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Title: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on May 28, 2014, 11:09:52 AM
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/revdr1011_zps3605ca52.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/revdr1011_zps3605ca52.jpg.html)

I am going to do a little Step by step of my "Favorite" method of replicating the Streaked finish on Fokker built Aircraft. The first pictures will show the basic materials I use. In this case Oils in Cadmium Yellow, Ivory Black, a red to bring the color just slightly into the Olive brown range, a variety of brushes from pointed to fan, and an appropriate acrylic base paint, in this case Polyscale CDL. I also use Testors Airbrush thinner as my thinning agent as it is Hotter than Terps and speeds up the drying time. (It will take me a while to complete the entire post) so please be patient.
RAGIII

Here are the oils and thinner I use.

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakedcamo006_zpsf0e3344d.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakedcamo006_zpsf0e3344d.jpg.html)

A variety of brushes: These are inexpensive brushes purchased at a very large retailer for a very low cost!

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakedcamo001_zps36a84f70.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakedcamo001_zps36a84f70.jpg.html)

The subject model is the Revelle 1/72nd Fokker Dr1. The following pictures show the aircraft after basic construction than after the Acrylic CDL base is applied:

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Fokker%20Streaking/Fokkerstreakingtutorial010_zpscd97c270.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Fokker%20Streaking/Fokkerstreakingtutorial010_zpscd97c270.jpg.html)

I use the acrylic base because the oils and thinner will not affect the underlying coat when applied... More in the next post:

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakedcamo025_zps816f3745.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakedcamo025_zps816f3745.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on May 28, 2014, 11:29:54 AM
Now all is ready to apply streaks: The basic technique involves Mixing black and yellow oils to create an Olive Green. depending on your feelings about the color of these streaks add a little red( very little) to adjust to your liking. The more red the more BROWN!

I use a 50/50 mix of the black and yellow, and just a drop of red. Here is what it looks like after mixing:



(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakingprocess002_zpse1f54488.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakingprocess002_zpse1f54488.jpg.html)

I begin by applying the oils to the areas that will end up as the darkest streaks. I use a 1/4 or 1/8 flat brush depending on scale:

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakingprocess014_zps8c3a061f.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakingprocess014_zps8c3a061f.jpg.html)

Next I wet the flat brush and begin pulling it through the pigment in the direction I want the streaks to go. I move from leading to trailing edge and left to right. This spreads out the paint leaving various light and dark areas.


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakingprocess016_zpsf41369c5.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakingprocess016_zpsf41369c5.jpg.html)

The next steps are using a wider flat brush and removing pigment where you want the lighter cdl showing through, and inevitably adding a little pigment where you remove too much. The oils are forgiving and can be totally removed( At least a couple of times) without damaging your acrylic base. Work WET but not dripping wet  ::)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakingprocess013_zps4d78f9a5.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakingprocess013_zps4d78f9a5.jpg.html)

I then use a wide flat brush to smooth things out. Look at the pictures of your subject to get ideas on where you want the light and dark!


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Fokker%20Streaking/revdr1_94_zpsd192db69.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Fokker%20Streaking/revdr1_94_zpsd192db69.jpg.html)

Next a fan brush to begin to smooth things even more.

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Fokker%20Streaking/revdr1_96_zps411477e5.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Fokker%20Streaking/revdr1_96_zps411477e5.jpg.html)


Last is a big very soft brush as the final smoothing agent. The technique is the same for the fuselage and tail surfaces just pull the oils down vertically on the fuselage sides.


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Fokker%20Streaking/revdr1_97_zps97986428.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Fokker%20Streaking/revdr1_97_zps97986428.jpg.html)












Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on May 28, 2014, 11:49:02 AM
The method takes much longer to explain than it does to do. Each wing surface took about 5 to 10 minutes, NOT INCLUDING THE 3 days drying time after  8) Again the oils are very forgiving and give you a lot of time to tweak the streaks to match your subject. I will close my portion with a few more generic pictures.

