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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Scratch builds => Topic started by: Des on April 18, 2012, 07:05:57 PM
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After a month of a very severe illness, I am finally back on my feet and ready to continue with my Voisin. Please bear in mind that this is my first ever scratch build.
I will start off by posting some images of my progress so far, most of you would have seen these photos but for any new comers this is what I have done.
The fuselage frame is made up of evergreen strips, I followed the plans fairly precicely and tried to keep all dimension within scale.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%201.jpg)
The frame was painted with a base coat of Gunze acrylic then the wood look with oil paints. The fuel tank is made from 0.05mm plastic card, this was cut to size following the plans then bent and glued together using plastic glue. The mounting plates on the side of the tank is made from coke can metal bent to shape then fitted to the sides of the fuel tank.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%205.jpg)
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I used 0.12mm monofilament for the fuselage rigging, turnbuckles are also fitted to each of the rigging lines. The bulkhead forward of the fuel tank is painted the same as the frames. The rear engine mount is made from 0.5mm plastic card.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%208.jpg)
I have started to fit the details inside the cockpit. The rudder bar is mounted, the control column, throttle lever and starting magneto are also fitted.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%2012.jpg)
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This photo shows the under side of the fuselage, I am using 0.5mm plastic card for the fuselage covering. As you can see there are lots of openings on the bottom of the fuselage, guess the pilot wanted to see where he was going.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%2013.jpg)
Here you see most of the cockpit interior finished. I made all the instruments using different size brass tubes and airscale decals. The seats are cover with real leather, a little bit fancy but appropriate for such an elegant aeroplane. The cotrol rigging is conected to the control column and rudder bar.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%2021.jpg)
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The seat belt is now fitted along with some electrical wiring. Fuselage sides are added using 0.5mm plastic card, the compound curve section on the nose is made from a section cut from a 2 litre Pepsi bottle. The beading around the top of the fuselage is made from insulation from small electrical cable, the wires were removed and the platic tube cut down one side. The interior is now finished.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%2035.jpg)
The machine gun is a left over from a Wingnut kit, it has been modified to look like the gun used on the Voisin. I made a bag to hang on the side to collect the spent shells. The frame to hold the gun is made from small diameter brass tube.
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Fantastic Des I've been looking forward to following this build again,can't wait for an Update!
Sean
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Here are most of the components for the undercarriage, I have used mostly brass tube. The undercarriage on this bird is quite unusual, it is very lanky, has four wheels, no steering and brakes on the rear wheels, very thin tyres up front with chunky rear wheels. As can be seen in the second photo, the undercarriage is very strange.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%2045.jpg)
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%2046.jpg)
I have done the undercarriage rigging, each line has a turnbuckle so rigging took some time to complete. Even without the rigging the undercarriage was very strong, it will be plenty strong enough to hold the weight of the comleted model.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%2053.jpg)
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The undercarrige is now done. The front wheels are made up from Toms Modelworks PE spoke wheel set, a bit fiddly to make up but quite strong once all glued together. The tyres are made from electrical cable insulating tube, CA holds it very well to the rims. The rear wheels are left over from a Wingnuts kit, they just happened to be the perfect size, I turned up the brake drums from brass rod and fitted them to the inside of the wheels.
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What a great project. Superb craftsmanship! You should consider writing a 'how to do it' book on building WWI aircraft models.
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Thanks Rob, but I think I will stick to building models, writing books is not my fortè.
The radiators on the Voisin are quite large, there are two of them and they stand nearly upright behind the observer. I made these using 0.5mm plastic card, just a simple box section with straps around them, a shaped top was fitted, this was made from a piece of scrap plastic. The radiator core is made from lengths of 0.4mm brass tube, lots of them, these are held in place with CA. I have left the core natural brass colour.
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(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%2066.jpg)
These photos show the radiators just sitting roughly in position, the metal parts have been painted with Mr Metal Color Stainless and lightly buffed, I will leave the brass tubes as natural brass. Next job will be to manufacture an engine, no ordinary engine but a nine cylinder water cooled radial engine.
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Alright Des! Wonderful to see you up and running again on this grand machine doing that Des magic. The new forum is now revving up for sure. :)
All the best,
Paddy
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Sterling work, simply beautiful.
Regards :)
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The engine I need to make is a Salmson M9, it is a 130hp 9 cylinder water cooled radial. I have no plans for this engine or any dimensions, just some photos and a few drawings, so a lot of it will be guess work.
I started by turning the crank case from a piece of 16mm aluminium rod, it has quite a long propeller shaft which is tapered, these pictures show the crank case in its very basic form. One thing I like about aluminium, it turns beautifully and is the correct natural colour.
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Great work as usual Des, a pleasure to see.
Cheers
Pete.
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Amazing work, Des -
I would not know where to begin on a scratch build........
Dave
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Awesome work Des, have been following this build with much interest, great stuff mate ;)
......I would not know where to begin on a scratch build........
That's actually a very good question - did you start with the frame due to that generally being the initial steps with most kits? (Thinking about it, I guess it is logical?)
Andrew
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I looked at the build sequence as if i was building a real aeroplane, the fuselage frame is the place to start, everything else gets nailed to it.
The cylinders are made from 4.0mm aliminium rod, a brass tube was placed on top then shaped to suit the photos I have of this engine. I made a grid on my computer drawing program to get the nine equal spacings for the holes in the crank case for the cylinder placement, a hole was drilled in the bottom of each cylinder and a pin will hold them to the crank case.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%2075.jpg)
This picture shows the nine cylinders sitting loose on the crank case, it was important to get the spacing exactly correct. I will use CA to hold the cylinders in place, along with the pin they should be quite strong. Not having any dimensions it is a trial and error thing, fitment in the fuselage frame revealed the cylinders to be too long, adjustments need to be made.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%2077.jpg)
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I looked at the build sequence as if i was building a real aeroplane, the fuselage frame is the place to start, everything else gets nailed to it...
Thought as much - thanks.
Andrew
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I have added the accessories to the back of the engine, also the intake and exhaust maniflods as well as the heat exchange plumbing, it is a fairly complex plumbing arrangement on this engine. I have also drilled the nine holes for the spark plugs.
