you go Rick, some photos of the beaching trolley and stands. They went together very easy with the use of PVA wood glue. I decided to paint them with Gunze H66 Sandy Brown instead of using oils, I still need to spray them with a matt clear. The trolley fits the hull beautifully and the stands can be positioned to suit your own preferences. The top wing is nearly done, just need to add the red and green to the under side then a coat of satin clear.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gkaHap9e4jI/Vb8xDWR7gyI/AAAAAAAASPo/99fHoi-mdSA/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520104.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xkIf9x5qUsI/Vb8xDdEM1AI/AAAAAAAASPs/KZ6X1CZRpNE/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520105.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NczqBH2tgPQ/Vb8xDERAp-I/AAAAAAAASPk/TdWFHMyK6Vw/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520106.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1F4BxcUTft0/Vb8xFxT-oBI/AAAAAAAASP8/TKYayhST1q0/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520107.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E5ZhZRqCPX8/Vb8xGD8aOuI/AAAAAAAASQA/jL5zZKzuD1I/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520108.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-X-951jQSzO4/Vb8xHftO2ZI/AAAAAAAASQM/saKX_Wv1Qx8/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520110.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Nigel Jackson on August 03, 2015, 07:28:36 PM: When welcoming new members I often mention that I find the forum inspirational. Your work on this Macchi, Des, is exactly the sort of thing I have in mind when saying this. Glorious, just glorious!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: KitRookie37 on August 03, 2015, 08:41:58 PM: Hello gentlemen and ladies,
Nice, very, very nice !!! :)
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on August 03, 2015, 10:02:42 PM: Very wonderful work, Des.
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: RAGIII on August 03, 2015, 11:05:52 PM: Des, Spectacular work! This is certainly a lovely scheme! I am glad to hear that at least the stands and trolley fit :o Your painting of the wings and fuselage are just gorgeous!
RAGIII
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: mammut08 on August 04, 2015, 12:43:41 AM: Fantastic work Des!
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 04, 2015, 07:41:53 AM: Nigel, Alain, Martin, Rick and Dave, thank you all for your wonderful comments, they are very much appreciated.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 04, 2015, 08:33:34 AM: exceptional build des, that is one sweet macchi
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 05, 2015, 01:43:38 PM: Thanks very much Scott for following along and leaving very kind comments.

I made and added the wing floats, the float brackets are made from 0.5mm copper wire while the floats are made from styrene sheet. In my opinion the suspended floats look better than the floats fitted directly to the wing which are supplied with the kit. Note that the propeller has also been painted and is now fitted to the engine.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MMsb3GiRnNA/VcGE7ROK-6I/AAAAAAAASQg/3WdwjAHvEoY/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520111.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iXeVkQ02uuw/VcGE8_jld2I/AAAAAAAASQw/9VPtYJIb6IY/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520112.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fkqnF38alLw/VcGE8OXT43I/AAAAAAAASQo/XobgpOM7JtQ/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520113.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Pgtaylorart on August 05, 2015, 05:01:37 PM: Another beautiful update, Des! :)

George
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 05, 2015, 07:06:13 PM: Thanks very much George, your comments are always much appreciated.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: PrzemoL on August 05, 2015, 08:04:06 PM: Looking more and more like M.5, Des. Fine update, indeed.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: IanB on August 06, 2015, 12:20:26 AM: Beautiful Des, but then that's no more than we've come to expect!

Ian
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: rhallinger on August 06, 2015, 01:13:17 AM: This is such an impressive build Des--despite problems with the kit you have created a beautiful and highly appealing replica of this handsome aircraft. Thanks for showing us the way. Very well done!

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: pietro on August 06, 2015, 02:40:37 AM: Des, I can't think of anything that hasn't been said already. This is a masterpiece!
Pietro
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on August 06, 2015, 04:56:18 AM: Wow, very fine work. It comes better and better with every update, Des.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: ondra on August 06, 2015, 05:02:03 AM: Great job, Des, thumbs up!

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: petrov27 on August 06, 2015, 11:16:45 AM: This is really coming together nicely - really great work!

I was skeptical on the very-flat looking die cut trolley wheel parts but what you have done with them it seems they can be made to look very good indeed. I also agree with the suspended floats looking better (and being correct for the provided decal schemes) - I am fairly frustrated they did not include these with the kit itself....
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 06, 2015, 11:27:14 AM: I wish to convey my many thanks to Przemol, Ian, Bob, Pietro, Martin, Ondra and Petrov for your extremely kind comments.