RAGIII



(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakingprocess2006_zpsf860bd4e.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakingprocess2006_zpsf860bd4e.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakingprocess024_zpsf01c4aa4.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerstreakingprocess024_zpsf01c4aa4.jpg.html)



(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerdr1revelle001_crop_zps3c46a2b3.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Fokker%20Streaking/fokkerdr1revelle001_crop_zps3c46a2b3.jpg.html)

I hope this helps and of course I would love to see others post their techniques  on this thread: Ed are you out there  ;D

RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on May 28, 2014, 12:01:25 PM
Great post Rick! Thanks for sharing that...
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: Ernie on May 28, 2014, 12:07:40 PM
Thank you for the information Rick.  Really helpful stuff, my friend.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: jknaus on May 28, 2014, 12:24:11 PM
Great tutorial. Kind of want to try my hand at the streaking. This gives me an idea how to start.
Thanks
James
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: Mark on May 28, 2014, 12:55:25 PM
Thanks for posting this! I haven't had the opportunity to try this color scheme yet, but now I know I won't back away from it  :)

Again, thanks!

Mark G.
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: coyotemagic on May 28, 2014, 02:03:34 PM
I've always admired your streaking technique, amigo.  Thanks for this thread.  I'm currently using water based oils for their fast drying time, but I must admit that I like the idea of using Testors thinner with oils.  I'll have to give it a try.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on May 28, 2014, 05:23:02 PM
Thank you for the tutorial Rick :)  Your streaking looks very effective.  This is the same method I mostly use for woodgraining (with less variation in density of course) so would be happy to give your streaking method a go.

Using oils, are the finished surfaces OK for decals or do you give them a shot of klear or other varnish first?  I guess a coating protects the finished surfaces too?
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on May 28, 2014, 09:35:09 PM
Thank you for the tutorial Rick :)  Your streaking looks very effective.  This is the same method I mostly use for woodgraining (with less variation in density of course) so would be happy to give your streaking method a go.

Using oils, are the finished surfaces OK for decals or do you give them a shot of klear or other varnish first?  I guess a coating protects the finished surfaces too?

Thanks Guys I hope Modelers continue to find this info useful. As I stated I would also like to see other Methods described here!

Ian, in answer to your question, YES an Acrylic clear gloss is applied as soon as possible after the Oils dry. This not only preps for decals but keeps the oils from wearing away through handling!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on May 28, 2014, 11:46:21 PM
A small addition here. I was also able to use XTRA color enamel Gloss German WW1 green using the same basic technique on my build of the Encore Dr1 in 1/32nd. The difference was that I used thinned paint on the lighter areas applied a little more directly then went over with another coat with paint a little less thin. I was still able to remove unwanted paint with a wide flat brush. The working time isn't as forgiving as the oils though. Sorry no in progress tutorial photos but they would be similar to what I posted before. I think it is the GLOSS finish that allows the technique to work as the paint doesn't dry as quickly as flat finishes.
RAGIII

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/dr1_40.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/dr1_40.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: GrahamB on May 29, 2014, 10:39:23 AM
Nice work.

A Dr.1 is on the stocks at the moment so this will be my big challenge.

Cheers,

GrahamB
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on May 30, 2014, 07:54:45 AM
Nice work.

A Dr.1 is on the stocks at the moment so this will be my big challenge.

Cheers,

GrahamB

Thanks Graham. I am sure you will have no trouble meeting the painting challenge. Hopefully others will eventually contribute their methods in tutorial form to give us all other options !
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: lone modeller on May 31, 2014, 03:53:09 AM
Just seen this Rick. You have removed the mystery of how to get the streaky effect at last….. and in God's Own Scale too!!!! This is a MOST useful post - very many thanks for explaining it so clearly and with such good pictures too. I had never considered using oil paints and the variety of artists brushes before - I always feel that the finishes on my models leave something to be desired but as I am not a very good artist I have not been very sure what to do to improve them. In one tutorial you have given me lots of good ideas. Once again very many thanks.
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on May 31, 2014, 11:21:19 AM
Just seen this Rick. You have removed the mystery of how to get the streaky effect at last….. and in God's Own Scale too!!!! This is a MOST useful post - very many thanks for explaining it so clearly and with such good pictures too. I had never considered using oil paints and the variety of artists brushes before - I always feel that the finishes on my models leave something to be desired but as I am not a very good artist I have not been very sure what to do to improve them. In one tutorial you have given me lots of good ideas. Once again very many thanks.