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Great work on the engine Des.
Your engine builds always amaze me with the fine detail you put in, outstanding!!
Andrew
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I have made and added the rocker arms and the push rods, painting has also taken place. I am leaving the crank case as natural aluminium, why paint something that is alreadt the correct colour.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%2097.jpg)
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A masterpiece in it self, grand!
Paddy
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Des, this is now starting to look the 'dogs danglies', stunning build.
Cheers
Pete.
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Des,
The Salmson is a real gem my friend. You're quite the machinist as well as a talented modeler.If you ever deside to produce more of these little beauties put me down for one. I'm debating an attempt at scratch building a Salmson later on.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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"Please bear in mind that this is my first ever scratch build."
C'mon, Des: who in the entire known universe do you think you're kidding?? ;D Based on what we see in this thread, you've probably been scratchbuilding since...oh, I don't know...the age of two! At least, that's the lead I'd need to turn out something like this. What a build! Superb so far, and I'm really keen to see how you build, attach and rig the wings! Good luck, bon chance, und gluck auf!
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Hi Des,
Beautiful work so far, I have been following this on your website and am waiting eagerly for the next installment.
Best regards
Keith
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Very painstaking detail, great build.
Regards :)
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The engine is now completed. I added the nine spark plugs and ignition leads and wired them up to the magneto, added some more plumbing and I also fitted the 18 valve springs. These are a torsion type spring, hard to see in the photos, but they were easy to make but a little difficult to fit. The two radiators are also fitted and have had the plumbing connected to them, I still need to add hose clamps.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%20102.jpg)
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Des great work mate ! I'd be really interested to see a photo of the model up against something to show size comparison. I scratchbuild all of my Auto and motorcycle models from Brass acrylic and Wood stocks to 1/5th and 1/8th scales but this is 1/32 it's a real credit to you that you get everything so accurate.
Sean
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Wow. Lovely stuff so far!
Watching this one with interest!
D.
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I just realized that I have been watching this but hadnt commented...so - Amazing - This is a very fine example of miniature engineering. It looks like the shopping buggy from Hell right now but its still awesome!!!!!
Steve
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Apparently, back in it's day it had the nickname Baby's Pram or Baby's Carriage, it certainly is a strange looking undercarriage arrangement.
Des.
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I can't understand why this beauty has remained fallow for so long Des. ???
You'd almost think that other things have been occupying your time. ;D ;D ;D
Cheers,
Chris
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Every time I take a look at these pictures, I just have the urge to drop everything and get back to scratchbuilding (something I´ve not done in the past 3 years).
Anyway, I don´t get tired of saying it... Excellent work, Des!... And above all, many thanks for taking so much detailed photos, and for explaining all the steps involved. :)
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Every time I take a look at these pictures, I just have the urge to drop everything and get back to scratchbuilding (something I´ve not done in the past 3 years).
Anyway, I don´t get tired of saying it... Excellent work, Des!... And above all, many thanks for taking so much detailed photos, and for explaining all the steps involved. :)
Funny, every time I look at these pictures, I have the desire to take up Needle Point ;D
RAGIII
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Just a small update. I have made and added the wing support frames, these are made from brass tube and have metal pins to locate the top wing. The top wing is quite weightly, and long, so the brass tubes will hold it very well.
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Des:
Your Voisin 3 is superb...an excellent example of the fine art of scratchbuilding. The mix of metal work and plastic is terrific, and shows us all what we need to shoot for.
Will your Voisin be in French livery, Russian, or another air arm?
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I am still undecided as to what scheme to use, I will have to make up my mind pretty soon though.
The wings on the Voisin are long and thin, so the making of these have had me a little worried. I decided to go with 3.0mm plastic card, the varying thickness across the wings was achieved by scrapping with a sharp Stanley Knife blade, final clean up was with fine wet and dry paper. I needed to shape the wings to an aerofoil shape so I made a jig using bits of material I had in my shed. Once the shape was achieved I pour a jug full of boiling water over the wing making sure it hit all parts of the wing, this was immediately followed by cold water. Once the clamps were removed the wings retained their shape.
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Beautiful engineering and craftsmanship Des. What a jewel! She’s fast approaching becoming a crown jewel. :)
Paddy
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Des,
I love the "Notes to Self" on the plans! I do the same
thing but, tend to forget what they refer to! ;D
Jim
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You know what I love about Des' updates? Other than excellent detail, stunning craftsmanship, and on and on...
Everything is in metric! Makes this Canadian's heart swell. Cheers to all my Commonwealth brethren. Apologies to my American friends...
Excellent work, Des, but I'm sure you get sick on hearing that... ;)
Lindsay
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Give us 2.54cm we take 1.61 k.......
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Hi Des,
very, very,very excelent. Super works with all media, plastic, wire, brass etc. Very nice wood. Please do you have on your web any detailed instructions on wood? It is best wood.
Cheers,
Vladimir
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Thanks very much for all the kind comments, they are much appreciated.
I used 0.5mm plastic card cut to 1.0mm strips, these were glued onto the top and bottom surface of the wing, once dry they were sanded down to half their thickness. I applied filler to each side of the ribs building up the layers after each application was dry, a light sanding between layers kept everything nice and even. The final layer was enough to allow me to achieve the scallops between each rib giving the stretched fabric appearance, the wings are nearly ready for the final top coat.
Note: to cut the strips for the ribs I used a paper cutting guillotine, it slices the plastic card very cleanly.
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Are you going to pin those in? They look great and in scale but man theyre thin and long.
Steve
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Yes Steve, they will have a pin at both leading and trailing edges plus another pin joining the two wings, the two bottom wings are also pinned front and back plus they will be glued to the fuselage. The wings are thin and long so will need plenty of support.
Des.
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I trial fitted the bottom wings, to do this I drilled 0.9mm holes 10.0mm deep into the wing root, one at the leading edge and another near the trailing edge, these had to be drilled dead straight as the wing thickness was not great. The wings shown here are not glued, they are only being supported by the pins.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%20124.jpg)
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%20125.jpg)
These two photos show one of the top wings sitting in position, it locates well on the pins I fitted to the frame work.