Like you Petrov I am also frustrated with the lack of certain parts of the kit. The floats not being available to suit both types is quite unforgiveable, also the lack of engine detail parts especially for an engine that is highly exposed. I will give a full account of the kit once I have mine completed, so far it has scored about 6/10.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Ernie on August 06, 2015, 07:35:23 PM: Absolutely sublime, Des. The kit may be a 6/10, but with your
knowledge and talents has become a 10/10! Bravo, my friend!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 06, 2015, 09:26:17 PM: Thanks Ernie for your very kind comments.

The top wing and outer struts are now fitted, still need to add the cabane struts. I added the landing rigging to support the bottom wing and to maintain the dihedral, the top wing is quite heavy and adds a lot of weight to the bottom wing, the cabane struts will take some of the pressure off the bottom wing. I used monofilament for the landing rigging because I had to apply a lot of tension. Once I add the flying wires the wing will be centred.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1wEdJ7BP_O0/VcNAhboIYMI/AAAAAAAASTE/6pCL5FzYdfI/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520119.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oAjn21mrpGU/VcNAgmCY75I/AAAAAAAASS8/daKBp29Cy1U/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520118.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bdFrtrFl56w/VcNAfl5ktUI/AAAAAAAASS0/DyM-cVw4Gfw/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520117.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2nikfzLDDuM/VcNAeF1Y73I/AAAAAAAASSs/mlIUxYQewhg/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520116.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: First tee on August 06, 2015, 09:53:05 PM: AWESOME!
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: sobrien on August 06, 2015, 11:18:53 PM: Beeyooteefool! Stunning.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Bluesfan on August 06, 2015, 11:25:00 PM: Such a good looker!

Mark
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: RAGIII on August 07, 2015, 12:33:19 AM: As usual with your builds I am blown away by how terrific this one looks! Beautiful work Des!
RAGIII
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: GAJouette on August 07, 2015, 12:43:45 AM: Des,
I wholeheartedly agree with Rick's comments my old friend. To my eyes the Macchi is your most beautiful projects to date. Well Done!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Pgtaylorart on August 07, 2015, 01:50:11 AM: Quote from: Des on August 06, 2015, 09:26:17 PM

The top wing and outer struts are now fitted, still need to add the cabane struts. I added the landing rigging to support the bottom wing and to maintain the dihedral, the top wing is quite heavy and adds a lot of weight to the bottom wing, the cabane struts will take some of the pressure off the bottom wing. I used monofilament for the landing rigging because I had to apply a lot of tension. Once I add the flying wires the wing will be centred.

Des.

I love it when the model is to such a fine scale that the rigging is not only a cosmetic addition for looks, but is actually functional to the integrity of the structure. Very nice!

George
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: pietro on August 07, 2015, 04:42:14 AM: Des, that is beautiful, the Italian markings are gorgeous. An other masterpiece from you!
Pietro
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on August 07, 2015, 05:11:34 AM: Fantastic!!! ;D
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 07, 2015, 09:16:04 AM: Wow, I am overwhelmed with the response to this build, many thanks must go to the following people who have left really kind and generous remarks since my last update - First Tee, Sobrien, Mark, Michael, Rick, Gregory, George, Pietro, Justin and Martin.

I forgot to mention in my previous update that the top wing went on extremely easy, just a matter of having the top wing sitting on my bench, upside down, then sitting the inverted model onto the wing, a few drops of CA here and there holds it all together. I have since fitted the cabane struts and as predicted they have taken a lot of the pressure off the bottom wings, they actually lifted the bottom wings a tad. The cabanes were easy to fit again done with the model in an inverted position, there is a huge gap between the top and bottom wings so this allows plenty of room to work. My rating for this kit has just risen to 7/10.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: ermeio on August 07, 2015, 05:37:15 PM: Now it is a macchi M 5 !
It is fantastic, Des!
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: PrzemoL on August 07, 2015, 07:15:54 PM: Quote from: ermeio on August 07, 2015, 05:37:15 PM
Now it is a macchi M 5 !
It is fantastic, Des!

Exactly my feeling! :D
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: bobs_buckles on August 07, 2015, 09:25:04 PM: Super Duper, Des!

;)

vB
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: mammut08 on August 08, 2015, 01:22:06 AM: Hi Des,

Looking good! Glad to hear that the top wing/struts all fit well enough.

Best,

Dave
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 08, 2015, 11:10:46 AM: Thank you to Ermeio, Przemol, Bob and Dave for your kind words.