LM,
Thanks for your feedback. I posted this just for the reasons you state. Streaking isn't all that hard, just takes practice. Along that line before you attack your Fokker, practice on some appropriately prepared sheet styrene or an old kit from the junk pile!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: Berman on May 31, 2014, 01:11:50 PM
Rick,
       Which form of cadmium yellow do you use?  Light, medium, or deep?
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on May 31, 2014, 07:38:13 PM
Rick,
       Which form of cadmium yellow do you use?  Light, medium, or deep?

Thanks for asking as I had forgotten to mention that I use DEEP!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on June 08, 2014, 01:47:15 PM
I thought of a couple of other things worth mentioning. Because the oils are a "TAD" messy, I wait until all of the uppers are dry and clear coated, then mask off the turn around on the fuselage and paint the blue unders! This makes for a crisp separation on the leading edges of the wings. I then paint the cross back grounds and add any squadron /personal markings.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: nmroberto on July 21, 2014, 03:51:41 AM
Hey Rick, this is going to be very helpful on my next build. 

Have you ever tried adding driers, like jap drier,  to the oil paints?  It does make oil paint dry somewhat faster, I've used it on paintings but wondered if it would work with your technique.
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on July 21, 2014, 06:18:57 AM
Never tried driers per say. As I said I use Testors Airbrush thinner which is fairly hot and speeds up drying time a little. As the process itself is fairly quick I see no reason that driers should prove to be a problem.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: Chris Johnson on July 21, 2014, 11:06:35 PM
I just stumbled on this thread now Rick and I'm sure glad that I did. Excellent information here.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: eindecker on July 22, 2014, 02:01:35 AM
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m122/eindecker/SteinhauserDr1.jpg)
Ltn Steinhauser

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m122/eindecker/IMG_0017.jpg)
Ltn Weiss

Eduard 1:48. Oils over Tamiya acrylic light blue, mixed in batches and applied sequentially light to dark, blending the shades with a rather stiff brush. My reading is that the colors were more in the green and blue spectrum than olive and brown.

The personal markings, yellow and red, were masked and painted with Tamiya acrylics. I used a satin flat coat, but don't remember which brand.
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: radio on July 22, 2014, 04:37:44 AM
You can see my Voss F1 aircraft.
First priming, then painting with Torquise at last with dry brush Olive colour.
Martin

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p411/radio167/Great%20War/Fokker%20Dr%20I/15_zpsaf1bd896.jpg) (http://s346.photobucket.com/user/radio167/media/Great%20War/Fokker%20Dr%20I/15_zpsaf1bd896.jpg.html)

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p411/radio167/Great%20War/Fokker%20Dr%20I/17_zps1d09722e.jpg) (http://s346.photobucket.com/user/radio167/media/Great%20War/Fokker%20Dr%20I/17_zps1d09722e.jpg.html)

(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p411/radio167/Great%20War/Fokker%20Dr%20I/27_zps9421abf6.jpg) (http://s346.photobucket.com/user/radio167/media/Great%20War/Fokker%20Dr%20I/27_zps9421abf6.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: coyotemagic on July 22, 2014, 06:58:47 AM
Beautifully done, Martin.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: radio on July 22, 2014, 07:30:52 AM
Thank you Bud. 8)
Martin
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on July 22, 2014, 08:32:04 AM
Eduard 1:48. Oils over Tamiya acrylic light blue, mixed in batches and applied sequentially light to dark, blending the shades with a rather stiff brush. My reading is that the colors were more in the green and blue spectrum than olive and brown.

The personal markings, yellow and red, were masked and painted with Tamiya acrylics. I used a satin flat coat, but don't remember which brand.