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Keep going, Des!
You're creating a scratch built jewel ;)
BVB
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....You're creating a scratch built jewel....
Absolutely!! :)
Andrew
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Thats amazing. How did you keep the holes straight for a full cm?!! I d have the wings looking like swiss cheese. Very nice!!
Steve
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Hi Des:
I can only echo the praise already recorded in this thread as I can't adequately express my admiration for your corking achievements on this beautiful build.
Steve :)
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I've been looking forward to seeing you get back to work on this beauty Des. It's really starting to look like an airplane now.
Cheers,
Chris
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I`m your fan mate;) It looks great keep it up!
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Beautiful work, Sir!
Great to see this one still on the move!
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Fantastic work.....
Vladimir
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Why is it that what little confidence I have in my few modelling skills wilts noticeably whenever I visit one of Des' construction threads? Especially a scratchbuilding thread? He must be a master machinist, graphic designer, cabinet maker and all-round highly qualified wizard to do work like this. God help us if he ever starts to sell boxes of his talent. My bank account would never survive the onslaught. Excellent work, Des! We mere modelling mortals salute you! ;D
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Des,
this continues to be one of the most incredible builds I have ever seen unfold!
RAGIII
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Thank you for all the very kind comments, they are much appreciated.
I have now painted the wings and sprayed them with a satin clear coat. These photos show the wings just sitting in position, they are held by the pins only, no glue, so my wing mounting system is working well, this will ease the strain on the rigging. I fitted the two outboard struts just to keep the distance between the wings equal. Not visible here but I had fitted the rigging anchor points to the fuselage, there are 18 in total, next job is to fit all the one ended turnbuckles to the wings, there are dozens of them. Once these are fitted the wings will be fitted permanently.
Des.
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Des,
Outstanding my old friend.I can hardly wait to see her with the booms installed.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Wonderful, wonderful work. It doesn't get any better than this. What a privilege to be able to follow along.
Paddy
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Wonderful, wonderful work. It doesn't get any better than this. What a privilege to be able to follow along.
Paddy
I second that!
A beauty and no mistake ;) ;) ;)
BVB
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Exquisite workmanship Des!
Cheers,
Chris
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Amazing as it all starts to tie together.
Steve
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Hi Des,
very professional, first class...
Cheers,
Vladimir
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Damn, Sir!
That is simply beautiful.
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Des,
Absolutely beautiful work and one that will no doubt remain unique/one of a kind in our area of interest. You've brought the best of so many disciplins together here, metal work, plastic manipulation, and the art of scratch building in multi media.
Very nice and I, along with all the others, am impressed beyond words.
Cheers,
Lance
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I would like to thank everyone for their very kind comments regarding my Voisin build, it has been a fairly slow process but advances are being made.
I have now fixed the bottom wings to the airframe, I also fitted 54 one ended turnbuckles to the bottom wings ready for the rigging. I will have to leave the model set aside for 24 hours to allow the glue to set fully before I move the model again. I now have to fit the eyelets to the underside of the top wings which there will be a heap, so that means drilling many holes, I use a 0.4mm drill bit to accept the 0.13mm twisted copper wire eyelets and CA holds them in place very well. I will have some more photos in a few days.
Des.
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... I also fitted 54 one ended turnbuckles to the bottom wings ready for the rigging. I will have to leave the model set aside for 24 hours to allow the glue to set fully before I move the model again.
And no doubt to allow your eyeballs to readjust themselves after all that turnbuckle work. ;D
Cheers,
Chris
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... but advances are being made... I will have some more photos in a few days.
Can´t wait to see them! :)
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she looks great with the wings on des. so are you gonna do strictly scratchbuilding from now on orflip flop with kits too? whats the next modelling project?
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No plans yet on my next project, it depends on what happens with Wingnuts over the next few months, but for the time being I will concentrate on finishing the Voisin. Once the wings are on and the rigging completed the rest of the build should be fairly straight forward, I use the word "should" very tentatively here.
Des.
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The bottom wings are now fixed in position, I used plastic glue where the wings touch the fuselage and CA on the pins, the wings ended up level with no support. These pictures show the struts just loosely mounted, they are a simple round section made from 1.3mm brass tube with a 0.9mm brass tube running through the centre, also visible are the single ended turnbuckles which have been fitted to the wings. I am quite happy with the way the scallops ended up between the wing ribs.
Des.
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Des,
She's looking awesome my old friend. Are the army of rigging spiders ready to go?
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Thanks Gregory. My eyes are still getting over making the 150 turnbuckles I will need for this model, then drilling a million 0.4mm holes to take the buckles and eyelets, then gluing them in position, all I see now are images of turnbuckles even in my sleep. :( :( :(
Des.
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Beats counting sheep.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Hey! This is your favorite part, mate. Remember? She's looking absolutely amazing. This is your most impressive build to date. Glad to see her progressing so well.
Cheers,
Bud
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Exquisite work Des. You must have the patience of a saint my friend. How you manage to complete such clean and precise work is beyond me. I'm beginning to think that your hands must be 1/32 scale. ;D
Looking forward to seeing more!
Cheers,
Chris
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This aircraft has the unusual rigging arrangement of cross bracing on the underside of the top wings, I did this with 0.12mm monofilament connected to eyelets fixed to the wings, each line also had turnbuckles. This rigging had to be completed before the wings could be fixed to the airframe. There are 33 eyelets fitted to the bottom of each top wing, so that will amount to a lot of rigging.
The overhead lighting has changed the colour of one wing ???
Des.
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The top wings mounted very easy, the mounting pins proved adequate to support the wings and after the addition of the glue the wings held their own weight without added support. The struts are also fitted, the protruding strut ends will be trimmed after the fixing nuts are fitted. The rigging has commenced, again I am using 0.12mm Maxima Chameleon fishing line, once each line is fitted they are painted with Mr Metal Color Stainless, all rigging and turnbuckles are fixed with CA (super glue). All I have done so far is the forward rigging on the two inboard bays, this took all day.
Des.
