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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Vacform Kits => Topic started by: NinetythirdLiberator on August 27, 2014, 03:32:05 AM

Title: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on August 27, 2014, 03:32:05 AM
All,

Here is one I'm starting for a HS group build.  Loving vacs and this plane, I couldn't resist.  All I did last night was cut out the main parts and sand them down.  Now I have to decide how to make it into a D-IIa  ???

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_1967_zps75da8381.jpg)

More soon...Dan
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: Des on August 27, 2014, 08:16:38 AM
Great to see another vac kit being built here, I have never built a vac kit so I will be taking notes throughout this build and the one Terri is doing as well, I'm looking forward to this Dan.

Des.
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: coyotemagic on August 27, 2014, 08:47:07 AM
This'll be fun to watch, Dan!  I love vacs and I love the Phonix scouts.  A marriage made in heaven.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: Alexis on August 27, 2014, 09:47:02 AM
This is going to be a real joy !



Terri
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on August 27, 2014, 02:25:47 PM
Hello Fellow and Fellowette WWI-ophiles...

I got all the pieces cut out and sanded down and even started with the interior assembly a bit.  The kit seat looks nice with just a bit of clean up.

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_1989_zpsed147852.jpg)

Looking good so far.  I'll work more on the interior and then I'll put a thin plastic layer on the bottom of each wing to add a bit of structure and to have a good base for drilling strut holes.  This should go together pretty quickly!

Cheers,

Dan
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: Alexis on August 27, 2014, 09:59:51 PM
I have a feeling this is going to be a quick build for you , are you going to add a bit of detail in the pit ? The kit parts for the pit do look pretty good , better then other vac kit's .



Terri
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: Des on August 27, 2014, 10:07:50 PM
You are motoring along at a fair pace Dan, the cleaned parts look really good.

Des.
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on August 28, 2014, 02:37:51 AM
I have a feeling this is going to be a quick build for you , are you going to add a bit of detail in the pit ? The kit parts for the pit do look pretty good , better then other vac kit's .



Terri

Hi Terri...yes I want to add some detail on the sides, a stick, rudder pedals etc.  I also think there should be some wood member frames in the sides too.  I have to start getting some info since I have no cockpit pics of this machine.  The kit parts are not bad at all.  With additions, they will make a good start.  We'll see what I come up with.

Thanks for your comments, Des.  I have a model show I want to go to in mid-late September so that's my goal!

Cheers,

Dan
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on August 31, 2014, 08:47:00 AM
Hello Everyone...

It's raining here in Tacoma/Federal Way Washington...perfect modeling weather so I'm not complaining.  I did a simple interior with a new stick, rudder pedals, belts, throttle and some wood framing.  Basically made up but I bet it's pretty close.  There isn't a lot of room in there, so I think it looks fine.  It was then a quick matter of closing the fuselage, adding the bottom wing (that helps strengthen things) and then I also added the tails. 

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_2064_zps3fa3ef2d.jpg)

Going along quite well, now.  Tonight I'll work on an engine, skin the lower wings and add holes for rigging and struts.  Cruising now!!!  ;D ;D

Thanks for looking,

Dan
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: Des on August 31, 2014, 08:57:18 AM
My word, this is moving along at a rapid rate, and looking really good in the process, well done so far Dan.

Des.
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: IanB on August 31, 2014, 10:24:59 AM
Wow, that's coming along very quickly! Nice work too!
 What are you planning for the colour scheme?

Ian
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on August 31, 2014, 11:54:40 AM
Wow, that's coming along very quickly! Nice work too!
 What are you planning for the colour scheme?

Ian

Hi Ian...

Not sure yet.  I've decided to leave it as a D-III meaning it could be a very late war machine that didn't see combat with a light overall color and a spinach-like camo or just do the overall light grey with Austrian markings that was really from about 1919 and on.    We'll see!

Thanks for looking,
Dan
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: Alexis on August 31, 2014, 12:42:48 PM
Looks like your going to have this one finished in no time Dan ! Great work so far  :)




Terri
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on August 31, 2014, 03:01:23 PM
Thanks, everyone.  This one is a favorite plane so the motivation is there.  Plus...we have a long weekend holiday in the States!  ;)

I got a bit more done by skinning the undersurface of the wings.  This makes them stronger and I'll have a better base to add holes for struts and rigging.

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_2067_zps15386732.jpg)

You can see the ailerons are cut out and I'm ready for strut locations.  Tomorrow I hope to finish that and get an engine up front.  We'll see how far things go... :)

Thanks for looking,

Dan
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: RAGIII on September 01, 2014, 01:13:52 AM
Wow, I haven't looked in for a little while and you have made HUGE progress! Very fast, and beautiful work! Looks great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: Alexis on September 01, 2014, 11:59:12 PM
Go Dan Go !




Terri
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on September 02, 2014, 03:34:55 PM
Just a bit more... ;D

I scrounged up the top of an engine and used some twist tie wire to add radiator tubing, heat-pulled q-tip handles for tiny hollow tubes to become the exhaust and gun openings and made a handy jig from a 3-view (Harleyford) for wing alignment.  I also needed to move the exhaust manifold to the right side as per some pictures I've seen.  Next will be some real painting...

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_2092_zps3d665cd8.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_2093_zpsbf914d7f.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_2091_zps9e344e2a.jpg)

Thanks for looking...Dan
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: Alexis on September 02, 2014, 09:55:47 PM
Nice job on the engine Dan , like your parts made from Q-tips !