Thanks for posting! I am not in this to debate colors, but your streaking is beautiful so now a few questions,
1. You said Sequentially lighter to darker. Do you wait for the previous coat to dry?
2.What consistency of paint are you using/ wet or dry?
3.Any in progress shots possible? My intention with this thread is to show ANY METHOD and Provide the Necessary info to use the process. Thanks again for posting your METHOD!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: eindecker on July 22, 2014, 10:09:27 AM
Thank you. I did these models about six years ago. I may have a few progress shots, but I will need to dig around in the photo archives to see. As well as I can remember, I painted the entire aircraft (except for the struts, etc.) a light blue. Figuring the Fokker painters layered their streaky colors over this, I mixed oils straight from the tubes to get a greenish olive color and brushed it on directly with a chisel brush, about a quarter of an inch wide. I angled the strokes on the wings, striving for deeper and lighter color densities focused in areas, or "patches" as I went. I got some of this variation by cleaning the brush and stroking in the same direction, removing areas of the paint.

I then mixed in a little umber, to get a darker olive shade and applied this in "patches" as well. I removed excess paint using the clean brush method until it looked right. I think I made one more sparing pass with a darker shade than the second. Not very much of this though. Where the contrasting edges were too sharp, I used a small, round brush to blend the colors, but not enough to blend out the streaks. When it looked "right" to me, I stopped and let it dry for a week before gloss coating the decal areas — mainly the insignia areas — applied those and hit it with a satin flat.

I used pastels to highlight the rib tapes on Weiss' aircraft.

If I can find in-progress images, I will post them in a follow up.
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on July 22, 2014, 10:45:35 AM
Thank You for the Further info on your Method! similar to mine but perhaps a little more refined/controlled. I like the results! As I said about colors, depending on what "School" you are in, the Green can be more Olive brown by adding just a touch of red to the mix. I have also recently experimented with a pre mixed Olive green and someday will show the results on this thread.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on July 22, 2014, 10:46:56 AM
I just stumbled on this thread now Rick and I'm sure glad that I did. Excellent information here.

Cheers,

Chris

Thanks Chris, I hope my method and others posted to this thread will continue to help modelers master Fokker Streaking.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: eindecker on July 22, 2014, 11:06:16 AM
One observation. Looking at period photos of streaking, especially those taken in the Fokker shop, and of F.103/17, I think many models have their brush strokes, or lines, too large. I like a fine bristled brush and work to
make the bristle marks as fine as I can. More to scale I think. This is where oils come into their own. Extensive working time. You pay for that with long curing time, but I think it is worth it.
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: kornbeef on July 23, 2014, 04:18:10 PM
Slaps the post for fellow streakers.

Keith
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on July 23, 2014, 08:47:14 PM
Martin,
Thank you for your contribution to the thread. The drybrushing technique can certainly be effective as on your Dr1. do you thin the paint before drybrushing or is it straight from the bottle?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: radio on July 23, 2014, 11:48:14 PM
Hi Rick
it comes direct from the Misterkit bottles. ::)
This System had I read some years ago. 8)
Martin
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: Adam on August 04, 2014, 06:45:09 PM
To paint streaks I used the same method as the real aircraft were painted. The whole model was painted with a base color. Then with a wide brush about 15 mm a wide I with diluted paint Livecolor I painted streaks.
Test painting I did on the wing of another model.
 
(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv186/AlbatrosDIII/FokkerDr-1/mDSC01356_zps8f6636f6.jpg)

(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv186/AlbatrosDIII/FokkerDr-1/mDSC01357_zps8dccc36b.jpg)

I decided that this method is good and then I painted my Fokker.

(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv186/AlbatrosDIII/FokkerDr-1/mDSC01362_zps677f38fe.jpg)

(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv186/AlbatrosDIII/FokkerDr-1/mDSC01378.jpg)

(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv186/AlbatrosDIII/FokkerDr-1/mDSC03346_zps817552b4.jpg)

(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv186/AlbatrosDIII/FokkerDr-1/mDSC01664_zpse17b9be3.jpg)

(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv186/AlbatrosDIII/FokkerDr-1/mDSC01662_zps875d018d.jpg)

This is the large model 1:32 scale.
On the model in 1:72 scale, this method rather failed.  :(

(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv186/AlbatrosDIII/FokkerDr-1/mDSC03364_zps38a736a0.jpg)