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This only gets better Des, simply stunning rigging work here...
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Your a true inspiration Des - this is a true work of art!!
Andrew
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I have been asked to give a size comparison of the Voisin, so here it is compared to a WnW Albatros, the wingspan difference is quite obvious but the height of the two aircraft is pretty much the same.
Des.
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Des,
Your Voisin III sure makes the Albatros appear down right tiny. Looking forward to your next awesome update my old friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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That is one big span. Happy continued rigging, its spectacular so far.
Steve
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A truly magnificent build Des I look forward to it's completion.
Best Regards
tonyb
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Oh, my, Des! That is a lot of rigging! You're doing a masterful job of it, though, as usual. When I saw the photo of your work area (very nice, by the way) and saw this lovely bus sitting on your desk, I was compelled to pull out my 1/48 High-Tech Voisin kit and take a look at it. I was very tempted to get her started by this brilliant project of yours. That underwing rigging has given me pause, though. Whew! That's a lot of turn-buckling, mate.
The size comparison is interesting, too. Yeah, the wingspan's huge, but the nacelle is tiny compared to the Albatros fuselage. Such a vast difference in design. Very cool.
Cheers,
Bud
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Wonderful Des! It's really a joy to follow your progress.
Paddy
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This is coming along wonderfully, Sir!
Reference quality stuff.
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Des,
HOLY YOU KNOW WHAT!! :o :o :o
I was pleased I squeaked by basically using your tutorial with slight modification on my 48th Roden Bristfit.
Your Voisin is true modeling at its best. I so look forward to seeing your posts on this great plane.
Cheers,
Dan
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What they've all said, what we've said before, what we'll probably keep right on saying for ever and ever, amen: "You da Man!!" Excellent work, Des! ;D
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Knowing how you like to rig, and with the amount of rigging I'm seeing just between the wings, now I know why you chose this project as your first scratch building project. The rigging sure does bring the aeroplane to life.
Superb engineering and workmanship Des!
Cheers,
Chris
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Can´t wait for the next episodes... :)
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A beauty of a build ;)
Thanks for the inspiration, Des :)
BVB
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all i can say is wow!
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Don't know how I missed this, superb work Des
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I managed to complete most of the wing rigging, I used 0.12mm Maxima Chameleon fishing line which I have painted with Mr Metal Color Stainless. The struts still need painting and all the control wires need adding. The wing assembly turned out to be very strong and rigid, these photos show were I am up to at present.
Des.
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What intricate, clean work Des. Each step is a joy to see as she builds toward completion.
Outstanding! "Ten thumbs up"
Paddy :)
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Outstanding job with the rigging as usual, Des. I don't envy you painting all those struts with the rigging in place. I'd botch it for sure, but I know it will look pristine when you're done.
Cheers,
Bud
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Des,
Old friend the Voisin just gets more amazing with each new update. Her rigging to this point outstanding and expertly done. Looking forward to the next update and the tail booms.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Amazing work!! One question though. Does it even fit through the door of the work room length wise? ;)
Steve
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Des,
Pretty to watch, and absolutely impressive from "tip to tip". Keep those updates coming.
Cheers,
Lance
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Amazing work Des. I look at your rigging . . . then at my S.E.5a rigging . . . back to yours . . . sigh . . .
Cheers,
Chris
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Des, Just plain Stunning! Brilliant modeling and your rigging is perfect as always! You are certainly amongst the WW1 Master Class!!!!!!
RAGIII
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Slowly getting better... and better! :)
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Des, Just plain Stunning! Brilliant modeling and your rigging is perfect as always! You are certainly amongst the WW1 Master Class!!!!!!
RAGIII
Absolutely!!
If you ever do scratch build an Etrich Taube Des it will be immaculate!!
Andrew
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If I keep looking in on projects like this, I may just have to take a stab at a scratched Fokker D.VII. Real nice job so far, I'm learning all kinds of stuff.
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All. A question for the floor. Des, you mentioned colouring the rigging. Do you do that before or after rigging the plane? Im guessing after but just wondering.
Steve
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Hi Steve and thanks for the question. I paint each rigging line after it is fitted, it is easier to paint the lines as you progress through the rigging stage. It is important to cover the wings before painting the rigging, if you use Mr Metal Colour paints which are lacquer and very thin, splatters from the brush can sometimes happen, I usually cut a piece of paper to fit between the struts.
Des.
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Thanks Des. I imagine on this one there was a fair amount of different approaches to get in at all of them!!
Steve
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Yes Steve, I had to approach the rigging painting quite differently on this one, I had to make sure I didn't get the paint brush tangled up with the lines.
I made the tail booms from 1.2mm brass tube, the uprights are from 0.9mm brass tube with 0.6mm brass tube running through the centre. I drilled holes through the booms to allow the uprights to be fitted, everything is held together with CA which bonds to brass extremely well.
Des.
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Hi Des.
Wouldn´t soldering be a better option than CA? Have you considered it? I´ve had bad experiences in the past using CA to hold brass tubes together. While at the beginning they tend to hold it quite well, after sometime, and due to stress and handling they sometimes loose grip, and end up separating.
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Hi Des Jose is right I work with Brass on a daily basis, I'm no expert just talking from experience.
CA will hold the brass very nicely over a short period of time. But over a long period of time the CA will become brittle and let go. The CA isn't actually welding the joints as Solder would. I'm by no means trying to tell you what to do it just concerns me that you have put so much work into this beautiful model to think what could happen latter.
Sean
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Thanks Jose for your comments. I have considered soldering but with such small section brass tube it would be a little messy. All the joints I do are drilled and pinned so with the CA it is a very positive and strong bond, and once the rigging is fitted it becomes even stronger. I have never had a problem with CA letting go, for these types of jobs I use the extra strong CA. The top wing mounting frames are soldered because I needed a very strong assemly, and now with the wings mounted, the struts in place, the rigging done I can pick the model up by the wing tip and there is no movement at all in the wings, this would have to be the most rigid model I have ever built. I have probably over engineered the whole model but I wanted it to be strong because of the size of the wings and the pram like undercarriage.
Des.
