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Title: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: radio on January 01, 2015, 05:34:55 AM
Here is the end of the construction report from the resin build.
It concerns a resin kit of Copper State.
It is for my taste only for very advanced model farmer with extensive library. Also the konstruktion plan of WNW W12 is good to be of use.
Several parts are to be changed and to make many, in addition. Also the Lozenge is in addition to shop. For my version the suitable engine is not enclosed. He is to be made!
My build is the plane from Lt. Becht at Zeebrügge Station.
Martin

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p411/radio167/Great%20War/Brandenburg%20W%2012/120_zps8ec91f2c.jpg) (http://s346.photobucket.com/user/radio167/media/Great%20War/Brandenburg%20W%2012/120_zps8ec91f2c.jpg.html)

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p411/radio167/Great%20War/Brandenburg%20W%2012/121_zpsa3db0819.jpg) (http://s346.photobucket.com/user/radio167/media/Great%20War/Brandenburg%20W%2012/121_zpsa3db0819.jpg.html)

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(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p411/radio167/Great%20War/Brandenburg%20W%2012/124_zps6f5ef647.jpg) (http://s346.photobucket.com/user/radio167/media/Great%20War/Brandenburg%20W%2012/124_zps6f5ef647.jpg.html)

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p411/radio167/Great%20War/Brandenburg%20W%2012/126_zpsf1755731.jpg) (http://s346.photobucket.com/user/radio167/media/Great%20War/Brandenburg%20W%2012/126_zpsf1755731.jpg.html)

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(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p411/radio167/Great%20War/Brandenburg%20W%2012/128_zps78b6ab3b.jpg) (http://s346.photobucket.com/user/radio167/media/Great%20War/Brandenburg%20W%2012/128_zps78b6ab3b.jpg.html)

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p411/radio167/Great%20War/Brandenburg%20W%2012/129_zps9e8b45bb.jpg) (http://s346.photobucket.com/user/radio167/media/Great%20War/Brandenburg%20W%2012/129_zps9e8b45bb.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: RAGIII on January 01, 2015, 10:15:09 AM
Martin,
This came out very nice! You have done an awesome job on a very difficult( to those of us like me), kit! Thanks for sharing and looking forward to your next!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: lcarroll on January 01, 2015, 02:41:33 PM
Nicely done Martin. Makes me really look forward to doing my WNW version. It's a very unique aircraft, I think probably a "workhorse" that never really got a lot of recognition, and you've captured it well!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: radio on January 02, 2015, 03:56:10 AM
Thank you for your  compliments Rick and Lance.
Lance I think that the WNW  is easier to build.
Martin
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: coyotemagic on January 02, 2015, 06:36:59 AM
Beautiful job, Martin!  This maybe your best yet!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: Des on January 02, 2015, 08:04:01 AM
Well done Martin, through all the trials and tribulations you managed to produce a very nice looking model, this is testament to your modeling skills and determination.

Des.
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: radio on January 02, 2015, 09:05:01 AM
Thank you for your positive comments Bud and Des.
Martin
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: Nigel Jackson on January 02, 2015, 11:33:31 AM
Well done for getting through a difficult build to such good effect, Martin. I really like what you have achieved here and have thoroughly enjoyed reading about the process.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: radio on January 03, 2015, 02:28:20 AM
Thank you very much Nigel.
Martin
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: Ernie on January 03, 2015, 02:37:23 AM
Bravo Martin!  You have done an excellent job of I believe a difficult kit.
Marvelous talent shown, as usual, my friend. :D

Cheers, and Happy new year,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: radio on January 03, 2015, 03:57:20 AM
Thank you so much for your kindly words Ernie.
To all forum members and their families a happy and lucky new year.
Martin
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: coyotemagic on August 05, 2016, 02:03:28 AM
There have been quite a few W.12's built since this thread was started, so I think it's time for a reboot.  I just got back to work on my WNW W.12, but in the meantime, I'll kick things off with my rendition of the Copper State W.12.  This is the newer release with reworked masters and high quality resin.  Very nice kit, highly recommended.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.42.34_zpstks0k2xz.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.42.13_zpsbrnnvuqq.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.40.26_zpsmnh200vb.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.39.41_zpst5xtbp3w.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.38.00_zpssegkqgtw.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.37.19_zpsrct8fvvq.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.36.40_zps85akoray.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.35.44_zps8eko8keb.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.32.53_zpsnv7isxfz.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.32.15_zpsybsyx2dg.jpg)

So, let's get those W.12's back out and post 'em here, folks!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: RAGIII on August 08, 2016, 05:56:04 AM
Bud,
Your W12 is certainly a beauty! Another of your masterpieces in all aspects!
RAGIII

Bertl
Thanks for sharing this beautiful Prototype W12!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: lcarroll on August 08, 2016, 06:35:46 AM
    Bertl,
    That's an excellent model and the Base is really nicely done. I've bookmarked this one as the Base may have to be duplicated, it's really eye catching, thanks for passing it on.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: Pgtaylorart on August 09, 2016, 12:29:42 AM
Thanks for posting this, Bertl. That is the most unique and well executed W.12s that I've seen! Beautiful job all around and
the base adds the perfect final touch!

George
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: Der Phönix on August 09, 2016, 12:59:11 AM
I couldn't have said it better myself, George.

Bertl, your friend is to be congratulated.

DP
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: coyotemagic on August 19, 2016, 02:06:08 AM
Bud,
Your W12 is certainly a beauty! Another of your masterpieces in all aspects!
RAGIII

Bertl
Thanks for sharing this beautiful Prototype W12!
RAGIII
Thanks, Amigo!  Your support is always appreciated.