(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv186/AlbatrosDIII/FokkerDr-1/mDSC03363_zpse7673f44.jpg)

Adam.
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on August 08, 2014, 09:46:23 AM
Adam,
sorry for the late reply! Thank You for sharing your Method. That is what this thread is about!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: WarrenD on December 07, 2014, 05:27:02 AM
Well, heck, as long as we're at it, here is my first attempt at streaking. This is my first kit on coming back to the hobby*, and I got very frustrated at trying to make enamel or acrylic paint do what I wanted. (Next time I'm going to use RAG's method.) In any event, I decided to use watercolor pencils. I sprayed the kit with Testors Dullcote, and then started drawing the streaks. I then went over the kit with a small damp brush. In the end I think the results are mixed, but it was kind of fun to try to reproduce the finish in a rather unconventional way.

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff12/dixieflyer500/fokkerfIside-view_zps61058452.jpg) (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/dixieflyer500/media/fokkerfIside-view_zps61058452.jpg.html)

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff12/dixieflyer500/fokkerfIquarter-view_zps5666134d.jpg) (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/dixieflyer500/media/fokkerfIquarter-view_zps5666134d.jpg.html)

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff12/dixieflyer500/fokkerfIrear-view_zpse2c25ffe.jpg) (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/dixieflyer500/media/fokkerfIrear-view_zpse2c25ffe.jpg.html)

FWIW,

Warren

*My other builds (SPAD VII C.1, Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter, and a couple of Nieuports) are in various stages of destruction, rather than construction, due to my own ham-fistedness. I hope to return to them soon.

Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on December 08, 2014, 01:08:07 AM
Warren,
Thanks for sharing your Pencil Method! I still think your results were/are excellent. Another Method worth trying out in the future'
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: mike in calif on December 31, 2014, 09:59:26 AM
An older 1/28 model of Lothar v. R.s DVII. Enamels with a RLM 70-ish green dry brushed over the basecoat.
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg270/mikeincalif/Fokker%20DVII/DVII-5.jpg) (http://s250.photobucket.com/user/mikeincalif/media/Fokker%20DVII/DVII-5.jpg.html)
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg270/mikeincalif/Fokker%20DVII/0f6db16b-9d61-4f49-9f5c-285dd9015e18.jpg) (http://s250.photobucket.com/user/mikeincalif/media/Fokker%20DVII/0f6db16b-9d61-4f49-9f5c-285dd9015e18.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: sobrien on January 01, 2015, 02:46:24 AM
Here's my Roden 1/32. I streaked it with thinned Model Master paint. It turned out alright.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/sobrien_album/DSCN0766_zpse858a576.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/sobrien_album/media/DSCN0766_zpse858a576.jpg.html)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/sobrien_album/DSCN0775_zps23227ac6.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/sobrien_album/media/DSCN0775_zps23227ac6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: davecww1 on February 15, 2015, 04:11:10 AM
Figure I would add to the thread, here is my Werner Voss F.1 under construction.  It is the DML Dragon kit with the Rosemont conversion for the tailplane.  After much debate with Taz and Dan San Abbott on the Aerodrome forum, I figured out the F1 was not painted entirely turquoise then streaked, but was bleached linen, which would give it the "silvery-gray" color as described by McCudden.  So I mixed up a base color of sand and white to give the bleached linen color and painted the entire airframe this color.  I used Model Master and Agama  enamels for the colors.  After the base color dried I coated it with Future acrylic floor finish, this ensures that the streaks will not dissolve the base linen color. I did much like the actual aircraft, and took a thin brush with thinned down Agama Fokker Olive which was used to streak as seen below.  I went back with thinner to lighten some areas and think it came out well as compared to photos of F.1 103/17.