Sean, I just got your comment as I was replying to Jose. Again, thanks for your thoughts and I have taken note. I have been using CA now for over three years and not had a problem, when you say it will become brittle over a period of time, what time span are we talking?
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Hi Des about 4 to 5 years and also depends on climate and how well the surface of the joining parts were cleaned. I would recomend using a good automotive thinner for cleaning the surface and roughing the surface with emery paper will also help conciderably to give a tooth (bite for the glue to bond to).
Also Des not sure if you use it but avoid using that cheap Super glue in the black tube found in cheap shops. Its fine for bonding plastic surfaces and very tiny metal parts but not larger areas or areas that will need to take load.
Sorry for the drawn out explanaition!! :o
Sean
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... I have probably over engineered the whole model but I wanted it to be strong because of the size of the wings and the pram like undercarriage...
If there´s one thing that I´ve learned on my scratchbuilding experiences, is that there is no thing as "over engineering"!
It pays to think ahead and take extra actions to avoid disaster, at later stages.
Anyway, I like very much the way you approach your build. Like I´ve said countless times before... Keep up the excellent job! :)
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Not drawn out at all Sean, it is always great to get a step by step for any techniques we use in our modeling, it helps everyone. I clean all the parts to be glued thoroughly before applying any glue, and a light rub with some wet and dry paper takes the shine off which helps the glue to grab, using the industrial grade super glue is a must when making assemblies which require high strength.
Des.
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Des,
The tailbooms look awesome my old friend. I'm looking forward to seeing it all come together. She's the most prefect example of your Master level craftsmanship and skills to date.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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I've been looking forward to seeing how you tackle the tail boom Des. In my own mind, the task seems fraught with difficulties when considering how to anchor the rigging in brass tubing. However, I have no doubt that you've already thought this through and engineered a solution. You'll probably make it look like child's play, which will encourage me to try to emulate your technique with Roden's DH-2 boom, undoubtedly with disasterous results! ;D
Cheers,
Chris
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Thanks guys for all the nice comments.
Chris - The rigging attachments for the tail booms are quite different to an ''ordinary'' pusher. As with the wings, the tail booms had a circular metal plate which was fitted over the upright sections of the tail boom assembly, these had a series of holes around the plate which took the rigging cables. I used 0.3mm plastic sheet, first I punched a 0.96mm holes, then centring (centering) this in my punch set I punched out a 2.5mm disc, this left roughly 0.75mm of material. I then drilled six 0.3mm holes equally spaced around the disc making sure they were centred (centered) in the remaining material. A disc was then placed over each upright at the top and bottom, these will now give an anchor point for the rigging cables. Each rigging line has a turnbuckle, so there will be a heap of them to make and fit. Keeping the correct tension on the cables is crucial, if one line is slightly too tight it will pull the boom assembly out of shape, so I will attempt to rig both sides at the same time keeping the tension equal.
I hope to have some more photos in the next day or two.
Des.
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Des,
My old friend I can hardly wait. I'm prepared to be amazed.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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I have completed most of the tail boom rigging, still have to do the bottom runs. There are turnbuckles on each individual line so that means a heap of turnbuckles. I used 0.12mm Maxima Chameleon monofilament for the rigging, once fitted it was painted with Mr Metal Color Stainless. To keep the booms straight, before rigging comenced I glued two 1mm steel rods spanning the booms near the uprights, after I fixed all the rigging I then removed the rods, the booms remained dead straight, I will do the same for the bottom booms. The photos give a good indication of the amount of rigging on this aeroplane, there is still to be added all the control line rigging for the rudder and elevators.
Des.
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Wow.. My gob is perpetually smacked with this build! A masterpiece Des, no mistake. Almost will be a shame to paint the booms, they look stunning as they are.
I can see why you prefer not to weather your models. :)
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And what he said :o :o :o that is amazing Des what more can I say!!
Sean
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Looks like a spider´s web... Des has his own army of spiders, for sure... ;D
Magnificient work!
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Stunning!!!! Your patience would make me a patient.......
Steve
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Des,
Well my old friend yesterday I said I was prepared to be amazed. Today I am truly amazed with your rigging abilities and your craftsmanship in total. Outstanding Master Level work Des. One question though do you have a rough idea of the number of hours it took to rig your Voisin so far?
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Stunning work here Des! It’s good to hear that those temporary braces work to keep everything square and taut. Now that you’ve broken trail on that technique, I won’t be nervous about using it in my eventual DH-2 and Fee builds. Your rigging mounts look very professionally done and certainly add an element of interest to the aeroplane.
By the time you’re finished this masterpiece, the amount of rigging you’ll have installed will put a DH-2 or Fee to shame. I found that the tip of a soldering iron worked quite well for me in tightening one of my S.E.5a lines too. It’s good to see that you didn’t allow the barrel of the iron touch anything like I managed to do. :P I think you probably have just a wee bit more dexterity than I do. ;D ;D Even though I managed to fumble the ball a bit with the soldering iron first time around, I think it gives me an even, steady heat and more control where I apply it, so I plan on using it from here-on in on my builds.
This aeroplane is really starting to take shape now and I'm looking forward to future updates.
Cheers,
Chris
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That's some mighty fine work Des!!
I'm with Steve - I'd be a patient by now :D
Andrew
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Wow! I can't believe the work you do. It looks amazing!
Sean
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I....Don't......know......what......to......say.... :-\ :-\
Brain on overload :o :o :o :o :o
Geez that's lovely, Des. Nothing more to say!
Dan
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Des you are the King of Rigging. Faultless work and eye candy for the rest of us. Beeyutafool 8)
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What an extraordinary gift you have Des. A marvelous creation and each step is a pleasure to see and read about as we follow along.
Paddy :)
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I would like to thank everyone for their very kind comments, they are much appreciated.
Gregory - it is hard to put a figure on the time I have spent doing the rigging, it is not a job that can be tackled in one go as it is very tedious, hard on the eyes and back, so I need to take plenty of breaks. Add to this the inclusion of turnbuckles, there are 28 just on the tail booms and it takes time to fit each one. As a rough estimate I would say I spent about 12 - 15 hours doing the wings and 5 - 6 hours doing the tail booms, I still need to add all the rigging under the bottom wings which will include another 12 turnbuckles, then there is the control rigging for the rudder and elevators, luckily for me I love doing rigging, it is my favorite part of building these WW1 aircraft models.