The Macchi M.5 is on the final stages of being completed, a little bit of control rigging to do plus a few more pieces of the outer wing support bracing.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: pietro on August 08, 2015, 12:02:13 PM: Des. man oh man, I love it!
Pietro
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 08, 2015, 02:14:11 PM: this is turning out to be an amazing looking model. congrats
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 08, 2015, 07:58:55 PM: Thank you Pietro and Scott for your very nice comments.

The Macchi M.5 is now completed. Apart from a few shortcomings the kit scrubbed up to be a nice looking model, lack of detail on the engine was my main issue but a bit of scratch building and the addition of two magnetos from Bo helped struce up the engine. The cockpit is a bit cramped but it still looks acceptable. The remainder of the assembly was quite straight forward with reasonably easy rigging. Not shown in the instructions but I added the aileron control cables which come from the rear of the cockpit to the under side of the top wing. Not having the option of the two types of wing floats is I believe a major blunder. My rating for this kit now that it is completed is 7.5/10, not bad for a limited run resin kit.

Two photos here, there are more in the completed models board.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IAOAYlwi4UA/VcXQQrWw1bI/AAAAAAAASa4/SJk3ApOSXkg/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520130.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MrETHfZG3DM/VcXQUCdzrMI/AAAAAAAASbU/tGUW0FuqRDY/s800-Ic42/macchi%252520x%252520134.jpg)
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: RAGIII on August 08, 2015, 10:50:30 PM: Well Des, This one is a Beauty and no Mistake! You have turned this into a masterpiece and I hope the Manufacturers realize just how good you have made their somewhat iffy product look ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Russell on August 09, 2015, 02:00:04 AM: Very well done Des.

You've created (as normal) a stunning model & provided a valuable review of the kit.

Your superb model aside - it must be the most beautiful seaplane created?

Regards
Russell
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: radio on August 09, 2015, 02:51:03 AM: Des you have made an outstanding model!
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 09, 2015, 09:56:42 AM: Thanks very much Rick, Russell and Martin for your very kind comments, they are much appreciated.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: KitRookie37 on August 10, 2015, 08:46:22 PM: Hello gentlemen and ladies,
A pure jewel Des. I like it !!! :D
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 10, 2015, 09:20:43 PM: Thanks Alain, your comments are always very much appreciated.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: andonio64 on August 10, 2015, 09:31:05 PM: Des, it's so beautiful that the original actually seems a copy!!!
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: stefanbuss on August 10, 2015, 09:32:17 PM: Beautiful, Des. I like the Macchi a lot.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 16, 2015, 09:11:53 PM: Thanks very much Andonio and Stefan for your very kind comments.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: pepperman42 on August 18, 2015, 04:35:13 AM: Yet another museum masterpiece. You could charge admission to the display area.

Steve
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 18, 2015, 06:51:42 AM: Thanks Steve for your comments, they are very much appreciated.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: FarEast on August 18, 2015, 10:59:46 AM: Des, you say you are disappointed with the kit. However the finished article is incredible - the M.5 is a beautiful machine typical of Italian engineering of the time and you really have brought it to life.

Incredible build.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Des on August 18, 2015, 11:27:31 AM: Thank you James for your very kind remarks. The reason I purchased and built this kit is because the Macchi M.5 has always been one of my favorite aeroplanes, such beautiful lines. It was just a shame that HpH didn't take it that little bit further and add the details that are needed. I'm hoping that the Macchi M.7 that Ron is working on will be a real gem when released.

Des.
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: FarEast on August 18, 2015, 12:08:55 PM: I must admit I was very tempted to break a promise to myself (only 1 genre and from only one brand.) and purchase the HpH Macchi M.5 as it truly is a work of mechanical art - however after reading your build log I now realise it was the right decision not to, if an artist as yourself that built and incredible rendition found it challenging and frustrating I think it would have been way beyond my own skill level.

You should be very proud of this build!
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: 15badcats on August 18, 2015, 01:58:26 PM: Wow what a beutiful build ! I hope mine turns out half as nice Lets hope that HPH sells enough to justify another WW1 kit And that they improve on every one they do
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: miecio52 on August 18, 2015, 02:38:56 PM: :)Thank you, good instruction to build my M5, if someone does decals in 1/32 to M5?
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: tom1815 on February 05, 2017, 05:59:35 AM: Wow just doesnt cover it
Title: Re: HpH 1:32 scale resin Macchi M.5
Post by: Manni on February 06, 2017, 04:26:52 PM: Oh, I have missed this last post.
Looks really great, as always, when you put you hands on a kit. ;)
Manni