(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k489/davecww1/f008_1.jpg)
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k489/davecww1/006greyscale_1.jpg)
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k489/davecww1/f15_1.jpg)
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k489/davecww1/003_1.jpg)
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k489/davecww1/f007_1.jpg)
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k489/davecww1/014_1.jpg)

For a little practice I decided to do the Revell Fokker Funfendecker in the same scheme! 
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k489/davecww1/funfendecker_1.jpg)
Dave C
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on February 19, 2015, 07:20:21 PM
Thanks for all of the recent posts on different streaking methods! All look great and have merit to modelers looking to streak their Fokkers! Dave, you certainly have reminded me of one of my FAVORITE non provable Aerodrome discussions! No not the Yellow cowl but the base color of 102 qnd 103/17. I appreciate DSA and Tazs' work but agree with Greg van Wyngarden on this one and think the base was blue  ;D Who really knows? Excellent results by the way!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: MikkoHeikkinen on July 30, 2016, 12:21:55 AM
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/MikkoHeikkinen/P4100817.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/MikkoHeikkinen/media/P4100817.jpg.html)

Looks like I had in my photobucket this pic for some reason. :D Well I share it here.
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on July 30, 2016, 12:32:48 AM
Thanks for sharing the photo! I like number 1 and 3 a lot! Both look very effective. The acrylics thinned with Johnson clear sounds like an interesting method to try!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: MikkoHeikkinen on July 30, 2016, 08:35:43 PM
Thanks Rag! Imho nr.1 is too slanting to right. But it's my first streaking. :D Pics don't give credit to 2 and 4, they aren't se green than shown in pic. But here is my latest streaking effort, eduard 1/48 E.V wing.

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/MikkoHeikkinen/13782212_1241657962532024_801252614339290653_n.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/MikkoHeikkinen/media/13782212_1241657962532024_801252614339290653_n.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on July 30, 2016, 09:08:38 PM
Lovely work. A couple of questions on the acrylic and future/Johnsons.
1. Do you use one color thinned to different consistencies? OR
2. Do you use multiple coats of the same mix?

By the way I did make a small error in my original comment. I like all of the tripes but it was #2 and #3 that really got my attention. Here is a shot of my EV in 1/48th by Eduard. I used cheap Delta Ceramicoat acrylics for this one.

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/ev005_crop_zpsdc3e01b5.jpg)

RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: lcarroll on July 30, 2016, 11:02:45 PM
   My only attempt at a "streaked" finish. Roden's 1:32 DR.1 with a "semi dry brush" technique of a Khaki Drab type green mix over CDL, all Model Master enamels.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/IMG_1038.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/IMG_1038.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/IMG_1043.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/IMG_1043.jpg.html)

Cheers,
Lance

Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on July 31, 2016, 12:27:07 AM
Nicely done Lance. The dry brushing technique is very effective.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: ModelingBob on July 31, 2016, 12:39:22 AM
My streaking technique done in the same manner as Lance's. I guess great minds think alike! I'll be posting a lot more pics of this one in "Completed Models" soon.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/laskodi/DSCN6618a_zpsquhgd1fh.jpg)
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: MikkoHeikkinen on August 02, 2016, 08:48:33 PM
Hi Rag. Sorry for late response. Actually both.  First multiple coats of same mix. Let it be sometime first and then start doing streaking with brush. Second and third coat if it needs thät. Final less tinned mixture to darker areas. Hope answered to your question
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on August 03, 2016, 11:34:15 PM
Mikko,
Yes your answer is exactly what we needed to know! Thanks,
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on August 03, 2016, 11:35:29 PM
Bob,
Thanks for sharing your triplane. Very nicely done.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: Daryl_Huhtala on March 23, 2017, 02:18:38 AM
Lots of good info here. Thank you all! I'm about to start streaking my DVII build so I'm glad I found this.
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: dr 1 ace on March 24, 2017, 01:57:05 AM
Lance and Bob, well done !