Bertl, thank you so much for posting our dear friend's remarkable W.12 Prototype.  Yes, the base is spectacular.  After all, he is a master woodworker.  But the work he did on the cowling and the other conversion bits are truly amazing.  So glad to see the final product.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: stefanbuss on August 19, 2016, 03:53:05 PM
Yes, Michael's W.12 prototype is a real beauty. The woodwork is especially impressive.

S.
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: cduckworth on March 20, 2017, 08:46:56 AM
There have been quite a few W.12's built since this thread was started, so I think it's time for a reboot.  I just got back to work on my WNW W.12, but in the meantime, I'll kick things off with my rendition of the Copper State W.12.  This is the newer release with reworked masters and high quality resin.  Very nice kit, highly recommended.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.42.34_zpstks0k2xz.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.42.13_zpsbrnnvuqq.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.40.26_zpsmnh200vb.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.39.41_zpst5xtbp3w.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.38.00_zpssegkqgtw.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.37.19_zpsrct8fvvq.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.36.40_zps85akoray.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.35.44_zps8eko8keb.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.32.53_zpsnv7isxfz.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-10-24%2010.32.15_zpsybsyx2dg.jpg)

So, let's get those W.12's back out and post 'em here, folks!
Cheers,
Bud

Bud
I have a question about the cockpit area; did you see need to drill out the bottom of the floor and replace with styrene?  and how about the cockpit walls did you thin these and if so what technique did you used?

Charlie
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: coyotemagic on March 20, 2017, 09:19:32 AM
Hi, Charlie.  I tried to locate the build log for this model, but it seems to have been removed and I have no idea as to why.  Here are a few of the photos of the process.  Lots of drilling, cutting, grinding, filing and so on.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-05-23%2011.29.13_zpsnkxkrfcd.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-05-23%2011.39.08_zpszam8pnv3.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-05-23%2019.38.31_zps77jhstqi.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-05-23%2019.40.04_zps7mwbslpz.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-06-04%2008.31.38_zpsismgk86v.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-06-10%2016.07.47_zpsc6qgq2ii.jpg)

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Copper%20State%20W12/2015-06-12%2009.48.40_zpsk1biobuo.jpg)

I hope these help.  It's really a great kit and loads of fun, in spite of all the work, or maybe because of it.   ;)
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: coyotemagic on March 20, 2017, 10:33:18 AM
She's a beauty, Steve!  You've done a remarkable job on her.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: cduckworth on March 20, 2017, 12:47:35 PM
Bud
Thanks for posting the inprogress build; you'll find me at the drill press tomorrow with the W.12 fuselage.
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: coyotemagic on March 20, 2017, 01:44:32 PM
Bud
Thanks for posting the inprogress build; you'll find me at the drill press tomorrow with the W.12 fuselage.
Go slow and keep the holes small, Charlie, otherwise the resin could split or shatter.  If you have one of the later releases, you should have no problem, but if you have one that Eric cast, be very careful.
Bonne chance!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: cduckworth on March 21, 2017, 12:32:20 AM
Bud
Where did you find the pattern for the interior wood bracing?
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: RAGIII on March 21, 2017, 12:32:49 AM
Charlie and Steve,
Outstanding W12s by both of you! Thanks for adding and starting the thread again!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: cduckworth on March 21, 2017, 02:14:08 AM

Go slow and keep the holes small, Charlie, otherwise the resin could split or shatter.  I
Cheers,
Bud


I bought the W.12 from France for $30 plus shipping so not a lot invested in it.  It must be an earlier release as the resin does split.  Don't ask how I know but the damage is easily repairable.    ;)
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: cduckworth on March 21, 2017, 04:39:28 AM
Steve and Bud
Thanks for the tips and construction photos.  I drilled out the large areas with a small drill bit and then switched over to a Dremel wood rasp and managed to carve out all the areas where I could switch to a hand file so have the cockpit completed at this stage.  Productive morning.....

Charlie 
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: coyotemagic on March 21, 2017, 04:57:45 AM
Bud
Where did you find the pattern for the interior wood bracing?
I used my WNW W.12 as a pattern, but if you don't have that, just go to the WNW website and click on instructions.  Dimensions won't be perfect, but close enough.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: cduckworth on March 21, 2017, 05:42:24 AM
Bud
Thanks for the reminder (about the W.12 construction book) just borrowed the screen shots of the cockpit framing. 

Charlie
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: coyotemagic on March 21, 2017, 06:24:01 AM
Have you started a build log on this one yet, Charlie?  I'd like to see it.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: cduckworth on March 21, 2017, 08:11:24 AM
Bud
I'll start taking some photos of the Copper State W.12 as I tackle it on the side.  I started a build on Britmodeler building my 1/48 AZ Gotha G.V and need to stay focused on it before I deep-dive into another kit.  All my future builds will be here.  I'm adding the loz decals now to it. 

I don't want either kit to take me 15 years to complete as the Roden Junker's D.I did.    :(

I wonder what happened to your build on the W.12; I looked for another build on a Nieuport this morning and it was also missing.

Charlie 

Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: dr 1 ace on March 21, 2017, 11:25:38 AM
Dittos to all the above on the latest ad to the thread !!

Ed
Title: Re: Show us your ... Brandenburg W 12
Post by: cduckworth on April 08, 2017, 07:00:27 AM
Someone remarked that the Copper State was a difficult built; I can certainly second that statement.  I've hollowed out the cockpit area, added much the interior using the WNW's instructions and Bud's build.  It's one of the most difficult kits I've tackled in several years.  Hopefully you'll see mine join this thread in a month or so.  My hat's off to those who've finished the Copper State model!