Terri
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: uncletony on September 02, 2014, 10:28:01 PM
Nice jig too :)
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 02, 2014, 11:50:32 PM
What a great idea for a jig. You fellows here are so inventive. Once again, I'd have never thought about making something like this in a million years.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: coyotemagic on September 02, 2014, 11:56:45 PM
Wow!  You're really moving along on this one, Dan, and doing a brilliant job of it.  Looking forward to seeing paint on her.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on September 03, 2014, 01:19:30 AM
Thanks, Everybody... :)

I am kind of stuck for colors...I don't really want to make it simply overall grey.  I'm leaning toward light tan with green spinach splotches or light grey and dark grey splotches...I'm still looking!

The tiny holes you get at the end of the Q-tips make it worth while.  They are tiny, tiny tubes no matter how much you stretch them.  However, the plastic is different than our sprues and stretching is hard to do.  It's like the plastic does not stretch evenly and it's very brittle...cools off fast too.  But, after 2,000 tries, you do get "the one" you want!  ;)

I've used that Harleyford publication book of 3-views for making free flight  and RC model planes for years.  Assuming they are accurate, it's a great resource!  Makes aligning parts pretty easy.  I used it first on a Revell D-VII with stretched sprue cabanes...that plethora of spider legs scared me.  No problem with the cardboard jig  ;)

More soon...Dan
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: Des on September 03, 2014, 08:53:13 AM
Great work on the engine Dan and the wing jig is an excellent idea.

Des.
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on September 05, 2014, 02:44:49 PM
A bit more...almost done!  8) 8)

I got some paint on it, did some weathering, decaled with the help of Future, rigged with elastic and here she sits. 

Little details are left including the radiator, fuselage numbers, control wires, horns and touch up here and there.  Plus the prop and wheels!  Almost forgot. 

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_2107_zpsc4889325.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_2106_zpsc25f9ee8.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_2109_zps55b13e86.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_2105_zps37c067de.jpg)

She should be done soon!  Thanks for looking...Dan
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: PrzemoL on September 05, 2014, 09:30:12 PM
Lovely work on this model, Dan. Very fine paint and shading.
But could you bring some details on the colour scheme? I do not remember this pattern.
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: Alexis on September 05, 2014, 09:31:06 PM
Interesting scheme Dan , I like it ! 





Terri

Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 05, 2014, 10:07:02 PM
Yes indeed, I like that subdued scheme myself.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: RAGIII on September 05, 2014, 10:23:53 PM
Beautiful construction, rigging, and painting!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on September 06, 2014, 02:07:05 AM
Lovely work on this model, Dan. Very fine paint and shading.
But could you bring some details on the colour scheme? I do not remember this pattern.

Thanks, everyone...

Prezemol:  This scheme is based on (the shape of the demarcations anyway) a photo of D-IIIs on the assembly line at the end of the war.  From what I could gather, they were either light tan (linen?) with either grey or green or brown camo over top.  I know the late D-IIIs were overall grey so I just thought it likely they were all grey with some other camo color for war time.  I just liked the way the two grey colors looked so I went with those.  I also saw at least one painted profile where the author noted that his two-tone brown should have been two-tone greys. 

So this is my best guess and what I think looked aesthetically pleasing.  I doubt it's historically accurate and it's not a model of a specific aircraft or group... :(

I hope this helps... :)

Dan
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: lcarroll on September 06, 2014, 03:15:59 AM
Dan,
    I missed this Thread earlier for some reason, just looked at it now and Wow, what a neat Build! Like many I've never built a Vac Kit, this is quite interesting and inspiring. Your version of a Jig is very impressive; I am a great fan of Jigs for construction and never would have thought of this approach.
Thanks for sharing your techniques and compliments on a very nice model.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on September 06, 2014, 06:16:17 AM
Thanks, Lance...that means a lot coming from someone like you. 

Much appreciated.

Dive in!  Build a vac  ;D

Dan
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on September 08, 2014, 02:41:51 PM
ALL DONE!!!  :D :D

Only trouble is that the digital camera and my wife's nice macro lens leave nothing to the imagination!  Who on earth worked on that radiator?  Not Teutonic workmanship is all I can say... ;)  I'm glad it's done and it looks great on the shelf.  Can't even tell it's a vac.

Thanks for looking (finished area) and all the encouragement.

Dan
Title: Re: Joystick Phonix!
Post by: PrzemoL on September 08, 2014, 05:59:27 PM
Lovely work on this model, Dan. Very fine paint and shading.
But could you bring some details on the colour scheme? I do not remember this pattern.

Thanks, everyone...

Prezemol:  This scheme is based on (the shape of the demarcations anyway) a photo of D-IIIs on the assembly line at the end of the war.  From what I could gather, they were either light tan (linen?) with either grey or green or brown camo over top.  I know the late D-IIIs were overall grey so I just thought it likely they were all grey with some other camo color for war time.  I just liked the way the two grey colors looked so I went with those.  I also saw at least one painted profile where the author noted that his two-tone brown should have been two-tone greys. 

So this is my best guess and what I think looked aesthetically pleasing.  I doubt it's historically accurate and it's not a model of a specific aircraft or group... :(

I hope this helps... :)

Dan

Thanks Dan. Historical or not, your choice seems to be well founded. Once again, congratulations!