Ed
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on July 28, 2017, 04:35:16 AM
The Latest off of my bench: Encore 1/32nd Fokker F1 103/17. I used a slightly different method to apply the streaks on this one. Using oils over a blue acrylic base. I started with an Olive green oil, applied it in dabs then blended in dots of burnt umber. As in my other method I did the blending in the direction of the streaks. I then went back and used a moistened flat brush to thin out certain areas and remove unwanted pigment. I added and subtracted using this method until I had the streaks as close to the photos as I could get them.
RAGIII


(https://s20.postimg.cc/hb0upw7i5/DSCF6406.jpg)


(https://s20.postimg.cc/41w4h9xj1/DSCF6413.jpg)


(https://s20.postimg.cc/msby9xukd/DSCF6366.jpg)



Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: eclarson on July 28, 2017, 01:23:00 PM
My first WWI build - Dragon 1/48 Fokker Dr.1.  Streaking was done with Olive Green artist oil over Mister Kit CDL.   Several attempts were needed before I got acceptable results but the experience taught me a lot about working with oils which paid off handsomely doing the wood grain on my next build - the WNW LVG.  :)

(http://i.imgur.com/YsJnPxL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/zXFmaX3.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/0fe4EHR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/pofhadl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/JHhpxFI.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/wiwaB5d.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/A2ihWHW.jpg)


Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on July 29, 2017, 10:55:52 PM
Thanks for sharing ! Your oils work looks similar to my original method. Did you use a damp brush to move the oils around or just the straight dry brush method?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: IanB on July 29, 2017, 11:17:59 PM
That looks very nice Eric!
I just ordered a sheet of Aviattic's new streaked decals in 1:72. I'll post my Dr1 build when I get to it so we can see how they look.

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: eclarson on July 30, 2017, 12:15:13 AM
Thanks for sharing ! Your oils work looks similar to my original method. Did you use a damp brush to move the oils around or just the straight dry brush method?
RAGIII

You're welcome!  Just a dry brush.

Eric
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on December 17, 2017, 07:17:12 AM
A few additions here for doing the Fokker EV/DVIII streaked/stained wing finish.
RAIII

This one was done using Oils in a method similar to my regular Fokker Streaking Method.


(https://s20.postimg.cc/r94i0pyt9/DSCF6235.jpg)



(https://s20.postimg.cc/5s2w48399/DSCF6227.jpg)


This one is done using Water Color Pencils. A method that I still think has promise for the "Stained" Streaking Look.
I used the pencils with a whetted tip, then drew the pencil in the direction of the streaks.


(https://s20.postimg.cc/e3ozum4xp/DSCF6239.jpg)


This was the one I used on my Avis Kit. Polyscale Acrylics thinned and Painted on in a multi layer streaked Method.


(https://s20.postimg.cc/z0950xt31/DSCF6709.jpg)


Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on December 21, 2017, 02:28:08 AM
What the wing looks like in place:


(https://s20.postimg.cc/54f4taghp/DSCF6730.jpg)

RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: dr 1 ace on December 22, 2017, 11:14:21 AM
Well Done !  my Amigo !!

Ed
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: coyotemagic on December 22, 2017, 11:34:11 AM
Well Done !  my Amigo !!

Ed
And so says the third Amigo!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: RAGIII on November 17, 2018, 03:04:21 PM
My latest streaking project. WNW Fokker DVII. I used a different Mixture of Oils this time. Prussian blue and burnt umber. Some was applied pre mixed and some in the form of dots blended together. All applied over an acrylic beige base. I used my usual damp flat brushes to remove unwanted pigment.

RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/kXWdrb9z/DSCF8269.jpg)


(https://i.postimg.cc/65pCgdd5/DSCF8281.jpg)


(https://i.postimg.cc/YqDQHh3N/DSCF8276.jpg)


(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZC0YwsF/DSCF8280.jpg)

Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: coyotemagic on November 17, 2018, 03:40:47 PM
Spectacular results, as always, Amigo!  I know I must sound like a broken record, but I think this is my favorite.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: gbrivio on November 17, 2018, 09:08:23 PM
Graet streaking, and great Fokker.
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: lcarroll on November 17, 2018, 11:50:34 PM
Spectacular results, as always, Amigo!  I know I must sound like a broken record, but I think this is my favorite.
Cheers,
Bud

    Absolutely stunning work Rick, this finish is just plain spectacular. I scrolled way back to the beginning when you started this thread and the improvement in the effect is remarkable, nice work!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Fokker Streaking. Show your Method
Post by: Juan on November 18, 2018, 01:24:43 AM
Simply outstanding Rick, your streaked Fokkers are world class.