Des.
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20 hours! That amount and nowhere near that standard of rigging would take me 20 days at least!!!
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Des, it is first class... very impresive works with plastic, wires and other materials. For me, number one.
Cheers,
Vladimir
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Des,
Every time I look it just keeps getting better..........Masterful!!
Cheers,
Lance
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wow. whats next? 1/32 scratched taube?
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wow. whats next? 1/32 scratched taube?
We're hoping ;)
Andrew
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Des, I can see I've missed a lot by taking so long to find your site! I really can't add anything to what's already been said - this makes my little Bleriot look like a child's toy! Having said that, I was thinking of making my next project the Flashback Voisin III - I think I'll step back and catch my breath first...rigging that in 1:72 will be a big challenge, but this build will certainly be a fantastic reference!
Ian
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wow. whats next? 1/32 scratched taube?
That would be my guess.
Cheers,
Chris
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Scratch building the Taube in 1:32 scale has been on my mind for quite a while, I will think about it a bit longer. :-\
I have taken a few small steps with the Voisin, I completed the tail boom rigging and applied the wing decals. I drew the decals with my drawing program and printed them out with my ink jet printer onto white water slide decal paper, they were then sprayed with clear lacquer. I serarated the part of the decal which goes on the ailerons, this made applying the decals very easy, they still need to be clear coated.
Des.
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Beautiful result Des the Decals look like they went down really nicely.
Sean
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Yes Sean, the decals did go down well. I coated the surface with Mr Mark Softer first, then after patting the decals down I applied heat from a hair dryer, this really makes the decals hug the surface, I will give them a spray of clear tomorrow.
Des.
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Des, what settings/paper do you use to print your decals? I have great trouble getting them even, with no streaks or blotches when I print.
Ian
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Excellent results.
Steve
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Your decals look very good Des. What did you cut them out with?
Cheers,
Chris
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IanB - The only thing I change on my printer when printing decals is to select the highest quality print setting and print at 600dpi. The paper is a white water slide decal paper I purchased from a copier company here in Australia, I tried to contact the company yesterday to get some more paper but they appear to be out of business, someone once told me that the Testors decal paper is excellent. Once I have printed the decals I leave them for at least four hours before spraying them with a coat of clear lacquer.
Chris - Here are some pictures of how I modified my compass to cut the decals, it is quite simple, there is a full description on my website in the Voisin build.
http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/page33.html
Des.
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Great Des. Thanks very much for that. I've been wondering what to do
with my old K&E set of drafting tools. Now, if I can just find them........ ::)
Paddy :)
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I have a circle cutter which does the same as your compasses Des. It looks like a miniature adjustable wrench, with a blade fixed at one end and the pointer adjustable along the length of the tool, along a scale to produce circles of specific radius. You have yet again come up with a homegrown method that works perfectly Des :)
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Thanks Des,
Do you set your printer for normal or glossy paper? The first time I printed decals they came out fine, but I haven't been able to reproduce roundels since then without them being blotchy.
Ian
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Hi Ian,
My printer is a HP Photosmart C4385. For printing the decals the only changes I made was to select highest quality and 600dpi, I have gone as high as 1200dpi but I couldn't notice any difference. I also did a few diagnostic checks by first;
Align print cartridges
Clean print cartridges
Calibrate colour
Print quality Calibration
This makes sure that everything is running correctly with my printer and that colour calibration is where it should be. Every printer operates at different settings so to compare one brand to another is a little difficult.
As far as normal or gloss paper, my printer is set for plain paper, I did at one stage select photo paper but it didn't make any diference to the quality of print, just used heaps more ink. It is important to check your own printer manual and go through the settings available, experimentation might the the key role here. It took me a little while to get my setting right but now that it prints okay I don't touch it. I have a continuous inking system on my printer so I never have to change or refill the cartridges, printing costs are cut by 90%.
Des.
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I have added bomb racks and bombs to the sides of the Voisin. The racks are made from 0.5mm plastic card and were made to suit the bombs which are left over from previous builds, they are pretty close to the correct size and shape. I add 0.5mm brass tube to the nose of the bombs. I painted the bombs with Gunze off white, the tubes are done with Mr Metal Color Stainless and the red band is Humbrol Ferrari red. The racks are painted with Gunze Light Brown. Once all the paint has dried I will fix the bombs to the racks and the racks to the fuselage. Having the racks located where they are would certainly make it difficult for the crew to board the aircraft.
Des.
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Immaculate as always Des ;)
How did the crew get in? was there a ladder or foot rungs/hand holds?
Andrew
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Thanks Andrew. There were foot steps on the two undercarriage tubes which run fore and aft from the centre of the fuselage, I have yet to add these, from all the photos I have seen there were no hand holds.
Des.
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Nice bomb racks... these are the details that make your build stand out even more! :)
IMO the bombs were probably loaded only after the crew got on board (as seen in so many other period pics)... that would make sense.
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The final details are really bringing this one to life!!!
Steve
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Hi Des,
it is very, very, very cool. Best works with multimedia materials.
Cheers,
Vladimir
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Des,
Your Voisin is magnificent!
Tim
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It just keeps getting better and better Des.
Cheers,
Chris
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I have completed the under wing rigging and most of the control rigging. The exposed cross bracing on the under side of the bottom wing required a turnbuckle on each individual line, the same as under the top wing. The rudder and elevator control cables run through a triple pulley, I needed to make four of these pulleys, two are mounted under the fuselage and one each on the bottom tail booms. All this rigging is on the underside of the plane so very little of it will be seen once it is back on it's wheels.
Des.
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A spiders web if ever I saw one. Truly awesome work, Des :)
Give that man a drink! ;)
BVB
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Such a beauty!!! :)
It´s simply amazing... simply, amazing!
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Des,
Congratulations you've some very well trained rigging spiders mu old friend. Awesome rigging!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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This is incredible Des. I've never seen such complex rigging, not to mention such a fine, meticulous, job of it. I'm blown away by your craftsmanship. Please tell us how you made the pulleys as they look every inch the part.
Cheers,
Chris
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The control cable rigging with the pulleys etc is so cool and your fantastic craftsmanship lets us see and grasp how the thing actually worked. And not even just grasp, but get excited about in all its crazy rube goldberg wonder. Marvelous.
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Des, those pulleys are outstanding and meticulous - I'll echo Chris' request for a 'how to' please.
Also, I noticed rigging lines going into the wheel hub, these birds must have been quite sturdily braced.
Andrew
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I have a full description on how I made the pulleys on my website, please go here;
http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/page26.html
Here is a picture of the triple pulley that I give a build description of on my website.
Des.
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Beautiful! Des, each piece that you create is a thing of beauty. Infinite "Thumbs Up".
Paddy
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I am truly sorry that those triple pulleys will be hidden from sight. Maybe when my skills have progressed enough I'll order the "Delatorre 1:32 Voisin Triple Pulley" kit, and do a diorama of just the pulleys and some cable. A winner everywhere!
Great job.
Lindsay
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Thanks for sharing your meticulous work and how to's Des, amazing stuff!
Andrew
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And I thought my Fee was a challenge to rig ! :o Very nice work Des
Sean
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Des! Something's wrong with my notification, mate! :( Gonna have to have a word with the administrator. ;) I haven't gotten a notification on this thread since May 26, so I was wondering if any progress had been made. I went to your wesite and lo and behold, you're almost finished. I'm sorry that I missed so much, but really glad to see that you've gotten so much done. Des, she's breathtaking. I knew she was going to be brilliant, but this is beyond what I could have imagined. This is master modeling at it's finest. I looks like you've been scratch building all you life. Truly amazing stuff, my friend.
Cheers,
Bud
PS- Do you know what happened to the notifications ?
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Thanks very much for all the wonderful comments, they are much appreciated.
I made the rudder from three layers of 0.5mm plastic card then sanded it to shape, the ribs are 0.5mm x 1.0mm strips glued to the rudder, filler was applied to the sides of the ribes then sanded back. I painted the rudder gloss white then added the red and blue stripes, the serial number decals are home made, the entire rudder has been sprayed with a matt clear. The propeller has also been painted and fitted.
Des.
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That really is an impressive level of detailing, quite an eye opener to see what's possible when scratch making a model!
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Des,
Of all your quality builds would you say this project has been the most rewarding?
BVB ;)
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Yes Bob, this build has certainly been the most rewarding.
I was very hesitant to do a scratch build, I believed that having to make just about every part would be too big a challenge and would take way too much time. The most difficult task was sourcing information on the aircraft, there were plenty of photos to be had but very very little in the way of component dimensions, the Windsock Datafile helped but was still lacking in crucial information concerning dimensions.
I must say though that I have thoroughly enjoyed building this model, in a lot of ways it has been a real learning curve for me and has given me a lot of confidence to attack another scratch build, I have gained a lot of knowledge which can now be used in kit building as well.
Once completed, the Voisin will take pride and place among my other models.
Des.
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Once completed, the Voisin will take pride and place among my other models.
Des.
And so it should - this is exceptional faultless work from a master craftsman.
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What Ian said.
Is a Taube next?
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The rudder looks fantastic, Des. You did a great job on the serial decal. Your in the home stretch now, mate. What a brilliant addition to your collection. I would love to see you do a scratched Breguet 14. It's got a boxy fuselage and straight, flat wings. Ideal for a scratch project.
Cheers,
Bud
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Superb craftsmanship Des. Are you down to the final details now?
Cheers,
Chris
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i havent checked in for a few weeks and all i can say is "holy shit. you're the man des."
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These photos show the underside of the tail plane with the rigging attached. There is the unusual arrangement of two long springs connected to the trailing edge of the elevators then connected to the lower end of the rudder shaft, the exact purpose of this is a bit confusing as the elevator control horns have two cables attached for the up and down movement. The next post will show the completed model photos.
Des.
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This next photo shows the top side of the tail plane with all the rigging attached. These are turnbuckles on top of the rudder post which take the tail plane rigging wires. There was very little area to attach the tail planes to the rudder post, all that is holding them on is a 0.5mm steel pin, the remainder of the strength comes from the rigging and control lines.
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Incredible craftsmanship Des. Words escape me.
Cheers,
Chris
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Stunning work as always Des, brilliant job on the rigging and everything else as well.
Cheers
Pete.
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Des, this is without a doubt the most spectacular build I've seen on these pages or any other. Outstandin work, mate. I'm awe-struck.
Cheers,
Bud
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Here are photos of the completed model, finally. I am very pleased with the way it turned out being my first scratch build, but I did thoroughly enjoy the experience and will, in the furture, build more scratch built models.
Des.
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Absolutely first class Des, my first thought was "unprintable!". It makes my 1:72 Flashback Voisin VERY daunting.......
Ian
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Just incredible! You must be very proud, as well you should. My most sincere congratulations.
Lindsay
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Wahoo Des! Stand tall and be proud. It looks brilliant. Now you need to find a totally dust-free display case to put it in.
Thanks for sharing with us all.
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Damn, I forgot the steps, I will rectify this little error tonight, thanks for pointing it out TRB.
Des.
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Des, I don't know what to say, mate. She's phenomenal. Jamo's right. You've got to keep her dust free. Could you post photos of her with one of you other models so we could get a size comparison?
Cheers,
Bud
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An awesome scratchbuilt model...
Congratulations! :)
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Simply spectacular modelmaking Des, you have shown us how a masterpiece can be created from scratch and your Voisin should be an inspiration to all of us to achieve the best from our own modelling efforts. The rigging work alone is quite breathtaking. You have however now set the bar quite high for yourself- what will you scratch build next to top this one? :)
Extra thanks to you for the detailed build log on your website to help guide others through the scratch building process.
Kind regards
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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I can only echo what Dave has said here Des. This is craftsmanship of the highest order. You've joined a very exclusive club, of which there can only be a few members, with this superb example of engineering and master model building.
My suggestion would be to store the model in one of those clear plastic storage containers that come in various sizes. It would ensure a dust free environment, and it would prevent the possibility of any damage occurring to it. I use stackable 'Sterilite' storage containers from Walmart for my aircraft models.
Cheers,
Chris
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Des,
Congratulations my old friend on completing an outstanding scratch building project. Truly Master Class Level work from the beginning to end. Brillant construction, details,and above all else your rigging technique.
HIghest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Brilliant!!!
Steve
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Fantastic build Des
The detail is absolutley mind blowing
tonyb
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Verry nice bird you are showing here! congrats, sure inspyerd me to start a scratch build project.
Ron
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Holy Cow, Des...
Don't know what to say that hasn't been said already. A real treat.
And I don't think WNW will be coming out with one soon ;)
A true Tor "Des" Force. (I'm so clever... ;D)
Thanks for sharing and maintaining this great site.
Dan
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Very nice indeed Des, this model shows exceptional skill.
Best Regards
Keith.
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Wonderful Des. I join the rest of the group in their praise and admiration of such an outstanding project.
Well done indeed!
Paddy
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You are a master, a great appreciation for your work.
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Congratulations Des, looks great!
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Simply stunning, Des :o
Thanks for the inspiration.
BVB
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Des,
Hadn't checked on this one for a week or two...............MAGNIFICENT top to bottom, end to end and then some!
Congratulations on a spectacular build.
Cheers,
Lance
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I would like to thank all those who left very kind comments and to all those who took the time to look at my build. As i said earlier, this is not my last scratch build, I am now in the first stages of my next build, a scratch built 1:32 scale Jeannin-Taube. I now have 1:32 scale plans and will start construction very soon, this particular plane had the 100hp Mercedes D.1 engine, once work starts I will start a new build log.
Many thanks everyone for all your support throughout my Voisin build and also for all your support for the forum.
Des.
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Des,
I'll be really interested in how you go about doing the half covered
part of the wings. I have a Caudron G3 in CAD right now and I'm pondering
about how to go about it.
Jim
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Thanks Jim for your interest, like I said, I am only at the plan stage and have not looked into the building of the Taube yet, I will be spending the next few days studying the plans to see what I am up against. It will be a fairly large model, I didn't realise the Taube was such a big aeroplane, the 1:32 scale wing span is 433mm which is just shy of the Voisin wing span, and the length will be, from prop hub to tail, 302mm, so she will be a fair lump of a model.
Des.
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I would like to thank all those who left very kind comments and to all those who took the time to look at my build. As i said earlier, this is not my last scratch build, I am now in the first stages of my next build, a scratch built 1:32 scale Jeannin-Taube. I now have 1:32 scale plans and will start construction very soon, this particular plane had the 100hp Mercedes D.1 engine, once work starts I will start a new build log.
Many thanks everyone for all your support throughout my Voisin build and also for all your support for the forum.
Des.
Hi Des
There is a very good reference book on the restoration of the Jeannin Taube now in the Berlin Technical Museum which would be useful for your build. It is in German but is well illustrated. "Die Jeannin-Stahltaube A.180/14: Aus den Anfangen der Fliegerei in Johannisthal (Zeugen der Luftfahrtgeschichte)" I have a copy from when I built the Luedemann resin kit in 1/72 scale. If you would like to borrow the book send me a message with your address and I will mail it to you.
Cheers
James
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Excellent James, thank you very much, I have sent you a PM with my details.
Des.
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I see you've been bitten by the scratchbuild bug Des.
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the taube will be a challenge but yet fun. if anyone can do a wonderful taube in 1/32 its you. i actually thought about the same thing last year figuring it would make rigging easier in 1/32 and the wings as they are dont transfer well in i.m. plastic or resin. i was thinking i would do the wings in balsa covered in tissue. cuz as you i'mn sure know fromt the top the wings are fully fabric covered but from underneath half of the wooden ribs are exposed. should look lovely cant wait to see her.
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As usual I'm late - congrats Des on completing this truly superlative bird, absolutely superb craftmanship and truly inspiring!!
I would have gone nuts with the spiders web rigging and all those turnbuckles!
Looking forward to your next project with much anticipation.
Andrew
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Des,
This is me tipping in late as well. Given the exceptional results you produced on this build I'm really anticipating great things on your Taube. (I'm sure most of us figured you'd go that way from your earlier comments)
If someone can ensure a steady flow of good beer and peanuts I'll just sit back in my recliner and watch another work of the Modeller's Art come together! Looking forward to this immensely.
Cheers,
Lance
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What a wonderful model, Sir!
One of the very best I have ever seen.
Congratulations!
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Thanks everyone for your very kind comments.
Looking through my reference material I noticed quite a few photos of a small machine gun mounted on the top wing facing rearward. It was a two barrel gun which fired at an incredible rate of 1200 rounds per minute, muzzle velocity was low and the magazines only held 25 rounds each. I scrounged through my spares box and found enough parts to knock up someting that looke similar to the photos I have, I think it adds a bit of character to the plane and takes the bareness from the top wing.
Des.
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%20215.jpg)
(http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/voisin%20x%20216.jpg)
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Just got better, no doubt... :)
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Des,
Apologies for joining in late on this one -
Absolutely superb workmanship all round. I would not even think about taking on (I simply do not have the necessary skills/tools/equipment) a project like this. Well done!!!
Out of interest, the two barrel weapon you refer too appears to be the Italian 9mm Vilar Perosa considered to be the first sub machine ever made. A surprising choice as an anti aircraft weapon as I would not have thought a 9mm pistol cartridge would have had adequate striking power that a rifle cartridge fired from an automatic weapon would.
Best regards
Dave
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The MGs definitely add to the interest in the model Des and I always like seeing a figure in a photograph of a model as it gives the viewer a better idea of size.
Cheers,
Chris
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Excellent addition, Des, and the pilot is brilliant.
Cheers,
Bud
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Better late then never but: Congratulations on a very successful finish Des. Great workmanship and skill. One of the pinnacles of modelmaking in my opinion is scratchbuilding.